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Moto G & Optimus G [E970]

I'm on about to buy one of these phones, both on the same +- budget [280$ include shipping, tax, vat], if you have another other option on this price I would like to hear.
I want a strong phone [quad-core], durable-strong, available replacement parts [on ebay etc], xda community, good camera...
I know some of these requirements are valid to the one and non to the other and vice verse, thats why I can not decide between the both.
The Optimus G is pretty old but with better camera and 2gb ram [include sd card]
The Moto G is new, durable, strong, updated, don't realy know about how bad its camera...
Whould like for some recommendations...
thanks!

PsyOr said:
I'm on about to buy one of these phones, both on the same +- budget [280$ include shipping, tax, vat], if you have another other option on this price I would like to hear.
I want a strong phone [quad-core], durable-strong, available replacement parts [on ebay etc], xda community, good camera...
I know some of these requirements are valid to the one and non to the other and vice verse, thats why I can not decide between the both.
The Optimus G is pretty old but with better camera and 2gb ram [include sd card]
The Moto G is new, durable, strong, updated, don't realy know about how bad its camera...
Whould like for some recommendations...
thanks!
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I heard the camera on the moto g has some problems but the kit kat update fixed them, for spec wise the Optimus G has a better processor, bigger screen and bigger resolution and a better GPU while the Moto g has only a higher ppi. I would go with the moto g any day because LG phone Products suck D:

No, no problems on myne. mayby it happens ocasionaly..

moto g (2nd) vs Elephone P6000

I'm looking to buy a new device for me mum, which would you say is better?
both 5 inch HD screens. I would of easily gone with the moto g if it had 2gb ram. but the 1gb ram really puts me off. is there a similar phone as the moto g but with 2gb ram?
I can get the p6000 for £101 delivered.

Well, does your mum care software updates? If he cares, get Moto g. If not, i would pick p6000

eddydc1 said:
Well, does your mum care software updates? If he cares, get Moto g. If not, i would pick p6000
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so the mt6732 is much better than snapdragon 400?

salespalace said:
so the mt6732 is much better than snapdragon 400?
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Snapdragon usually means more battery efficient. Even with half the RAM, I think the Moto G (2nd Gen) is overall a more reliable and better quality product.

elephone p6000 screen glitches...
the elephone might seem a great steal for the first sight, i mean 4g lte, 2gb ram, 64-bit quad core and a 13mp camera.... but i would suggest a quick visit to their forums to know whats up as it has some unsmooth scrolling issues and no otg support plus e-compass glitches makes it an overall unreliable package, moto provides quality other chinese oems cant provide my friend.

ziad abdelhamid said:
the elephone might seem a great steal for the first sight, i mean 4g lte, 2gb ram, 64-bit quad core and a 13mp camera.... but i would suggest a quick visit to their forums to know whats up as it has some unsmooth scrolling issues and no otg support plus e-compass glitches makes it an overall unreliable package, moto provides quality other chinese oems cant provide my friend.
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yep, i've read on that, but the p6000 is one of the only chinese devices that have the stock google look. and i've read on how to fix the smooth scrolling issues. otg is not required, and the compass likewise. me mam just mainly uses phone to call, a lot of whatsapp with her friends (hence extra storage is needed) and watching videos. she doesn't browse much. and uses viber/skype/hangouts (those types of apps) nothing much else.

cubot x9!
salespalace said:
yep, i've read on that, but the p6000 is one of the only chinese devices that have the stock google look. and i've read on how to fix the smooth scrolling issues. otg is not required, and the compass likewise. me mam just mainly uses phone to call, a lot of whatsapp with her friends (hence extra storage is needed) and watching videos. she doesn't browse much. and uses viber/skype/hangouts (those types of apps) nothing much else.
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ok i get ur point, btw check out a phone called cubot x9... it's an iphone 6 clone coming in at 6.9 mm a 8mp camera (interpolated to 13mp) and an 5mp front camera (8mp interpolated). If u wouldn't mind giving up on 4g then thats a good solid phone. i wanted to get it hence my moto g got hard bricked but i decided to just wait for the fix.

