My Note 3 is slower than Nexus 5! - Galaxy Note 3 General

Hello everyone,
I believe I tried everything before I start this thread.
My Note 3 lags in some apps like crazy and while scrolling in mobile websites (with JavaScript enabled). For example,
Flight24: The map in this app is very choppy and not very responsive, while its different story on my nexus 5. Its very fluid and smooth.
Cnet websites (mobile view): Also very choppy and slow in scrolling but not in the nexus 5.
Things I have tried:
- Get the latest firmware for my Note 3.
- Force 2D rendering under Dev option, clear cache as well as remove SD card.
- Factory reset
My Note 3 runs : 4.4.2 (N9005XXUGNG1)
My Nexus 5 runs: Android L M897aA-2.0.50.2.08
If you know anything that can help please do tell.
Regards

You are Using Android L vs 4.4.2 :-/

Well, Nexus 5 has ART...and yea, he's using Android L

And don't forget Touchwiz....
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this is not the case
LaZer713 said:
You are Using Android L vs 4.4.2 :-/
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PlutoDelic said:
Well, Nexus 5 has ART...and yea, he's using Android L
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ShadowLea said:
And don't forget Touchwiz....
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I'm pretty sure this is not the case in any of them and I will tell you why. I tested the same app FlightRadar24 on my friend S5 and wife z1 compact and they run smooth. I went back to my nexus 5 and downgraded to 4.4.4 to retest and the app runs just as smooth as on Android L.
The only thing that come to my mind is if I screwed my phone while changing firmware. Last time when I went to odin to install the firmware, I checked CP instead of AP which pretty much brick my phone. I was able to go back to download mod and install the firmware with AP checked this time and it worked.
So i'm thinking, could this be the cause of all the slow/choppiness i'm having with my note 3 or is it because of the large screen and the cpu/gpu have hard time keeping up.
BTW if anyone wants to try the app for me and reply with feedback I would appreciate it
(Flightradar24 Free), I can't post links yet
I have the paid version but this should be the same.
Regards

You are comparing TouchWiz ROM to stock Android ROM (especially Android L, which is even more tweaked for speed!) on same chipset (apart from RAM). No wonder, that Samsung is slower.

Someguyfromhell said:
You are comparing TouchWiz ROM to stock Android ROM (especially Android L, which is even more tweaked for speed!) on same chipset (apart from RAM). No wonder, that Samsung is slower.
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My friend has S5 and its just as fast as the nexus!

Test some AOSP ROM and tell us the results. I have a unique Nope 3 on my own, in any custom recovery wiping data/cache/system is brutally slow, takes up to 5 minutes, but flashing of ROMs and copying files over USB 3 is as fast as it should be. I posted a question about it and my Nope 3 seems to be quite unique in this and I also can't go to Samsung like "wtf TWRP and CWM wipe cache very slowly!", they'll kick me outta store before I finish the sentence.
So... backup whatever you have for a ROM and test an AOSP (unless your KNOX is 0x0 and you want to keep it that way).
If the speed is the same... welcome to the club of unique Notes, only yours will be more unique than mine.

My stock note 3 is ultra fast - you must have some kind of error... Have you tried reflashing the ROM or trying a custom ROM and kernel?
Tried greenify and freezujg bloat with titanium? Those methods work for speeding up a slow phone but to be fair even when completely stock, your phone should be extremely quick.
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sirobelec said:
Test some AOSP ROM and tell us the results. I have a unique Nope 3 on my own, in any custom recovery wiping data/cache/system is brutally slow, takes up to 5 minutes, but flashing of ROMs and copying files over USB 3 is as fast as it should be. I posted a question about it and my Nope 3 seems to be quite unique in this and I also can't go to Samsung like "wtf TWRP and CWM wipe cache very slowly!", they'll kick me outta store before I finish the sentence.
So... backup whatever you have for a ROM and test an AOSP (unless your KNOX is 0x0 and you want to keep it that way).
If the speed is the same... welcome to the club of unique Notes, only yours will be more unique than mine.
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My mate who I helped flashing has the same problem. Well it works but it's slow. And his phone is stabl as a rock so I wouldn't worry about it!

Hey if its of any help I downloaded that app to my SM-N900A (quad core qualocomm) and it appears to run fine. Not sure what model of note 3 you have, probably an international? Here's a screenshot if that helps.

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Samsung Galaxy 3 (i5801) Modifications?

