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[Q] Galaxy note or Galaxy S2

Am currently using HTC HD2 but now I want to buy a new phone.
Am confused big time between S2 & Note. (bigger phone size is not an issue).
Am looking for good hardware with features. I will be using the phone atleast 3yrs after buying it. It should be worthy like my HD2. Am not impressed with S3 & so its not on my list.
What you guys suggest, or any other phone?

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pankitbarot said:
Am currently using HTC HD2 but now I want to buy a new phone.
Am confused big time between S2 & Note. (bigger phone size is not an issue).
Am looking for good hardware with features. I will be using the phone atleast 3yrs after buying it. It should be worthy like my HD2. Am not impressed with S3 & so its not on my list.
What you guys suggest, or any other phone?
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my suggestion just go for nexus, looking at your phone cycle (every 3 years or so . .) nexus will be a right choise youll get direct update from google and always the newest feature. unlocked galaxy nexus is the best choise for now.

parental92 said:
my suggestion just go for nexus, looking at your phone cycle (every 3 years or so . .) nexus will be a right choise youll get direct update from google and always the newest feature. unlocked galaxy nexus is the best choise for now.
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but its still not available in india. i searched it on samsung india website but its due to come here

Out of those 2 clear choice the Note.
It's a unique device, still got great development going on. Much more real screen estate, S-Pen, just as good as the SGS2. If size is not an issue get the Note. I've played with it many times and it's lovely, a lot of guys that I have come across I've asked them how they like it and they say they love it.
Again both phones are old now, SGS2 is older so if you plan to use it for 3 years you may see no official updates in the next couple of years but devs will continue to work on them.

nikzDHD said:
Out of those 2 clear choice the Note.
It's a unique device, still got great development going on. Much more real screen estate, S-Pen, just as good as the SGS2. If size is not an issue get the Note. I've played with it many times and it's lovely, a lot of guys that I have come across I've asked them how they like it and they say they love it.
Again both phones are old now, SGS2 is older so if you plan to use it for 3 years you may see no official updates in the next couple of years but devs will continue to work on them.
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does note supports all HD games as well, i hv heard NFS & few games hv trouble on note graphics.
but anyways am looking forward on buying note. thnx

why not a sony?
The S and P Modells are really good.
But well the question was the S2 or Note... I would say the same as nikzDHD take the Note if the size isnt an issue.

If u can wait for the note 2 it will be the best choice :good:

I would recommend galaxy note,it has a bigger screen and it has a s pen

note 2
alain00795 said:
If u can wait for the note 2 it will be the best choice :good:
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Note2 ???
When is it launching, haven't heard anything yet about it.

I have a friend who has a note. He said nothing compares to it. Also the screen is a huge transition from any other smartphone BUT it does fit in your pocket
Def recommend the Note because it has great specs and Samsung's UI is very consumer friendly.

Note for sure if it nit to big for you, for me is to big, like tab is..
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alain00795 said:
If u can wait for the note 2 it will be the best choice :good:
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when is note2 getting launched ?? any idea:angel:

Waite for note 2 it has 5.5 display and quad core cpu (or dual core a15)
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if you wear big bag, buy a note

LG G Pro 2 Hands-On !! ur thought?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEc9bYgEDQM

Will be my next phone. I like the under dogs and LG has come a long way from their crappy optimus devices. Tired of Sammy anymore and their ways. Ready for a change. Love how you can make the screen smaller, awesome!
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Wow really nice .... May replace my note 3 with this ...
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Looks great except for the on screen buttons. Glad they included ext sd support though.
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anybody seen this ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-UNLOC...1280165681?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c3cdc7731
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECOMOBILE...=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222002&algo=SIC
what do you guys think ? ! will it work in UK ? and has anybody bought a phone from Korea over the net ? always wonder if you would actually get the goods ? :good:

Looks like it works on bands 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8 - So it should be good for EE's current network in the UK (bands 3 and 7) and Three's (band 3), but not band 20 used currently by O2 and Vodafone. To confuse matters further, EE also own bandwidth on band 20, while Vodafone own bandwidth on band 7.
Long and short - I'd wait for an international version.
strommy1966 said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-UNLOC...1280165681?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c3cdc7731
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECOMOBILE...=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222002&algo=SIC
what do you guys think ? ! will it work in UK ? and has anybody bought a phone from Korea over the net ? always wonder if you would actually get the goods ? :good:
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battletank said:
Looks like it works on bands 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8 - So it should be good for EE's current network in the UK (bands 3 and 7) and Three's (band 3), but not band 20 used currently by O2 and Vodafone. To confuse matters further, EE also own bandwidth on band 20, while Vodafone own bandwidth on band 7.
Long and short - I'd wait for an international version.
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Its good phone. The textured back however is slippery. Not a good combo. The phone feels faster than my Note 3, however in benchmarks its not as fast. The camera is x 10 better than the note 3's specially in low light.
Here's a quite unboxing of the F350S version I got from Korea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_8qSLuWc-c

