Note 3: Jellybean or Kitkat? - Galaxy Note 3 General

Hi guys,
Just asking, do y'all prefer the Note 3 JB or KK looks? I prefer JB but can't downgrade

Honestly, KitKat was worth the plunge. The biggest reason I waited to upgrade was compatibility with certain apps like wanam xposed and they're all caught up. KitKat will, as of now, provide better battery life and increased performance. I stayed jellybean for about 2 months...and that was a month too long lol. KitKat is great imo, but really Android L shall be the real game changer. Personally, I've noticed specifically faster boot times, load times, and less scroll stuttering on KitKat. Then again, it all depends on if you're using a custom Rom too. Some jellybean roms blow some KitKat roms outta the park! But as a general rule...newer will = better

The only visual difference to me is the color of icons in status bar. From yellow to gray. Its not too big change Id say.

This_Guyse said:
Hi guys,
Just asking, do y'all prefer the Note 3 JB or KK looks? I prefer JB but can't downgrade
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I stayed on 4.3 and I do not regret it (not for looks but for stability and since I had on 4.3 everything I wanted).
I will seriously consider jumping to Lollipop at some point when that is stabilized but I don't know if I will do it without xposed and some of the other things that I have now. We'll see

you can downgrade using mobile odin as it does not touch bootloader.
u can also downgrade using custom 4.3 rom zip flashing via custom recovery.

Manjunath324 said:
you can downgrade using mobile odin as it does not touch bootloader.
u can also downgrade using custom 4.3 rom zip flashing via custom recovery.
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have you tried it? with a n9005?

I preferred JB, but I don't mind the KitKat version I'm on now so much.
Definitely NOT updating until it's Lollipop, since the newer versions break the SD workaround most apps use. (I haven't bothered to root, haven't needed it yet.)
I do miss the coloured icons in the notif bar. Call it nitpicking, but there it is.
And I don't like how the HTMLreader crashes after every 4 files. It never did that on 4.3...
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Jelly bean all the way.
KK is much more buggy than JB. I used to get better battery life using JB. Its true that KK requires lesser ram but we have 3GB to spare (spoiled child)

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[Q] Jellybean OTA for P3113?

Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Dralanmage said:
Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Official jelly bean for p3110 and p3100 is released for some regions and carrier.
So you can expect for everybody soon:thumbup:
What I find more frustrating than anything is that its been a week since the first official was released (in another region) and we (the P3113 owners) are not carrier reliant. Usually its the carrier that holds up the release of an OS, but since we don't have one, and the release from the 3110 works on our devices, why on earth is it taking so long?
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I just installed the 3110 update that's around. The only deficiency I see is that the Model Number is became GT-P3110. I might not like some of the features but I think an official 4.1.1 for 3113 will be the same.
I am not concerned about warranty issues and that might be the major reason to wait. Also, IMHO, there's nothing worth not waiting for.
Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
Do you have to be rooted to install the 3110 version of Jelly Bean on the 3113?
Im still on stock unrooted ICS..
No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
marius m said:
Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
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I don't think it is bad. I also don't think it is that much better.
FlynnErik said:
No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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I went ahead and flashed via mobile odin. It did the standard upgrade stuff but it was really unstable. My tablet would boot up with a weird visual glitch and then freeze up every couple of minutes. I had to do a factory reset and now everything works. It defaulted to french, but I was able to set it to english on the first screen. Now the only issue is that my device says it is a p3110, but I guess that's not a big deal.
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Not that I know of. However touchwiz takes more of a back seat role in this rom and I've even replaced the Samsung keyboard with the stock 4.2 keyboard... and it is awesome. I like this rom the best out of what I've used on this tablet.
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So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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Dralanmage said:
So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
ldriod said:
I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
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Yah, I tried that. I still have the lines on boot. As long as my tablet is fine, I don't really care. I can always go back and flash stock.
I guess it should go away when p3113 official comes out. Right now I'm running p3110 on a p3113.
Thanks.
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ldriod said:
Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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I keep telling you , but you fail to understand so please do some research about Android OS and firmware . There's no such thing as a pure AOSP ROM and Samsung certainly doesn't make one. Even a Nexus 7 requires device specific libraries and drivers. And removing Touchwiz won''t speed up your tablet.
Every Android ROM, CM10, Samsung, Nexus, etc. uses the Google AOSP API source code as its base, but that does nothing without a device specific Kernel, drivers, libs, etc. Understand?
The so called "Project Butter," is a series of changes incorporated into the Android kernel and API that enhances GUI performance and it is in all JB ROMs.
Here's a little tutorial to help you out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
These performance enhancements are in all JB ROMs , Samsung didn't leave it out or make it go away with touchwiz. However not all apps will take advantage of it yet. As apps are updated to JB compatibility they will perform better.

