some noob questions. - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I went to the development section and it seem pretty dead there, especially for the LTE version. So here are the questions.
1. Why are they so empty, like there is no custom ROMs? Is it because the stock version is pretty good or just the lack of motivated dev?
2. Is the LTE version worth it? I mean yes it's $100 more, but only 16GB extra.
3. If I put AT&T phone sim in the LTE version, can I use it as a phone as well? If so, that sound like it worth extra to pay for LTE, than just trying to tether.
4. How is the stylus compared to something like the Galaxy Note series? I used Note 2 and 3, and their stylus is excellent. It's Wacom with pressure sensitivity after all.

1. Probably no developers with the tablet. There is also less of a need with xposed modules working. Oh, and I just bought mine a couple days ago, but I'm more of a kernel person than a firmware developer.
2. Is it worth it to you for the extra storage and mobile data?
3. No. At least not normally. You might be able via Google voice or hangouts.
4. Not as good as a note, but better than nearly all conductive styli I've tried in the best.
Gary
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The storage doesn't mean much to me. My usage of the device is a bit differ from most ppl. I currently using AT&T note 3, that read locked boot loader to you. I prefer having microSD slot to store the pictures I shot(from dSLR). And I would use stylus if I want models to sign release form. I don't mind the size as much, as I would normally carry some sort of small messenger bag. I guess I'll wait a little while to see if there is a update coming for note 3 anytime soon, or I may be looking to buy international note 4 instead.

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Samsung Galaxy S3 or LG Nexus 4 - Need some advice

Hello XDA,
My name is Robert Oortwijn and I currently have a Samsung Star. So I want to get a new phone and am deciding between the S3 or Nexus 4, nothing else. I have enough money to buy one of the two
So for the last month I have been looking, searching, watching stuff regarding the S3 and Nexus 4. From comparisons to single reviews.
What I want really is to have a good phone. It will be my first Android phone and smartphone.
My closest friend got the Galaxy S3 Pebble Blue and I really like the big screen and color. What I also like is the ability to have the battery removed and extend storage. Then again I also really like the Nexus 4 for getting the latest updates and being stock Android.
Sadly my concern is this. The glass back which from my impressions breaks really fast. A 1m drop or just ticking your phone against a table will crack it. Secondly is the bit smaller size of the screen. The Nexus 4 has a 4,7 inch compared to the S3 4,8 inch. It becomes even less because of the on-screen based buttons. This trough isn't a issue. I like on-screen and S3 style buttons.
What I just can't is making a decisions. Both are amazing phones where the one has something I like and the other doesn't and vice versa.
I would like to ask XDA to give some opinions and reasons why I should pick one of these two phones.
While 16GB is in my opinion enough for apps, maybe 3 games and music? I have like 4GB of music on my PC, I do like the extra storage but then again the N4 offers stock android and such.
I hope XDA will be the one able to help me. I tried many forums but only got one responds and those weren't really helpful.
Greetings :laugh:,
Robert Oortwijn
Nexus 4
Sounds like you've already given a lot of thought about which phone you want to choose or select and you've already researched the options that each phone has. But it comes down to what's important to you. If expandable storage and removable battery is important to you or if you think you can live without it. I personally don't own either device but I know you'll get die hard fans on both sides saying that their phone is the best and why. But in the end it's really your opinion that matters because you'll be the one who has to live with the phone. I am trying to make the decision myself as to which one I would choose and I go back and forth.
Personally if you're thinking of the S4, I would opt for the NOTE II instead. I haven't heard any legitimate complaints about it. And even some people who own the N4 or S3 are trying to sell their phone and get one. Plus it has a 5.5" display!
But it really does come down to what you think is important. I too have music that I think is so important to transfer onto my storage on my phone but Google music player can sync your music on your PC to your phone. And I use spotify more than than the copied music on my phone. With spotify, @ $10 a month, you have unlimited access to virtually any artist or album out there. Albums are available on spotify the same day the CDs are released. Plus you can download playlists to your phone over wifi that you can listen to without using data.
Hope this helps.
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Nexus 4
Personally I would go for the Nexus 4. Stock Android is important for someone like me who makes little apps.
I love samaung for all dives and i using s5302
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
How the phone looks and your preference of buttons, screen size etc. is up to you i guess.
For the GS3 the international model is hampered by Samsungs own Exynos processor and that being much harder to develop for than the Qualcomm in the US version. For instance Cyanogenmod 10.1 on the i9300 has no stable builds because of development problems.
In fact the current i9300 developers have said they will not be supporting the international GS4 as it will be such a pain.
If you are in the US then you are fine for Cyanogenmod at least, and probably most other custom ROMs.
nexus 4 is better in us.
Mrreg said:
I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
Slevin73 said:
What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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I live in the Netherlands. We don't have LTE (yet) but I do know that HSPA+ is fast enough for me so LTE isn't a big problem compared to US citizens.
I'm going to get the device with a contract. 100 calls or sms with 500 mb for 20 euros for the coming 24 months.
Regarding Stock Android or ROMS I don't know. Seeing it has Stock Android I might just stick with that.
I'm not a developer either. Just a teen who want to get his first Android/Smart-phone hehe

