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Bye Bye Birdy

If you are like me and don't like threads saying bye to the sub-forum because the user is changing devices feel free to skip the whole rest of this. I usually don't like those threads either.
However, with tongue firmly planted in cheek:
I'm ditching this Droid Charge because:
It didn't wash the windows
It didn't bring about world peace (yes that comes after washing the windows. I likes some clean windows, I do.)
It didn't feed the hungry or clothe the nekked...and man some of those ugly people need some clothes! Why won't this phone stop the insanity?
It didn't provide notifications while the sender was typing the message or before. Really, I would have rather had the notification before the sender woke up that day.
The voices in the phone kept talking to me and I didn't like what they had to say. "If you would like to make a call..."
I couldn't find the Any Key. Hell, I couldn't find any keys period. There were a couple of buttons, but no keys. How the hell am I supposed to open locks without any key?
The battery wouldn't charge itself. I mean, come one. Why is this too much to ask? I just want a phone that absorbs energy from the room...preferably from iPhones. I'd love it if my friend's iPhones batteries would die even faster when my phone was in the room. The OEM developers really dropped the ball on this one.
All kidding aside: This Droid Charge hasn't been stable since I got it. It was 10x better than the Fascinate garbage I came from. I've loaded ROM after ROM and some work better than others. All of them are better than the stock experience and the XDA / RootzWiki developers have my thanks for their help and time. I've had stability problems from day one and even once I'd get them ironed out stability problems would come back regardless of kernel. I've reloaded the PIT and stock ROMS plenty of times. I haven't overclocked or undervolted and this thing acts like I'm running an aggressive scheme.
So, I'm jumping ship to the Droid Razr Maxx. It will be here on Tuesday. Maybe I can sell this thing on eBay for a few bucks with the docks and extra batteries. I didn't want a Motorola phone, but I haven't been impressed with the chances I've given Samsung, so time to try something new. I'm glad that the Droid Razr Maxx has the Super AMOLED screen.
So long and thanks for all the fish.

I envy you....i will wait one year with the phone before i start harrassing vzw for an early upgrade.
Droid Charge 4G LTE

I've been looking myself as well for an upgrade too but my official upgrade doesn't come for another year. My line isn't the "master line" in the family plan that my line is part of. Also, I think we got the family plan after they stopped offering early upgrades for the "master line."
So that means I do one of the following...
Hit up eBay and see if I can get a phone there at a decent price. I'm hoping I can snag a Galaxy Nexus but some of the prices for those phones are going ridiculously high.
Save up and buy the phone at full price.

trparky said:
I've been looking myself as well for an upgrade too but my official upgrade doesn't come for another year. My line isn't the "master line" in the family plan that my line is part of. Also, I think we got the family plan after they stopped offering early upgrades for the "master line."
So that means I do one of the following...
Hit up eBay and see if I can get a phone there at a decent price. I'm hoping I can snag a Galaxy Nexus but some of the prices for those phones are going ridiculously high.
Save up and buy the phone at full price.
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check out Swappa, or follow any of the "big" devs on twitter as they usually relay messages for people trying to sell devices
blazing through on my Nexus Prime via XDA app

I had to sat good bye also. Didnt have an upgrade so paid retail for 2 razr maxx. It has been the best phone to date for me atleast. Stock or Rooted it is a great phone and havent had a complaint. By the way I have 2 charges for sale with extras if anyone interested.

Congrats on being able to switch. We all should expect/own a phone that works. For some, the Charge fits the bill. Unfortunately, for others, the Charge is plagued by many flaws.
Personally, I'm waiting for CTIA(and whenever Samsung's event is) to see what's available for Verizon. I have an early upgrade available, but I'll wait it out.
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The charge is a nice phone but as people say it just doesnt work or fit my needs.

Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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luis86dr said:
Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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Me too.......

That is the best Verizon phone right now. Luckily my charge has been good to me. Looking forward to quad core, 720p, zero delay cam when I get my upgrade in Jan.
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luis86dr said:
Works for me. Don't get me wrong I've been eyeballing the Razr maxx but can't see myself paying retail for it.
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Same here...think I might wait for the next gen of razor maxx...maybe a asop maxx...even better battery life without blur
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JihadSquad said:
Me too.......
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Well everyone that said that their gps worked for them no problem it never worked for use. It took forever. When my wife travels she takes enough stuff with her and needed something that worked. With the maxx we got everything we needed. A phone that locked on within 30 seconds, battery life that is incredible. Most everything we needed was there. People will say buy used. With new we get a warranty and the assurion protection. These can be used for a write off as a business expense.

