Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
Looks very interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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Like it, but will it work with the phone in a case?
Thanks guys! So i take it you will be theoretically willing to get a phone sleeve for the s5? Yes it will work with your existing cases because i'm choosing stretchable materials for ampere, except maybe otterboxes, and the case also has to work with Qi wireless charging. I think lots of cases will espc since we're using a bigger coil.
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Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
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I use wireless charging and I own power banks. Powerbanks are mostly annoying because of keeping up with cords. But it would be nice to have a small flip put Micro USB and USB for charging and discharging to devices that don't have wireless charging (like my fiancees phone) . Also, I haven't bought a current qi bank because of the fact I can't throw my phone in my pocket and just let it charge. Your solution, depending on the price and size, seems to take care of those concerns for me. I would definitely consider buying it.
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YES that problem with portable Qi chargers is exactly what happened to me. I ended up bringing along a wire anyway so my phone could charge in the bag. Thanks for reminding me about that and for the support.
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
giorgoschr said:
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Yup, I personally have a Nexus 4 and was super-hyped to try wireless charging, only to find that most Qi products are absolutely rubbish beyond the novelty.
That's why I designed the sleeve to fix a lot of the heat dissipation, durability, looks, portability and alignment issues that plague Qi products. Please do leave your email on the website if you're interested! I'll contact you again just before launch in January.
make this a +1 for me also im IN .
If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Guys, thanks for the product validation thus far. Now, I need your feedback on the optional app. Here are the proposed features:
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine what features to incorporate in this app:
Display estimated battery life in hrs of phone and ampere
Control when charging starts
find your phone or ampere when one is missing
notifications to recharge at time or location
What other features would you like to see? I've recently posted in the S5 and Nexus 5 forums too, and I've been told not to dilute the product, which I agree with heartily. These are the features I've narrowed it down to. What other things do you think we need to bake in? It will probably be open to developers post-Kickstarter.
Feel free to check the product out over at http://kickstarter.novelsys.co.
Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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Not any case I'm afraid. It should fit most soft cases and slim hard cases. It's really on a case by case basis. (see where I did there?) by Kickstarter, our testing will be more rigorously completed and I'll be able to say exactly to what thickness case Ampere can tolerate.
1454 said:
I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
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I'm afraid you'll have to charge Ampere via a MicroUSB. There's less benefit to charging Ampere wirelessly than your phone though.
So what do I need to fit on my phone to use this wirelessly?
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For those that have wireless charger, Please post the following:
Base:
Receiver:
Charging rate(I used galaxy charging Current):
Does NFC work:
Orb base
Generic ebay reciever: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251278521078?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Im charging at 640
No NFC testing yet
I purchased this wireless charger from ebay. It fits pretty well with almost no bulge at all. You have to literally be feeling for a "warp" in the plastic to see it. Using the charging utility I also see 640. Something tells me that charging utility is not properly reporting the amps like it should be. The charger that I am using is available here. I can say that wireless charging is amazing to have and makes life a ton easier.
I just got the metrans as well, I noticed the same things.
the bulge is almost non-existant, I'm still waiting for the WiQiQi version that I ordered from their indiegogo campaign.
the contacts don't seem to hold on well I guess that's why the tape is there. also the marking on the receiver says 640mA so that's right.
I would be worried if it was outputting more than the rated amps.
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For those that have wireless charger, Please post the following:
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Charging rate(I used galaxy charging Current):
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Can we also add more info on NFC functionality? Would be helpful if that was specified...
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Can we also add more info on NFC functionality? Would be helpful if that was specified...
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great idea. I just added that to OP
Using Metrans receiver and generic charge pad.
I peeled of the exterior labels to make it thin add possible.
Visually the bump is barely visible, but it's very noticeable when attempting to use the phone while it's on a flat surface.
When charging back of the phone gets hot to the touch.
Ordered yijieneng (sp) receiver that promises no bump.
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Waiting on my WiQiQi too... I wish they gave an update
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Waiting on my WiQiQi too... I wish they gave an update
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WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47
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WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47
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Yah, but I already paid
Likwidflux said:
Yah, but I already paid
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Thats to bad.
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knarfl1 said:
WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47
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has anyone confirmed that the wiqiqi receivers are the same as the link you mentioned?
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has anyone confirmed that the wiqiqi receivers are the same as the link you mentioned?
