Nexus 7 - 5.0.2? - General Questions and Answers

My old 1st gen N7 still has 4.4.4 on it. It's downloaded 5.0.2 (so it says), but I haven't installed it. Should I? It seems there are too many reports of it slowing things down. If it's best to stay on 4.4.4, can I delete the update that it downloaded and turn off whatever checks for an update?

It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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milleniumdroid said:
It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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Thank you. Thing about those 7.0 custom ROMs is being custom, aren't they likely even leaner/faster than the stock 5.x.
Is anyone here using stock Android 5 on a Nexus 7?

milleniumdroid said:
It might slow it down slightly, but it is totally worth the try. Android 5.0 should run just fine on that hardware. Heck, there are even 7.0 custom roms for it!
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I installed Android 5, actrually 5.1.1, and the tablet is so slow now that it's unusable. Can I go back to 4? Or would a custom ROM speed it up?

Still wondering what I should do with this tablet. Just need to get it usable so I can sell it.

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[Q] Jellybean OTA for P3113?

Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Dralanmage said:
Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Official jelly bean for p3110 and p3100 is released for some regions and carrier.
So you can expect for everybody soon:thumbup:
What I find more frustrating than anything is that its been a week since the first official was released (in another region) and we (the P3113 owners) are not carrier reliant. Usually its the carrier that holds up the release of an OS, but since we don't have one, and the release from the 3110 works on our devices, why on earth is it taking so long?
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I just installed the 3110 update that's around. The only deficiency I see is that the Model Number is became GT-P3110. I might not like some of the features but I think an official 4.1.1 for 3113 will be the same.
I am not concerned about warranty issues and that might be the major reason to wait. Also, IMHO, there's nothing worth not waiting for.
Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
Do you have to be rooted to install the 3110 version of Jelly Bean on the 3113?
Im still on stock unrooted ICS..
No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
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I don't think it is bad. I also don't think it is that much better.
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No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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I went ahead and flashed via mobile odin. It did the standard upgrade stuff but it was really unstable. My tablet would boot up with a weird visual glitch and then freeze up every couple of minutes. I had to do a factory reset and now everything works. It defaulted to french, but I was able to set it to english on the first screen. Now the only issue is that my device says it is a p3110, but I guess that's not a big deal.
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
ldriod said:
Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Not that I know of. However touchwiz takes more of a back seat role in this rom and I've even replaced the Samsung keyboard with the stock 4.2 keyboard... and it is awesome. I like this rom the best out of what I've used on this tablet.
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So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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Dralanmage said:
So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
ldriod said:
I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
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Yah, I tried that. I still have the lines on boot. As long as my tablet is fine, I don't really care. I can always go back and flash stock.
I guess it should go away when p3113 official comes out. Right now I'm running p3110 on a p3113.
Thanks.
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ldriod said:
Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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I keep telling you , but you fail to understand so please do some research about Android OS and firmware . There's no such thing as a pure AOSP ROM and Samsung certainly doesn't make one. Even a Nexus 7 requires device specific libraries and drivers. And removing Touchwiz won''t speed up your tablet.
Every Android ROM, CM10, Samsung, Nexus, etc. uses the Google AOSP API source code as its base, but that does nothing without a device specific Kernel, drivers, libs, etc. Understand?
The so called "Project Butter," is a series of changes incorporated into the Android kernel and API that enhances GUI performance and it is in all JB ROMs.
Here's a little tutorial to help you out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
These performance enhancements are in all JB ROMs , Samsung didn't leave it out or make it go away with touchwiz. However not all apps will take advantage of it yet. As apps are updated to JB compatibility they will perform better.

Seriously, who thinks 4.2.1 is worth the aggravation?