SG Note 3 in the Philippines

welcome to the galaxy note 3 threads in the philippines
fortunately i was invited on one of the unpacking events in our country and got to take home a pre production phone on load
here are photos of my loaned unit
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=AB68AA1C40BFBCAB!138&authkey=!AFZbLnWqMdkEfO8
here's my light review of my unit care of Mark Macanas of TechPinas
http://www.techpinas.com/2013/09/samsung-galaxy-note3-n9005-lte-quad.html
we already have a formed group at facebook philippines:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/290019681144344/
reserved for future use
Very nice, your very fortunate to get a unit to test out!
My wife is pinay and ill be in the Philippines this march so i tend to follow the alot of the Philippines threads on here just out of interest in what's going on with devices there.
from Canada via my S3, S4 or Note2
force70 said:
Very nice, your very fortunate to get a unit to test out!
My wife is pinay and ill be in the Philippines this march so i tend to follow the alot of the Philippines threads on here just out of interest in what's going on with devices there.
from Canada via my S3, S4 or Note2
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yeah i was lucky, being part of the team here and the facebook group helped too...samsung is beginning to tap the user community, as they should have done earlier...
Nice! Dont know what to get one first. Note 3 or note 10.1 2014.
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lucky you!
Your one lucky guy to be able to experience my next dream phone! Hope you can update us further on your day to day usage with regards to camera quality if there are any issues, also is the screen experiencing black clippings when playing movies with a lot of dark shots like Harry Potter, etc... :good:
Hey kababayan! I've been following your techpinas updates. Any news on the pricing and release dates here in the philippines? Thanks!
ttl8me said:
Your one lucky guy to be able to experience my next dream phone! Hope you can update us further on your day to day usage with regards to camera quality if there are any issues, also is the screen experiencing black clippings when playing movies with a lot of dark shots like Harry Potter, etc... :good:
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ill try...i just have it for some days though but i smacked tested the camera and the screen...
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Hey kababayan! I've been following your techpinas updates. Any news on the pricing and release dates here in the philippines? Thanks!
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they are still privy on the price of the phone but i guesstimate it between 35-40K...release is pushed and the launch is on the last week of september
How's responsiveness?
Preparing to replace my Note with either this or the Z1.
Just wondering:
1.) How is lag and hangs on the Note3? Did any show up while you are using it? Preferably while you are doing the benchmark or under heavy load.
2.) How about accuracy of the screen? The note is off by a few pixels how about this? I think this was well documented problem on the note, I'll describe it if you are not familiar with it.
3.) Touch responsiveness? The note is slow on the lockscreen when you have pin lock. Try something like 160425 as your pin (no that is not my pin, I just randomly chose a 6 digit that can take advantage of both thumbs so you can press them very fast one after the other with preferably 1-2ms lag between each press), then press them 1 after the other very fast preferably on 2handed use. A lot of the times 1 of them won't register or will register wrong for the Note1. How about the Note3?
I'm a bit of a power user and the lag on the Note is annoying and is still laggy even after being rooted and flashed with slim bean. Just wanted to hear your take on the note3. As this might be the tie breaker for me.
I'm very disappointed with the Note (I wanted to throw it away after 6months of use but is under a 2yrs contract so... yeah) Mostly with TW and the screen, I even have ghost presses on the screen (luckily it was replaced while in warranty). So kinda want to stay away from sammy this round but between the Note3 and the Z1, the Note3 has the advantage of 3gb ram and 32gb storage (I'm on smart and I'm sure they will only have this version) on the hardware side and sammy usually have the bootloader unlocked, I expect this one to be the same while the Z1 will have it locked and I will lose a lot of the built-in features for unlocking it. But the lag on my Note is a big downer for getting another sammy that I'm willing to fore go the advantage of sammy for sony.
Thanks =)
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they are still privy on the price of the phone but i guesstimate it between 35-40K...release is pushed and the launch is on the last week of september
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Most probably your correct on the estimated launch price as Samsung will be selling the 32gb variant unlike before where they launch the 16gb for note2. Personally, I really prefer the 32gb and I'm very happy that Samsung decided to scrap the 16gb variant for note 3. Please update us on any new details with regards to launch date, venue and most especially the reservation of units.. Thanks and more power to you! :fingers-crossed:
drphph said:
Preparing to replace my Note with either this or the Z1.
Just wondering:
1.) How is lag and hangs on the Note3? Did any show up while you are using it? Preferably while you are doing the benchmark or under heavy load.
2.) How about accuracy of the screen? The note is off by a few pixels how about this? I think this was well documented problem on the note, I'll describe it if you are not familiar with it.
3.) Touch responsiveness? The note is slow on the lockscreen when you have pin lock. Try something like 160425 as your pin (no that is not my pin, I just randomly chose a 6 digit that can take advantage of both thumbs so you can press them very fast one after the other with preferably 1-2ms lag between each press), then press them 1 after the other very fast preferably on 2handed use. A lot of the times 1 of them won't register or will register wrong for the Note1. How about the Note3?
I'm a bit of a power user and the lag on the Note is annoying and is still laggy even after being rooted and flashed with slim bean. Just wanted to hear your take on the note3. As this might be the tie breaker for me.
I'm very disappointed with the Note (I wanted to throw it away after 6months of use but is under a 2yrs contract so... yeah) Mostly with TW and the screen, I even have ghost presses on the screen (luckily it was replaced while in warranty). So kinda want to stay away from sammy this round but between the Note3 and the Z1, the Note3 has the advantage of 3gb ram and 32gb storage (I'm on smart and I'm sure they will only have this version) on the hardware side and sammy usually have the bootloader unlocked, I expect this one to be the same while the Z1 will have it locked and I will lose a lot of the built-in features for unlocking it. But the lag on my Note is a big downer for getting another sammy that I'm willing to fore go the advantage of sammy for sony.
Thanks =)
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1. with the new proc i found it snappier than the stock tw from the s4 variant. i dont usually benchmark tests since they are not that reliable but if there's one i use 3dmark (scores excellent almost above the Sony z1 line)
2. the accuracy of the screen has vastly improved from both the note 1 and 2 (which both i also own)...the pen is precise and pin point
3. touch response is excellent and the whole screen now even those at the sides of the bezel can be touched controlled as well...
i have almost all the galaxy lines of samsung and the note 3 delivers even on stock...what more if you can mod it, too much potential
ttl8me said:
Most probably your correct on the estimated launch price as Samsung will be selling the 32gb variant unlike before where they launch the 16gb for note2. Personally, I really prefer the 32gb and I'm very happy that Samsung decided to scrap the 16gb variant for note 3. Please update us on any new details with regards to launch date, venue and most especially the reservation of units.. Thanks and more power to you! :fingers-crossed:
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sure no problem...release date locally is set on the last week of september...ill be updating it as soon as i can...
Guys i have a note 2 and realy wanted to have a note 2 dual sim. But it was only on china.
Planing to upgrade to note 3 and wishing samsung could give us dual sim note 3.
http://www.gsmarena.com/dualsim_samsung_galaxy_note_3_leaks_snapdragon_800_in_charge-news-6793.php
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Thanks for the reply Jermitano. I'll be looking at this and see which one Smart offers for my plan. But the note3 looks really good right now.
Just wondering if the bootloader is locked on your device?
sent from my S3, S4 or Note2
force70 said:
Just wondering if the bootloader is locked on your device?
sent from my S3, S4 or Note2
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no resources yet for that as my device is a pre production unit and the source is probably not yet out...but knowing samsung, its definitely open...unless theyve changed their minds just for the note
rockysiccion said:
Guys i have a note 2 and realy wanted to have a note 2 dual sim. But it was only on china.
Planing to upgrade to note 3 and wishing samsung could give us dual sim note 3.
http://www.gsmarena.com/dualsim_samsung_galaxy_note_3_leaks_snapdragon_800_in_charge-news-6793.php
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samsung has no announcement for a note 3 with dual sim capabilities yet...my review unit is the snap 800 version...coming from china, hmm...smells like a clone
Guys meron na sa samsung robinson magnolia.
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Philippines launch date, venue, price..
jermitano said:
samsung has no announcement for a note 3 with dual sim capabilities yet...my review unit is the snap 800 version...coming from china, hmm...smells like a clone
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I saw in Samsung Philippines website under their promotions tab that they have officially posted the N3 launch date, venue, pricing.. Very excited!!!!