ziad abdelhamid said:
ok i get ur point, btw check out a phone called cubot x9... it's an iphone 6 clone coming in at 6.9 mm a 8mp camera (interpolated to 13mp) and an 5mp front camera (8mp interpolated). If u wouldn't mind giving up on 4g then thats a good solid phone. i wanted to get it hence my moto g got hard bricked but i decided to just wait for the fix.
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nope don't like the cpu, not good enough in my opinion. I've decided to scrap those two, and go for either a used galaxy s4 then flash the google play edition or get the zte blade s6 brand new from amazon for 170. the zte has snapdragon 615 and lollipop. would it be better to go for that?

salespalace said:
nope don't like the cpu, not good enough in my opinion. I've decided to scrap those two, and go for either a used galaxy s4 then flash the google play edition or get the zte blade s6 brand new from amazon for 170. the zte has snapdragon 615 and lollipop. would it be better to go for that?
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ZTE Blade S6 is £160 here. There is no Gorilla Glass, but it looks like you need a case for this phone anyway since the actual house is fairly shoddy.

lost101 said:
ZTE Blade S6 is £160 here. There is no Gorilla Glass, but it looks like you need a case for this phone anyway since the actual house is fairly shoddy.
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decided to go for the s4, got it for £140 in good condition. will convert to google play edition. and then all good to go.

Possible new phone advice

I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers

razlack said:
I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
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I have the One (M7) for a year now and I have to say for a 2 year old phone, it really holds it's build quality. The speakers are amazing, the screen is crystal clear and it has Lollipop + Sense 6. We won't get Sense 7 officially but I'm 100% sure we will get a very functional port of Sense 7. The only downside is the camera. If your not too concerned about that then I think you should go for it. If not, I would suggest the Moto G (2014) or the Sony Xperia Z1/Z3 Compact, you can't go wrong with any of them

If you really liked you One S, you can go to something similar like the M8, or if you can wait for a couple of days, get your hands on the new HTC One M9.

One good reason to wait: wait for a real new ARM64 phone. The Moto G 4G (2014) is still a SnapDragon 400 with Krait cores I believe, so nothing really new from our One S.
I would wait for a cheap Motorola with ARM64 cores for less than 200$.

razlack said:
I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2734554&page=19
We already have a thread talk about this.
Moto G 4G is real a very bad choice, only a 4.5" 720P, S400, 1G ram, 8GB rom(though with microSD slot). Nothing real better and camera is a downgrade to 5MP.
I'm still using One S as a spare phone and upgraded to Sony Z1 Compact since last year. If budget is a major concern, you should get Z1c because it is cheap now should only a bit expensive than Moto G 4G but with a hardware much much better(4.3" 720P, S800, 2G ram, 16GB, microSD, LTE, 20MP camera, IPX67, 2300mah). Lollipop got delayed but will arrive on this phone probably around May/June.
But since now I've two small phones, I think it's too many. I'm going to sell out Z1c and upgrade again in April/May sometimes and give Galaxy S6 a try because the phone is quite small and slim this time to the 5.1" size.
If you have more money then get Sony Z3 Compact with bigger screen(4.6" but still same size with Z1c and One S), battery life and camera is even more better. If you can wait for like half year, Z4c will probably out on Sep.

I have used one S for 3 years too.
It's my first android phone, and I have a good time with it.
A lot of great developers have worked on this phone, they become a story!
I think Oneplus ONE is a great phone.
HTC M9 is great too!

3 years here also
i want to move to the new phone too. thinkng about new nexus or wait for the new LG

I'm going to buy a new phone in my summer vacation......Probably OnePlus
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Keep G Flex 2 H955 or buy Leeco Le 2 PRO?

