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Thinking about trading my A500 for a Xoom...

I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.

Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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muzz3256 said:
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.

So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!

The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.

boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......

muzz3256 said:
Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.

Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.

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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.

I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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muzz3256 said:
Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.

Daemon1978 said:
There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.

I did and I'm happy I did it.

I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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What tablet?

I'm looking to get an android tablet and I've narrowed it down to 3. Asus transformer, Acer iconia a500 or Motorola xoom I've chose these 3 as they are fairly cheap and look set to get much cheaper as new tablets come out. The only problem I have is all reviews I read are heavily biased towards an ipad2. I would like some honest opinions from people who have actually used the devices, rooted them installed custom roms and also what apps are like running as I've read apps don't all work at full screen on 10" screens.
Cheers in advance for any advice.
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I'm looking to get an android tablet and I've narrowed it down to 3. Asus transformer, Acer iconia a500 or Motorola xoom I've chose these 3 as they are fairly cheap and look set to get much cheaper as new tablets come out. The only problem I have is all reviews I read are heavily biased towards an ipad2. I would like some honest opinions from people who have actually used the devices, rooted them installed custom roms and also what apps are like running as I've read apps don't all work at full screen on 10" screens.
Cheers in advance for any advice.
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The Asus Transformer Prime has the best stats, but I think you're referring to the eeePad Transformer in your list (which IMHO looks like crap from the reviews I've read).
From the 3 you listed, I'd go with the Xoom. But seriously, why not just save for a couple more months and get the Asus Transformer Prime. You'll thank yourself later!

Did look at them and they look nice but its not a matter of saving I just don't want to spend that much on what is really just a toy for me (can't see it replacing my PC). What I'm more concerned with is the report I read that a lot of apps don't scale up to the big screen. Is this true or was it just another apple fanboy slagging of anything non apple.
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The whole belief that honeycomb is unfriendly to apps total BS. I have had a Transformer since April and have rooted it and am running Revolver rom and even before i rooted it it was extremely slick. The home screen isn't very good but install ADW EX and you get the best homescreen experience ever. I have over 100 apps on mine and they all work great and look beautiful. You will, of coarse, find some that aren't that great but that happens everywhere.
Now as a transformer owner i can honestly recommend any android tablet to someone ( Who actually knows abut android) and you will enjoy it. I would suggest you get the Prime though because it's much better and you get more for your money. Asus is really great with updates so you shouldn't have to root it for a while
Also also on it being a toy, it can totally replace you destop, you can get the keyboard dock when you want and make it a full on ultrabook

The transformer is my favourite so far in my opinion it looks nice. I love android so its nice to know it runs nice. Thanks for letting me know about the apps it was my main concern. Now which one to chose? Hmmm.....
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If you are going for first generation tablets the transformer is the way to go but with CES this week you should wait to see what comes out of there

One thing I forgot to ask if I replace my PC can I still perform adb functions for my phone or do I still need windows.
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I also have a OG Transformer, and I like it a lot. It's fast, good looking and the dock is very cool. If you can find it for 300 bucks just buy it.
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I have a galaxy tab 10.1 and I really like it. My wife has an ipad2 and here is my take on these things. The galaxy tab is every bit as good as the ipad in many areas. internet browsing, email, etc. Where it falls behind the ipad is the apps.
My wife has Hbogo on her's, but I cant get it on mine. My wife has directv app which can watch some live tv, my same directv app doesn't have this feature. There are some great apps for the android tablets, but not nearly as many as the ipad2. The android apps don't seem to get all the attention as the ipad's.
I still like my tab a lot and I am hoping the apps will catch up.

I've owned a Xoom, Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the original Transformer.
If I had to choose between those three I think I would pick the original Transformer by Asus. Best experience I had out of the box.
Galaxy tab 10.1 was a very close second.
Now it is all about the Transformer Prime for me though. All I have to do is find one for sale.

HP Touchpad
kidding....but honestly if you can find one for ~$100 it can be quite possibly the best tablet available. Android is quite stable, even though currently its running gingerbread.
But I would wait, like someone said above CES is right around the corner, and who knows, ASUS could be like Sony and drop the price on the prime by $100. But if you are really set on a tablet now, do you really want something that is over a year old.
I would also consider that you take a look at the Tablet S with their recent price drop.