Looks like an awesome phone but I'll wait for the G3.
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barondebxl said:
Looks like an awesome phone but I'll wait for the G3.
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This is gona be tough....G3, G flex or Gpro 2 lol? LG is killing me right now!
If the g3 has ext sd support that will make things easier.
Sent from my G2, Note 3 or S4

force70 said:
This is gona be tough....G3, G flex or Gpro 2 lol? LG is killing me right now!
If the g3 has ext sd support that will make things easier.
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The G3 will most likely have the better specs of all 3. And it's their flagship phone.
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I can't see what else the G3 would have over this, unless the bump up the resolution to QHD and offer a micro SD slot. Also people think this is to big of a phone. Besides that, maybe a bump in pixels on the camera to help with marketing. Besides that, don't see anything crazy. Only thing I wish this phone had, was stereo speakers like the Z2 or HTC one. That and a bigger battery. Still an amazing phone and love where you can shrink the screen for one handed use... Love it!
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I can't tell you how excited I am to hear the thoughts that this camera is not only better in low-light as well as overall than the note 3.
I am disgusted in the note 3's both auto focus and low light performance.

For me it the best device out there, but with Note 3 on the same height. Both have almost identical hardware specifications. I chose the Note 3 because of the awesome S Pen included and the software around it. I love to draw, and I'm a Draw Something 2 addict...so yeah, Note 3 was a better choice for my needs. The S Pen is incredibly accurate and the floating dot without touching the display is perfect for drawing

Bought one last week. Love it. But be careful of the 4.4.2 Ext SD access problem. If you rely on your Ext SD a lot and don''t plan to root your phone, you probably should look elsewhere or wait for a fix/update.

moviejimmy said:
Bought one last week. Love it. But be careful of the 4.4.2 Ext SD access problem. If you rely on your Ext SD a lot and don''t plan to root your phone, you probably should look elsewhere or wait for a fix/update.
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That's any phone on 4.4.2 try a app in market called folder Mount. ... But you have to be rooted
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I cant believe they are selling/updating devices with this type of issue. I would be very angry and a customer service nightmare if I dropped $700-800 on a device and had this crap happening.
Good thing im not buying another device for a few mos...they better sort this out lol
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JesseMT4G said:
I can't see what else the G3 would have over this, unless the bump up the resolution to QHD and offer a micro SD slot. Also people think this is to big of a phone. Besides that, maybe a bump in pixels on the camera to help with marketing. Besides that, don't see anything crazy. Only thing I wish this phone had, was stereo speakers like the Z2 or HTC one. That and a bigger battery. Still an amazing phone and love where you can shrink the screen for one handed use... Love it!
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Many things... A snapdragon 805, better display, newer UI, more features, better build quality, better camera. G3 can be much better.
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force70 said:
I cant believe they are selling/updating devices with this type of issue. I would be very angry and a customer service nightmare if I dropped $700-800 on a device and had this crap happening.
Good thing im not buying another device for a few mos...they better sort this out lol
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It's the policy of Google since Kitkat. Don't like it - don't buy it, that simple
Even all Galaxy like S4 or Note 3 has this "bug"
The apps can now write only to external_SD/Android/data/appname folder, but can read any files from SD. So devs must update their apps to comply

Billy Madison said:
It's the policy of Google since Kitkat. Don't like it - don't buy it, that simple
Even all Galaxy like S4 or Note 3 has this "bug"
The apps can now write only to external_SD/Android/data/appname folder, but can read any files from SD. So devs must update their apps to comply
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Im tempted to take the ota on my s4 and note 3...observe the issue then take the devices back to where I bought them (outright I may add) and demand my money back for them screwing up my device.
I bought both from rogers who is also my carrier....cant see how they could refuse..its their ota that "broke" the device lol.
This is just one small example of why I never take otas these days..the updates cause issues and take away features it seems.
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AT&T Tab 4 8.0 Owners

Figured I'd stay a thread for those of us who have an AT&T Tab 4 SM-T337A variant. Anyone weeks have one? What are your thoughts? I'll probably post some in the coming days as I use it more.

