Please help with wireless charging! - Galaxy S 5 Accessories

I plan to buy a wireless charging chip and stand for my gs5. I leave a otterbox defenders case on my phone at all times because I dont want to lose her.. My question is that will the wireless charging work through the case? Or do i have to take the case off every day. And i have no idea which chip and stand i will buy yet. Here is a link to my case I use. thanks. http://www.otterbox.com/Defender-Series-for-Samsung-GALAXY-S5/sam2-galaxy-s5-set,default,pd.html

There are several threads detailing wireless charging, I suggest you look into one of them.
Short answer is the charging can work through the case. Long answer is your milage may vary.

jeffcojake said:
My question is that will the wireless charging work through the case? Or do i have to take the case off every day.
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Maybe. The only people that can really answer your question are those who own the same case as you and have tried it. Or maybe a well written review that tests charging through thick cases if you can find a review that does that.
I don't own an Otter box and you didn't give us any crucial details e.g. how thick the thing is? But my impression is that you own one of the larger, thicker cases. The current chargers work through thin cases but a lot of people with fortress type cases have reported problems. Not to mention that it depends on what brand of charger you have and several other things. I'd say it's iffy, actually I'll venture that it won't work with some charger brands. But if you find a better than average model you may be okay.
Advice? Either buy locally where you can presumably test whether it will charge through your case in the store. Or buy from a mail order vendor with a good return policy and test it first hand.
And just to complicate things.. you should know that there is a battle in progress between several incompatible charging technologies. Most of the current wireless chargers use the Qi system. And Qi really isn't designed to charge through thick cases. But there is an underdog called PMA aka Power Matters or Powermat that use a different technology. Resonant, rather than inductive charging. And it is said to work fine through thick cases.
So regardless of who ends up dominating the market, I'd try to buy a Powermat or PMA product if the price is similar. Keep in mind that you can't mix and match. The piece that goes inside your battery cover (or is built into the cover) has to match the charger. Both need to be Qi or both need to be PMA to work.
More info:Wireless charging standards
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fffft said:
Maybe. The only people that can really answer your question are those who own the same case as you and have tried it. Or maybe a well written review that tests charging through thick cases if you can find a review that does that.
I don't own an Otter box and you didn't give us any crucial details e.g. how thick the thing is? But my impression is that you own one of the larger, thicker cases. The current chargers work through thin cases but a lot of people with fortress type cases have reported problems. Not to mention that it depends on what brand of charger you have and several other things. I'd say it's iffy, actually I'll venture that it won't work with some charger brands. But if you find a better than average model you may be okay.
Advice? Either buy locally where you can presumably test whether it will charge through your case in the store. Or buy from a mail order vendor with a good return policy and test it first hand.
And just to complicate things.. you should know that there is a battle in progress between several incompatible charging technologies. Most of the current wireless chargers use the Qi system. And Qi really isn't designed to charge through thick cases. But there is an underdog called PMA aka Power Matters or Powermat that use a different technology. Resonant, rather than inductive charging. And it is said to work fine through thick cases.
So regardless of who ends up dominating the market, I'd try to buy a Powermat or PMA product if the price is similar. Keep in mind that you can't mix and match. The piece that goes inside your battery cover (or is built into the cover) has to match the charger. Both need to be Qi or both need to be PMA to work.
More info:Wireless charging standards
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply!
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MT4GS Powermat Receiver Door for $9.99

Hey all, I just noticed that the official Powermat back battery door for the MT4GS is on sale at T-Mobile for ten bucks. You'll still need the actual Powermat charger, which goes for $20-30 online. The website also charges shipping and sales tax, FYI. But still a good price:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons/accessories/default.aspx?categorycode=898#tblId10
great find, is it only in black?
These are highly worth the money, it charges the phone much faster and is nice to not "plug" my phone in..
Got one for xmas and works amazing..
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shady503403 said:
These are highly worth the money, it charges the phone much faster and is nice to not "plug" my phone in..
Got one for xmas and works amazing..
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my battery door just **** the bed, so this is a godsend!
Case that fits?
I just got the PowerMat and battery door when I upgraded on Saturday. I love it, but I can't find a case that will fit over the slighty larger than normal battery door. Has anyone else had luck finding something that works?
Where's the best place to get a single position mat? Best price?
rorytmeadows said:
Where's the best place to get a single position mat? Best price?