HP TouchPad
Not kidding.
Seriously, take a look at the forum for them, CM7 is coming along, CM9/ICS is progressing, and webOS is solid. At least consider it. 1.2GHz dual core, 1GB RAM, 10" screen, wireless charging dock available. The TouchPad had sold more units than any android tablet. The iPad is the only tablet that sold more units period. The cheaper than dirt price helped, but all those units out there mean there is a large userbase, and plenty of support.
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The sluggishness is really getting to me!!

i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.

I am also in the same boat here as well. I really want to love this device however for the money it needs to perform better. Not to mention android apps for tablets are just not good enough yet. I have a few days left on my best buy return and have a bad feeling I will be coming home with an Ipad 3. Hoping a 10" nexus tablet will finally kick up the android tablet development to where it needs to be in the future.
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aydc said:
I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.
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Right now I'm on my wife's ipad 2 because my xda app force close on me on my infinity.... I love android and I keep trying to love my tablet but just using this ipad 2 makes think twice about not selling my infinity and getting the ipad 3. App wise I don't really care because I can actually find better apps on my tablet than I can on my wife's ipad although their rpg scene is crazy good. But the only think holding me back on getting and ipad is the storage because I'm the type of person that likes putting shows and movies on my tab. That's why I'm leaning more towards the note 10.1 since its smooth and has storage and keyboard (although not like the infinity) but the screen resolution lmao... I'm a picky bastard n I like the best technology that is out. For me the infinity would be great if it wasn't for the above problems... So I am kind of stuck in a loop and I don't know what to do.. Any suggestions?

hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.

That's what I might just do... Witch is sad cuz I hate apple but I wasted to much money to get sluggish performance.

My old phone ( SE X10i ) with android 2.3.3 is smother than my JB tf 700. Browsing and typing are perfect, no lag no crashing or random reset... Tomorrow i'll get it exchanged for the loose screen, hope i get a better one.

i made the exact same statements a few days ago. I was so close to selling mines. Then i got convinced to root. I saw a major improvement in everything. I have not had and lag, reboots, stutters, anything, since i rooted. As sad as it may seem, this may be the only way to get the device stable (for those that are having issues). I recommend rooting before you return it.
but i agree with the other poster, if you are not happy and think you will like the ipad better, just get it.

I'm in a love/ hate type of relationship with my tab. When it works, it's a really great experience, but when it doesn't ( which is most of the time), I'm ready to chuck it out of the window. The random reboots, constant sluggish performance, and the copy and pasting snafu's really make me dislike this tablet. What really irks me is that there isn't any reason why this tab should be showing these symptoms. From what I've read the nexus 7 and transformer prime aren't victims of these issues to this extent, and the infinity is better tech wise. Like i said before, when the infinity works, it works very well, but the performance is far from consistent. I'm hoping a CM10/custom Rom can iron out these issues, and I'll have an infinity that outperforms my GN running CM10.

hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.

Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.

be my lasst Asus product. This will probably
The above sentence was typed with a keyboard, after I typed "probably" it decided to lag out and well you can see the rest. I decided NOT to edit it because it's a prime example of how terrible the Infinity is and so is the rest of Asus's tablets.
I really like the Infinity but it's pisses me off to no end that they decided to cheap out on the internal memory and this is what you have to deal with. This thing is frustrating to use and chrome is about useless on this. I guess I'm going to have to unlock, which is NOT what I want to do and try out some different roms because this tab makes me want to punch my fist through it's beautiful screen.
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Jarrett601 said:
Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.
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So you used it for a few days presumably before flashing a DIFFERENT rom and it's working fine for you, that's great. I've been using mine since pretty much release and it was pretty quick at first too, or at least it seemed that way. I'm probably going to flash a custom rom and see an improvement as well but the fact remains that I shouldn't have to. If the iPad performed as badly as Asus tablets, it would be all over the media. I wouldn't buy an iPad, because I don't care much for Apple, but I know they wouldn't release a half baked product like the Infinity. It's a real shame that the Android OEMs can't bake a complete product, seems like there's an endless sea of garbage and I'd wager to say no real competition among Android tabs.