AT&T Tab 4 8.0 Owners

Figured I'd stay a thread for those of us who have an AT&T Tab 4 SM-T337A variant. Anyone weeks have one? What are your thoughts? I'll probably post some in the coming days as I use it more.
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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bl2128 said:
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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Actually, I didn't have the vibrate function on the tab 3 and was didsappointed. I was happy to have one on the 4, but I have no idea why I would need it now. I would have rather seen that left out too. I'm really hoping to a root exploit soon so I can tinker with this one at least. I didn't really pay attention to the camera because I really don't use it. I really only use my tab for streaming music and poking around on the interwebs.
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Essentially, what Samsung said to us is "Here is the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor and a vibrator, but we downgraded the speakers and camera and got rid of auto brightness."
This sounds absurd when you put it that way. I would have preferred "Here's the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor, but we had to get rid of the IR blaster and continue to leave out a vibrator." To me, that sounds much more reasonable.
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oldblue910 said:
The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
mrksbrd said:
From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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Yeah, the AT&T version's stock ROM definitely has some performance issues. Hopefully they'll get rectified with the first system update, whenever that happens.
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Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
mrksbrd said:
Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=34969
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update ?
Repeated from another post.. appropriate here as well
LTE Tab 4 models have Kids Mode removed
I spoke to Samsung Telecommunications US headquarters this week out of frustration of not having the Kids Mode App on our two new AT&T LTE Samsung Tab 4 devices and have confirmed that all LTE models have had the Kids Mode feature removed from their devices. And, the most frustrating thing is actually on Samsung's own website for the individual, specific LTE models which lists the Kids Mode feature as a key selling point. And yes, the first thing people say is: "Have you checked for the latest updates (Android & Samsung.) And, the answer is yes. I have confirmed this removal with Samsung and notified them that this is indeed a huge problem. Maybe not so much for me or for you who may thrive off all things tech, but for the grandparent or parent buying this for their child with the sole purpose of using this key selling feature to help protect their child. Their frustration and discomfort in trying to use what they've been sold and not being able to will only push them away from Samsung or other Android devices. It is a disservice to both the Samsung and Android names as well as to the customer. And it makes us maybe reflect on what we can learn from apple (which pains me to say): when they advertise a feature, it does work on their devices especially on the new ones and even more so on a product listed to have the feature. It's both disappointing and embarrassing to see as both a Samsung and Android supporter.
And one more thing that pains me as an AT&T employee, which I am but not in mobility, that must be said!.. Samsung and AT&T have thought of our kids protection and replaced the Kids Mode with another app. FAMIGO!.. which is a PAID subscription of $4.99 a month to protect your Child!! THINKING of this even more gets me so infuriated!! What an absolute disservice and embarrassment!!
Can anyone get the Kids Mode AK ported from the WiFi version so we can use it on this device?
pre4speed said:
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update
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Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
ayekonify said:
Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
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I thought all had seen. Sorry. No chance of recovery. Locked bootloader+little developer interest=no safestrap or other custom recovery.
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
superp32 said:
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
pre4speed said:
When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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IKR tht feeling when you think you bricked but actually its just normal haha ;D i still get always scared sh*t out of me because ive had bad luck with odin flashes 4 times... I hate reflashing stock and install all apps and accounts again... almost 10 hours job...
It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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Out of curiosity without safestrap for this device, how do you plan on flashing another ROM to this phone since the bootloader is locked and visa vi no custom recovery?
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Has anyone figured out how to enable voice calls on the SM-T337A? I've rooted with Towelroot and tried to update the modem.bin file with the one for SM-T337T. No luck. Advance thanks.

