Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
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Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).
Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
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Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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iazybandit said:
Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.
Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?
shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA
Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA
skeevydude said:
We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).
I really starting to think to do what you have done
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I ordered the Samsung back with the built in Qi charger. Before the vendor let me order it, they emailed me the following:
Please note that using this back cover will slightly change the dimension/ size of the phone and any case you may have on your Note 4 will no longer fit the device. Unfortunately, we do not have cases that are compatible with this battery charging back.
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Does any know if there are any case(s) available that actually fit with the OEM Samsung Qi charger back?
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Does any know if there are any case(s) available that actually fit with the OEM Samsung Qi charger back?
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You might be able to stretch some TPU cases and force them on, but at this time there aren't any cases made to specifically fit with the OEM wireless charging back.
It took several months for the Galaxy S5 to get any cases specifically made for the wireless charging back, so I'm not anticipating one for the Note 4 in the near future. I'd love to see a manufacturer step up though. Diztronic did with the S5, but they have yet to even release a standard case for the Note 4.
I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
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I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
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Interested in getting this too! Looks easy to install. Let us know how it goes. How long has it taken to ship? Thanks!
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Interested in getting this too! Looks easy to install. Let us know how it goes. How long has it taken to ship? Thanks!
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Ordered October 31. Estimated arrival was 11/28 to 12/15, but I'm expecting it will be here Monday.
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I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
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My friends have similar receiver stickers in their Samsung phones (Note 3, 2x S5s) and the sticker interferes with NFC, they were unable to use Android Beam or Softcard/Google Wallet until they removed the sticker (those features worked intermittently).
For this reason, I'll personally wait until a case that fits the official Samsung wireless charging cover comes out.
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My friends have similar receiver stickers in their Samsung phones (Note 3, 2x S5s) and the sticker interferes with NFC, they were unable to use Android Beam or Softcard/Google Wallet until they removed the sticker (those features worked intermittently).
For this reason, I'll personally wait until a case that fits the official Samsung wireless charging cover comes out.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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I wonder if it's thin enough to not bulge the back cover. Bulged covers look so ugly.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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Amazon now has this sticker in stock with Prime shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had it shipped overnight ($3.99 with Prime) and got it this morning. Here's what I found:
1. It's not 0.6mm, but 1.5mm thick (I measured it with a caliper). It bulges the battery cover in an ugly way. My Spigen case does not fit properly anymore.
2. It charges much more slowly than the official Samsung wireless charging back, which I also have (tested with a Tylt Vu desktop charger).
3. It makes battery swapping impossible as it has to be attached to the battery.
4. No "NFC support." Even though it has five pins, only two of them (second from top and the upper single one) are actually connected to the circuit, I checked with a multimeter. There is only a single coil/antenna, so there is definitely no "NFC support" of any kind, unlike the official Samsung cover which actually has two coils/antennas - one for charging and a second for NFC, since the original NFC antenna in the battery is blocked by the Qi antenna.
Sending it back, it's crap.
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I got the sticker this morning. Here's what I found:
1. It's not 0.6mm, but 1.5mm thick (I measured it with a caliper). It bulges the battery cover in an ugly way. My Spigen case does not fit properly anymore.
2. It charges much more slowly than the official Samsung wireless charging back, which I also have.
3. It makes battery swapping impossible as it has to be attached to the battery.
4. No "NFC support." Even though it has five pins, only two of them (second from top and the upper single one) are actually connected to the circuit, I checked with a multimeter. There is only a single coil/antenna, so there is definitely no "NFC support" of any kind, unlike the official Samsung cover which actually has two coils/antennas - one for charging and a second for NFC, since the original NFC antenna in the battery is blocked by the Qi antenna.
Sending it back, it's crap.
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I'm confused. Yesterday you posted you were going to wait for a case to fit the official charging back; today you are posting a review of a sticker that took over 2 weeks to arrive from China.
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I'm confused. Yesterday you posted you were going to wait for a case to fit the official charging back; today you are posting a review of a sticker that took over 2 weeks to arrive from China.
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Amazon now has it in stock with Prime shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OKHXI9E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had it shipped overnight ($3.99 with Prime) and got it this morning. Updated my previous post to reflect this.