okantomi said:
With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.
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From what I read it is a improvement but not a huge one that I would be willing to give my warranty away for it. The Rom is in ver 2.0 already and is a clean experience, but it does not fix the issues I have on a daily basis. The thing that irks me the most is that this tablet has so much potential and it looks
awesome and then my friend comes over with and iPad 3 or I play with my Wifes iPad 2 and I feel like my infinity is two years old technology wise compare to them. I wish at least my browsing experience would be good (which is what I am suffering with the most lately). I tried the debug settings and also browser to ram before when I had root with ics, and it was good for a while but it began acting up again for no operant reason. I just hope we get a update from Asus with some more fixes, and funny thing is my build quality is superb, no lightBleed, screen lifting, nor did I have random reboots till recently when I updated to jb.
On another note, how can I downgrade without unlocking? So I can root again and use root keeper to get back to jb with root? I read those threads they have on how to root jb but no one has answer my question if I need to be unblocked.
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BTrack said:
If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.
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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?

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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?
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Get a note 10.1 if you want to stay on Android. It's very fast and lag free at the cost of screen resolution.
This lag reminds me of my old Samsung Galaxy S that has a nand chip with slow write i/o, but good read i/o.
The lag was fixed by moving /data/data to the much faster but smaller onenand chip as it requires alot of write i/o. The rest of /data and /system was moved to the nand chip as it uses alot of read i/o, but very little write i/o (updating apps).
I wonder if a similar fix will work for the TF700?

I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.

czerdrill said:
I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.

if you have used the infinty for any length of time you will not be able to use the note 10.1 the screen is poor - i bought the note and used it for 2 hours and returned it
i cant speak about the stock jb as i have never used it - i am unlocked / rooted and running paranoidandroid 2.2 with holo launcher hd and it is very fast no lag whatsoever - also just ran pimp my rom v2.0 to speed it up even more !!
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czerdrill said:
I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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This is exactly my point. Why should the fluidity on a 3 year old iPad surpass ours?... I really don't like the Apple ecosystem, I love downloading things from my tablet and being able to use it right away not having to go to iTunes for everything music n video related. There is some hardware issue but to be honest is mostly software. Android as whole has not been fully optimised for all the different kinds of devices that support it. From full HD screen to non HD, from 10.1 screen to 4.0. There is to many different devices and that might be one of the problems with Android. Google should be a little bit more strict when it comes too software specially from other manufactures like Asus. Things like this put a bad image on Android as a whole. But like some one said earlier even this thing works good is the best, but why should I be relying on it working good sometimes and sometimes not. For 544$ this should not be the case.
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Unibrow said:
It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.
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I don't know about that, lag and sluggishness has been an issue with Android devices since the beginning of time. When i first got jb on my nexus i really thought they had finally figured it out, but within a couple of months the lag has returned in full force.
If it was an asus thing, it wouldn't be like that for all the Android devices i known.
Like i said, im not leaving Android because i still love it, but I'm also not going to pretend everything is fine when it's not.

Should i get TF700

Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?

You should have placed this thread elsewhere

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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this

Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.

The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.

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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).

Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.

Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/

I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.

Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/

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Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better

I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD

Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?

[Q] Get rid of the Infinity?

I am awaiting the arrival of a brand new ASUS Transformer TF700.I have read almost 90% of the issues,pros and cons with this tablet.This has thrown me for a loop and as an IT student I don't think one should have to be on a constant lookout for such an expensive item.Fortunately for me the tablet comes with a 14day return for money .I am not even going to open it,I am thinking of replacing it with the NEXUS 10. I am really afraid of taking a chance with such a tablet that can go defective at any time.There is no telling just how good the NEXUS 10 is,but from initial reports its better than gambling on the Infinity.What are your views on this ? Is the Infinity worth the stress ?