Hi guys!
My g flex 2 got in a bootloop with 1006 error so I took it to warranty.
I've read on the G4 forums that they replaced or gave their money back cuz LG couldn't fix that error.
So I was wondering....should I buy Leeco Le 2 Pro if I get my money back or just stick with H955?
I know that the Cortex A72s on the Helio x20 are more powerful than SD810,but on the other hand Mali T880MP4 is much weaker than 430.
Also,I've got lucky and my g flex had a good display,without yellow spots,but it heated up like hell when gaming(or using gps) so I had to root and use the custom thermal config file.This issue has been allegedly fixed on 6.0.1(I didn't get to upgrade mine),but they said the same thing for 5.1.1...and now I don't know what to believe.
Besides that,I've seen that the IMX 135 on our g flex is very similar to the IMX 230 on leeco,even though the latter has 21 mpx.
I don't really care about the fingerprint sensor,it is nice to have but it seems more of a gimmick to me,the knock code can do the job as well.
Furthermore,there is 2gb of LPDDR4 on g flex,while leeco has 4gb of LPDDR3.Would that make a noticeable upgrade?(I'm not a real multitasker,I ask in terms of general speed)
So...what do you recommend me? Are the two A72 really worth it or should I keep my g flex?
Sorry for the long post
I'm looking forward to your replies.

@pungasul1
hi i got my self a xiaomi redmi note 3 pro (the s650 version) i just bought it not send yet
i'm giving up on the lg flex 2... no unlocked bootloader not custom roms...
and ugly ass screen p-oled it's very granular on grey spots u see alot of wierd points. it's very ugly.
and dont go for a mediatek.... it works for basic but its nothing special.
go for a xiaomi redmi note 3 pro
the snapdragon 650 is almost as good as the s810 that's in the flex2
redmi note 3 ahd 3gb ram and 32gb storage with sd card support
5.5" full hd. and a 4000mah battery and finger print scanner
the lg flex 2 is okay but 2gb ram and 16gb internal is not that great.
the full hd screen is not the best wierd poled. but people love the curved phone they are al curious. other then that. nothing special.
i still prefer tu use my lg g3 2gb 16gb with a good custom rom. i get more battery then on the flex2, it's my 2nd that just lays at home i use it for all the gta games. i got it for 168 euro new. trying to sell it now... for a bit more.
the xiaomi is 155euro on aliexpress. that's really a steal
im selling the flex 2 it's a fun phone but not that good it's left behind... just let the flex 2 go. let it go let it go

Good luck with warranty. Also MIUI is probably the heaviest android UI ever made, i had mi4c and it was struggling with 3GB RAM. (after boot with 0 apps i had like 500mb free RAM), pretty amazing.. :good:
Audio quality was so bad i sold it within a week, they are using cheap audio chips i had constant buzzing using headphones.
Also Xiaomi is locking bootloaders aswell, you want custom roms for Redmi 3? It's pretty much MIUI or CM.

Sell the LG, but don't buy that phone.

But what other options do I have in this price range??
The G4 is pricier than I can afford and frankly it doesn't impress me with that SD808.
I was thinking about that leeco because the camera is better than in our g flex,and also has manual mode,+4k hdr.
I had a very pleasant experience with my g flex(besides the overheating) but I'm afraid that it will be a dead device by next year(As seen on G Flex 1).Moreover,I don't see it holding it up too much with only 2gb of ram,be it DDR4.
Nexus 5x is not an option because of the lack of internal memory,weaker cpu and weaker camera.
So? Any other ideas? Pros?Cons?