I've read about more bricks than the last time the three little pigs got together to ward off the big bad wolf. Rampant complaints about BT interfering with Wifi; complaints about the new launcher; issues with the tab reading microsd cards (I'm not giving up my 32gb card, no thank you very much).
What I haven't seen is anyone saying, "boy, I'm really happy I flashed 4.2.1."
Would like to hear what I'm missing from folks who are glad they did the deed.
No problems as of yet for me with stock 4.2.1 . I'm more content for now than happy.
I was on Cleanrom 3.3 with a custom kernal from "CleanROM Inheritance Kernels v2.0" oc'ed to 1.6. and running TWRP 2.4.1.0 at the time.
Downloaded 4.2.1 latest firmware from asus downloads Version WW_V10.6.1.8 (ww is suitable for my tf300)
extracted the blob and flashed it with TWRP 2.4.1.0 , didnt wiped Cache or Dalvik Cache.
I'm at fully stock bootloader and firmware v10.6.1.8 now
Everything seems to work ,
Havent used the camera much but but when I did it worked fine
Bluetooth and wireless work flawlessly together, I often watch movies over wireless with bsplayer pro and bluetooth headphones .
I have the dock and both my 32gig SDcard class 10 and 32gig microSD class 10 are working.
Games maybe not as smooth when using the custom overclocked kernal . ie Beach buggy blitz , grabatron , dead trigger
I do miss the slight overclock it had , but I'll patiently wait for the next TWRP and cleanrom update
Yep I agree. Is it really worth an upgrade? I'm running one of the older versions of CROMI and I'm very happy with it. It runs flawlessly. I also use a class 10 32gb sd card which I'm am not willing to give up.
As the release of the newest version of CROMI nears, I'm on the fence as whether or not I really want to go through with the upgrade just yet. I may just decide to wait awhile and see what everyone thinks about it. Time will tell.
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I think it's worth it. This is what Android is all about. Update, customize and enjoy.
Asus TF300T, CleanROM Inheritance
It's worth it. I like it better. No hassle or aggravation here. Pure happiness.
I love 4.2.1 everything runs great and CROMI 4.0 is out and works great. I think all the things that make 4.2 is worth the upgrade if nothing else the core of android should be better.
I didn't expect the update to bring much improvements to be honest, but I find it surprisingly good. Loving the lockscreen widgets, camera and keyboard.
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Its also cool to have a version of android most others don't have yet,
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Its also cool to have a version of android most others don't have yet,
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ya thats why we 4.1 bootloder flash cm10.1 its 4.2.2 i havent had a single issue on cm10.1
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Boy, I'm really happy I flashed 4.2.1 and used it for about a week then flashed CROMI 4 last night . this update also proved that Asus is giving good after sales services and tf300t being the first non-nexus device to get 4.2. Those who got bricked are mostly people who didn't flash properly or used the wrong version of recovery or didn't full wipe ~ obviously if you used stock and locked bootloader you'll get 4.2 from OTA and have less chance if brick.
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4.2 was great until I made 2 users and now everything seems laggy. Im not sure if having 2 accounts this much stress on the cpu/ram?
Dont know if i would have flashed it if i didnt have nvflash (i need that 4.1 bootloader) but the overall experence wasnt bad, no wifi troubles at all, stock 4.2 launcher is quite smooth (my tf101 with custom 4.2 runs smoother tho )
I really enjoy the 4.2 update, almost everything works flawlessly for me. It also seems more stable and responsive that 4.1.
The only complaint I have is that since updating I no longer receive delta updates from the play store; it is driving me crazy
But all in all, I wouldn't want to go back to 4.1.
I'm doing to downgrade the bootloader to 4.1 and install CM10.1
I'm having random freezes, reboots and extreme battery drain, I tried Stock 4.2.1, CHROMI 4.0, factory reset, etc.
It works ok for some hours, then things go bad.
Before downgrading I left the microsd card out, just for curiosity, and I'm going to testing for a few hours, but I'm not going to stop using the microsd.
kaos420 said:
ya thats why we 4.1 bootloder flash cm10.1 its 4.2.2 i havent had a single issue on cm10.1
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Exactly, CM and AOKP have had 4.2.2 for a while now. Who need stock lol?