Scored a Samsung Galaxy Nexus for $400 on Craigslist. I already verified the ESN with Verizon and they say that the ESN is clean. In an hour or so I'm going to be going with a friend of mine to go pick the phone up in a Verizon Retail Store to have the phone checked out by a Verizon store representative as well as activate it on my account.
It has been a nice ride with the Droid Charge but it is time to move on and getting a Galaxy Nexus for $400 is like a dream come true. It is a steal of a deal.

We will definitely miss you... you've been 1 of the better ones around here for a long time.... you have helped more people than I can count... enjoy your new phone you deserve it...
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

I'm waiting until the next set of phones to come out I want a keyboard phone like the droid 4 but will wait and see if something else hits the market I love my stratosphere but it just feels way to old now I love it and is still the best phone I ever had but its time to get something else new I'm worried about switching to motorola as there phones are hard to root and have locked boot loaders
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I'll stay around here helping people with this phone. I'm not going to take down my one Android site with all of the helpful info on it, that would be a great disservice to the community. I'm going to be keeping the Droid Charge for tinkering and whatnot.

trparky said:
Scored a Samsung Galaxy Nexus for $400 on Craigslist. I already verified the ESN with Verizon and they say that the ESN is clean. In an hour or so I'm going to be going with a friend of mine to go pick the phone up in a Verizon Retail Store to have the phone checked out by a Verizon store representative as well as activate it on my account.
It has been a nice ride with the Droid Charge but it is time to move on and getting a Galaxy Nexus for $400 is like a dream come true. It is a steal of a deal.
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Good deal, iprob would have done the same. Stop back to the charge forum someday, well have cake and icecream for your return.
Charge-TwStock ? / Bought this app!

trparky said:
I'll stay around here helping people with this phone. I'm not going to take down my one Android site with all of the helpful info on it, that would be a great disservice to the community. I'm going to be keeping the Droid Charge for tinkering and whatnot.
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Glad to hear it....
SENT FROM THE DOG POUND

I wouldn't buy moto personally, others seem to like it and from the looks of it it's really smooth. After playing with my moms droid 4, it seems blur makes everything difficult and things aren't as easy to set\ find things (probably been on touchwiz too long and need to explore others). My sister likes her droid 3 and my mom loves hers D4, I hope you will too with the MAXX. Good luck, enjoy that awesome machine!

By the looks of how technolgy for android is acknowledging upgrading our batterys to high mah batterys it seems more of these companys will follow motos lead. Especially since 4g practically destroys these batterys. By the time I have a upgrade devices with quad core and better batterys should be available. Kinda worth the wait.
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**OFFICIAL** What Phone Should I Buy?

Attention!
In light of all the posts that are deleted and/or closed due to many off-topic posts about what device a person should buy, I have created this official thread.
Although XDA is not a place to extensively talk about what device person should buy, some forums permit it. So to help keep the threads a little cleaner, you may post your questions here.
Granted there are other sites more into device reviews and comparisons, but in the interest of keeping some people happy, and to avoid getting posts deleted, this thread is created for people who have no idea what device to get.
In the end, you should still march your happy self to a shop, and play with the devices that are available. Only then will you be satisfied with your purchase.
Any posts elsewhere asking such questions, that should be in this thread, will still be deleted or closed. This includes posting multi-duplicated posts in several forums outside of official threads.
Thanks, and Hope you use this.

pre order the htc one!!!!
wel, i had the atrix 4g and did alot with it. now i got the atrix 2. i like it more in terms of camera screen and overall feel and preformance, but this bootloader it bringing me down in terms of wanting more out of this awesome phone. so, with that said....around the ninth of may i will be leaving the atrix 2 threads as i have just pre ordered a htc one on [email protected] and will be moving there. the atrix 2 is going to a good friend as we are on aplan together but he has no knowledge of android so seeing that its already rooted and has a custom rom im sure ill he back off and on keeping him up to date with the latest and greatest i know this phone will get here soon. thanks devs for all the hard work for this device and maybe ill see a few of you in the htc one threads.