Mine arrived from China today. Seems like a different item than you got. Very little if any bulge. Case fits fine. NFC working fine. Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. No problem connecting to my iAnker charging pads. Too soon to comment on charging speed. It doesn't exactly match the picture, doesn't have the indicated contacts for sview sleep function.
I'll get a picture and try to find my calipers in a bit.
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Mine arrived from China today. Seems like a different item than you got. Very little if any bulge. Case fits fine. NFC working fine. Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. No problem connecting to my iAnker charging pads. Too soon to comment on charging speed. It doesn't exactly match the picture, doesn't have the indicated contacts for sview sleep function.
I'll get a picture and try to find my calipers in a bit.
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Mine looked identical to the Amazon picture.
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You might be able to stretch some TPU cases and force them on, but at this time there aren't any cases made to specifically fit with the OEM wireless charging back.
It took several months for the Galaxy S5 to get any cases specifically made for the wireless charging back, so I'm not anticipating one for the Note 4 in the near future. I'd love to see a manufacturer step up though. Diztronic did with the S5, but they have yet to even release a standard case for the Note 4.
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I just received the OEM Samsung Qi back and indeed none of the case I tried seem to fit correctly just as I was forewarned. The Samsung OEM cover will fit, but the buttons are a bit off so it is too annoying to use. I'll just have to keep my eye out for a Qi compatible cover.
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Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. .
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I think the relative positions of the receiver and the coil have something to do with heat issues. I also have a sticker from China. I noticed that charging the phone on Tylt Vu keeps the battery hot all night (this can't be good for longevity). But, if I set the phone upside down, it only heats up during actual charging. Itian charger also stops heating after the phone reaches 100.
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I just received the OEM Samsung Qi back and indeed none of the case I tried seem to fit correctly just as I was forewarned. The Samsung OEM cover will fit, but the buttons are a bit off so it is too annoying to use. I'll just have to keep my eye out for a Qi compatible cover.
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i have the same cover and the iBlason Armorbox case fits it perfectly with the cover mounted and also charges the phone fine. only problem is fingerprint reader is disabled with the cover on.
Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
Looks very interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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Like it, but will it work with the phone in a case?
Thanks guys! So i take it you will be theoretically willing to get a phone sleeve for the s5? Yes it will work with your existing cases because i'm choosing stretchable materials for ampere, except maybe otterboxes, and the case also has to work with Qi wireless charging. I think lots of cases will espc since we're using a bigger coil.
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Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
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I use wireless charging and I own power banks. Powerbanks are mostly annoying because of keeping up with cords. But it would be nice to have a small flip put Micro USB and USB for charging and discharging to devices that don't have wireless charging (like my fiancees phone) . Also, I haven't bought a current qi bank because of the fact I can't throw my phone in my pocket and just let it charge. Your solution, depending on the price and size, seems to take care of those concerns for me. I would definitely consider buying it.
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YES that problem with portable Qi chargers is exactly what happened to me. I ended up bringing along a wire anyway so my phone could charge in the bag. Thanks for reminding me about that and for the support.
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Yup, I personally have a Nexus 4 and was super-hyped to try wireless charging, only to find that most Qi products are absolutely rubbish beyond the novelty.
That's why I designed the sleeve to fix a lot of the heat dissipation, durability, looks, portability and alignment issues that plague Qi products. Please do leave your email on the website if you're interested! I'll contact you again just before launch in January.
make this a +1 for me also im IN .
If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Guys, thanks for the product validation thus far. Now, I need your feedback on the optional app. Here are the proposed features:
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine what features to incorporate in this app:
Display estimated battery life in hrs of phone and ampere
Control when charging starts
find your phone or ampere when one is missing
notifications to recharge at time or location
What other features would you like to see? I've recently posted in the S5 and Nexus 5 forums too, and I've been told not to dilute the product, which I agree with heartily. These are the features I've narrowed it down to. What other things do you think we need to bake in? It will probably be open to developers post-Kickstarter.
Feel free to check the product out over at http://kickstarter.novelsys.co.
Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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Not any case I'm afraid. It should fit most soft cases and slim hard cases. It's really on a case by case basis. (see where I did there?) by Kickstarter, our testing will be more rigorously completed and I'll be able to say exactly to what thickness case Ampere can tolerate.
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I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
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I'm afraid you'll have to charge Ampere via a MicroUSB. There's less benefit to charging Ampere wirelessly than your phone though.