I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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bl2128 said:
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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Actually, I didn't have the vibrate function on the tab 3 and was didsappointed. I was happy to have one on the 4, but I have no idea why I would need it now. I would have rather seen that left out too. I'm really hoping to a root exploit soon so I can tinker with this one at least. I didn't really pay attention to the camera because I really don't use it. I really only use my tab for streaming music and poking around on the interwebs.
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Essentially, what Samsung said to us is "Here is the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor and a vibrator, but we downgraded the speakers and camera and got rid of auto brightness."
This sounds absurd when you put it that way. I would have preferred "Here's the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor, but we had to get rid of the IR blaster and continue to leave out a vibrator." To me, that sounds much more reasonable.
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oldblue910 said:
The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.

mrksbrd said:
From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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Yeah, the AT&T version's stock ROM definitely has some performance issues. Hopefully they'll get rectified with the first system update, whenever that happens.
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Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security

mrksbrd said:
Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=34969

I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update ?

Repeated from another post.. appropriate here as well
LTE Tab 4 models have Kids Mode removed
I spoke to Samsung Telecommunications US headquarters this week out of frustration of not having the Kids Mode App on our two new AT&T LTE Samsung Tab 4 devices and have confirmed that all LTE models have had the Kids Mode feature removed from their devices. And, the most frustrating thing is actually on Samsung's own website for the individual, specific LTE models which lists the Kids Mode feature as a key selling point. And yes, the first thing people say is: "Have you checked for the latest updates (Android & Samsung.) And, the answer is yes. I have confirmed this removal with Samsung and notified them that this is indeed a huge problem. Maybe not so much for me or for you who may thrive off all things tech, but for the grandparent or parent buying this for their child with the sole purpose of using this key selling feature to help protect their child. Their frustration and discomfort in trying to use what they've been sold and not being able to will only push them away from Samsung or other Android devices. It is a disservice to both the Samsung and Android names as well as to the customer. And it makes us maybe reflect on what we can learn from apple (which pains me to say): when they advertise a feature, it does work on their devices especially on the new ones and even more so on a product listed to have the feature. It's both disappointing and embarrassing to see as both a Samsung and Android supporter.
And one more thing that pains me as an AT&T employee, which I am but not in mobility, that must be said!.. Samsung and AT&T have thought of our kids protection and replaced the Kids Mode with another app. FAMIGO!.. which is a PAID subscription of $4.99 a month to protect your Child!! THINKING of this even more gets me so infuriated!! What an absolute disservice and embarrassment!!
Can anyone get the Kids Mode AK ported from the WiFi version so we can use it on this device?

pre4speed said:
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update
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Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...

ayekonify said:
Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
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I thought all had seen. Sorry. No chance of recovery. Locked bootloader+little developer interest=no safestrap or other custom recovery.

couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.

superp32 said:
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.

cstayton said:
I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol

pre4speed said:
When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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IKR tht feeling when you think you bricked but actually its just normal haha ;D i still get always scared sh*t out of me because ive had bad luck with odin flashes 4 times... I hate reflashing stock and install all apps and accounts again... almost 10 hours job...

It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.

goldentequila said:
It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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Out of curiosity without safestrap for this device, how do you plan on flashing another ROM to this phone since the bootloader is locked and visa vi no custom recovery?

Voice call
Has anyone figured out how to enable voice calls on the SM-T337A? I've rooted with Towelroot and tried to update the modem.bin file with the one for SM-T337T. No luck. Advance thanks.

[Q] Who wants this amazing device?

Who wants this amazing device?
Any news on availability?

Will this phone have a screen protector? how should it applied to a curved screen? and most importantly will it get an AOSP Rom? of course a proper which uses the curved screen?

I'm teetering back and forth on what to get. I'll need to see some reviews before I can make an informed decision. With that being said I'm leaning towards the Note 4 at the moment.

I want it badly !!
Worst information, that Edge will be available only in several markets. I've read on sammobile about Singapour, Korea, US, Spain and Australia.

It will be available in the US an all major carriers.
And I'm probably going to get it as long as developer support is there. Even if it's not as prevalent as established devices.
I'm a cutting edge kind of guy and this is definitely my style.

I've been waiting for this device every since the first picture was released but after finding out VR only works with the Note 4, Edge isn't for me anymore.

busab said:
I'm teetering back and forth on what to get. I'll need to see some reviews before I can make an informed decision. With that being said I'm leaning towards the Note 4 at the moment.
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Me too. I am sure there will be some good pre-launch deals but I would like to get my hands on one first to see if it's suitable, if not definitely the Note 4... but when?!!

I'm still on my Note II and I don't see any good reason to go for the Note 4, but I'd definitely consider the edge simply for it's uniqueness.
But ONLY if it gets rooted and ROM'd.
Speaking of which, someone please tell me the makers of DN3 are working on porting the Note 4's Touchwiz back to Note II! :fingers-crossed:

lrcquest said:
Who wants this amazing device?
Any news on availability?
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I want it and already preorder it on www.clove.co.uk .
The wait begins!

tossero said:
I want it and already preorder it on www.clove.co.uk .
The wait begins!
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I think I want the edge too. If nothing else if development is not there, in 6 months I'll just get something else or just live with stock . It just seems too "cutting edge" to pass up. Note 4 is great but a little something different in form would be nice for a change.