Unlocked Galaxy Nexus, no contract, $400 direct from Google. No brainer
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loved my atrix 4g. favorite phone ever. screen broke though and insurance didn't have any more so i had to get an atrix 2. build quality, screen and camera are better. sacrificed fingerprint sensor, battery life and slightly better processor for it though. also the dev support on the atrix 2 doesn't come close to the support for the OG atrix.

Galaxy S III
Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!

V1P3R92 said:
Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!
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I'd get a Nexus just because the SIII is basically a beefier Nexus with TouchWiz 4.0 instead of straight ICS, but that's more personal preference than anything.

V1P3R92 said:
Guys what do you think? Is it worth it to buy Galaxy S III right now?? Later? Or don't buy it at all?!
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The Galaxy S III will be a great phone, they rooted it before it was even released and they already have an insecure kernel and boot image, so if you like ROMs and flashing. then that is the phone to get.
I will have a Galaxy S III the day it is released. I am in no way getting rid of the Atrix2, it will no longer be my daily driver, so I can hack the crap out the Atrix2, and get us some more great things, without having to worry about not being able to use my phone for an extended period of time, if I want to work on something over a whole weekend or something.

acondie13 said:
loved my atrix 4g. favorite phone ever. screen broke though and insurance didn't have any more so i had to get an atrix 2. build quality, screen and camera are better. sacrificed fingerprint sensor, battery life and slightly better processor for it though. also the dev support on the atrix 2 doesn't come close to the support for the OG atrix.
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This is the boat I am in...my screen has gone bonkers, and my IT group wants to replace my Atrix with the Atrix 2. I had written off the A2 when they first gave me a choice...but this time I don't have a choice. Too bad because I have just about all the OG Atrix docks (car, lapdock, standard, HD, etc).
What I really want to know is whether or not I can modify the unit. With the OG Atrix now starting to see ICS with CM9 and AOKP, what will I be missing with the A2?

S3 or One X w'd be better choice
s3 comes with cheap build quality and One X lags in spite of its Quad core factor.
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kc92iyngr said:
S3 or One X w'd be better choice
s3 comes with cheap build quality and One X lags in spite of its Quad core factor.
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Honestly they are looking like the 2 strong contenders..... Sg3 boast a bit more cutting edge features and looks like one x does not have sd storage????? If I had the choice it would be Sg3 all day..... All boils down to preferences and needs do you need all Sg3 offers or would one x work for you.....

every htc phone sux in battery department....while SG3 Luks cheapish 4 a very high end phone ....i think sg2 is best and since price have gone down it more of a better choice...it can do everything what sg3 nd htc one x do....the only thing i t lacks is a hd display ....but seriously i saw htc one x nd SG2 hand to hand nd i dont notice any diffence in display pixel density....both look same....nothing big difference its just a hype of hd nothing more ......

justin
cool beans

I'm trying to decide if I should trade the Atrix 2 for a SGS2. Somebody at craigslits wants to trade. What do you think?

Shoot, I would take that offer.

nahuelarg86 said:
I'm trying to decide if I should trade the Atrix 2 for a SGS2. Somebody at craigslits wants to trade. What do you think?
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I've posted my MB865 both on eBay and on Craig's List, and no takers. I've set the price very low and still have no luck trying to offload it. Guess I will just choke down the $199.00 from AT&T with a new 2 year for the SGS3.
C'es la vie...

Best Buy will probably buy it from you. Now I'm glad that I got the "buyback guarantee" thing. Once my contract is up I'll get about $150 for it to put towards another phone...more if I go in earlier. Earlier's looking good.

just wandering what you want to do that you can't with the A2 besides use a new rom everyday?

rdhoggattjr said:
just wandering what you want to do that you can't with the A2 besides use a new rom everyday?
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AOSP and AOKP are not going to work unless we unlock the bootloader. That is what I really like... I think blur is clumsy and fat...
The ONLY things about this phone that are great is that it is solid, and the battery is amazing.
Developing anything on this phone is a pain... my sgs 3 will be here tomorrow or tues at the latest, and I already have a kernel and cm9 compiled and ready to test and release over there.

