Hello XDA,
My name is Robert Oortwijn and I currently have a Samsung Star. So I want to get a new phone and am deciding between the S3 or Nexus 4, nothing else. I have enough money to buy one of the two
So for the last month I have been looking, searching, watching stuff regarding the S3 and Nexus 4. From comparisons to single reviews.
What I want really is to have a good phone. It will be my first Android phone and smartphone.
My closest friend got the Galaxy S3 Pebble Blue and I really like the big screen and color. What I also like is the ability to have the battery removed and extend storage. Then again I also really like the Nexus 4 for getting the latest updates and being stock Android.
Sadly my concern is this. The glass back which from my impressions breaks really fast. A 1m drop or just ticking your phone against a table will crack it. Secondly is the bit smaller size of the screen. The Nexus 4 has a 4,7 inch compared to the S3 4,8 inch. It becomes even less because of the on-screen based buttons. This trough isn't a issue. I like on-screen and S3 style buttons.
What I just can't is making a decisions. Both are amazing phones where the one has something I like and the other doesn't and vice versa.
I would like to ask XDA to give some opinions and reasons why I should pick one of these two phones.
While 16GB is in my opinion enough for apps, maybe 3 games and music? I have like 4GB of music on my PC, I do like the extra storage but then again the N4 offers stock android and such.
I hope XDA will be the one able to help me. I tried many forums but only got one responds and those weren't really helpful.
Greetings :laugh:,
Robert Oortwijn
Nexus 4
Sounds like you've already given a lot of thought about which phone you want to choose or select and you've already researched the options that each phone has. But it comes down to what's important to you. If expandable storage and removable battery is important to you or if you think you can live without it. I personally don't own either device but I know you'll get die hard fans on both sides saying that their phone is the best and why. But in the end it's really your opinion that matters because you'll be the one who has to live with the phone. I am trying to make the decision myself as to which one I would choose and I go back and forth.
Personally if you're thinking of the S4, I would opt for the NOTE II instead. I haven't heard any legitimate complaints about it. And even some people who own the N4 or S3 are trying to sell their phone and get one. Plus it has a 5.5" display!
But it really does come down to what you think is important. I too have music that I think is so important to transfer onto my storage on my phone but Google music player can sync your music on your PC to your phone. And I use spotify more than than the copied music on my phone. With spotify, @ $10 a month, you have unlimited access to virtually any artist or album out there. Albums are available on spotify the same day the CDs are released. Plus you can download playlists to your phone over wifi that you can listen to without using data.
Hope this helps.
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Personally I would go for the Nexus 4. Stock Android is important for someone like me who makes little apps.
I love samaung for all dives and i using s5302
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
How the phone looks and your preference of buttons, screen size etc. is up to you i guess.
For the GS3 the international model is hampered by Samsungs own Exynos processor and that being much harder to develop for than the Qualcomm in the US version. For instance Cyanogenmod 10.1 on the i9300 has no stable builds because of development problems.
In fact the current i9300 developers have said they will not be supporting the international GS4 as it will be such a pain.
If you are in the US then you are fine for Cyanogenmod at least, and probably most other custom ROMs.
nexus 4 is better in us.
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I have a Galaxy S3 and a good friend with the Nexus 4. My questions for you are these:
- Do you plan to use the stock OS or are you going to be using custom roms?
Despite being a little behind (and not as far behind as some phones/manufacturers) the latest Google release, Samsung's version of Jelly Bean is very nice and not wildly different. Though, for more options and control, I recently got into using custom roms. If you're going to go that route, the sd card slot is a fantastic way to save music, videos, documents, backups, and more. Also, the ability to put custom rom install zips on your external sd card means you can run a superwipe during rom installs that support it.
- Are you going to be using a phone upgrade option on your plan or signing an all new contract with your carrier?
You usually only get the contract renewal/upgrade discount every couple of years, so if you're going that route and want the Galaxy S3, I advise you wait until the GS4 comes out (if you're in the US, that's in a few weeks to a month or so depending on carrier - Verizon still hasn't said when theirs will be available, but the others are saying this month they will be taking orders). No point using your discount options on a year old phone when the new one is almost here.