Should I wait?

I'm die for an upgrade and my note 2 recently decided to become a paper weight. So in back on my s3.
So, is the s6 worth waiting for to look at or should I just get the note 4? I like the size of the note obviously but I see it can't be rooted yet (or ever). The s6 seems nice but I don't like the non removable battery and no sd slot.
So what's your guys opinion? (I'm on Verizon if that makes any difference)
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I(I'm on Verizon if that makes any difference)
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Yeah, that makes a metric sh!tton of difference. Verizon is notorious for being unfriendly towards developers/hacking, particularly with Samsung phones. Locked bootloaders, impossible root, etc. They're pulling this crap on the S5 and Note 4, so you can be damned well assured their S6 will forever remain a locked, bloatware ridden, obnoxious hunkajunk that needs to update NFL Mobile very other goddamed frigging day. The Note 4 won't be any different.
If you want freedom, go with T-Mobile. Unlocked bootloaders (mostly, not always) and/or rootable, and always the option of carrier unlocked phones. AT&T has better coverage though, and unlocked GSM phones will work on their networks too, but their plans aren't as good as T-Mobile's. Depends on what you need: better coverage or better value.
I used to flash a new Rom at least once a week and try put everything on my droid x and s3. Once I got my note 2 I slowed down a lot since the performance was pretty good. I just found a Rom that worked and stuck with it for the most part.
Unfortunately the only other carrier that gets halfway decent service where I'm at 99% of the time is at&t. So its between those 2. And I already have 3 lines on Verizon so I might as well stick with them.
The the note 4 root bounty is up over $16,000 which is crazy so I think eventually we'll see root for it, at least i hope.
I am still torn between the two phones though.
Lets just assume both will stay locked and not rooted, which do you feel would be the better choice
Well ill be getting a note 4 tomorrow. Best but has it for $199 so that basically set the deal for me.
I played around with my fathers note 3 and forgot how much I liked the big screen of the note.
And the above post made me realize that the chances of the s6 being unlockable and rootable are slim to none I might as well just get the note.
I considered the nexus 6, but the non removable battery and no sd card is a deal breaker. Plus I honestly never really could like pure vanilla android for more than a few days. Call me crazy but I actually like touchwiz.
I'm posting from my note 4. It's very nice and will definitely work for what I wanted.
They had a s6 there and I handled both. I just felt that I would regret not getting the bigger screen.
Now to just hope for root for ad block. But for now the work around for no root ad block will work.
Other than that, I disabled all the bloat I could and it's extremely lag free and a smooth feel (just like the "clean rom" touchwiz I ran on my last 2 galaxy phones.
droidx2.3.3 said:
I'm die for an upgrade and my note 2 recently decided to become a paper weight. So in back on my s3.
So, is the s6 worth waiting for to look at or should I just get the note 4? I like the size of the note obviously but I see it can't be rooted yet (or ever). The s6 seems nice but I don't like the non removable battery and no sd slot.
So what's your guys opinion? (I'm on Verizon if that makes any difference)
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are you under contract? or can you upgrade right now?
I was (and still am) under the 2 year contract. I was eligible for upgrade last month.
I bought the note 4 today. So far so good. Only thing I miss is the root access for ad block and titanium back up.
But I'm overcoming that slowly haha