Is there really that much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.4?

I'm using Stock 4.1.2 and except 5ghz wifi isn't working am pretty happy with it.
Do the later custom roms add enough performance enhancements to warrant the effort? For me the 'proper' dpi and tablet layout of stock is highly preferred so any other layout is really not desired.
Thanks.
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84 views and not one reply......wow that would seem to suggest not a lot of difference.
Try it and see for yourself. +1 for sky high 4.1.2. It all depends what you want, I need hdmi out so Sammy Rom for me.
Good luck.
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I realise I can try it but as posted in the original question there's no point trying it if there's not a lot of difference.....and at the moment there seems little, if any, beneficial difference.
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Wow. I had good reasons to move away from the stock ROM back when I did it. But that was so long ago, I can't remember what they were specifically. I think a lot of people are in that same boat, which is why you aren't getting any responses here.
I would say that if you're happy with the stock ROM, then stick with it! The easiest upgrade you can do is to install an aftermarket launcher, like NovaLauncher or GoLauncher. You'll get a ton of features that will allow you to customize your home screen layout without having to mess with rooting and flashing ROMs and recoveries.
Tom2112 said:
Wow. I had good reasons to move away from the stock ROM back when I did it. But that was so long ago, I can't remember what they were specifically. I think a lot of people are in that same boat, which is why you aren't getting any responses here.
I would say that if you're happy with the stock ROM, then stick with it! The easiest upgrade you can do is to install an aftermarket launcher, like NovaLauncher or GoLauncher. You'll get a ton of features that will allow you to customize your home screen layout without having to mess with rooting and flashing ROMs and recoveries.
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Im on the multi window sky high 3.5 rom its very stable and im happy it does everything i want it too.
MRBR7 said:
Im on the multi window sky high 3.5 rom its very stable and im happy it does everything i want it too.
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I've installed skyhigh rom. It changend p6800 from tablet to a big phablet. And it's still 4.1.2, so why should i prefer skyhigh to stock rom!
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reza_jolie said:
I've installed skyhigh rom. It changend p6800 from tablet to a bog phablet. And it's still 4.1.2, so why should i prefer skyhigh to stock rom!
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Best for all you don't use it then after all, it's a 4.1.2 PHABLET ROM .......... what (edit: else) did you expect? .......

[INDEX] TW 4.4 Download List (7-10-14)