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I looked around Amazon a little bit and saw plenty of single-position mats for a particular device, usually including the receiver door for that device, for under $10. (You know, for a device that you don't have. ) Here is one example (for BlackBerry Bold 9700): http://www.amazon.com/Powermat-Position-Charging-BlackBerry-Receiver/dp/B00462QB4C
It looks like these mats have a custom indentation to hug the back of the device, so it's unlikely to be a perfect fit. Also, if you device doesn't fit into the indentation, it might not charge.
But ... cheap! Most of these are not Amazon Prime eligible, so it costs another few bucks for shipping.
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I'm sort of inspired by this thread to try hacking some powermat chargers for some other phones where the receiver is still expensive or there just isn't a receiver. If you search around, you can find some reports of folks who have done this with varying degrees of aesthetic sensibility in the results.
One idea, that I kind of like a lot, is to use the Palm Pre charging "Touchstone" as the transmitting mat. Because the Palm Pre was kind of a dud in the marketplace, the Touchstones are available for pretty cheap. Here's an example at Amazon for under $5, including shipping: http://www.amazon.com/Palm-Touchstone-Charging-Dock-Pre/dp/B002CMEIWK. One hitch with the Touchstone is that it uses a couple of magnetic thingies to activate it (and, I guess, hold the device in place). I'm sure one could deal with that somehow.
Thanks for the last post.
Alright, I'm totally confused. I took a look on Amazon earlier this week, but without confidence in the mat actually working with the device perfectly, I decided to check out what was in stores.
I go to Best Buy and couldn't find them. I asked an associate and they said that they no longer are carrying PowerMats because of the shorting out risk.
Ummmmmmm, okay....
I go to Radio Shack and the associate there starts talking to me about two different types and how one doesn't charge fully all the time and that kills your battery over time and the other involves walking around with a "puck" on your phone.
What the hell is everyone talking about??? I thought these were pretty good and I'm reading nothing but nice reviews online, with the exception of the expense. Frankly, at $10 plus shipping for the case, I no longer care about the expense.
Thoughts????
I don't know anything definitive about most of that. From poking around today, I've deduced a few things (none of which involved "shorting out" ).
Powermat and Duracell both made something that looked like roughly the same technology. Some time in the recent past, Powermat and Proctor and Gamble (who I guess own the Duracell brand?) formed a joint venture or some marketing agreement to make and sell "Duracell Powermat" devices.
The mention of a puck thing could mean either of two things. First, Powermat sells a "universal" receiver, which is a little block with the inductor coil inside it. You still have to connect it to your phone's charger port via mini/micro USB (or one of their other tips). Of course, you wouldn't have that on all the time, except when you are charging. Second, Duracell sells or used to sell a gadget that semi-permanently plugs into your USB port and then sticks to the back of your phone. The latter sounds like what the RS guy was talking about.
After a couple days out of town, I returned to find a bunch of packages of el cheapo Powermat stuff for experiments.
I got a single-position mat specially intended for iPhone 3G and 3GS from a 3rd party supplier on Amazon for $7.44 (and free shipping due to Amazon Prime). With the MT4GS Powermat receiver cover from T-Mobile, I can charge using this mat. It's not a perfect fit. The mat does have an indentation, but it's not for the iPhone. The included iPhone case has a rectangular hump on the back, and the indentation is for that hump. Still, by wiggling things a bit and placing the MT4GS off-center, it does charge. The MT4GS cover does not have that hump ... it's just slightly thicker than standard overall.
From the feel of things, there must be magnets that activate the mat. So, I had to fiddle with the placement of the phone to get the mat to turn on. Once it did, the charging light came on for the phone.
(I haven't taken any of this apart yet, so I'm speculating a little.)
On spec, I bought a Palm Pre Touchstone charging kit. They are pretty cool looking and are available pretty cheaply. (Mine cost less than $10, and I've now seen them for $4.) Alas, the kit include the charging dock (which I hope turns out to be compatible with Powermat) and a receiver cover for the Palm Pre (yawn), but it turns out that it wants to reuse the power cord from the original Palm Pre charger.
It looks like it's a mini USB connector (though it could be micro USB), but it fits into a pretty cramped tunnel in the charging dock. None of the USB cords I have on hand will fit all the way into that tunnel.
So, that's a bit of a bust, but I reckon I might buy a Palm Pre power supply since they are also pretty cheap. The looks of the Touchstone are so cool, I hope I can get it working with my MT4GS.
Anyone interested in one or two of these?
Sorry to Necro this thread but has anyone gotten this door to work with Qi chargers? I suppose it won't work out of the box but I can imagine switching out the coil with one for like a SGS3 or some such.

