Wirless Charging Survey - Galaxy S 4 Accessories

For those that have wireless charger, Please post the following:
Base:
Receiver:
Charging rate(I used galaxy charging Current):
Does NFC work:

Orb base
Generic ebay reciever: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251278521078?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Im charging at 640
No NFC testing yet

I purchased this wireless charger from ebay. It fits pretty well with almost no bulge at all. You have to literally be feeling for a "warp" in the plastic to see it. Using the charging utility I also see 640. Something tells me that charging utility is not properly reporting the amps like it should be. The charger that I am using is available here. I can say that wireless charging is amazing to have and makes life a ton easier.

I just got the metrans as well, I noticed the same things.
the bulge is almost non-existant, I'm still waiting for the WiQiQi version that I ordered from their indiegogo campaign.
the contacts don't seem to hold on well I guess that's why the tape is there. also the marking on the receiver says 640mA so that's right.
I would be worried if it was outputting more than the rated amps.

nismo35 said:
For those that have wireless charger, Please post the following:
Base:
Receiver:
Charging rate(I used galaxy charging Current):
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Can we also add more info on NFC functionality? Would be helpful if that was specified...

bogdi1988 said:
Can we also add more info on NFC functionality? Would be helpful if that was specified...
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great idea. I just added that to OP

Using Metrans receiver and generic charge pad.
I peeled of the exterior labels to make it thin add possible.
Visually the bump is barely visible, but it's very noticeable when attempting to use the phone while it's on a flat surface.
When charging back of the phone gets hot to the touch.
Ordered yijieneng (sp) receiver that promises no bump.
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Waiting on my WiQiQi too... I wish they gave an update

Likwidflux said:
Waiting on my WiQiQi too... I wish they gave an update
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WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47

knarfl1 said:
WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47
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Yah, but I already paid

Likwidflux said:
Yah, but I already paid
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Thats to bad.
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knarfl1 said:
WiQiQi products are receivers and charger pads that you can get on eBay from Chinese sellers for cheap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256339&page=47
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has anyone confirmed that the wiqiqi receivers are the same as the link you mentioned?

galaxy808 said:
has anyone confirmed that the wiqiqi receivers are the same as the link you mentioned?
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Deductive reasoning.
Wiqiqi was delayed. Released only after the Chinese Aftermarket receiver was released. They look identical. 1+1=2

lambstone said:
Deductive reasoning.
Wiqiqi was delayed. Released only after the Chinese Aftermarket receiver was released. They look identical. 1+1=2
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if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.

galaxy808 said:
if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.
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Mod it. I had a "thick" receiver which I pealed off all non essential parts and it is now thin. REALLY THIN. Will post pictures later.

galaxy808 said:
if that was the case then im sure everyone including myself would not be too happy if it was just a generic Yienji (sp) receiver.
We'll see when I finally receive it.
anywho, I tried the metrans on my friend's S4 the bulge is hardly noticeable on the white. but the crappy part is that it would not fit all the way on the Spigen Slim Armor case.
That means it wont work on my Neo Hybrid. I'm gonna have to sell this receiver, anyone wants it hit me up lol, it's already in the states.
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This is true, it's just a rebadged of the chinese version, i'm sure if someone that coulds open the unit, the circuit is made by yijieneng, and there is no way yijieneng is owned by monsterwatts.

Got my Metrans transmitter yesterday...still waiting for my receiver for the S4. Tested it with my old S3 and worked great.

Amps?
What is the highest amperage, typical, that a wirless charging base will deliver?
Are we talking 650mA? Or 1A? Or 2A?
I think I saw a picture of someone selling a receiver (the part you put in the phone) that indicated a 1A rating. What about the base stations?
If you could get a receiver that could dump more than 1A.... would the base stations supply more than 1A?
Just looking for the thinnest, fastest charger. Know what I mean?
Thanks guys.

tool1075 said:
What is the highest amperage, typical, that a wirless charging base will deliver?
Are we talking 650mA? Or 1A? Or 2A?
I think I saw a picture of someone selling a receiver (the part you put in the phone) that indicated a 1A rating. What about the base stations?
If you could get a receiver that could dump more than 1A.... would the base stations supply more than 1A?
Just looking for the thinnest, fastest charger. Know what I mean?
Thanks guys.
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Most transmitter states the output upto 1A, and receiver also upto 1A, but I have a receiver which I get 1698mAh, so it's either the apps galaxy charging current is incorrct or the charging unit can output more current.
It has also been mentioned that the amount of current is limited by the phone, not the receiver.