- Do you want to make use of the usb host functionality (usb "on-the-go" as it's sometimes called in the marketing materials) available on many newer phones and tablets?
This allows your phone to host usb devices like thumb drives, keyboards, mouses... almost anything. All you need is a cheap adapter to go from your micro usb port to a standard female usb port (I got mine for about $5). If you want this functionality, it doesn't work on the Nexus 4 despite Google's plan to include it. LG messed it up and it doesn't work properly (a hardware problem from what I've heard). On the GS3, it works like a charm, so I always have a 32GB thumb drive in my pocket with extra videos, music, and backup data. Presumably, this will also be a feature of the Nexus 4.
If having the latest Google release of really matter to you, then go for the Nexus 4, but I think that's really it's only selling point. I know I sound like a Samsung fanboy, but it definitely is a more flexible piece of hardware. So the trade off, in my opinion, is latest Google version of Android vs. significantly more flexible hardware. Though I say wait for the Galaxy S4 anyway.
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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What this user just posted. Plus a little extra:
-Are you going to be using LTE or 3G?
The Nexus 4 does NOT support LTE, and could therefore be a deal breaker for you if you plan on using the latest speeds.
-Are you buying your device or getting a contract?
May sound like a stupid question, but the Nexus 4 comes pre-unlocked if purchased from the Play Store and could be considered "cheaper" too. But then again, you did mention price wasn't an issue. Although if you plan on switching carriers at any time and free yourself from having a contract, then the Nexus 4 does offer an unlocked device. (Unlocking the S3 would require someone with the know-how and will probably cost you a couple bucks + it is now illegal in the US).
-How willing are you to wait for the next device?
With the S4 right around the corner and the Nexus 5 leaked images and report of a release date around October 2013, do you think you can live with your current device until the next upgrade? If the answer is yes, do so!
Good luck in your next purchase, and I believe both phones will make you happy!
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I live in the Netherlands. We don't have LTE (yet) but I do know that HSPA+ is fast enough for me so LTE isn't a big problem compared to US citizens.
I'm going to get the device with a contract. 100 calls or sms with 500 mb for 20 euros for the coming 24 months.
Regarding Stock Android or ROMS I don't know. Seeing it has Stock Android I might just stick with that.
I'm not a developer either. Just a teen who want to get his first Android/Smart-phone hehe
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I am planning to buy the Samsung Infuse 4G off ebay but have few queries beforehand..
1. In order to get the maximum out of the phone, is it better to remain on stock or upgrade to any custom ROM ?
2. Through some other forum, i read that i will lose the feature rich stock camera (???) and h/w acceleration (in videos and games) if i choose to go with a custom ROM. How true is it ??
3. I see that on ebay, used Infuse go for 240-260$ while new / mint ones for 260-300$, are these prices right ?
4. If the Custom ROM here is built over a leaked official ROM then will the h/w acceleration and the stock camera still be available ?
1. From what I've been reading it's better to use a custom rom due to performance tweaks and potential battery conservation. Currently I'm using the MIUI rom and am loving it. More fluid than stock and also great themes that take advantage of the beautiful display. I've also tried Zeus, MitRa, and CM7.
2. Not entirely sure on that one, but you could check out the Android Development Forums and look at the roms. Many are based off stock and I would presume use the stock camera app, MIUI does not however.
3. I just recently purchased an infuse off ebay used for 250. It had no scratches or scuffs and came with an otterbox case and charger. So far, I have not had any problems with the phone itself. Before deciding to buy, however, I would definitely look on craigslist as well as ebay. I regret buying from ebay since I saw a one go for 240 on craigslist nearby. But, depending on the condition I've seen used go for anywhere between 200-270, while new is around 300.