Happy with your Note 5?

I currently have the Verizon Note Edge and I really don't like the performance. I would classify it as the second worst phone that I've owned. Behind only to the infamous Sprint Nexus 4. At any rate, I am contemplating moving from Verizon back to Sprint so I can: #1 get away from my Edge that I still owe $500 on, and #2 return to the rooting scene which I sorely miss, and #3 to save around $85/month. I would like to know if you users of the new Note 5 are happy? I have owned all the Note series' up until now, so I would like to stick with them (just never the Note Edge again) LOL... If you have rooted or unlocked your N5, is it so-far so-good?
Thanks!
I've been pretty happy with it so far. A few bugs here and there I'm ironing out but I'm liking it.
Im very unhappy with sprint and this note 5. Wth, i cant talk and surf the net at the same time! So much for multitasking. Ok so what if i can use wifi and call....if you're not at home or nowhere near wifi then your s.o.l! If im using gps and a call comes in, guess what...you loose data connection which in turns loose navigation. How can someone truly multitask if on a phone call and you need to look up something....hey jim, let me call you right back, i cant talk and search the web at the same time, but im cool because I have a note 5...wtf. oh well
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Calm yourself. Use Google Hangouts for calling over LTE Keep your same number.
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elcidroyale said:
Calm yourself. Use Google Hangouts for calling over LTE Keep your same number.
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Im cool, i figured it out earlier but even still.
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Can I modify this question specifically to those who had the Note 4?
My Note 4 failed last week, Sprint TEP is replacing it with a Note 5. I grabbed a Note 4 at Best Buy for $1 and am going to choose one and sell the other.
Right now I am weighing the benefit of removable SD card and Battery (which I love about the N4) vs 33% more RAM and incremental upgrades on everything in the N5 (Camera, processor, software, etc).
Has anyone upgraded and wish they haven't? Or did the N5 make you forget your N4?
mrquaid said:
Can I modify this question specifically to those who had the Note 4?
My Note 4 failed last week, Sprint TEP is replacing it with a Note 5. I grabbed a Note 4 at Best Buy for $1 and am going to choose one and sell the other.
Right now I am weighing the benefit of removable SD card and Battery (which I love about the N4) vs 33% more RAM and incremental upgrades on everything in the N5 (Camera, processor, software, etc).
Has anyone upgraded and wish they haven't? Or did the N5 make you forget your N4?
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I upgraded to Note 5 last week from a Note 4. Honestly, the no SD card and no removable battery ( I have 7 batteries ), was a big deal for me. But I have been really happy with the Note 5. I get about 10- 12 hours on my battery, 3 hours screen time. I have learned to use Google Photos now, so don't store too many pictures on my phone now. The camera is awesome. No lag whatsoever. I use Nova Launcher with a custom Icon pack.
I have always rooted my phones, and this will be the first phone I do not feel the need to root. One week in and I have been very happy.
So happy, that last night I listed my Note 4 on Swappa and sold it this morning.
Hope that helps!
Note 5 kicks ass... Not prefect but a great phone so far and I've had it since launch

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