Check Moto X Play, Xperia Z3, Huawei P8, Meizu MX5.

k3lcior said:
Good luck with warranty. Also MIUI is probably the heaviest android UI ever made, i had mi4c and it was struggling with 3GB RAM. (after boot with 0 apps i had like 500mb free RAM), pretty amazing.. :good:
Audio quality was so bad i sold it within a week, they are using cheap audio chips i had constant buzzing using headphones.
Also Xiaomi is locking bootloaders aswell, you want custom roms for Redmi 3? It's pretty much MIUI or CM.
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redmi note 3 has unlocked bootlaoder. but they lock it so aliexpress sellers don't put malware on it. you can unlock it your self in 5min (after asking a unlock code thing)
cm13 aosp aokp mokee rom, and what every
miui is not my favorite. used it a long time ago on my lg optimus 2x.
yeah you need to tweak it. it doesnt use the 3gb ram well. just put the background limit to standard and more thing
warranty? i dont know that word lol sure i bought the flex 2 new from amazon a 168euro but i dont give a fùck a bout warrenty really.
audio seems okay a bit mixed reviews soem say speaker and call volume is to low other see it's good.
dont use earphone use bluetooth for 60% of the time.
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pungasul1 said:
But what other options do I have in this price range??
The G4 is pricier than I can afford and frankly it doesn't impress me with that SD808.
I was thinking about that leeco because the camera is better than in our g flex,and also has manual mode,+4k hdr.
I had a very pleasant experience with my g flex(besides the overheating) but I'm afraid that it will be a dead device by next year(As seen on G Flex 1).Moreover,I don't see it holding it up too much with only 2gb of ram,be it DDR4.
Nexus 5x is not an option because of the lack of internal memory,weaker cpu and weaker camera.
So? Any other ideas? Pros?Cons?
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letv eco1 x800 is also for a cheap price 160euro
but has a s810 also but 4gb ram
but i prefer a phone with custom roms like the xiaomi. (that why i'm giving up on the lg flex2 never could use it as my general phone it's just my 2nd it's not good enough to be for every day use it find it's faster then my lg g3 but yeah the flex 2 with no custom roms killed it really for me)
i really can't recommand any mediatek phones, i dont hate them buy yeah there battery life isn't that great and no optimazation at all like 0... and not custom roms

Unfortunately,in my country(Romania) I can't buy x800 as it cannot be found anywhere.
So the only option remains le 2 pro.I just can't figure it out.
I saw that the the difference between the cameras(back) isn't big at all,but Leeco's UI is indeed much smoother.It is so fast.
To keep it short,the only thing that stops me to buy that phone is the gpu.Mali T880MP4 is so much weaker than 430 and I'm afraid not to affect general usage or gaming(if android is ever getting any nice game)

pungasul1 said:
Unfortunately,in my country(Romania) I can't buy x800 as it cannot be found anywhere.
So the only option remains le 2 pro.I just can't figure it out.
I saw that the the difference between the cameras(back) isn't big at all,but Leeco's UI is indeed much smoother.It is so fast.
To keep it short,the only thing that stops me to buy that phone is the gpu.Mali T880MP4 is so much weaker than 430 and I'm afraid not to affect general usage or gaming(if android is ever getting any nice game)
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you can't buy from aliexpress?
the letv pro 2 it's that great from what i read. camera is a really crap, seems great on paper but videos and picture arent that nice
on youtube some did a review. and both sayed camera isn't that good. after some days of usage.
i dont know i find mediatek bad. i mean i would buy it for parents or older people. like my mom has a doogee f5 with the mtk6753 and it's good for her internet facebook whatapp. but me it's not good enough.
tried a other mediatek also mtk6753 the umi touch. still hate it. and still didn't sell it can't seem to get rid of it. anyway. i love snapdragon and will keep phone with snapdragon (high end phones) cause low end i find mediatek great
anyway i wouldnt recommande keeping the flex 2. so yeah. no other options?