4. Same as question 2, I'm not too sure. But it does seem to make sense since it's based off stock.
Just wait and get a Galaxy Note I'm sure u will get more bang for your buck
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I have to agree and say you wait and hold out for a Galaxy Note. It will be one of the 3 highest spec phones in the U.S. when its released in spring. And if your able to get it on upgrade or on a new contract, it will probably cost less than a used Infuse off eBay or c-list. That said, the time you will spend waiting will allow you to save up cash. Its also going to be lte. So you will have better speeds than our hspa + speeds. Also there's the thing about ICS upgrades. It will have it. So that's my two cents. If you are absolutely itching to get something now, do what I do and go into the ATT store every weekend for a month to fool around with phones till they don't feel new to you anymore. that should keep you for a few more months.
P.s. iPhone 5 is probably due in summer also. Its just a waiting game but at least this time you have some serious choices that are actually worth waiting for because these specs (galaxy note) are really going to be solid for at least the next 1+ years whereas our infuse really wasn't going to out spec much for longer than 6 months when it was released.
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Yes Galaxy Note is something i am too eyeing. But i do not wish to buy anything on contract as i am going to be in US only for few more months and will be then going back to my home country India where the Note is available now (in fact available for past 1-2 months) for around 30,000 Rupees (around 600 USD).
I am sure there wont be unlocked phone available in US and mostly i will have to go with the ATT branded ones. Just that i hope to get one at good price.
Btw when is the Note expected to launch in USA.
no problems with hardware acceleration on custom roms as they are modded stock rom, also market apps can do it better for video playback (dice player) if you must run an open source rom like cm7 or miui. and from what I gather the open source camera apps got as good or better than the Samsung one. the open source app might not take 8mp pics and I'm not sure about video recording but it should have much of the features that the infuse has.
I think the open global performance (3d gaming) on the Samsung based roms is better but that's about it.
then the decision making comes down to what you want/need. the infuse comes boxed with an mhl adapter for HDMI but custom gingerbread kernels don't have this feature working. this means if you want gingerbread and HDMI you are stuck with an att leak based rom and the non modded kernel for that leak. also the open source roms don't have working audio over Bluetooth but have a Bluetooth stack that supports more protocols so they support standard gaming controllers.
the things you mentioned were true on the galaxy s when open source roms came out on it, the nexus s was not nearly as feature rich as the galaxy s but with market apps and 3rd party development the differences are much less significant now.
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Yes Galaxy Note is something i am too eyeing. But i do not wish to buy anything on contract as i am going to be in US only for few more months and will be then going back to my home country India where the Note is available now (in fact available for past 1-2 months) for around 30,000 Rupees (around 600 USD).
I am sure there wont be unlocked phone available in US and mostly i will have to go with the ATT branded ones. Just that i hope to get one at good price.
Btw when is the Note expected to launch in USA.
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note is out in spring time. probably would be cutting it very close, however i will tell you right now that 600$ u.s. is pretty good for an unlocked version. and if they already have it in india then just get there, with it unlocked already--it would save time messing with root and that stuff. thats what i would do. it may come preloaded with hindi/sanscrit fonts too!
Looks like you are on tmobile if so you would not be able to get 3g/4g on an att phone just thought I would throw that out there
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Looks like you are on tmobile if so you would not be able to get 3g/4g on an att phone just thought I would throw that out there
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Yes i am on Tmobile and not getting 3G/4G is fine.
As it is i plan to use the Infuse in India when i go back.
Hey there everyone!
I have been a happy owner of a Galaxy Note 2 on Sprint since the phone launched. I truly do love the phone, and I can't find any core complaints about it, however, I find myself really craving a Nexus 4.
I have jumped into Android development with my Note 2, and have thus been finding that this powerhouse of a phone is just too unique of a device for me to develop apps for 4.1.2 + and cover a broad amount of devices and test cases. I am also not too excited about flashing any custom ROMs or anything on the Note 2 as I lose much of the native functionality (which I like). Coming from an original EVO 4G, which I flashed the hell out of, I am missing this lifestyle.
Long story short, I am looking to perhaps sell my Note 2, pick up a new 16gb Nexus 4 (when it comes available) with the proceeds, and start my PhoneGap app development on a more more suitable, and uber-current piece of hardware. Has anyone else done a similar process before? Is there anything I should look out for when trying to make this switch? Will Sprint raise hell for any reason?