Car / Vehicle Qi Chargers

Hey guys and gals,
I am looking to purchase a Car Qi Charger. I have not yet found a thread for this, though there were options mentioned in the regular Qi Charger thread, but this one is specifically for the car.
I have found 2 which look promising but just want to know other peoples input. Plus want to know if they will hold with a case on the phone.
Itian: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M685JTG/
C1: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H1XU6A8/
Both of these look pretty good, have mixed reviews, but just want to know what you guys think would be best and if anyone actually used these in the past?
I know that there is also the AirDock, but I doubt it would hold the Note 4 all that well, so not bothering to include it.
I currently use this item in my car as a regular holder, so I wish there was one (other than the AirDock) which can utilize the ability to hold and charge the phone by mounting into the CD Slot of the car head unit: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G1L52Q/
Please add to this list if anyone has better solutions.
I've been agonizing over this choice myself, but I'm even worse off than you- I've gotten hooked on having a magnetic mount (currently using the Bracketron Si earth elements mount), and I REALLY like the S-View cover, so what I really want is a car dock that does Qi charging AND holds the phone magnetically, with strong enough magnets to hold through the S-View flap! Unfortunately, it seems that at this point there aren't ANY magnetic Qi docks (apart from the Airdock, and I'm right on the same page as you there), let alone one that would work through the S-View flap! So basically if I want Qi I'm stuck either sacrificing the magnetic holding feature and going with arms, or I'll have to build my own custom dock. Haven't quite decided which route I'll go yet, but man do I wish there was a decent magnetic Qi dock!
Anyway, as for Qi docks that DO exist now, in my research I've found a couple that seem to really stand out and come up time and again as the go-to's for Qi in the car. Here's the best options I've seen so far:
The iOttie: http://www.iottie.com/Product/Detai...for Google Nexus 5 and Qi Enabled Smartphones
Amazon's got this one for $55 also: http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Wireless-Standard-Motorola-Smartphones/dp/B00IRHQZTI
Nokia CR-201: http://www.mobilefun.com/38310-nokia-qi-wireless-charging-nfc-car-holder-cr-201-Reviews.htm
bit more expensive, but has some nice features.
Then there's this:http://www.tylt.com/vu-car-wireless-charger/
Not available yet, but it looks like it may be a decent option.
I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the plethora of non-name brand Qi gear thats out there, some people say that they work just as well for cheaper prices and others say that they're total junk. I guess I'd say if you see one you really like then just make sure that you read reviews on it so you don't get stuck with something that doesn't work or worse.
As for a mount that uses the CD slot, I haven't seen any Qi docks that come with that option but many docks share similar or identical mounting solutions, so once you find a Qi dock that you like you could probably find a non-qi dock that mounts in the CD slot and then just replace the actual dock with the Qi one. Personally I don't think I'd trust the CD slot to hold up a phone this heavy, I'd be worried about damaging the CD player not to mention it'll be much less steady, but hey if that's what you like then good luck!
Thanks for the input
I will have to look into the Ottie one as it does look fairly decent. The Nokia one is way over priced and I cannot say I am a fan of it. The Tylt is nice, but I am sure it is going to be quite costly due to their original designs of their products.
The reason I want it as a CD mount is because I currently have one (minus the Qi of course) and it works just fine, hold the phone super good, without issues at all what so ever. Plus, no damage done to the head unit or CD Slot (not that I use CDs of course lol).
I just want something very low profile, but for it to do the job you know. The reason why I do not want anything mounted on the windshield is because I hate wires and I like for the phone to be close to me while I drive. I do not text and drive though! I plan to run the wire behind my head unit and bring out just enough to plug into the Qi holder. This will be a pain in the rear of course, but I am anal when it comes to wires lol. I have a radar, dash cam, and soon a Qi charger, all of which I want to make fairly invisible with regards to wires.
soul777toast said:
I've been agonizing over this choice myself, but I'm even worse off than you- I've gotten hooked on having a magnetic mount (currently using the Bracketron Si earth elements mount), and I REALLY like the S-View cover, so what I really want is a car dock that does Qi charging AND holds the phone magnetically, with strong enough magnets to hold through the S-View flap! Unfortunately, it seems that at this point there aren't ANY magnetic Qi docks (apart from the Airdock, and I'm right on the same page as you there), let alone one that would work through the S-View flap! So basically if I want Qi I'm stuck either sacrificing the magnetic holding feature and going with arms, or I'll have to build my own custom dock. Haven't quite decided which route I'll go yet, but man do I wish there was a decent magnetic Qi dock!