So what do I need to fit on my phone to use this wirelessly?
My back glass broke about 2 weeks after getting my S6 so I ordered a new one from Amazon. It's metal so I'm not certain it will work with wireless charging but aesthetically it always to be far superior. The metal is more durable and it doesn't pick up fingerprints as easily as the original
Do you have a link to this one?
it looks good, is it hard to install? have u tried the Wireless Charger yet?
http://www.amazon.com/BB-Mall-Samsu...ds=metal++battery+cover+for+samsung+galaxy+s6 maybe it is this one.
I have the same question ... how easy is it to replace? what are the tools needed?
the fonts look a little weird though
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I have the same question ... how easy is it to replace? what are the tools needed?
the fonts look a little weird though
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Sorry for the slow response, never got an email. The replacement back linked in FireOnHigh's post is where I got mine. They come with the adhesive already in place. You just need a deck of cards, a heat gun and a guitar pick. I was really liberal when I applied the heat to the back and the phone was not damaged. It's similar to changing the front glass in other devices. Total time was about 15 minutes. I have not yet tried to wireless charge; as soon as I do, I will post my results.
Replied to subscribe. Interested in this as well
Any news on whether this affects wireless charging yet
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Any news on whether this affects wireless charging yet
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If it is actually metal, dont expect NFC or wireless charging to work
It might also affect wifi and mobile signal strength.
Reviews on Amazon say the wireless charging does not work.
Well that sucks. Oh well. Not getting it then unless it works. Need my wireless charging
Signal doesn't appear to be effected by the cover. Still haven't used wireless charging or NFC. I don't see myself ever using wireless charging because I love the convienece (speed) of the fast charger.
Got in the LG OEM wireless charging back today for the V10. It is of very nice quality and maybe only a hair thicker then stock back, very hard to tell. I don't think there will be any problem fitting into standard cases.
I got it for the everyday low price of $79.00 plus shipping from Amazon.
Only has LG and not V10 on the back corner.
I've add a few pictures showing it side by side with the stock back.
Very cool but also a bit pricey but it's LG oem so your gonna pay a bit more bought a cheap back cover from china with wireless charging that works well only paid about 15 bucks it has a leather back and the fit isn't quite as good as the stock back if you have the money I would definitely get the one you picked
I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
Thanks to the OP's for the information and photo's.
It isn't going to be much different in the quality of the charging, the only different is the built quality, the QI and PMA circuit (PCB) is in the phone, the back cover only contains the coil to complete the wireless charging part.
The current coil use for both the OEM and third party is a flexi coil, isn't the best, it's used because it's thin, I'm going to mod mine when I get the V10 within the week, and put a proper copper strand wire coil, has better detection, less heat and less transmission loss.
I have a few types of coils made especially for wireless charging, and will post back.
you can just buy the Qi receiver sticker for less than $10 and apply yourself.. why would anyone buy this for that price?
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I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
clockcycle said:
That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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You are correct to a certain point, both OEM and third party uses a flexi coil with a flexi magnet, the quality of these also determine the detection and aligment.
felloffthetruck said:
Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
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There on eBay just search connection station on eBay around $15 four different colors there slightly thicker than the stock back you can tell the difference by the volume buttons but not too bad a fit though
I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.
timbawolf2k said:
I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.
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There are no special settings that I'm aware of.
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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I liked the wireless charging on my nexus 6 so when i bought the V10 i had to get wireless charging working on it so i bought the leather qi/nfc back for $15 of eBay (connection station) and it works very well with the Anker qi little disc charger i bought off Amazon but the leather back doesn't fit exactly as good as the stock back there's that little gap by the volume buttons you described but worth it to have the wireless charging working
Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
QMaverick said:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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QMaverick said:
Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
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Just wait for Best Buy to have it for $59.00 I'm sure this will be the retail price once it hit's the shelves.
clockcycle said:
That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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GSM and the fact that it literally takes twice as long with the Yootech. So a watch is what I'm using to determine the speed. It can and does make sense as it depends on the conduction of the materials used. If yootech uses different metal composition in the coil then it gives off more heat energy and doesn't charge as fast. Welcome to physics.
felloffthetruck said:
Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
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That looks pretty nice. Check out my cart here, you can see all my goodies. I'm going with an off brand Spigen clone because I like to use my phone wile it's on the dock and this one looks more stable for that.