[Q] cm 11 ay good?

hello!
so i'm trying to install cyanogenmod to my nexus 5, but i have a question, is it really worth it to install cm? i'm afraid if there's any future update i won't get any, because the last time i install cm to my older phone, whenever i want to update there will be an error (status 7) that prevents me from updating it. and i'm using the installer, because i'm too scared to do it myself. and if i install it will i get the 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 version?
attallahrafii said:
hello! so i'm trying to install cyanogenmod to my nexus 5, but i have a question, is it really worth it to install cm? i'm afraid if there's any future update i won't get any, because the last time i install cm to my older phone, whenever i want to update there will be an error (status 7) that prevents me from updating it. and i'm using the installer, because i'm too scared to do it myself. and if i install it will i get the 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 version?
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I used to run CM on all my devices. It was cool and awesome on the Nexus One because it was my first experience modding, and it was a godsend when I was trying out Samsung devices and getting rid of TW and bloat. Now on my N5 I'm on stock 4.4.2 and wouldn't go back to CM. I'm rooted and don't want or need OTAs - I'm happy flashing new stock versions myself when they become available. I think CM has become less essential to modding enthusiasts who own the N5 for two reasons. The stock rom combined with Franco and Xposed allows for comparable performance enhancements and customization, and, there are lots more custom roms out there these days. So, in answer to your question, I recommend flashing the stock rom and Franco, and installing Xposed and at least Gravity Box. Then, after a week or two, see if you're still interested in CM. Believe me, with all of the flashing guides and help from members on xda, there is nothing to fear.
Test for yourself. You may like it, you may not. Only one way to find out.
Status 7 means wrong rom for your phone
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thanks for all the answers! i might try the cyanogenmod but i will reconsider it, because i'm really satisfied with my current stock rom, i'm just a bit curious about the cm 11.
attallahrafii said:
thanks for all the answers! i might try the cyanogenmod but i will reconsider it, because i'm really satisfied with my current stock rom, i'm just a bit curious about the cm 11.
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Hi! I think you will see more diference with you have a samsung or other brand smartphone... I used to have a S3 and I flashed the CM ... it's amazing how different and better it will become.. haha
but, on nexus 5, i have one now, and I'm using CM too... but not much different from STOCK... but a little bit more customizable.. I think it worth the try

My Note 3 is slower than Nexus 5!

Hello everyone,
I believe I tried everything before I start this thread.
My Note 3 lags in some apps like crazy and while scrolling in mobile websites (with JavaScript enabled). For example,
Flight24: The map in this app is very choppy and not very responsive, while its different story on my nexus 5. Its very fluid and smooth.
Cnet websites (mobile view): Also very choppy and slow in scrolling but not in the nexus 5.
Things I have tried:
- Get the latest firmware for my Note 3.
- Force 2D rendering under Dev option, clear cache as well as remove SD card.
- Factory reset
My Note 3 runs : 4.4.2 (N9005XXUGNG1)
My Nexus 5 runs: Android L M897aA-2.0.50.2.08
If you know anything that can help please do tell.
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You are Using Android L vs 4.4.2 :-/
Well, Nexus 5 has ART...and yea, he's using Android L
And don't forget Touchwiz....
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this is not the case
LaZer713 said:
You are Using Android L vs 4.4.2 :-/
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Well, Nexus 5 has ART...and yea, he's using Android L
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And don't forget Touchwiz....
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I'm pretty sure this is not the case in any of them and I will tell you why. I tested the same app FlightRadar24 on my friend S5 and wife z1 compact and they run smooth. I went back to my nexus 5 and downgraded to 4.4.4 to retest and the app runs just as smooth as on Android L.
The only thing that come to my mind is if I screwed my phone while changing firmware. Last time when I went to odin to install the firmware, I checked CP instead of AP which pretty much brick my phone. I was able to go back to download mod and install the firmware with AP checked this time and it worked.
So i'm thinking, could this be the cause of all the slow/choppiness i'm having with my note 3 or is it because of the large screen and the cpu/gpu have hard time keeping up.
BTW if anyone wants to try the app for me and reply with feedback I would appreciate it
(Flightradar24 Free), I can't post links yet
I have the paid version but this should be the same.
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You are comparing TouchWiz ROM to stock Android ROM (especially Android L, which is even more tweaked for speed!) on same chipset (apart from RAM). No wonder, that Samsung is slower.
Someguyfromhell said:
You are comparing TouchWiz ROM to stock Android ROM (especially Android L, which is even more tweaked for speed!) on same chipset (apart from RAM). No wonder, that Samsung is slower.
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My friend has S5 and its just as fast as the nexus!
Test some AOSP ROM and tell us the results. I have a unique Nope 3 on my own, in any custom recovery wiping data/cache/system is brutally slow, takes up to 5 minutes, but flashing of ROMs and copying files over USB 3 is as fast as it should be. I posted a question about it and my Nope 3 seems to be quite unique in this and I also can't go to Samsung like "wtf TWRP and CWM wipe cache very slowly!", they'll kick me outta store before I finish the sentence.
So... backup whatever you have for a ROM and test an AOSP (unless your KNOX is 0x0 and you want to keep it that way).
If the speed is the same... welcome to the club of unique Notes, only yours will be more unique than mine.
My stock note 3 is ultra fast - you must have some kind of error... Have you tried reflashing the ROM or trying a custom ROM and kernel?
Tried greenify and freezujg bloat with titanium? Those methods work for speeding up a slow phone but to be fair even when completely stock, your phone should be extremely quick.
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Test some AOSP ROM and tell us the results. I have a unique Nope 3 on my own, in any custom recovery wiping data/cache/system is brutally slow, takes up to 5 minutes, but flashing of ROMs and copying files over USB 3 is as fast as it should be. I posted a question about it and my Nope 3 seems to be quite unique in this and I also can't go to Samsung like "wtf TWRP and CWM wipe cache very slowly!", they'll kick me outta store before I finish the sentence.
So... backup whatever you have for a ROM and test an AOSP (unless your KNOX is 0x0 and you want to keep it that way).
If the speed is the same... welcome to the club of unique Notes, only yours will be more unique than mine.
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My mate who I helped flashing has the same problem. Well it works but it's slow. And his phone is stabl as a rock so I wouldn't worry about it!
Hey if its of any help I downloaded that app to my SM-N900A (quad core qualocomm) and it appears to run fine. Not sure what model of note 3 you have, probably an international? Here's a screenshot if that helps.