Anyway, as for Qi docks that DO exist now, in my research I've found a couple that seem to really stand out and come up time and again as the go-to's for Qi in the car. Here's the best options I've seen so far:
The iOttie: http://www.iottie.com/Product/Detai...for Google Nexus 5 and Qi Enabled Smartphones
Amazon's got this one for $55 also: http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Wireless-Standard-Motorola-Smartphones/dp/B00IRHQZTI
Nokia CR-201: http://www.mobilefun.com/38310-nokia-qi-wireless-charging-nfc-car-holder-cr-201-Reviews.htm
bit more expensive, but has some nice features.
Then there's this:http://www.tylt.com/vu-car-wireless-charger/
Not available yet, but it looks like it may be a decent option.
I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the plethora of non-name brand Qi gear thats out there, some people say that they work just as well for cheaper prices and others say that they're total junk. I guess I'd say if you see one you really like then just make sure that you read reviews on it so you don't get stuck with something that doesn't work or worse.
As for a mount that uses the CD slot, I haven't seen any Qi docks that come with that option but many docks share similar or identical mounting solutions, so once you find a Qi dock that you like you could probably find a non-qi dock that mounts in the CD slot and then just replace the actual dock with the Qi one. Personally I don't think I'd trust the CD slot to hold up a phone this heavy, I'd be worried about damaging the CD player not to mention it'll be much less steady, but hey if that's what you like then good luck!
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I found one on sale (non brand name though)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/QI-W...a-Lumia-920-820-Free-shipping/2041086689.html
and another
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...S3-S4-Note2-Nexus-Nokia-Lumia/1795791846.html
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
elite-fusion said:
I will have to look into the Ottie one as it does look fairly decent. The Nokia one is way over priced and I cannot say I am a fan of it. The Tylt is nice, but I am sure it is going to be quite costly due to their original designs of their products.
The reason I want it as a CD mount is because I currently have one (minus the Qi of course) and it works just fine, hold the phone super good, without issues at all what so ever. Plus, no damage done to the head unit or CD Slot (not that I use CDs of course lol)..
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Keep in mind that none of the chargers that people listed here except for the Itian have the One Touch operation. Paradoxically that includes the iOttie charger (people who invented it). So to me they all seem ridiculously overpriced for the limited functionality they provide. I am using Itian, and so far pretty happy with it. If you really need some sort of specific mount (CD, Vent, or whatever), you may be able to take Itian head (it's detachable) and glue it to the mount that you like. I had to do that myself because by dash has rough texture and the only suction cup that would stick is iOttie gel cap. So I used a suction cup plus arm form a low end iOttie charger ($13.99 on sale) and Itian head ($27.99). Cheaper and more functional than name brands.
railshot said:
Keep in mind that none of the chargers that people listed here except for the Itian have the One Touch operation. Paradoxically that includes the iOttie charger (people who invented it). So to me they all seem ridiculously overpriced for the limited functionality they provide. I am using Itian, and so far pretty happy with it. If you really need some sort of specific mount (CD, Vent, or whatever), you may be able to take Itian head (it's detachable) and glue it to the mount that you like. I had to do that myself because by dash has rough texture and the only suction cup that would stick is iOttie gel cap. So I used a suction cup plus arm form a low end iOttie charger ($13.99 on sale) and Itian head ($27.99). Cheaper and more functional than name brands.
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Thanks for the input
I actually ordered the C1 yesterday, but ordered it from AliExpress for $34 and should hopefully be here in about a week or so.
I will report back. I am wondering about purchasing the Itian though and seeing which one is actually better, but not sure yet.
I used AirDock with my LG G3. It should work with note4 also. Got nothing bad to say about that dock!
theairdock dot com
loonyone said:
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
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Disregard my earlier suggestion. Now that I finally have a Qi Receiver sticker for my Note 4, I'm finding that this one doesn't charge because the receiver isn't centered in the phone. I did cut up my receiver and turn the coil as close to the center as possible (careful not to cut the actual wires!), but it still doesn't charge for more than 2 seconds before the charging indicator turns off on the phone.
I ordered this one as a replacement and it's working great:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F5XPCSC/
Caveat: I don't know if it would work with the receiver sticker still in it's original configuration... :/ If I had to guess, I'd say it would because I can slide my phone to either side a little bit and I don't lose connection.