If you don't want the Infinity than get the Nexus. They are two different products for different purposes and use cases.
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It is all a matter of personal preference.
I owned the Infinity for 3 months before selling it. During that time, I exchanged it twice thinking I kept getting a defective tablet, because each one was slow, sluggish and had the occasional screen flicker. Not to mention the bad I/O. Another thing that bothered me is, most of the apps I used, and games I played, even YouTube, looked really washed out. I kept it until the JB update to see if it would make the tablet any better, but it didn't(to me anyway it felt more sluggish after). From day one of owning the tablet, I tried pretty hard to convince myself that I like the tablet, but after a while I gave up, and decided to sell it.
I bought the Nexus 10 when it launched, and from the moment I got it, I loved it. It's smooth, it's fast, the screen is awesome, and it feels real comfortable to hold. The front facing stereo speakers are also pretty cool, they sound great, and they can get pretty loud. All the apps that I used on the Infinity look way better on the Nexus 10.
This is just my personal opinion and preference though. It all depends on what you are going to use it for, and what you prefer.

I have owned the tf700 for about a month.
This is a fact. The read/write speed to the internal flash is really slow. To overcome this problem you will need to unlock and install a custom ROM/APKs. This will void your warranty.
It's not that the tf700 is unusable with slow flash IO, instead it makes the user experience so very aggravating.

I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.

Also waiting for Nexus 10 to come to my country and most probably its bye bye to my infinity then.
User experience just isnt what it should be. I also have ipad and even if I hate itunes and iOS I must say that the performance is so much better. And I am talking about the very first ipad.
You could think that there is something very badly wrong with Android but I also own Samsung Note 2 and there the performance is perfect. Also what i have tried some Samsung tablets they are smooth also. I just dont want lo-res screen on tablet so will try Nexus 10

The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.

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The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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I just got a nexus 10 and a week old tf700 and the user experience on the n10 is far better than the tf700. Everything just works and hardly any lag. I'm not sure how an unlocked tf700 compares though. Where the n10 fails for me is the lower contrast level of the n10. Black arent as black either. And the lack of kb with extended battery. I'm not sure which to keep.
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Thanks ..I like the expandability of the Asus Infinity,and as you rightly said its preference.I will have to do without the Infinity,and hope the Nexus 10 can deliver over the future problems it just might have.After all the Nexus10 has flaws as well

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I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
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I wish you good luck with it,just find its too expensive for me to risk bricking it.I' ll let you know my experience with the Nexus 10

I appreciate that so much as I 'm going to get the NEXUS 10 16gig as its all I can afford.Just worried about the lack of expandability,and no card slot.Guess I'll make do with it somehow.I love games movies and music...16gigs is nothing close to that enjoyment.

Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
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Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
I thought it was just me that thought the tf700 was not all it's advertised to be. Whatever browser I use seems slower than it should be and seems to force close too often.The biggest irritation is that I can't keep the email working. I have MS Outlook on my PC and used that to put email on my Razr Maxx and rooted Nook tablet and they work fine. On tf700 it either doesnt work at all or works a day or 2 then all emails disappear. Sometimes it will load a few msg then as soon as I read one all the rest disappear. I have uninsalled, reinstalled several times and even tried to install it using K-9 mail. Nothing works. Is mine a lemon or an I just doing something dumb? I just know enough to be dangerous!
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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lesonal said:
The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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So get an app for it. Or buy a proper alarm clock.... It's still tech, faults happen...

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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.

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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Any info helps man and thank you. I'm stuck between my n10 and tf700 right now so I'm really concerned that unlocking wont make it on par with the N10. Dull screen and no kb dock is the only thing steering me away from the n10 but performance is awesome. But I might have a hard time reselling an unlocked tf700 or I'll probably have to take a major los$. Christmas time rolling around so I have to support my hobby and xmas $hopping the best I can =)

An unlocked infinity is by far the best thing you can find. The community has offered a lot to this machine that Asus just couldn't. Laggy Internet are you kidding..? With browser2ram outperforms my pc. 870 on browsermark bench. Yes the io issue is there its poor hardware but we have come a long way since stock now you can't even notice it. This think now flyes. Plus dock plus amazing screen that you can actually see outdoors. N10 or ipad come out in the sun and play.. No way..
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