RowanOak said:
Best Buy will probably buy it from you. Now I'm glad that I got the "buyback guarantee" thing. Once my contract is up I'll get about $150 for it to put towards another phone...more if I go in earlier. Earlier's looking good.
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I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and am curious - does Best Buy only buy back phones purchased from their store, or could I turn in my Atrix 2 purchased from an AT&T location?

aguacateojos said:
I've seen this mentioned a couple of times and am curious - does Best Buy only buy back phones purchased from their store, or could I turn in my Atrix 2 purchased from an AT&T location?
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No it does not have to have been bought at a best buy. I traded my HTC inspire that I bought at an AT&T corp store for the A2 and I had money left to buy a 32GB and a 64GB SDcard.
So basically I got the A2 and a 32GB SDcard, and a 64GB SDcard all for trading in my HTC Inspire 4g that was bought for 99 bucks at an AT&T corp store. So basically the phone was free and they gave me 2 SDcards with it...
Now I will say if you have ANY issues BB will screw you over, so be careful, and if you have an issue they will MAKE you get a geek squad monthly support contract... I told them to F-off, and took the first A2 that broke into the AT&T Corp store right across the street and AT&T still took care of me.
Oh, and I bought my SGS 3 from the AT&T website... no more BB after the issues with support even though it was 32 days after purchase.
I will say though, that if you need to trade your phone in to get another one, for money reasons, BB is the place to go. I have heard of certain AT&T corp stores doing trade ins, but the ones around me have never done that.

[Q] Way to Delay Upgrade?

Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?

I don't know the answer to your question but I just switched to Verizon from sprint and got the S3. Waiting on it in the mail now. I don't think u can do what u want but im not sure. Hopefully someone can answer it for sure
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You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.

Brian Gove said:
You would have to purchase a phone at full retail price. Then you could get the pro rated price later.
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Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...

fenixnr said:
Or he could buy a phone off craigslist and go in there with one already...
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This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?

Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.

jaben2 said:
Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...

PsiPhiDan said:
I had not thought of this option yet, although the thought of going pre-paid doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I doubt my wife would go for it either. I have heard that pre-paid is getting more popular though - any suggestions for going pre-paid if I do explore that route? There's so many options out there now...
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Go to the galaxy nexus forum and look at the threads that say prepaid service guides or something similar. One of them says "rule your plan with..." they all talk about the best prepaid plans for the money.
Here is one of the more popular ones http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455014
Obviously you don't have to do it with a nexus, you can use one of the prepaid ****ty phones. They just talk about the plans there. When I read it a long time ago most of them involved getting the prepaid phone and then switching out the sim card so you could just chill with the original phone until something interesting comes out on Verizon.

jaben2 said:
Another option would be do the pre paid route until you find a phone you want, then jump on contract.
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Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?

Brian Gove said:
Wouldn't that be essentially the same thing as buying a phone and going month to month on Verizon until getting the phone he wants at a pro-rated price and contract?
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Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.

PsiPhiDan said:
Only difference would be pre-paid may be cheaper, if I'm reading your message correctly.
Also, thanks for the quick replies everyone! I look forward to joining this community soon. Looks like I'll be getting an SIII this week. If it was just me, I'd employ one of these ideas you guys gave me. But since my wife is included... I'm gonna go the simple route and get the SIII, which was equivalent to my current phone anyway (EVO 4G LTE). Seems like it has the dev support to last the two years like my old EVO 4G did (it can run JB now - amazing). Plus the extra RAM future proofs it a bit. I don't game, so I don't need quad core I doubt. The S4 chip is a beast anywho.
Thanks again guys! See you in the forums soon!
Oh one last quick question: any issues I'll have rooting and unlocking this phone? I've only owned HTC and been with Sprint, so I'm unsure of how to do all of this. I hear Verizon is not very friendly about unlocking phones.
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The bootloader can be unlocked easily, obtaining root is a simple one-click affair, and VZW has never been friendly about anything but your open wallet. Congrats on the new phone and carrier switch.