I had it with my Note 3. With the Note 4, I upgraded the car charger to a QC 2.0 charger and my car charging need is solved. It charges way faster than the best Qi charger that I've tried.
elite-fusion said:
Hey guys and gals,
I am looking to purchase a Car Qi Charger. I have not yet found a thread for this, though there were options mentioned in the regular Qi Charger thread, but this one is specifically for the car.
I have found 2 which look promising but just want to know other peoples input. Plus want to know if they will hold with a case on the phone.
Itian: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M685JTG/
C1: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H1XU6A8/
Both of these look pretty good, have mixed reviews, but just want to know what you guys think would be best and if anyone actually used these in the past?
I know that there is also the AirDock, but I doubt it would hold the Note 4 all that well, so not bothering to include it.
I currently use this item in my car as a regular holder, so I wish there was one (other than the AirDock) which can utilize the ability to hold and charge the phone by mounting into the CD Slot of the car head unit: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G1L52Q/
Please add to this list if anyone has better solutions.
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Have the air dock with the goose neck mount. It was garbage and then I saw that they have the magnetic stickers. I attach the magnetic sticker to the back of the case I have the tough armor case. Now it is absolutely amazing I can't imagine anything better anyone looking for charger
gingi999 said:
Have the air dock with the goose neck mount. It was garbage and then I saw that they have the magnetic stickers. I attach the magnetic sticker to the back of the case I have the tough armor case. Now it is absolutely amazing I can't imagine anything better anyone looking for charger
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Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
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Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
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Just use these, its what I do and it works amazing
Right, I would assume I'd need to use the sticker but what I'm wondering is whether the AirDock will hold the phone with the S-View cover flipped around to the back. Basically the sticker would be on the back of the phone, then the S-View cover would be between the sticker and the AirDock. Are the magnets in the AirDock strong enough to hold the phone even with the cover between them and the sticker?
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Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
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The nexus 5 has 4 metal discs in it specifically to make magnetic docks easy and allow for some self aligning.
The airdock with the nexus 5 works reasonable well. Not perfect, I do have to realign the phone more than once per day and end up grabbing or holding if if there's a big dip/bump/whatever.
However even with a thin case the n5 is unusable with the air dock. What's worse is that the airdock + note 4 is worse than the airdock + n5. I'm guessing the note 4 doesn't have the 4 discs.
I have an airdock and it works great with the Note 4.
i use an itian charger and it works great with double sided scotch tape for outdoor mounting. sticks vertically to the dash and holds the note 4 with two prongs.
While shopping for cars, I found out the camry and Avalon can come with wireless charging. I ended up with an Avalon Hybrid with tech pkg.
I'm not happy with this one - lost allways the connection - looking now one with three coils like my Itian desk charger, this one works perfect....
loonyone said:
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
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I like the iOttie...

Wireless Charging Phone Sleeve

Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
Looks very interesting. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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Like it, but will it work with the phone in a case?
Thanks guys! So i take it you will be theoretically willing to get a phone sleeve for the s5? Yes it will work with your existing cases because i'm choosing stretchable materials for ampere, except maybe otterboxes, and the case also has to work with Qi wireless charging. I think lots of cases will espc since we're using a bigger coil.
tongrhj said:
Guys, I'm going to be launching a wireless charging phone sleeve on Kickstarter in January. The unique selling point will be the Smart app that communicates with the sleeve.
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine which phones to support. If you guys could just share your thoughts that'd be great.
Namely:
Will you as a Samsung Galaxy s5 user invest in a new phone sleeve
Why do you/ dont you use existing portable chargers like powerbanks and Qi chargers
If you know any cool portable wireless chargers
I myself use a Nexus 4 with Qi built in but I haven't found a satisfactory wireless charging solution yet... that's kinda why I worked on my own. Thanks!
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I use wireless charging and I own power banks. Powerbanks are mostly annoying because of keeping up with cords. But it would be nice to have a small flip put Micro USB and USB for charging and discharging to devices that don't have wireless charging (like my fiancees phone) . Also, I haven't bought a current qi bank because of the fact I can't throw my phone in my pocket and just let it charge. Your solution, depending on the price and size, seems to take care of those concerns for me. I would definitely consider buying it.
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YES that problem with portable Qi chargers is exactly what happened to me. I ended up bringing along a wire anyway so my phone could charge in the bag. Thanks for reminding me about that and for the support.
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
giorgoschr said:
Nice idea.. i am already using a Qi but its no so happy so any other alternative will be consider
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Yup, I personally have a Nexus 4 and was super-hyped to try wireless charging, only to find that most Qi products are absolutely rubbish beyond the novelty.