Note 3: Jellybean or Kitkat?

Hi guys,
Just asking, do y'all prefer the Note 3 JB or KK looks? I prefer JB but can't downgrade
Honestly, KitKat was worth the plunge. The biggest reason I waited to upgrade was compatibility with certain apps like wanam xposed and they're all caught up. KitKat will, as of now, provide better battery life and increased performance. I stayed jellybean for about 2 months...and that was a month too long lol. KitKat is great imo, but really Android L shall be the real game changer. Personally, I've noticed specifically faster boot times, load times, and less scroll stuttering on KitKat. Then again, it all depends on if you're using a custom Rom too. Some jellybean roms blow some KitKat roms outta the park! But as a general rule...newer will = better
The only visual difference to me is the color of icons in status bar. From yellow to gray. Its not too big change Id say.
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Hi guys,
Just asking, do y'all prefer the Note 3 JB or KK looks? I prefer JB but can't downgrade
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I stayed on 4.3 and I do not regret it (not for looks but for stability and since I had on 4.3 everything I wanted).
I will seriously consider jumping to Lollipop at some point when that is stabilized but I don't know if I will do it without xposed and some of the other things that I have now. We'll see
you can downgrade using mobile odin as it does not touch bootloader.
u can also downgrade using custom 4.3 rom zip flashing via custom recovery.
Manjunath324 said:
you can downgrade using mobile odin as it does not touch bootloader.
u can also downgrade using custom 4.3 rom zip flashing via custom recovery.
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have you tried it? with a n9005?
I preferred JB, but I don't mind the KitKat version I'm on now so much.
Definitely NOT updating until it's Lollipop, since the newer versions break the SD workaround most apps use. (I haven't bothered to root, haven't needed it yet.)
I do miss the coloured icons in the notif bar. Call it nitpicking, but there it is.
And I don't like how the HTMLreader crashes after every 4 files. It never did that on 4.3...
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Jelly bean all the way.
KK is much more buggy than JB. I used to get better battery life using JB. Its true that KK requires lesser ram but we have 3GB to spare (spoiled child)

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