I am planning to go with the Yootech back cover. Hopefully it's wont cause the phone to get warm like some others seem to be saying...
For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
Panzer500 said:
For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
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Bought a little Anker qi disc charger of Amazon for $12 it claims that it regulates the heat and that it doesn't waste energy overcharging i just put my phone on it when i go to bed wake up and it's at 100% and my phones not hot the charger has 2 led's blue when it's charging and red and blue when the phones charged
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
THE TEAM!!!
ThisIsCheez said:
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
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I nominate you to take one for the team. Let us know!
Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
dr_w said:
Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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So i bought the new Wisdom sticker off Amazon. I'll say this--i used a hair dryer as the instruction indicates--and peeled the original NFC only sticker off (or so i thought) and applied the new wisdom. It would register like it was charging but not actually charge as dr_w indicates above.
HOWEVER...frustrated i looked at a couple videos and noticed that the battery doors with the sticker fully removed didn't look like mine. With an exacto knife i picked at the remaining black area only to find there was still copper wire underneath. In effect the original NFC sticker had multiple layers and i'd only peeled off the top. Getting ALL of it up was a challenge...like a real challenge...it did not peel off i had to scrape with a knife for an extended period of time.
At the end of the day though once i had the original sticker all the way off i reapplied the New Wisdom Sticker (which surprisingly survived multiple attempts at reapplying without ill effect). Then setting it on my Spigen charger stand and running the Ampere app i was amazed at how well it was charging. It actually was over 1000ma at one point and after finding it's range (it starts low and builds) it averaged at about 800ma. That was decent enough to charge my phone pretty quick. For reference fast charging is like 1350--1500ma or so. In comparison the Monroy wireless back i bought from Amazon that already had a sticker applied (presumably NOT New Wisdom) typically does maybe 350-500ma.
So the bottom line is it was WAY more of a pain than i anticipated but now i'm stoked and actually rather impressed with the performance.
LEt us know if its consistent. I've had a very similar experience before it began discharging at a rapid rate. Thanks for the post, I'll keep checking back.
Originally had a cheap sticker off eBay that lasted several months, about 3,then the chip in the phone caved out. Got the newisdom the other day and got a Tylt charger to go with 2 Samsung fast chargers and no issues so far. The constant lighting up the phone when it's charged is annoying and the g4 tweaksbox doesn't seem to fix it.
I'm using the OEM LG wireless back and it's quite nice. Feels exactly like the original and fits very flush, no problems with wireless detection on my TYLT charger. I'm actually surprised at how little the back weighs as my understanding is the copper coils should add some noticeable weight but in this case it doesn't. Maybe not that much copper in these OEM backs?
Just ordered an OEM wireless charging back for my V10 (a seller on Amazon has it for $29.99 atm though no prime shipping with the fastest option being expedited shipping) and due to the price, I'd imagine it already being sold out by the time this post is read. I didn't want to get the third party stickers as I want to keep my current back and the third party plastic backs are pretty horrible in terms of feel and fit.
Anyways, what do you guys recommend for a good wireless charging pad? The official Samsung pads look interesting enough as is and I've seen it work with every device with Qi built in or using one of those plug-in Qi pads you place inside a case before the phone though I'm gonna have to wait til my next paycheck to get a pad: already spend a good chunk of cash on an MSI RX 480 and only bought this back due to the steal of a price at $29.99, $36 with expedited shipping. It was that or go with prime and spend $60 on a back
Finally received my OEM wireless back. As expected, the battery door feels exactly like the original back albeit curves near the button cutout due to the extra elevation it adds. Also makes cases a tighter fit if you're concerned about compatibility. Works on my Yootech wireless charger as well as a friend's Samsung wireless charger and Tylt Vu 3, the last two having the best range in terms of surface since the Yootech seems to only have one coil. As for charging, going from 0-100% took about 2-3 hours and the phone got pretty warm too though just a smidgen cooler than it gets when quick charging via cable. The packaging DOES have the description for what would've been a wireless charging variant of the Quickview cover which would attach as a battery door too but I guess that didn't work after all the hullabaloo about the faulty Qi chip. Sucks that the LG logo simply takes place of the rather sexy V10 logo
Either way, I'd recommend getting an OEM back when you can though might wanna wait. Some listing still sell it for $60 a pop and even $100