Brian Gove said:
It was just a pain in the ass to get it unlocked to begin with. Since it's been figured out it's simple. Bookmark the guide in my sig, Droidstyle did a good job about laying it all out.
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Okay that sounds good, thank you!
I was concerned mostly because with my phone, only the non-updated ones can be rooted and unlocked right now. Since I had mine since launch day, my original bootloader was able to be hacked and exploited. New phones bought today have different bootloaders that have patched the explored holes. HTC can be evil that way. I know Samsung is more dev friendly, but I wanted to make sure there were no stipulations like with my phone where I would be screwed if I bought a new one now.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hello everyone, I'm a longtime Sprint user, and am looking forward to my switch to Verizon very soon! I currently own an EVO 4G LTE, and am taking a look at what phones I should get when I switch companies. The best available phone right now appears to undoubtedly be the SIII.
I have heard that there are some pretty awesome phones on the horizon, and I would love to get them (HTC's apparent phablet, Razr Maxx HD, etc.). However, I really don't think I can wait until November because I can't possibly tolerate Sprint anymore and their ridiculous lack of coverage in my area (they told me the towers are being upgraded for the past 7 months).
So my question is this: is there any way to delay my upgraded phone price so that I can use it once these newer phones are released? In other words, can I use another phone or do something else in order to not use that contract upgrade until November, even if I sign up for their service this week? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you would just go get the SIII if you were in my position, that's useful input too. I love the phone, I just feel like it will be "dated" in a month. Seems like the worst possible time to buy... I'm in a pickle.
Thoughts?
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If you are going to wait 3 weeks you might as well wait for the note 2. Just my two cents.
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There's still no release date on the Note 2 is there?
Plus I'm not sure a phone that large is for me. I'm getting the Note 10.1 soon, so do I need a phone that's a tablet too? I'm not sure. Plus I won't pay over 200 for a phone. I'm guessing the Note 2 will go for 300 or more.
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When I switched to Verizon from T-Mobile in December I went month to month on an OG Droid I owned until the GNex came out and then I upgraded

PsiPhiDan said:
This is an interesting idea - so I would need to find a Verizon-capable smartphone on Craigslist as cheap as possible, and then use the "upgrade" later when I want?
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It wouldn't have to be a smart phone. Buy a cheap flip phone or something. However there is always something Coming soon so you may find yourself with that cheap phone for a long time

Nexus 4 move

I hope this is appropriate but was wondering if any of the Devs for this device plan on doing any work for the Nexus 4 ? I have been on the My Touch since the day it came out and have finally purchased me a new Nexus 4 and honestly It would be awesome to see some of your work over there as well.
My son is inheriting the My Touch 4g so I will not be completely leaving but something honest feels strange about moving on from this phone. Don't get me wrong I am way excited about the Nexus 4 experience though
Thank you all again for everything you have brought to the My Touch World!!!

The N4 has tons of developers. No need to bring some from a device that should have been dead a year ago.

I am not sure I understand what your saying ? My Touch should have been dead a year ago so there's no point in adding a Nexus 4 as a phone that a DEV would build for ? I would think a lot of DEVS write for more than one phone anyway?

i would like to get a nexus 4, i really want a new phone but i dont earn enought to just buy it...
Enjoy N4 when u move on give it to me

jocami said:
i would like to get a nexus 4, i really want a new phone but i dont earn enought to just buy it...
Enjoy N4 when u move on give it to me
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One of these guys., Looking for handouts huh!If you want one it is called SAVE for it ..I would like a new car but i wouldn't ask someone to give me theres when there done with it..FLAME.

...Awesome... got a Nexus 4. He released Toasted Marshmallow for it.

estallings15 said:
...Awesome... got a Nexus 4. He released Toasted Marshmallow for it.
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What up Bro! Yep I seen that! Sure is alot to choose from over there! I heard that stock rom with franco kernel is way to go is that true.(I have no idea since i don't have one yet.)I am getting one myself next month and just curious.