TouchWiz 4.4 Download List​
This is everything that can currently be flashed on the 4.4 update without bricking your device. Which is unfortunately not very much .
I will keep this up to date as much as possible. Post in this thread or PM me if you think something should be added to the list. This can include anything (roms, themes, mods, etc.) that will work for anyone with a locked bootloader using safestrap on 4.4.
Stock 4.4 VRUDNE1 rom
Unofficial Safestrap
Unofficial Safestrap Thread
Custom Roms
SUPERLITEROM
Theming and MODS
Always Nandroid before installing mods or themes, a lot of the xposed modules may cause problems.
Xposed Framework
Collection of Xposed Modules
Flash in Safestrap
Inverted themed apps - Gunthermic
Inverted themed apps - camblue
APK install
Viper4android Audio Mod
Why is it TW? shouldn't the title have KK
twistedillutions said:
Why is it TW? shouldn't the title have KK
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Sure I could put it in there.
It's because it's a TouchWiz 4.4 thread, not an AOSP 4.4 thread. I want to make sure people don't get confused. But it is the kitkat OTA.
@BadUsername thanks for this thread, I'm currently working on my girlfriend's Galaxy S3 she got so this list is helpful. I have one question, since this isn't my primary device, or rather my device at all...is Towelroot advised to gain root?
TheLastSidekick said:
@BadUsername thanks for this thread, I'm currently working on my girlfriend's Galaxy S3 she got so this list is helpful. I have one question, since this isn't my primary device, or rather my device at all...is Towelroot advised to gain root?
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Yes, towelroot is simple, safe and very fast to gain root. It is simple as just like you install an app from play store.
TheLastSidekick said:
@BadUsername thanks for this thread, I'm currently working on my girlfriend's Galaxy S3 she got so this list is helpful. I have one question, since this isn't my primary device, or rather my device at all...is Towelroot advised to gain root?
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It's currently your only option.
Hi, I have a question about my locked bootloader and baseband and what not that I can't find any answers to.
If my Verizon GS3 (SCH I535) is running a 4.3 TW rom on baseband I535VRUCML1, can I Odin back to stock, take the OTA, and then flash superliterom? (which is NE1)
Cause I know this locked bootloader is finicky about basebands. Will my baseband stay on ML1 or is there any way to change to NE1? Or any way at all for me to get 4.4 with as little touchwiz bloat as possible?
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Hi, I have a question about my locked bootloader and baseband and what not that I can't find any answers to.
If my Verizon GS3 (SCH I535) is running a 4.3 TW rom on baseband I535VRUCML1, can I Odin back to stock, take the OTA, and then flash superliterom? (which is NE1)
Cause I know this locked bootloader is finicky about basebands. Will my baseband stay on ML1 or is there any way to change to NE1? Or any way at all for me to get 4.4 with as little touchwiz bloat as possible?
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That's your only option to get kitkat, and yes that is the correct procedure.
Not sure why you'd want to do that though, you're making your phone more limited by taking the update, and you aren't gaining much in terms of functionality.
BadUsername said:
That's your only option to get kitkat, and yes that is the correct procedure.
Not sure why you'd want to do that though, you're making your phone more limited by taking the update, and you aren't gaining much in terms of functionality.
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Well you take what you can get with this locked bootloader, and there are some apps that only work with 4.4 (google camera, for example), plus bug fixes and some new features /improvements. How's it becoming more limited? (genuinely interested if you have a drawback to flashing 4.4)
Oh and can I change basebands without bricking? You were a little ambiguous.
Thanks for the advice and this thread though :good:
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Well you take what you can get with this locked bootloader, and there are some apps that only work with 4.4 (google camera, for example), plus bug fixes and some new features /improvements. How's it becoming more limited? (genuinely interested if you have a drawback to flashing 4.4)
Oh and can I change basebands without bricking? You were a little ambiguous.
Thanks for the advice and this thread though :good:
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You have a couple good points, but simply compare this thread to this thread, you'll see the difference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50115986
Again if it's not a huge deal to you, then taking the update is fine. Some users report worse battery life on 4.4, but I have no way of verifying users experience. Just remember, once you take 4.4 your rom choice immediately diminishes.
For some reason I can't post links correctly, but check that thread and look at the 4.3 download list.
keyboard
I updated and rooted to 4.4.2 KK, and really like it (except for some battery drain) and the stock keyboard. I had an old Samsung keyboard zip file (Note 2 or Note 3?) and I flashed one of those to get the numeric row on top, and now my Samsung keyboard keeps force closing. I downloaded and installed the Google Keyboard, but wondered how I can get back to my stock keyboard, or even better, how to get the keyboard I was trying to install. TIA!
Wrong thread -- Mod Delete please.
gherman222 said:
I updated and rooted to 4.4.2 KK, and really like it (except for some battery drain) and the stock keyboard. I had an old Samsung keyboard zip file (Note 2 or Note 3?) and I flashed one of those to get the numeric row on top, and now my Samsung keyboard keeps force closing. I downloaded and installed the Google Keyboard, but wondered how I can get back to my stock keyboard, or even better, how to get the keyboard I was trying to install. TIA!
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I would forget the stock keyboard and install Swiftkey. its free and it does more and better. multiple configurations, numeric keys, arrow keys, swipe if you want, ... way better.
DigitalMD said:
I would forget the stock keyboard and install Swiftkey. its free and it does more and better. multiple configurations, numeric keys, arrow keys, swipe if you want, ... way better.
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Couldn't agree more about SwiftKey. I've been a user for a few years and I still love it.
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updates?
I'm new to the SGSIII, trying to get up to speed. The phone I have is NE1 4.4.2 unrooted.
Is the PaulPizz ROM the only one missing from this list, or are their others that have popped up since this was last updated?
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I'm new to the SGSIII, trying to get up to speed. The phone I have is NE1 4.4.2 unrooted.
Is the PaulPizz ROM the only one missing from this list, or are their others that have popped up since this was last updated?
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There are only 3 roms available on the locked BootLoader for NE1 so nothing new has popped up no
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
Whst are the major differences? They look very similar to me
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I'm a new member to this forum but I've been a causal reader for a while now.
Anyway...
Thank you for starting this thread. Thought I'd give it a bump to see if there is anything new with regards to roms or customization.
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Whst are the major differences? They look very similar to me
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Its hard to name things, your best bet is to read and gather knowledge on what your looking for. For someone who constantly points people to this thread and others reading is essential to learning what you need to know
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
tkrushing said:
Whst are the major differences?
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The following information is what I have gathered by comparing the ROM's available:
The 3 ROM's choices for locked bootloader NE1 are:
Stock = all Verizon/Samsung Bloat included
PaulPizz = mostly debloated with added torch, tether, ringtones, 5x6 Launcher, AOSP style icons
Superlite = completely debloated, with tether
Specifically, PaulPizz includes the following things which are not in Superlite:
S-Voice, allsharecast, mobile print, swype, secExchange, VPN, talkback, secEmail, samsung hub, photo table, localFOTA, gmail, gmsMaps, easysettings, kies, musicfx, myVerizon, galaxy4, SPG, voice recorder, torch, kies, musicFX, sCloud, and a few other things...