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Deductive reasoning.
Wiqiqi was delayed. Released only after the Chinese Aftermarket receiver was released. They look identical. 1+1=2
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Deductive reasoning.
Wiqiqi was delayed. Released only after the Chinese Aftermarket receiver was released. They look identical. 1+1=2
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if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.
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if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.
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Mod it. I had a "thick" receiver which I pealed off all non essential parts and it is now thin. REALLY THIN. Will post pictures later.
galaxy808 said:
if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.
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This is true, it's just a rebadged of the chinese version, i'm sure if someone that coulds open the unit, the circuit is made by yijieneng, and there is no way yijieneng is owned by monsterwatts.
Got my Metrans transmitter yesterday...still waiting for my receiver for the S4. Tested it with my old S3 and worked great.
Amps?
What is the highest amperage, typical, that a wirless charging base will deliver?
Are we talking 650mA? Or 1A? Or 2A?
I think I saw a picture of someone selling a receiver (the part you put in the phone) that indicated a 1A rating. What about the base stations?
If you could get a receiver that could dump more than 1A.... would the base stations supply more than 1A?
Just looking for the thinnest, fastest charger. Know what I mean?
Thanks guys.
tool1075 said:
What is the highest amperage, typical, that a wirless charging base will deliver?
Are we talking 650mA? Or 1A? Or 2A?
I think I saw a picture of someone selling a receiver (the part you put in the phone) that indicated a 1A rating. What about the base stations?
If you could get a receiver that could dump more than 1A.... would the base stations supply more than 1A?
Just looking for the thinnest, fastest charger. Know what I mean?
Thanks guys.
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Most transmitter states the output upto 1A, and receiver also upto 1A, but I have a receiver which I get 1698mAh, so it's either the apps galaxy charging current is incorrct or the charging unit can output more current.
It has also been mentioned that the amount of current is limited by the phone, not the receiver.
For anyone who ordered the WiQiQi from Vivealive this is the receiver and pad that they send:
NFC works! (but not through the receiver, just the lower half of the battery that it doesn't cover)
Also pictured right is Note 2 NFC antenna extender I bought just in case
Hello,
I have been a great fan of palm and palm pre series in the past.
As a result, I have about 5 touchstone chargers everywhere and used in modded Galaxy Note 2 and Galaxy S 3 in the past.
I'm thinking if modding Nexus 5 to have Touchstone compatibility would be possible as well like they have done in Nexus 4.
(webosnation[dont]com/nexus-4-gains-touchstone-charging-thanks-clever-hacking)
From the pictures in ifixit.com, there are total 4 connection coming out from the back cover.
(d3nevzfk7ii3be[dont]cloudfront[dot]net/igi/SJQTUlA5iTNuxHlb[dot]huge)
I just don't know which of the two is the charging sides and which of the two would be + and -.
(d3nevzfk7ii3be[dot]cloudfront[dot]net/igi/OmM5ZNymVr4ODENF[dot]huge)
Any ideas guys?
I'm not a very techy person and I don't have the necessary tools to determine what is what.
Any advices would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I don't get it. Nexus 5 already has Qi charging capability which is wireless like the touchstone...
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atticusmas said:
I don't get it. Nexus 5 already has Qi charging capability which is wireless like the touchstone...
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Yes, Nexus 5 does have Qi compatibility, but it doesn't work with touchstone technology as they have different specification. (I've tried but it doesn't charge).
Also, Qi chargers are far more expensive then touchstone for some reason...
As I have already established wireless ecosystem with touchstone, I would like to keep using the touchstone rather than qi charger.
You can buy a qi charger on amazon for like $20. That's a lot easier than popping open the back and risking damage.
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You can buy a qi charger on amazon for like $20. That's a lot easier than popping open the back and risking damage.
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I do know that you can buy a qi charger on amazon for like $20 but touchstone chargers are about $10 on amazon now and I already have 5 of them around my work, home, car and my gf's place.
But, most of qi charger is flat, which I personally do not like.
The angle of the phone in a touchstone is quite useful for many reasons and I just prefer it to the flat surface of most qi standard charger.
I've already modded about 6 phones to use touchstone charger, so I know the risk and I assume those risk.
I just need help with which connection is for charging as there are four connections connected to the back cover of the Nexus 5 and I can't clearly pinpoint which two of the four is for charging and which one is plus and minus.