Should have waited another month and got a real phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one/#specs

garleest said:
Should have waited another month and got a real phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
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That looks sweet maybe I will just wait until that comes out !I am fine for now with my sensation and still have my glacier as a back up so I am in no rush anyhow!

estallings15 said:
...Awesome... got a Nexus 4. He released Toasted Marshmallow for it.
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He actually got rid of it supposedly.
He's getting the HTC one
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What up Bro! Yep I seen that! Sure is alot to choose from over there! I heard that stock rom with franco kernel is way to go is that true.(I have no idea since i don't have one yet.)I am getting one myself next month and just curious.
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Um, no.
PUB or Carbon ROM with either Franco or Trinity Kernel. I prefer Franco's for the colors but Trinity gives me better battery. Project ELE is pretty good too.
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garleest said:
Should have waited another month and got a real phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
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That would've been a great phone if it didn't have the sense overlay and was released a few months ago. KLP is right around the corner and who knows how long it'll take HTC to push out that update. It is a nice phone though.
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invasion2 said:
The N4 has tons of developers. No need to bring some from a device that should have been dead a year ago.
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NO! The mt4g is going to live on! Do you realize that right now the mt4g has a more recent version (the most recent one, 4.2.2)of android through custom rooms than MOST new phones? HOW BOUT THAT?! The mytouch 4g is never going to die. There is a lot of love for this oldie, and people really like the hardware. Jelly bean actually runs faster than gingerbread on my particular device! Not only that, but its actually a popular phone. You can still see many people walking around with a mt4g.
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K-JACKS said:
What up Bro! Yep I seen that! Sure is alot to choose from over there! I heard that stock rom with franco kernel is way to go is that true.(I have no idea since i don't have one yet.)I am getting one myself next month and just curious.
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He didn't get rid of it, last I head. He hard bricked it and it has to be repaired.
There is no best ROM. PM or gtalk me what features you like and I'll give you some places to start. There are several GREAT kernels with a myriad of features. We can discuss that.
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garleest said:
Should have waited another month and got a real phone.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
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There is always a newer, more powerful phone right around the corner. Quite frankly a LOT of people are sick to death of HTC's locked down bootloaders, HTC Dev, and slow updates. While the Nexus 4 is simple, it's quite literally made for nerds. Unlocking the bootloader is as simple as a single fastboot command. From there it's gravy. To each his own, though. The beauty of Android is choice.

There is always a newer said:
Bottom line for me is QUALITY. And I just don't see it in the Nexus 4.
There's a reason the Nexus 4 only costs $299. As the saying goes "you get what you pay for"
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htc_mytouch said:
Bottom line for me is QUALITY. And I just don't see it in the Nexus 4.
There's a reason the Nexus 4 only costs $299. As the saying goes "you get what you pay for"
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The Nexus 4 is a "QUALITY" device.
The price is low b/c Google sells their devices at prices close to how much it costs to make the device. The phone is actually more expensive at other retailers than the $299 8gb model you saw on Google Play. The phone is $599 if you buy it from Best Buy for example.
As far as "you get what you pay for", that can be interpreted to be negative for something "cheap" and something "expensive"
For example: Buying a crappy 10in, off-brand no name Android tablet w/ an 800x480 resolution and a dual core 1ghz processor for maybe $79.99
Second example: Buying an apple product. Nuff said.
But while we're talking about apple, I should mention that the iPhone 5 costs apple roughly ~$200 to make. Let that soak in.

I2IEAILiiTY said:
The Nexus 4 is a "QUALITY" device.
The price is low b/c Google sells their devices at prices close to how much it costs to make the device. The phone is actually more expensive at other retailers than the $299 8gb model you saw on Google Play. The phone is $599 if you buy it from Best Buy for example.
As far as "you get what you pay for", that can be interpreted to be negative for something "cheap" and something "expensive"
For example: Buying a crappy 10in, off-brand no name Android tablet w/ an 800x480 resolution and a dual core 1ghz processor for maybe $79.99
Second example: Buying an apple product. Nuff said.
But while we're talking about apple, I should mention that the iPhone 5 costs apple roughly ~$200 to make. Let that soak in.
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Well said. You won't get anything across to that troll, though. Some people are too stubborn to learn.