Not really... but if leeco's camera isn't that good then I see no reason to buy it.
And I can buy from aliexpress but I'm concerned about the warranty.Furthermore,it takes like 2 months for the phone to arrive.. so,it is a big NO!
I really like xperia z3+ but in my country it is very expensive..like 400$,compared to 275$ that i spent on the g flex..
Also,marshmallow seems great on the g flex 2 but again once it got updated to 5.1.1 many said that the overheating is gone...but it wasn't the case for me,and I updated from day one.
I am so undecided right now.
Moreover,I just can't wait for the prices to drop..or black friday as I don't have any other smartphone.Currently(until my phone comes out of warranty or I get my money back) I am using a samsung e1200 if you can believe it.

pungasul1 said:
Not really... but if leeco's camera isn't that good then I see no reason to buy it.
And I can buy from aliexpress but I'm concerned about the warranty.Furthermore,it takes like 2 months for the phone to arrive.. so,it is a big NO!
I really like xperia z3+ but in my country it is very expensive..like 400$,compared to 275$ that i spent on the g flex..
Also,marshmallow seems great on the g flex 2 but again once it got updated to 5.1.1 many said that the overheating is gone...but it wasn't the case for me,and I updated from day one.
I am so undecided right now.
Moreover,I just can't wait for the prices to drop..or black friday as I don't have any other smartphone.Currently(until my phone comes out of warranty or I get my money back) I am using a samsung e1200 if you can believe it.
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ahhahahahahaha samsung e1200 ahahh the drug dealer phone
yeah maybe wait for the sale maybe there will be a good phone.
i buy most of my **** of aliexpress. (chinees phones) anyway z3 is also a good phone. maybe htc one m8 or m9? no samsung they are to expensive. lg g4 i guess also bit to expensive.
try to look in phone stores or shops what they have for sale . maybe then try to look on the internet if you can find a cheaper deal

reggiexp said:
ahhahahahahaha samsung e1200 ahahh the drug dealer phone
yeah maybe wait for the sale maybe there will be a good phone.
i buy most of my **** of aliexpress. (chinees phones) anyway z3 is also a good phone. maybe htc one m8 or m9? no samsung they are to expensive. lg g4 i guess also bit to expensive.
try to look in phone stores or shops what they have for sale . maybe then try to look on the internet if you can find a cheaper deal
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))))) the drug dealer phone
Thats a good one))
I may get the opportunity to buy a g4 but i don't know if I should give my 810 for 808.
I know that at the moment there are very few gpu demanding games on android and I don't even play them(I played asphalt 8 for like 4 years but then I dropped it when I realized what a bunch of greedy bastards gameloft is made of).
I am surely going to enjoy g4's camera and even display(tough I might miss the oled) but you know...here comes that pride thing.
Now i've got 810 and adreno 430,my phone is a powerhouse,almighty and I feel so good about that.But with a 418..is just meh.. ok

@pungasul1
I feel you man. But thr flex 2 is abandoned... That's sucks.. The phone is good. But every other phones has custom roms and support.
Anyway. I don't know. Just try some phones in a store.

G4 is a good looking phone and the camera is a beast, a friend of mine has it and i analized the 2 phones pretty intensive. In my opinion the G4 display is better, but for a regular user the oled looks better, i was running antutu, it was testing the 3D and our girlfriends said the flex 2 display looks better... After we ran antutu 5 times, the flex 2 scores was the same as the G4, but installing and opening apps is fastter on flex 2. I don't care to much for updates so the G Flex 2 is ok for me.

Well,its sad but i wouldnt buy G Flex 2 again,but im happy with that phone currently. If i would like to change it,i would go for Mi5 or PRO 6,those are one heck of a phones. Even P9 isnt that bad tho. But if you care for updates,get 5X or 6P,updates are guaranteed to H2 2017,so you will get Android O for sure

xperia z5 vs lg v10

so i was offered lg v10 for my xperia z5, what do you guys think?

It's totally not worth of.
V10 suffered from motherboard issue from my observation (Some of my friends have this issue)
The only advantage of V10 comparing to Z5 is V10 got independent DACs, which make it sounds a little bit better.
However the user experience is not that great imo.(Sorry for my bad English)

But software support is better. And 1gb more ram and snapdragon that doesnt heat so much haha and its bigger. Those are some advantages. But i dont know much avout v10

I think z5 because lg always have chronic fails but i don't want to manipulate u.