That's why I designed the sleeve to fix a lot of the heat dissipation, durability, looks, portability and alignment issues that plague Qi products. Please do leave your email on the website if you're interested! I'll contact you again just before launch in January.
make this a +1 for me also im IN .
If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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If it will stretch to fit the Commuter Wallet, I'd think about dropping coin on it if the price is reasonable. My QI receiver works through the wallet case so that shouldn't be a problem. I personally find it much easier to carry a spare fully charged battery or two when the situation calls for it.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Actually, I wouldn't recommend you use wireless charging with wallets at that kind of proximity. It might interfere with your credit cards' magnetic strips.
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Been using wireless through my wallet case for about 3 months. No issues yet (knock on wood)!
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Ok good for that info! I've been using it too, and would say the same. Still, recommended not to slide your credit cards through ampere.
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Guys, thanks for the product validation thus far. Now, I need your feedback on the optional app. Here are the proposed features:
I'm doing research for the launch now to determine what features to incorporate in this app:
Display estimated battery life in hrs of phone and ampere
Control when charging starts
find your phone or ampere when one is missing
notifications to recharge at time or location
What other features would you like to see? I've recently posted in the S5 and Nexus 5 forums too, and I've been told not to dilute the product, which I agree with heartily. These are the features I've narrowed it down to. What other things do you think we need to bake in? It will probably be open to developers post-Kickstarter.
Feel free to check the product out over at http://kickstarter.novelsys.co.
Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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Hey guys! Just wanted to update everybody that we've got a teaser video now
let me know what you think before we launch on Kickstarter
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I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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I just went to amazon and bought the fonesalesman receiver and koolpad installed in 10 seconds and it works perfect. And I have one of the thickest phone cases from element case the recon pro.
I also bought a Qi charger for the car ...
After a week of using this I have put koolpad's in two other rooms in the house. It just works slick,
How would your sleeve work would I still be able to use any case I wanted ? This is a must, I must have the freedom to choose what case I want to use ?
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Not any case I'm afraid. It should fit most soft cases and slim hard cases. It's really on a case by case basis. (see where I did there?) by Kickstarter, our testing will be more rigorously completed and I'll be able to say exactly to what thickness case Ampere can tolerate.
1454 said:
I like it. I'll probably get one when you release it. I like the locator function as well. Does it have a wireless charging receiver also? (for charging the unit that is.)
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I'm afraid you'll have to charge Ampere via a MicroUSB. There's less benefit to charging Ampere wirelessly than your phone though.
So what do I need to fit on my phone to use this wirelessly?

Qi+NFC+AT&T G3, no hardware hacking.

Greetings!
Like many of you (or so I've read) I was on the hunt for some way to get my AT&T G3 to support Qi charging. It all seemed hopeless. I believe I have solved the problem with the least amount of 'hassle' and the least amount of loss of functionality of the phone as possible (its cheap too!). You also don't even need to open your phone up.
I have Qi chargers all over the place already from my last phone, so Qi was crucial to adopting the G3 and not swapping it for something else (AT&T had a great deal and it was free on a new phone line).
I found a gadget that basically has 1 downside, that being, that it consumes your USB port. For me that's not a huge deal because I never plug my phone into anything other than a charger, and with Qi, no need. I've seen people talk about it on here before, but couldn't find any cases where someone bought one.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The device is here: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
$9.96 at the moment.
HOWEVER, there is a BIG DOWNSIDE at first! If you put the Qi receiver inside your phone behind the outer shell, the existing NFC antenna squashes the signal and it won't charge.
I have a Spigen case for the G3 like my Nexus5 (great cases IMHO), so I said "well what if I just leave the cover off", so I did, and put the Spigen case back on. It worked. At first I was going to leave it, since it still fit fine in the case like that. I thought more about it though and realized dust and other badness would get into the phone if I did that.
So I wondered if I just put the wireless antenna OUTSIDE of the phone, so between the Spigen case and the phone itself, run the USB cable down to the USB port, tape it in place so it doesn't move around...
It totally worked. So no need to even open the phone. Just plug this thing into the USB port, line it up well inside the back of a case/cover, tape it down with some heat resistant tape, and put your case on.
With the Spigen case you can barely even see it, and it certainly does not protrude beyond the border of the case. Even without the Spigen case on with this thing, the extra plastic sticking out is very minimal and hardly noticeable.
I was pretty happy with this at that point, and left it alone.. But then I wondered, does NFC still work? Its being blocked now by the Qi module, AND the Spigen case.. I wonder...