I am really leaning towards the Edge, it just looks so cool (yes I'm shallow) and 64gb memory doesn't hurt. I'm going to wait until I can play with both phones, though. I'm not in a big hurry, my Note 2 is still going strong. Rather take some time to make my choice.

I want one badly but I'm afraid Samsung won't release a Dev. Edition Edge for us Verizon guys.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to choose between a Dev. Edition Note 4 or a locked Note Edge :crying:

I want one to but it's being said around other sites that it going to cost us almost a $1000.00. What are your thoughts.

Potentially Unique and Useful Device
I too have a Note II and it is great device. I'll probably get an Edge on Sprint contract if the price is not ridiculous. If it is, I'll probably seriously consider the IPhone 6 Phablet. The Edge has the opportunity to be a truly unique device with the help of XDA Developers.

I definitely will buy one, it s soooo sexy!!
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I'm definitely buying one BUT I won't get one of the first shipment of orders, I'll wait until the xda development is established because I already know that the AT&T version will have a locked bootloader.

Note Edge
lrcquest said:
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I love the new technology. I to wonder how much support there will be for the device The fact that the powerful specs of the Note 4 are under the hood are even a more compelling reason to grab this device.

I think the Note Edge will be great, but theoretically it should slightly underperform compared with the Note 4 because a single processor will be powering 2 screens.

I will most likely buy this device... (I am a hardcore **** Galaxy Note Fan... but... but...
I will buy the Galaxy Note 4 first for sure (first day it hits the store, without doubt... same as I did with Note 2 & Note 3... got Note 1 after about 2 months it was released)... (T-Mo Version) because it will most likely have root, unlocked bootloader and all the things we all love... and... then when the Edge comes... I will wait a week or 2... as soon as I see that it can be rooted and some dev support... I will end up buying this one too... have them both coexist for a month more or less and see how things go with each device... (development support, roms, etc...) and after a month maybe 2... will finally decide who is the lucky winner... (the looser... I will sell on ebay)
that's my story...

after seeing a video review of the Note Edge, i'm not so sure about it anymore for one main reason - one handed use. because of the screen on the right side, apparently its very difficult to use with your right hand without accidentally activating and/or pressing something on that screen. I'm a heavy one-handed/right-handed user on all my phones and this is a big deal.
I guess I'll have to get used to using both hands (of course its required when it comes to using the stylus)

Will Locked Bootloader/No Root be the Norm moving forward for Samsung and T-Mobile ?

Hello guys I just wanted to get a better feel of how everyone else feels right now and in particular to the Galaxy S7 as well as s7 Edge on T-Mobile having a locked bootloader making root extremely difficult to get if not impossible. This was upsetting to me not because I wanted the S7 and S7 Edge but because this set a precedent for the Note 6 which is not yet released. I started my Journey with a Galaxy Note 2 and loved them ever since. I have very large hands so I definitely needed a large phone and I really quite liked the size and features. I then got the Note 4 and was certainly happy with it for over a year. I usually only hold onto phones for a short while but that phone did pretty much everything for me so I held onto it a while. Samsung announced the Note 5 and I decided to pass due to no more SD Card so I now needed to opt for at least 64gb and no IR blaster. So I decided I wouldn’t be getting that and would look at other options. I began my hunt and ultimately one of the few phones that met my standards was the Nexus 6P since it had a 5.7-inch screen which was Amoled and had a very good camera and I decided to try out stock Android since everyone always raves of its speed and updates. Plus, root on the 6P would be easy.
Anyway the 6P has been doing fine but the battery does leave a lot to be desired (I feel touchwiz does very well with its battery optimizations). Camera is also slightly better due to speed and manual controls as well as screen brightness. The next phone on my radar is the Note 6 but with the no root precedent I’m fairly concerned. To sum it up I feel we don’t have many 5.7 inch or larger phone options out there and was wondering what devices will you guys be looking at as Note competitors especially if the new Note 6 from, T-Mobile cant be rooted? It seems manufacturers like LG and HTC are not really coming out with Note competitors and if they do they are basterdized in some fashion (like lower specs and cameras). Just makes you wonder if they are not interested in the market.

Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.

Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...

mgbotoe said:
Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.
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This will be really sad if so. Nexus devices are fine but sometimes dont bring all the best features. If the phone is less than 5.7 inches and no Amoled its a non start for me. Liked the HTC 10 but 5.2 inch screen is no go for me lol.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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True, will be anxiously waiting.
DroidPro35 said:
Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...
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Thanks for your input. makes sense.

Note 6 will be locked down.