ROM: Stock vs Custom

Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
Yes
zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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I've never had any issue with any ROM and I love Samsung phones but I hate touchwiz
zazazi said:
Hello, I've tried various custom lollipop roms in the past few months and they all had problems. My personal observation is that the stock rom has always been more stable and superior and that I could not see any real functionality benefit with custom roms...Perhaps prism is the best one compared to all others.
Am I the only person here who has reached this conclusion?
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You are right, if you have life out of your mobile phone then stock ROM is the best otherwise waste your life in never ending process of flashing and modding your phone......lolz. There will be a stage when you'll be happy that CM12.1 is half stable but then Android M will be out.
the stock ROM is much stable but it not so fast like custom, anyways you can try to use a custom for a while and decide what is the best for you
I also experienced that in costom always has a bugs... I using stock firmware together with Nova Launcher...
Stock here - 5.0.1 stable, smooth and fast. Don't see any point in changing.... And I used to be a big modder!
I tried cm 12.1 and returned to stock because it bored me. It didn't give me what I wanted. It's a bit overestimated. Rooting and flashing makes me addicted to phone. Never ending process. Always wanting more. Stick to original and enjoy.
Yes I agree with you till some point. Till now I have tried almost every rom out there for my 9505, but almost always I am coming back to stock. According to me and the current situation there are only two custom roms that are really providing stock stability and I have seen not a single bug, so they can be daily drivers. They are the current version of Danvdh's gpe rom (with the couple of the previous ones I had minor issues. At least after LP came out) and the second and the one where I have never experienced any single bug in no single version of it (LP or KK), and that is the TW rom from iB4stid (sadly he will not develop for 9505 anymore), goldeneye (and also goldenfinger in the time of KK). However goldeneye is almost same as stock so maybe thats why I like it.
The benefit that I see from using the goldeneye despite stock rom is that you can always use the latest rom relased but again stiching to the modem version of the operator that I am using my phone with (I do not have good experience with flashing separate modem packages), with that taking the best of both worlds. In this situation you have the modem that works best with your carrier and the latest base from samsung that has the same stability as the stock one.
Danvdh' gpe rom is good for me when I am tired from TW but again having very very stable and fast rom. Ive even have better battery life and I can say it is the snappiest rom out there. It is beyond Goldeneye regarding that criteria.
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
hi, i just bought i9505 , i want to install a custom rom but i hesitate.
Currently my i9505 is very stable and responsive with Stock rom based on lollipop 5.0.1
can you please tell me if is it a good idea to change to custom rom or not ? i want try UPSM and others mod
What is advantage if i change rom ?
is it easy to come back to stock if i decide to try custom rom ?
Thank you in advance
I've tried both custom and stock roms and I am now using a stock rom because I also own a Samsung Gear 2 Neo, which only works properly on the stock rom for now...
skezza said:
The only concern is surely that Samsung aren't going to release Android M for GS4? Just won't happen will it?
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We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
dontpannic said:
We haven't even got 5.1 yet, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
skezza said:
True, so it'll be custom ROM's from here on out then
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I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
myawan said:
I smell 5.1 stock ROM coming in a couple of months.....
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I hope so. I've already fallen in love with this phone lol.
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
myawan said:
The problem with stock lollipop rom is that it doesn't have conference call feature. That's why I am staying away.
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Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
stephendt0 said:
Why wouldn't you just use Hangouts or Skype?
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You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
myawan said:
You didn't understand what I said! I am talking about merge call feature during two calls.
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I thought I had seen that feature on Stock Lollipop? hmm, maybe not. Still, it's a niche feature (I actually work in business where conference calls are regular and we use a bridge), and as put Skype and Hangouts do it pretty well too.

Nexus 7 - 5.0.2?

My old 1st gen N7 still has 4.4.4 on it. It's downloaded 5.0.2 (so it says), but I haven't installed it. Should I? It seems there are too many reports of it slowing things down. If it's best to stay on 4.4.4, can I delete the update that it downloaded and turn off whatever checks for an update?
It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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milleniumdroid said:
It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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Thank you. Thing about those 7.0 custom ROMs is being custom, aren't they likely even leaner/faster than the stock 5.x.
Is anyone here using stock Android 5 on a Nexus 7?
milleniumdroid said:
It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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I installed Android 5, actrually 5.1.1, and the tablet is so slow now that it's unusable. Can I go back to 4? Or would a custom ROM speed it up?
Still wondering what I should do with this tablet. Just need to get it usable so I can sell it.

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