I2IEAILiiTY said:
The Nexus 4 is a "QUALITY" device.
The price is low b/c Google sells their devices at prices close to how much it costs to make the device. The phone is actually more expensive at other retailers than the $299 8gb model you saw on Google Play. The phone is $599 if you buy it from Best Buy for example.
As far as "you get what you pay for", that can be interpreted to be negative for something "cheap" and something "expensive"
For example: Buying a crappy 10in, off-brand no name Android tablet w/ an 800x480 resolution and a dual core 1ghz processor for maybe $79.99
Second example: Buying an apple product. Nuff said.
But while we're talking about apple, I should mention that the iPhone 5 costs apple roughly ~$200 to make. Let that soak in.
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Since your therory is that the Nexus 4 is so much more valuable than $299.00. I have a great ideal for you.
Buy 100 of them at $299 with tax and shipping the final price should be around $350 per phone. Total price= $35000.00
List them on Ebay for 599.00 plus free shipping and no taxes Total sales would be $59900.00 - $6000 for shipping and fees Grand Total Sales =53900.00
Your profit would be $18,900.00 How could you turn down that much easy money? Hell if you can't do a 100. Do 5 that would be almost a $1000.00 profit
Some how I don't think your theroy would work. I just seen a brand new in the box on a buy it now for $325.00 shipping included.
A value of an object is what market will bear. Nothing else. The reason Google is selling them so cheap is they found one of the cheapest manufacturers to make them. Do you actually think that they would be selling at $299 if Samsung or Htc made them?
Nothing to learn here other than a Nexus 4 is worth about $299.00. In a few months $150.00

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Since your therory is that the Nexus 4 is so much more valuable than $299.00. I have a great ideal for you.
Buy 100 of them at $299 with tax and shipping the final price should be around $350 per phone. Total price= $35000.00
List them on Ebay for 599.00 plus free shipping and no taxes Total sales would be $59900.00 - $6000 for shipping and fees Grand Total Sales =53900.00
Your profit would be $18,900.00 How could you turn down that much easy money? Hell if you can't do a 100. Do 5 that would be almost a $1000.00 profit
Some how I don't think your theroy would work. I just seen a brand new in the box on a buy it now for $325.00 shipping included.
A value of an object is what market will bear. Nothing else. The reason Google is selling them so cheap is they found one of the cheapest manufacturers to make them. Do you actually think that they would be selling at $299 if Samsung or Htc made them?
Nothing to learn here other than a Nexus 4 is worth about $299.00. In a few months $150.00
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Except that the GNex sold for $299. Who made that again? Oh, right. Samsung.

htc_mytouch said:
Since your therory is that the Nexus 4 is so much more valuable than $299.00. I have a great ideal for you.
Buy 100 of them at $299 with tax and shipping the final price should be around $350 per phone. Total price= $35000.00
List them on Ebay for 599.00 plus free shipping and no taxes Total sales would be $59900.00 - $6000 for shipping and fees Grand Total Sales =53900.00
Your profit would be $18,900.00 How could you turn down that much easy money? Hell if you can't do a 100. Do 5 that would be almost a $1000.00 profit
Some how I don't think your theroy would work. I just seen a brand new in the box on a buy it now for $325.00 shipping included.
A value of an object is what market will bear. Nothing else. The reason Google is selling them so cheap is they found one of the cheapest manufacturers to make them. Do you actually think that they would be selling at $299 if Samsung or Htc made them?
Nothing to learn here other than a Nexus 4 is worth about $299.00. In a few months $150.00
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You are completely fixating on an irrelevant point. All he is saying is just because it is priced competitively, doesn't mean its a low quality device. You need to understand that you can't judge the quality of a device by the markup a cell phone carrier may make. For example, T-Mobile charges 413 dollars for a Galaxy S2, no way in hell that STILL costs that much to build a plastic phone, but, by your logic, the build quality would be better and it would be a WAY better phone. See what i am getting at? Don't go around trying to be argumentative and douchey, i saw your post on the B.S. thread. Take it down a notch.