[s22[dot]postimg[dot]org/sfx2fm7n5/1384903574_B0jk_KHu_D_eaf3323[dot]jpg]
So, thank you for the Qi charger recommendations and I am aware of Qi technology, but I'm just curious about the +,- connection of the board.
thanks.
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I do know that you can buy a qi charger on amazon for like $20 but touchstone chargers are about $10 on amazon now and I already have 5 of them around my work, home, car and my gf's place.
But, most of qi charger is flat, which I personally do not like.
The angle of the phone in a touchstone is quite useful for many reasons and I just prefer it to the flat surface of most qi standard charger.
I've already modded about 6 phones to use touchstone charger, so I know the risk and I assume those risk.
I just need help with which connection is for charging as there are four connections connected to the back cover of the Nexus 5 and I can't clearly pinpoint which two of the four is for charging and which one is plus and minus.
[s22[dot]postimg[dot]org/sfx2fm7n5/1384903574_B0jk_KHu_D_eaf3323[dot]jpg]
So, thank you for the Qi charger recommendations and I am aware of Qi technology, but I'm just curious about the +,- connection of the board.
thanks.
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Why not get one of these? http://m.ebay.com/sch/i.html?kw=qi+orb+charger&itemId=&cnm=&cid=&sqp=&_trksid=
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Me too...
zoni5u said:
I do know that you can buy a qi charger on amazon for like $20 but touchstone chargers are about $10 on amazon now and I already have 5 of them around my work, home, car and my gf's place.
But, most of qi charger is flat, which I personally do not like.
The angle of the phone in a touchstone is quite useful for many reasons and I just prefer it to the flat surface of most qi standard charger.
I've already modded about 6 phones to use touchstone charger, so I know the risk and I assume those risk.
I just need help with which connection is for charging as there are four connections connected to the back cover of the Nexus 5 and I can't clearly pinpoint which two of the four is for charging and which one is plus and minus.
[s22[dot]postimg[dot]org/sfx2fm7n5/1384903574_B0jk_KHu_D_eaf3323[dot]jpg]
So, thank you for the Qi charger recommendations and I am aware of Qi technology, but I'm just curious about the +,- connection of the board.
thanks.
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I'm considering the same thing, as I also have a bunch of touchstones that I used with a galaxy nexus that I modded to use the tech. Would like to do the same with the N5.
If you've modded six different phones for touchstone then you're probably the most qualified to figure out how to mod the N5 as well, you should do the mod and then write a guide on it .
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If you've modded six different phones for touchstone then you're probably the most qualified to figure out how to mod the N5 as well, you should do the mod and then write a guide on it .
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I could do a mod previously as other people who understands the circuit board determined where to connect and such as I don't have the necessary tools to find out about it or the knowledge to fully understand the board.
I intent on doing a guide if I am successful.
Todini said:
I'm considering the same thing, as I also have a bunch of touchstones that I used with a galaxy nexus that I modded to use the tech. Would like to do the same with the N5.
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Thank you!
You finally understands what I'm going through.
I find touchstone far superior to qi standard to be honest and have never been able to dismiss it.
zoni5u said:
Thank you!
You finally understands what I'm going through.
I find touchstone far superior to qi standard to be honest and have never been able to dismiss it.
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For those of us unfamiliar with the tech, care to explain why you like it better?
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If you've modded six different phones for touchstone then you're probably the most qualified to figure out how to mod the N5 as well, you should do the mod and then write a guide on it .
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That would be GREAT!!:good:
just discovered today that the N5 has magnetic points. thus the touchstone charger holds it perfectly at an angle.
now all i want to do is either stuff a Qi charger into the touchstone dock, or what the OP wants and stuff the Touchstone coil into the phone.
I FULLY understand that this is an old thread but I was just thinking this today. The TouchStone holds the Nexus 5 perfectly. And I mean PERFECTLY. See my attached photos. The magnets seem to line up just right and the angle of the phone is great for doing stuff on phone without picking it up. If I had the know how, I would attempt to put a QI coil into a TouchStone. But I dont. If someone ever figured it out and posted directions (which I kind of doubt), I'd attempt it. I owned a Palm Pre with the TouchStone and loved it. I have two TouchStones in a box of random stuff, doing nothing. It would be awesome to be able to use them again. I know there is the Nexus 4 charger. But I heard that doesnt stick very well. I am tempted to try one out though.