NFC works fine still too.
Cost:
$10 for the module
$20 for the Spigen case
0% hardware modification
Loss of functionality:
- Requires a case, so added weight/bulk
- USB port is not usable for anything else, though can be pulled out relatively easily when necessary without taking anything apart.
Sorry for the length, I tend to be a windbag.
( sorry, I don't post enough, can't do posts with links )
The Module: Search on Amazon for B00H7FJX7M
The Case: Search on Amazon for B00JQI2USW
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
Sadly moving to PMA wasn't an option for me simply because I have other Qi devices still, and didn't want to spend the money on a bunch of new chargers.
Just figured I would share what i found in case someone else or there was in a similar situation as me and didn't mind the loss of the usb port (though again, it's pretty easy to unplug temporarily).
Good find I forgot to share what you found... YouTube has a video ,Android authority I think k did one
2SHAYNEZ
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
guapinoy said:
Have you done tests to see how fast it charges? I already have a module that I used with my moto x before but never used it with the g3. I remembered it took forever with the moto x and that had a smaller battery.
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Indeed I have done testing, but not "scientific testing", more "real world" testing (basically I've been using it for 2 days ).
So far, the rate that it charges seems pretty close to what I've grown to expect from the Nexus 5. Hard to say how fast it goes from 0% to 100%, as I rarely if ever have my phone go below 40% (since I have a Qi charger almost everywhere I go, even in the car).
So far though, if at 100% and put on the charger, it stays at 100% with the screen off, if a GPU intensive DayDream is running with the screen on, the battery does drain a bit but at a very slow rate (perhaps 2-3% per hour).
Last night I put it on the charger at around 70% battery, and it was 100% in under an hour, which is about what I see with my Nexus 5 as well.
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
pyro224 said:
Hmm I don't really use nfc... Is there any issues fit issues with installing this inside the battery door? Or does it not charge even if nfc is off?
Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk
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Installing it inside will and probably still add a slight bulge. These wireless chips are not paper thin. You have coils and ribbons so it will be thick.
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Actually this particular wireless antenna is very thin and fits just fine behind the battery door, the problem is the NFC antenna actually keeps the wireless charging antenna from even working, so when you put it inside the battery door on an AT&T G3, it simply won't charge due to the NFC antenna causing interference.
Hey thanks! so it must be outside the case then. I read in the Amazon reviews that this receiver only charges at 500 mah, and some phones will interpret this as USB charging and charge slower. How do you find the charging speed?
shayneflashindaily said:
My PMA coil works just fine with my d850. I bought my coil for 20$ and installed it on backplate.... I need my USB port. Seen this the other day. Att shiykd have used qi to begin with.
2SHAYNEZ
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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Not for the D850 or D852. It's hardware based so it has to be PMA.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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No sadly the d850 uses the PMA technology which I have no idea why.. It sucks because the PMA coil makes a bulge when installed and its hard to get it right... I have a back plate with it but barely use it. My extended mugen battery does the trick.
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Can a OE battery cover with Qi be used? I've seen these for all but the AT&T device.
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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I have two Qi chargers and I really don't want to buy a Powermat - So I will probably give this a try. However before I do, I have a question
- Did LG make a hardware change to disable "Qi" and enable "PMA" or this is just a firmware thing? To elaborate is it possible to flash Tmobile firmware and get Tmobile Qi back cover make "Qi" work?
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This falls on the Hardware side. No firmware will enable Qi. We are stuck with PMA
Just bought from eBay for 3.45 USD http://www.ebay.com/itm/161689530982. Lets hope it works
It works but charges really slow. If anyone over 20 reps wants it - I will ship it for free - gift to XDA
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We have a special PMA OEM case. We also have these stickers for the DIYers, but they'll leave a slight bulge on the battery cover.
At least the official LG cases are coming down in price. They cost $20 to $30 more two weeks ago when I bought my G3.
I just wish I could find an extended battery case with a quick circle window. I didn't think that would be a hard-to-find product, but it is....
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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Are you sure that case has PMA charging? One of the answered questions says it doesn't...
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It might not....the LG PMA case was around $50 iirc. It's only $30 now. Might be a different product or they're out of our PMA cases. Just get a sticker if you really need PMA. Personally, I'm a bit worried about it frying my phone (had a really unlucky past year with electronics being fried).
I really starting to think to do what you have done

[Wireless Charging] Anybody Have Experience With The NeWisdom Qi Sticker?

This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
THE TEAM!!!