For anyone who ordered the WiQiQi from Vivealive this is the receiver and pad that they send:
NFC works! (but not through the receiver, just the lower half of the battery that it doesn't cover)
Also pictured right is Note 2 NFC antenna extender I bought just in case

Related

Inductive Chargers for the Touchpad

Does anyone know if the Powermat or the Energizer charging platforms will work with the TP? I was in Target this past weekend and noticed that they were clearanced for 75% off retail price. The idea is nice but I don't want to waste $30 if it won't work.
No neither one will work with your TP. I don't think it would even recognise it was on the charger.
Whats wrong with the Touchstone Charger?
jsgraphicart said:
Whats wrong with the Touchstone Charger?
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Finding one for less than $40.
famewolf said:
Finding one for less than $40.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...ed/184-8603988-1906743?ie=UTF8&condition=used
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...ed/184-8603988-1906743?ie=UTF8&condition=used
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$29.99 + $5 shipping ($35) Used is worse than $36.99 + FS New at same url unless at the time you originally posted there were better prices on used.
Yea why would you not go with the touchstone
I really like my TouchStone. Not plugging in cables, and having a real "home" for my TouchPad when not in use is great. Plus it works with the HP case, something I also really like.
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I really like my TouchStone. Not plugging in cables, and having a real "home" for my TouchPad when not in use is great. Plus it works with the HP case, something I also really like.
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Which case are you talking about? I'd love to be able to charge without having to stretch out my case. I hardly use my touchstone because my folio is starting to get loose.
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you could turn it horizontally so gravity doesn't mess with it, or lay it down flat, then put touchpad on top
BlackElvis79 said:
Which case are you talking about? I'd love to be able to charge without having to stretch out my case.
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Pretty much any case as long as it's not too thick (and doesn't have metal between the tp and ts). I have a 'leather' case that works fine sitting on the ts and a tpu form fitting case that also works well. This one is now permanently on the tp and will fit into the leather case but the two together will not allow the tp to charge on the touchstone.
So it seems there are no "3rd party" chargers available?
I want a touchstone, but all the cheap ones are in the US and they don't ship to Australia
In Australia (or anywhere that is willing to ship here) pretty much charges double for the dock ($70?!), and that's not even counting shipping yet.

Proclip auto phone holder available in January.

Fyi: I just talked to Proclip on g+ and they say that the car mount will be available in mid January. I can't wait as I have had one for each of my phones and think they are the best.
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I also use ProClip with my prior devices. Glad they will be making it for the N4! Cool
Will this utilize Qi charging? That's really the only must have feature for me as far as a car dock goes.
mZimm said:
Will this utilize Qi charging? That's really the only must have feature for me as far as a car dock goes.
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Keep an eye for my post here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734
I've ordered one and should be receiving it soon, i hope.
It's being shipped from South Korea, but supposedly via EMS which is their 1 week service.. We'll see.
When I receive it I'll make a full write up with pics and vids for it.
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Will this utilize Qi charging? That's really the only must have feature for me as far as a car dock goes.
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THIS!!! There was a thread about some one making a car dock for the N4 using magnets on the dock, so the N4 will attach. If ProClip could make a Qi wireless charger integrated into a car dock using magnents.... I'LL PAY $100 !!!
The nexus 4 holders are now in stock at proclip and I just ordered mine.
Trying to decide which Nexus 4/ProClip holder to get... I am using the Diztronic TPU case (matte black, if it makes a diff). Should i get the "standard" Nexus 4 ProClip, or the one designed for "medium cases"?
Thanks
Depends if you want to bother removing it or not. If you get the standard you can have an integrated charger.
Shameless self-promotion: Message me if you'd be interested in the standard holder with charger, I'm looking to get rid of mine haha.
locutusx said:
Trying to decide which Nexus 4/ProClip holder to get... I am using the Diztronic TPU case (matte black, if it makes a diff). Should i get the "standard" Nexus 4 ProClip, or the one designed for "medium cases"?
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You might want to take a look at the Owl CarPad: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734
It's not perfect. I was going to go with the ProClip, as I always do, but this time I wanted something where I could leave my case/bumper on. The Owl CarPad excels at letting me keep my bumber or any other case on, and still charge the phone. Now, the charge is very low, but it still charges. I'm not happy with the results, but it still charges while playing music, very very easy to dock and remove. And all while keeping my case on.