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You are completely fixating on an irrelevant point. All he is saying is just because it is priced competitively, doesn't mean its a low quality device. You need to understand that you can't judge the quality of a device by the markup a cell phone carrier may make. For example, T-Mobile charges 413 dollars for a Galaxy S2, no way in hell that STILL costs that much to build a plastic phone, but, by your logic, the build quality would be better and it would be a WAY better phone. See what i am getting at? Don't go around trying to be argumentative and douchey, i saw your post on the B.S. thread. Take it down a notch.
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This is what I said "Bottom line for me is QUALITY. And I just don't see it in the Nexus 4" And I still don't.
I'm hearing rumors that the back cracks around the camera and it's easily scratched. If that's the case I don't consider that a quality build. Really don't want a phone that looks two years old after 6 months.
As far as cost. Other people brought that into the equation. Which was really irrelevent because my statement was always about build quality. Period! But I respo
nded because i felt I was getting smoke blown up my A** It doesn't matter if the phone is $299 or $599 if it has issues I don't want it.
This is just one of the articles I've read.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-4-cracked-back-glass-135237/

htc_mytouch said:
This is what I said "Bottom line for me is QUALITY. And I just don't see it in the Nexus 4" And I still don't.
I'm hearing rumors that the back cracks around the camera and it's easily scratched. If that's the case I don't consider that a quality build. Really don't want a phone that looks two years old after 6 months.
As far as cost. Other people brought that into the equation. Which was really irrelevent because my statement was always about build quality. Period! But I respo
nded because i felt I was getting smoke blown up my A** It doesn't matter if the phone is $299 or $599 if it has issues I don't want it.
This is just one of the articles I've read.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-4-cracked-back-glass-135237/
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All phones have issues. HTC can definitely attest to that. Never seen one of theirs that didn't. There is no perfect phone.
My N4 hasn't cracked because I keep a bumper on it and my back isn't scratched because I keep a clear protector on it. The phone still looks amazing. Problem solved. By the way, I work outside, every weekday, regardless of the weather. I have zero issues with the quality of the build of this device and I have it in my hand every day. I also came from a myTouch 4G, so I know what solid build quality feels like.

Does the Google Play Nexus 5 ever go on sale?

I know it just came out, but I do not need to buy one until February. Should I wait?

No you ough wait until next year when they realse the N6 i think.
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Yes it does....
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I know it just came out, but I do not need to buy one until February. Should I wait?
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If you are waiting for Google Play Store, please don't wait for them. The best you can do is get free shipping or playstore credit. For retail, the price starts to come down after a few months. If it is close to Christmas, Easter or any major holidays then there are great deals to be taken.

On a new device like this, Google doesn't usually reduce the price. They may offer additional incentives for the holiday season, such as Play Store credit, free shipping, etc., but that's about it. The price won't be reduced until just before the next nexus phone is released, probably 4th quarter 2014. Of course, there's always the possibility of some crazy event affecting the norm... but I wouldn't count on it.

Phone is already cheap for what you get. Check out the Moto G for $200.
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joshpdavis80 said:
I know it just came out, but I do not need to buy one until February. Should I wait?
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The price is already so low for what it is. Please stop being so cheap.
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joshpdavis80 said:
I know it just came out, but I do not need to buy one until February. Should I wait?
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on sale!!?? just like the other user said the moto g mite be the phone for u.. the N5 is already crazy cheap for what u get.. do be honest one of the main reasons i got the n5 is the development it gets.. this is my first nexus phone and i love it.. i have had some many top of the line phone in the past 3 years and none of them come close to the love this phone gets.. i will never get another htc one.. or a galaxy phone again... im sticking with nexus:good:

I am fine with paying $349.That is a great price for the phone. What I am trying to decide is whether to purchase it now or wait for February when I will actually get to use the phone. I want to purchase it now, so that I can have it already. However, if it it might get reduced between now and then, it would be wise to wait. In the past have the prices stayed constant until the new model came out?

joshpdavis80 said:
I am fine with paying $349.That is a great price for the phone. What I am trying to decide is whether to purchase it now or wait for February when I will actually get to use the phone. I want to purchase it now, so that I can have it already. However, if it it might get reduced between now and then, it would be wise to wait. In the past have the prices stayed constant until the new model came out?
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It dont get any better than what the price is on play store. Hell, I got a 32GB one and it was cheaper than what T-Mobile wanted for it. There's your savings lol

P.Mobile said:
i will never get another htc one.. or a galaxy phone again... im sticking with nexus:good:
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I'm done with Galaxy phones too. I booted up my S4 today to update it to the new MK2 OTA update because I'm getting it ready to sell. After a few weeks with my N5 I had already forgotten what a pain in the a$$ Knox is. Never again!