ThisIsCheez said:
This wireless charger is one of today's deals on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-PowerPort-Charging-Qi-Enabled/dp/B00Y839YMU/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
I've heard a pretty substantial amount of good reviews for this charger, so I'm thinking of picking it up since it's only $15. I was also looking into getting an OEM LG wireless charging back, but I'm not willing to pay $50+ for it. Ran across the NeWisdom Qi sticker and it seems to have mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/NeWisdom-Wire...sr=8-1&keywords=lg+v10+wireless+charging+chip
Was wondering if anybody has had experience with the NeWisdom Qi sticker. Any overheating? Went bad after a while? Ect.
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I nominate you to take one for the team. Let us know!
Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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Dont bother...I've tried several wireless charging sticker/Qi combos and it just drains the battery.
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So i bought the new Wisdom sticker off Amazon. I'll say this--i used a hair dryer as the instruction indicates--and peeled the original NFC only sticker off (or so i thought) and applied the new wisdom. It would register like it was charging but not actually charge as dr_w indicates above.
HOWEVER...frustrated i looked at a couple videos and noticed that the battery doors with the sticker fully removed didn't look like mine. With an exacto knife i picked at the remaining black area only to find there was still copper wire underneath. In effect the original NFC sticker had multiple layers and i'd only peeled off the top. Getting ALL of it up was a challenge...like a real challenge...it did not peel off i had to scrape with a knife for an extended period of time.
At the end of the day though once i had the original sticker all the way off i reapplied the New Wisdom Sticker (which surprisingly survived multiple attempts at reapplying without ill effect). Then setting it on my Spigen charger stand and running the Ampere app i was amazed at how well it was charging. It actually was over 1000ma at one point and after finding it's range (it starts low and builds) it averaged at about 800ma. That was decent enough to charge my phone pretty quick. For reference fast charging is like 1350--1500ma or so. In comparison the Monroy wireless back i bought from Amazon that already had a sticker applied (presumably NOT New Wisdom) typically does maybe 350-500ma.
So the bottom line is it was WAY more of a pain than i anticipated but now i'm stoked and actually rather impressed with the performance.
LEt us know if its consistent. I've had a very similar experience before it began discharging at a rapid rate. Thanks for the post, I'll keep checking back.
Originally had a cheap sticker off eBay that lasted several months, about 3,then the chip in the phone caved out. Got the newisdom the other day and got a Tylt charger to go with 2 Samsung fast chargers and no issues so far. The constant lighting up the phone when it's charged is annoying and the g4 tweaksbox doesn't seem to fix it.
I'm using the OEM LG wireless back and it's quite nice. Feels exactly like the original and fits very flush, no problems with wireless detection on my TYLT charger. I'm actually surprised at how little the back weighs as my understanding is the copper coils should add some noticeable weight but in this case it doesn't. Maybe not that much copper in these OEM backs?
Just ordered an OEM wireless charging back for my V10 (a seller on Amazon has it for $29.99 atm though no prime shipping with the fastest option being expedited shipping) and due to the price, I'd imagine it already being sold out by the time this post is read. I didn't want to get the third party stickers as I want to keep my current back and the third party plastic backs are pretty horrible in terms of feel and fit.
Anyways, what do you guys recommend for a good wireless charging pad? The official Samsung pads look interesting enough as is and I've seen it work with every device with Qi built in or using one of those plug-in Qi pads you place inside a case before the phone though I'm gonna have to wait til my next paycheck to get a pad: already spend a good chunk of cash on an MSI RX 480 and only bought this back due to the steal of a price at $29.99, $36 with expedited shipping. It was that or go with prime and spend $60 on a back
Finally received my OEM wireless back. As expected, the battery door feels exactly like the original back albeit curves near the button cutout due to the extra elevation it adds. Also makes cases a tighter fit if you're concerned about compatibility. Works on my Yootech wireless charger as well as a friend's Samsung wireless charger and Tylt Vu 3, the last two having the best range in terms of surface since the Yootech seems to only have one coil. As for charging, going from 0-100% took about 2-3 hours and the phone got pretty warm too though just a smidgen cooler than it gets when quick charging via cable. The packaging DOES have the description for what would've been a wireless charging variant of the Quickview cover which would attach as a battery door too but I guess that didn't work after all the hullabaloo about the faulty Qi chip. Sucks that the LG logo simply takes place of the rather sexy V10 logo
Either way, I'd recommend getting an OEM back when you can though might wanna wait. Some listing still sell it for $60 a pop and even $100

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