SGP Neo Hybrid + Official Wireless Charging Back (Picture Heavy)

So as promised, I've received my official charging back and pad and have paired it up with my Neo Hybrid. It fits but there is a bulge as expected. Not sure if this is something I can live with (I'll let you know if a couple of days!)
The charger works well, the charging pad is nice and light and does the job well.
The charging back adds a bit of extra weight to the phone. The neo hybrid already adds a lot of weight and bulk, so in conjuction with the wireless back, it makes the phone feel quite heavy, but not uncomfortably heavy. Whilst charging, it does not get hot. I don't know what it does at 100% like the cheap chinese chargers, I'll get back to you on this one soon...
I also bought one of those cheap Chinese wireless adaptors, and it works well with the Sammy charging pad.
Thanks for the pictures! Does the Chinese only adapter work well with the default back or are there connection issues with it? Does it also charge well? I would prefer the Samsung back, but also don't like additional weight.
th3taman said:
Thanks for the pictures! Does the Chinese only adapter work well with the default back or are there connection issues with it? Does it also charge well? I would prefer the Samsung back, but also don't like additional weight.
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Hi
It's not as accurate as the Samsung one. You have to position it perfectly.
If Samsung was 10/10 for accuracy, I'd give the Chinese one 7.5/10, seems to charge fine
assuming you are using the original charging cover, so what does it do after it's fully charged at 100%? does it charge again after it drops to 99%? this is one of the problems with 3rd party receivers and charge pads, it would wake the phone up again and charge over the night-which would be really annoying.
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assuming you are using the original charging cover, so what does it do after it's fully charged at 100%? does it charge again after it drops to 99%? this is one of the problems with 3rd party receivers and charge pads, it would wake the phone up again and charge over the night-which would be really annoying.
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I'll let you know mate....currently charging
winwiz said:
So as promised, I've received my official charging back and pad and have paired it up with my Neo Hybrid. It fits but there is a bulge as expected. Not sure if this is something I can live with (I'll let you know if a couple of days!)
The charger works well, the charging pad is nice and light and does the job well.
The charging back adds a bit of extra weight to the phone. The neo hybrid already adds a lot of weight and bulk, so in conjuction with the wireless back, it makes the phone feel quite heavy, but not uncomfortably heavy. Whilst charging, it does not get hot. I don't know what it does at 100% like the cheap chinese chargers, I'll get back to you on this one soon...
I also bought one of those cheap Chinese wireless adaptors, and it works well with the Sammy charging pad.
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Is this the "cheap Chinese wireless adaptor" you bought?
http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Wire...1481415&sr=1-5&keywords=Qi++Samsung+Galaxy+S4
If so, how does it fit in well with the standard back cover and closes completely?
xuser said:
Is this the "cheap Chinese wireless adaptor" you bought?
http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Wire...1481415&sr=1-5&keywords=Qi++Samsung+Galaxy+S4
If so, how does it fit in well with the standard back cover and closes completely?
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this one mate
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/POWERQI-Q...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item4ac510c260
fits fine, no issues. there is however a slight bulge in the middle
MMakoto said:
assuming you are using the original charging cover, so what does it do after it's fully charged at 100%? does it charge again after it drops to 99%? this is one of the problems with 3rd party receivers and charge pads, it would wake the phone up again and charge over the night-which would be really annoying.
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went to 100% no issues, didnt behave any different to a plug in charger. so the issue looks to be with the non original pads/receivers
Looks good. How bad is the bulge using the samsung qi backplate with the neo hybrid? also how bad is the speaker blocked? Thanks!
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Looks good. How bad is the bulge using the samsung qi backplate with the neo hybrid? also how bad is the speaker blocked? Thanks!
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speaker sounds fine, but the bulge is really beginning to irritate me to be honest.....
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went to 100% no issues, didnt behave any different to a plug in charger. so the issue looks to be with the non original pads/receivers
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Do you think you're gonna test the same using the 3rd party receiver with the original charging pad? i'm thinking of going this route, but not sure if that problem would exist. thanks in advance.
MMakoto said:
Do you think you're gonna test the same using the 3rd party receiver with the original charging pad? i'm thinking of going this route, but not sure if that problem would exist. thanks in advance.
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I have the official transmitter coming in a few days so will try it with 3rd party RX and see how they get on.
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Do you think you're gonna test the same using the 3rd party receiver with the original charging pad? i'm thinking of going this route, but not sure if that problem would exist. thanks in advance.
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sure mate
I'll test it for you tonight
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speaker sounds fine, but the bulge is really beginning to irritate me to be honest.....
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Can you describe the bulge? Is it even or just in an area? I know the charging recievers from china give a slight bulge in the middle but I assume with the s charger it's just a bulge in general?
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Can you describe the bulge? Is it even or just in an area? I know the charging recievers from china give a slight bulge in the middle but I assume with the s charger it's just a bulge in general?
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yeah general equal bulge from the middle, and a sharp tapering off on the edges. makes it a but uncomfortable to hold. Needless to say, I'm looking for a new case now.
Ordered a bumper case to see how that goes
winwiz said:
yeah general equal bulge from the middle, and a sharp tapering off on the edges. makes it a but uncomfortable to hold. Needless to say, I'm looking for a new case now.
Ordered a bumper case to see how that goes
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The Neo Hybrid looks awesome so i'm looking to get it but also want qi charging >.< lol still on the fence on getting the official or Chinese one. Also want NFC to work lol.
winwiz said:
yeah general equal bulge from the middle, and a sharp tapering off on the edges. makes it a but uncomfortable to hold. Needless to say, I'm looking for a new case now.
Ordered a bumper case to see how that goes
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I understand that the OEM wireless cover is not really meant for the Spigen Neo Hybrid so that there will definitely be a bulge. My question is on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being horrendous, and 10 being a perfect fit similar to the regular back cover), how would you rate the bulge with the OEM wireless cover and the Neo Hybrid? Assuming it is at least a 6, I am definitely looking to do this set up with either my Neo Hybrid or my Slim Armor.
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I understand that the OEM wireless cover is not really meant for the Spigen Neo Hybrid so that there will definitely be a bulge. My question is on a scale of 1-10 (with 1 being horrendous, and 10 being a perfect fit similar to the regular back cover), how would you rate the bulge with the OEM wireless cover and the Neo Hybrid? Assuming it is at least a 6, I am definitely looking to do this set up with either my Neo Hybrid or my Slim Armor.
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the bulge for me is significant. I'm erring towards a 5/6
Thanks!
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Wireless Charging Phone Sleeve

Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
Looks very interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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Like it, but will it work with the phone in a case?
Thanks guys! So i take it you will be theoretically willing to get a phone sleeve for the s5? Yes it will work with your existing cases because i'm choosing stretchable materials for ampere, except maybe otterboxes, and the case also has to work with Qi wireless charging. I think lots of cases will espc since we're using a bigger coil.
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Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
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I use wireless charging and I own power banks. Powerbanks are mostly annoying because of keeping up with cords. But it would be nice to have a small flip put Micro USB and USB for charging and discharging to devices that don't have wireless charging (like my fiancees phone) . Also, I haven't bought a current qi bank because of the fact I can't throw my phone in my pocket and just let it charge. Your solution, depending on the price and size, seems to take care of those concerns for me. I would definitely consider buying it.
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YES that problem with portable Qi chargers is exactly what happened to me. I ended up bringing along a wire anyway so my phone could charge in the bag. Thanks for reminding me about that and for the support.
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Yup, I personally have a Nexus 4 and was super-hyped to try wireless charging, only to find that most Qi products are absolutely rubbish beyond the novelty.
That's why I designed the sleeve to fix a lot of the heat dissipation, durability, looks, portability and alignment issues that plague Qi products. Please do leave your email on the website if you're interested! I'll contact you again just before launch in January.
make this a +1 for me also im IN .
If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Guys, thanks for the product validation thus far. Now, I need your feedback on the optional app. Here are the proposed features:
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine what features to incorporate in this app:
Display estimated battery life in hrs of phone and ampere
Control when charging starts
find your phone or ampere when one is missing
notifications to recharge at time or location
What other features would you like to see? I've recently posted in the S5 and Nexus 5 forums too, and I've been told not to dilute the product, which I agree with heartily. These are the features I've narrowed it down to. What other things do you think we need to bake in? It will probably be open to developers post-Kickstarter.
Feel free to check the product out over at http://kickstarter.novelsys.co.
Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
jdagreek said:
I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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Not any case I'm afraid. It should fit most soft cases and slim hard cases. It's really on a case by case basis. (see where I did there?) by Kickstarter, our testing will be more rigorously completed and I'll be able to say exactly to what thickness case Ampere can tolerate.
1454 said:
I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
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I'm afraid you'll have to charge Ampere via a MicroUSB. There's less benefit to charging Ampere wirelessly than your phone though.
So what do I need to fit on my phone to use this wirelessly?

Qi+NFC+AT&T G3, no hardware hacking.

Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
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Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).
Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
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Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.
Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?
shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
TonyStark said:
Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
cnewsgrp said:
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA
Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA
skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).
I really starting to think to do what you have done

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