P.S. This is mainly a conversational post and not really a high hopes post.
I was just about to buy one Touchstone for my N5, then I ran into this...
Forgive me for never using a wireless charger before, my initial thought on why Touchstone would not work with N5 was that somehow it has a very limited output amp for the phone to be charged, and in that sense, I was suspecting whether its coil is too small or the wire being too thin.
I don't think those cheap ebay Qi charger has anything different but a bigger coil. And obviously there are folks modding those flat-bed Qi chargers into magnets-equipped. So... if the coil was the issue, then you are essentially using touchstone's shell and just replacing a coil in there...
BUT, all those was based on my assumption of "coil matters". so ... anyways, not worth the hassle for me, I'm out. and In for a cheap pad.
Good luck!
I too would like to be informed of when if ever this happens. :good:
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I don't get it. Nexus 5 already has Qi charging capability which is wireless like the touchstone...
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Any one who has ever used a Touchstone understands! It's incredible!
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Does anyone know of or can recommend a nice wireless charging station for the S5? I'm glad the phone is dust/water proof, but messing with that micro USB cover my get old after a while. Plus, it could break off. I haven't used wireless charging since my Palm Pre days so I have no idea what's out.
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There is a nokia charger the dt-900 I believe is the model number. I just ordered from AT&Ts website for 25 bucks. After reading reviews it seems most people agree its the best option for the price.
cloudraker said:
There is a nokia charger the dt-900 I believe is the model number. I just ordered from AT&Ts website for 25 bucks. After reading reviews it seems most people agree its the best option for the price.
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I've got 2 of them that I use on my Note 3 with wireless charging cover (1 at home, 1 at work) - they're both great.
I bought one off Amazon for ~$40 and another for ~$25 on some daily deal site. Well worth the investment to not have to futz around with cables.
Only thing I see so far is that Samsung isn't offering the wireless charging back for the S5 yet; with the Note 3, it took them a month or two after launch to put them online for purchase and even then, they were backordered.
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I've got 2 of them that I use on my Note 3 with wireless charging cover (1 at home, 1 at work) - they're both great.
I bought one off Amazon for ~$40 and another for ~$25 on some daily deal site. Well worth the investment to not have to futz around with cables.
Only thing I see so far is that Samsung isn't offering the wireless charging back for the S5 yet; with the Note 3, it took them a month or two after launch to put them online for purchase and even then, they were backordered.
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I've got a close friend who works at the samsung experience shop within the local best buy and he had training last week on the s5 and its accessories. He said they are expecting the charging back in store within a week of launch. Good news is the first one that come in has my name on it so hopefully I dont have to contend with too much.
If you get a wireless charging back does it make the phone too thick for traditional 3rd party cases. What I want to do is get a wireless charging back plate and then put a case around the whole phone. Is that possible?
My sgs4 with wireless back cover don't feet any cases for galaxy
DimonVideo said:
My sgs4 with wireless back cover don't feet any cases for galaxy
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I had an S4 (and Note3) with wireless charging back covers and cases on both...SOME cases work.
For the S4, I was able to use Cruzerlite TPU cases with no problem. Any of the hard cases didn't work for me (Spigen) and I even tried the multi-piece cases (TPU + hard bumper) but the only ones that worked were Cruzerlite TPU.
In fact, I'm so sure that the S5 will work with Cruzerlite and a wireless charging back cover, I already bought a new case.
I'm gonna keep on the Best Buys for a wireless charging back and charger. Gonna get a white phone and black backplate. Mmmm sexy.
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SolarTrans said:
I'm gonna keep on the Best Buys for a wireless charging back and charger. Gonna get a white phone and black backplate. Mmmm sexy.
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A Galaxy Panda!
I wonder if wireless charging doesn't damage internal parts of the phone? Anyone got an explanation or experience here?
degast said:
I wonder if wireless charging doesn't damage internal parts of the phone? Anyone got an explanation or experience here?
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Why would you think it might damage your phone, can you care to explain.
kms108 said:
Why would you think it might damage your phone, can you care to explain.
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The magnetic field might screw up things? I don't know, I'm asking this.
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The magnetic field might screw up things? I don't know, I'm asking this.