If I could afford to just keep my Note 2 and buy a Nexus 4, I would, but unfortunately I am not that wealthy. I am really just looking for opinions or impressions on something like this. Also perhaps anyone's experience in doing something similar.
Cheers!
stat30fbliss said:
Hey there everyone!
I have been a happy owner of a Galaxy Note 2 on Sprint since the phone launched. I truly do love the phone, and I can't find any core complaints about it, however, I find myself really craving a Nexus 4.
I have jumped into Android development with my Note 2, and have thus been finding that this powerhouse of a phone is just too unique of a device for me to develop apps for 4.1.2 + and cover a broad amount of devices and test cases. I am also not too excited about flashing any custom ROMs or anything on the Note 2 as I lose much of the native functionality (which I like). Coming from an original EVO 4G, which I flashed the hell out of, I am missing this lifestyle.
Long story short, I am looking to perhaps sell my Note 2, pick up a new 16gb Nexus 4 (when it comes available) with the proceeds, and start my PhoneGap app development on a more more suitable, and uber-current piece of hardware. Has anyone else done a similar process before? Is there anything I should look out for when trying to make this switch? Will Sprint raise hell for any reason?
If I could afford to just keep my Note 2 and buy a Nexus 4, I would, but unfortunately I am not that wealthy. I am really just looking for opinions or impressions on something like this. Also perhaps anyone's experience in doing something similar.
Cheers!
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If u upgraded to the Note 2 and extended your contract u may be out of luck. Nexus 4 does not support CDMA bands which Sprint uses. So unless u switching to GSM then I dunno what to say aside from the fact that Note 2 to Nexus 4 is a downgrade IMO
^ I second all that.
You'd need to switch to a provider that uses SIM cards such as T-Mobile or ATT.
If development makes you happy and you're out of contract or can afford the ETF (although that might be almost as much as just buying the N4) - go for it. But I agree it's a downgrade that lacks a lot of nice features the Note II offers. It'd be a trade-off (not to mention the change of carrier).
Great points. I didn't think about being out of luck and having to switch carriers. I suppose I'll just have to keep my eyes out for a used Galaxy Nexus I can pick up for $100 or so to develop on.
The Galaxy Nexus got the 4.2 Upgrade right? I would really just like to start preparing for Android Development, and be able to have the best broad test-cases for 4.1.2 and above.
Not to mention I would like to start playing with the SPen SDK
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Great points. I didn't think about being out of luck and having to switch carriers. I suppose I'll just have to keep my eyes out for a used Galaxy Nexus I can pick up for $100 or so to develop on.
The Galaxy Nexus got the 4.2 Upgrade right? I would really just like to start preparing for Android Development, and be able to have the best broad test-cases for 4.1.2 and above.
Not to mention I would like to start playing with the SPen SDK
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Not sure if the Verizon Nexus got the update yet. Since it's carrier branded there is bloatware and also has to go through the carrier for updates. It was late in receiving 4.0.4 and also 4.1
If you are in the market for a new smartphone, this article lists some good reasons for getting a Google Nexus device
1. Stock Android
2. Always Up-to-Date
3. Carrier Unlocked
4. Developer Friendly
5. Affordable Pricing
The article has very good explanation for each of the five reasons.
"As an Android user myself, I would like Android platform to have a broad spectrum of hardware choices. However, the lack of software updates from the manufacturer and with the added bloatware apps and bad custom skins have left only one option for my future purchases: Google Nexus devices."
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Nexus devices are great. The only downside is lack of SD card support :/
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I love the nexus line but I wish they all had more internal memory, SD card support, removable batteries, and took back the lead in terms of cutting edge hardware
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If you are in the market for a new smartphone, this article lists some good reasons for getting a Google Nexus device
1. Stock Android
2. Always Up-to-Date
3. Carrier Unlocked
4. Developer Friendly
5. Affordable Pricing
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Some markets would add
6. LTE compatable
7. onboard NFC capability
Very informative thanks
And 8:
Google Nexus is better if produced by Samsung
Actually to be honest, I wanted to buy the new nexus before I got the s3 but I had the s3 in a really good price
I would say that the lack of expandable memory and cased in batteries are drawbacks however the latter not so much. Combined with unlimited Internet the lack of physical memory becomes a non issue. On one hand I hate the direction Samsung is taking. I left ios for android for one reason. Freedom. The s4 is all about s-this and s-that with no mention of android. The Samsung galaxy is becoming the iPhone. After seeing their presentation the only thing that was clear for me is that I want the next nexus. On the other hand however if there was a way for the Dropboxes and Google drives of this world to have a separate data plan, what I mean is if our clouds and remote music sites didn't count as part of our Internet consumption. An 8gig nexus would be more than enough.