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I'm only curious as samsung has the intention of providing this feature, i've been using wireless charging for a good 3+years with gs3, gs4, note 2 and now note 3, all without any problem.
kms108 said:
I'm only curious as samsung has the intention of providing this feature, i've been using wireless charging for a good 3+years with gs3, gs4, note 2 and now note 3, all without any problem.
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You can buy a wireless charging back from Samsung (doesn't come standard though).
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You can buy a wireless charging back from Samsung (doesn't come standard though).
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It's samsung's way of making more money, i prefer a receiver insert, it's thinner and i've been using them with all my phones.
I will be picking a few up in the next few days in china, need to check what the quality is like.
kms108 said:
It's samsung's way of making more money, i prefer a receiver insert, it's thinner and i've been using them with all my phones.
I will be picking a few up in the next few days in china, need to check what the quality is like.
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Really??? I got one for my S4 and it was awful - so thick that the case bulged out in the middle of the back...so much that the phone didn't lay flat on the table anymore.
Even though the Samsung battery cover is a little thicker overall, at least it's symmetrical and doesn't look home-made.
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I plan to buy a wireless charging chip and stand for my gs5. I leave a otterbox defenders case on my phone at all times because I dont want to lose her.. My question is that will the wireless charging work through the case? Or do i have to take the case off every day. And i have no idea which chip and stand i will buy yet. Here is a link to my case I use. thanks. http://www.otterbox.com/Defender-Series-for-Samsung-GALAXY-S5/sam2-galaxy-s5-set,default,pd.html
There are several threads detailing wireless charging, I suggest you look into one of them.
Short answer is the charging can work through the case. Long answer is your milage may vary.
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My question is that will the wireless charging work through the case? Or do i have to take the case off every day.
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Maybe. The only people that can really answer your question are those who own the same case as you and have tried it. Or maybe a well written review that tests charging through thick cases if you can find a review that does that.
I don't own an Otter box and you didn't give us any crucial details e.g. how thick the thing is? But my impression is that you own one of the larger, thicker cases. The current chargers work through thin cases but a lot of people with fortress type cases have reported problems. Not to mention that it depends on what brand of charger you have and several other things. I'd say it's iffy, actually I'll venture that it won't work with some charger brands. But if you find a better than average model you may be okay.
Advice? Either buy locally where you can presumably test whether it will charge through your case in the store. Or buy from a mail order vendor with a good return policy and test it first hand.
And just to complicate things.. you should know that there is a battle in progress between several incompatible charging technologies. Most of the current wireless chargers use the Qi system. And Qi really isn't designed to charge through thick cases. But there is an underdog called PMA aka Power Matters or Powermat that use a different technology. Resonant, rather than inductive charging. And it is said to work fine through thick cases.
So regardless of who ends up dominating the market, I'd try to buy a Powermat or PMA product if the price is similar. Keep in mind that you can't mix and match. The piece that goes inside your battery cover (or is built into the cover) has to match the charger. Both need to be Qi or both need to be PMA to work.
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Maybe. The only people that can really answer your question are those who own the same case as you and have tried it. Or maybe a well written review that tests charging through thick cases if you can find a review that does that.
I don't own an Otter box and you didn't give us any crucial details e.g. how thick the thing is? But my impression is that you own one of the larger, thicker cases. The current chargers work through thin cases but a lot of people with fortress type cases have reported problems. Not to mention that it depends on what brand of charger you have and several other things. I'd say it's iffy, actually I'll venture that it won't work with some charger brands. But if you find a better than average model you may be okay.
Advice? Either buy locally where you can presumably test whether it will charge through your case in the store. Or buy from a mail order vendor with a good return policy and test it first hand.
And just to complicate things.. you should know that there is a battle in progress between several incompatible charging technologies. Most of the current wireless chargers use the Qi system. And Qi really isn't designed to charge through thick cases. But there is an underdog called PMA aka Power Matters or Powermat that use a different technology. Resonant, rather than inductive charging. And it is said to work fine through thick cases.
So regardless of who ends up dominating the market, I'd try to buy a Powermat or PMA product if the price is similar. Keep in mind that you can't mix and match. The piece that goes inside your battery cover (or is built into the cover) has to match the charger. Both need to be Qi or both need to be PMA to work.
More info:Wireless charging standards
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply!
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Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
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Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).
Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
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Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.
Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?
shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.
TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
cnewsgrp said:
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA
Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA
skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
scottharris4 said:
Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).
I really starting to think to do what you have done