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1. Stock Android
2. Always Up-to-Date
3. Carrier Unlocked
4. Developer Friendly
5. Affordable Pricing
1. I don´t get it.. are you talking to the people that will never root or flash a custom rom? On XDA?
2. What new android phone are not that here on XDA?
3. That can be fixed and many others are that default.
4. Aren´t most Android phones that?
5. Compared to what?
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1. Stock Android
2. Always Up-to-Date
3. Carrier Unlocked
4. Developer Friendly
5. Affordable Pricing
1. I don´t get it.. are you talking to the people that will never root or flash a custom rom? On XDA?
2. What new android phone are not that here on XDA?
3. That can be fixed and many others are that default.
4. Aren´t most Android phones that?
5. Compared to what?
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1. You're right about this, many people on XDA use a stock Android ROM. However
2. Some validity, but a Nexus device will be on latest firmware for YEARS to come. Just look at the Nexus S and One, both with custom ROMs.
3. Carrier phones have annoying branding (hello VZW Note 2!), unlocking costs money, bloatware
4. NO! Ever heard of HTC and hboot? Motorola's near unlockable bootloaders? The Nexus devices are extremely easy to root, just a few simple adb commands.
5. Compared to every other high end phone. $350 unlocked compared to ~$550 for unlocked iPhone 5, Galaxy S3 back when it first debuted, probable price of Galaxy S4, $600+ for more space on iPhone 5, Xperia Z, BBZ10, Droid DNA.
How could you possibly question #5? That's the biggest selling point of the Nexus 4
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I love the nexus line but I wish they all had more internal memory, SD card support, removable batteries, and took back the lead in terms of cutting edge hardware
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My Gnex has 32g internal memory, of which I've had trouble filling any more than 15 of it and justifying it, a removable battery, and was running 4.2.2 just a couple days after Google released it...
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Five reasons Will vanish in front of one reason.
NOT AFFORDABLE PRICE..
If HTC makes the next Nexus: I imagine that would send out a lot of ripples. Or if Samsung makes the next Nexus with their Exynos chipset. One thing for sure is that a Nexus device with a Qualcomm CPU is boring for us music lovers. Other than that, an unsaid reason why one would buy a Nexus device in general is the sole fact Nexus devices are always "World Phones" in the literal sense.
i wish i have nexus 4 :c
Is Motorola going to make the next Google branded phone?
After owning the Galaxy Nexus, i'll never going to buy a non-Google phone.
I have an AT&T Galaxy S5 right now, but the One Plus One seems to be the better phone. Should I make the switch? Or stick with what I have?
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jellymonster442 said:
I have an AT&T Galaxy S5 right now, but the One Plus One seems to be the better phone. Should I make the switch? Or stick with what I have?
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Personally I'll never but a mobile Samsung device again, so were I to advise you I'd drop the S5 and get the One. It's cheaper, won't have a locked bootloader and should have tremendous community support due to the affordability and CM relationship.
Of course, the last part is contingent on overall availability - hopefully that won't be an issue.
sell it and use the money to buy two OPO if you can get your hands on them. lol
Since you're on XDA we'll assume rooting and customization are important to you which pretty much makes the AT&T version of the Galaxy S5 a non-starter.
The OPO is closer in size to the Galaxy Note 3 than the S5 though, so you'd need to decide if the size is right for you to begin with.
GS5 has a great camera so that might factor into your decision too. We have yet to see any head to head image comparisons between GS5 and OPO but it's my understanding the OPO uses the same camera as the Oppo Find 7/a. I *have* seen a head to head comparison between the Find 7a and GS5 and the Samsung images were better, so it's reasonable to assume similar results may be seen with the OPO. I look forward to seeing a good shootout comparison, hopefully soon.
Since you're on AT&T it's worth noting that OPO only supports two out of AT&T's four LTE bands. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I assume the AT&T GS5 supports all 4 AT&T LTE bands, meaning it may perform better on AT&T's network in high traffic areas where those other two LTE bands are in use.
If you're eligible for a subsidized phone on contract from AT&T then the GS5 is cheaper. Otherwise at full price the OPO is cheaper.
Finally, OPO has no SD card expansion slot, the battery is not removable and it's not waterproof, so the GS5 wins in those categories too (except the lack a 32GB version of the GS5 is lame despite the SD card slot). The workarounds are to buy the 64GB OPO variant, carry a portable charger and don't drop it in the toilet. Probably not deal-breakers but still worth noting.
I don't understand
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
p51d007 said:
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
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We're not meant to understand it. You and I grew up in a different time when we learned to be content with what we had and make the most of it. We drank a simpler KoolAid.
Over the last 20+ years advertising has zombified the millenials to believe that a new version of X is what is required to be happy. You see it everywhere these days. 4 year old car? So sorry you almost paid it off, come trade it in so we can bilk your for a new one. Cell phone almost 6 months old? Rent a new one from us at a premium price!
It's the new oppression/slavery. Keep you in debt buying smartphones so that you never look up to see that they've taken your rights, your savings, away. The TV industry is now attempting to follow suite with cellphones. HD4K is here and HD8K is already being touted attempting to get folks to dump their current 1080p displays.
For once, I'm glad to be older.
p51d007 said:
Please help me understand something.
It's not just this thread, but I see multiple threads on XDA and several other sites.
"should I keep X, or switch to Y".
Does your current device work, are you happy with it, does it do everything you like?
Why would you switch then, other than fill a fixation with something newer.
I see it all the time. People replace their phones, cars, houses, because something new
comes along or "everyone" is doing it. I guess I'm old...I just don't get the narcissistic need
to be getting the newest anything all the time. Is ANYONE happy anymore?
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My current device works, but not at 100%. The USB port no longer functions so I can't hook it up to my computer. Also, my battery is giving out (dies in half a day). Otherwise, it does everything I like. So I'm shopping around for a new device. I'm just dropping by to see if it's a reasonable upgrade, or if I should wait for something else.
So people's decision to upgrade isn't always simply fixated on something being newer. People get new houses when their family outgrows their older one. People often buy themselves a nicer car when they can finally afford one after getting a better job. Plenty of reasons why people do the things they do. You shouldn't judge them for it, even if it's simply because they want something newer.
I went to the development section and it seem pretty dead there, especially for the LTE version. So here are the questions.
1. Why are they so empty, like there is no custom ROMs? Is it because the stock version is pretty good or just the lack of motivated dev?
2. Is the LTE version worth it? I mean yes it's $100 more, but only 16GB extra.
3. If I put AT&T phone sim in the LTE version, can I use it as a phone as well? If so, that sound like it worth extra to pay for LTE, than just trying to tether.
4. How is the stylus compared to something like the Galaxy Note series? I used Note 2 and 3, and their stylus is excellent. It's Wacom with pressure sensitivity after all.
1. Probably no developers with the tablet. There is also less of a need with xposed modules working. Oh, and I just bought mine a couple days ago, but I'm more of a kernel person than a firmware developer.
2. Is it worth it to you for the extra storage and mobile data?
3. No. At least not normally. You might be able via Google voice or hangouts.
4. Not as good as a note, but better than nearly all conductive styli I've tried in the best.
Gary
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The storage doesn't mean much to me. My usage of the device is a bit differ from most ppl. I currently using AT&T note 3, that read locked boot loader to you. I prefer having microSD slot to store the pictures I shot(from dSLR). And I would use stylus if I want models to sign release form. I don't mind the size as much, as I would normally carry some sort of small messenger bag. I guess I'll wait a little while to see if there is a update coming for note 3 anytime soon, or I may be looking to buy international note 4 instead.