Hello all!
I'm new here so first of all a massive hello to everyone here!
I own a Samsung Galaxy Ace and also a Samsung Galaxy 3 (Apollo GT-i5801). My Ace is fine as it is but the i5801 sucks!
Anyway basically I want to know what the best options are for the i5801... Mainly which ROM is best for it... I've seen Kyrillos is this the best ROM to go with?
My phone is currently running: ECLAIR.BVJF4 / Kernel 2.6.29 / Firmware 2.1-update1
Basically all I need to know is:
It has horrible stock apps which bug the hell out of me, in fact the Ace has these too how can you remove them?
Which ROM is best (by best I mean best features, minimal bugs, good GPS lock...)
Are there any other modifications anyone can recommend for this device?
Thanks for your time everyone! :good:
It has horrible stock apps which bug the hell out of me, in fact the Ace has these too how can you remove them?
Which ROM is best (by best I mean best features, minimal bugs, good GPS lock...)
Are there any other modifications anyone can recommend for this device?
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You have to root your phone using z4root app (search it in google) if you're on android 2.1 or superoneclick root which is a computer program if you're on android 2.2. Then after it's rooted, download an app called titanium backup, allow it root access, then press the menu button in the app, click on batch and click on uninstall system apps or something similar.
Kyrillos 9.6 is a very stable ROM, has none or very little/minimal bugs and has a good GPS lock reported by many users. I would recommend flashing Kyrillos 9.0 and updating to 9.6 as it's less hassle then rooting and adding your own modifications. After flashing Kyrillos ROM you may want to enable hybrid data2sd so search for information about that in the forum if you want to but basically, it gives you more internal memory for apps.
<<< Press the thanks button on the left if i helped xD
MicroGeek said:
You have to root your phone using z4root app (search it in google) if you're on android 2.1 or superoneclick root which is a computer program if you're on android 2.2. Then after it's rooted, download an app called titanium backup, allow it root access, then press the menu button in the app, click on batch and click on uninstall system apps or something similar.
Kyrillos 9.6 is a very stable ROM, has none or very little/minimal bugs and has a good GPS lock reported by many users. I would recommend flashing Kyrillos 9.0 and updating to 9.6 as it's less hassle then rooting and adding your own modifications. After flashing Kyrillos ROM you may want to enable hybrid data2sd so search for information about that in the forum if you want to but basically, it gives you more internal memory for apps.
<<< Press the thanks button on the left if i helped xD
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My Galaxy Ace and Galaxy 3 are both rooted but I didn't know about Titanium Backup! That is just what I needed so thank you so much for the info!!!
I will give Kyrillos 9.6 a whirl I guess
'Thanks' button pressed and i also ordered a GiffGaff sim by using your banner for my i5801 (Once i figure out how to unlock it, SGS unlock failed to do so ) I assume this will benefit you too in some way so that's another way of saying thanks :good:
Cheers!!
Thanks! Basically, when you top up £10, we both get £5 extra credit XD But bear in mind it only works in England.
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If you want to use your Galaxy 3 daily, then I highly recommend you to use stock Froyo (JPS) ROM + Fugumod v2.4 Beta 3 (or Ultra version). I've found some FC bugs in Kyrillos' ROM too and the theme works kinda slow (no offence to dev). But yes, you can still give it a try. Also, if you're interested, you can also try my ROM (Purumod, link below)...my brother been using it since last month and everything worked perfectly.
If you want to use your Galaxy 3 daily, then I highly recommend you to use stock Froyo (JPS) ROM + Fugumod v2.4 Beta 3 (or Ultra version). I've found some FC bugs in Kyrillos' ROM too and the theme works kinda slow (no offence to dev). But yes, you can still give it a try. Also, if you're interested, you can also try my ROM (Purumod, link below)...my brother been using it since last month and everything worked perfectly.
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Yeah i do want to use it near enough daily (its going to be my business mobile) To be honest the bigggest issue was the apps I thought i would have to redo the ROM and everything to get that to work but it would appear that program sorts it all out so i may not even need to flash it!
MicroGeek, What every single time i top up!? :good:
MicroGeek said:
bear in mind it only works in England.
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Good job I'm from England then :fingers-crossed:
SapphireSupport said:
Yeah i do want to use it near enough daily (its going to be my business mobile) To be honest the bigggest issue was the apps I thought i would have to redo the ROM and everything to get that to work but it would appear that program sorts it all out so i may not even need to flash it!
MicroGeek, What every single time i top up!? :good:
Good job I'm from England then :fingers-crossed:
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Just for the first time but then you can tell your friends to order and you can get extra £5's :laugh: Also, it's free calls and texts to anyone who is using giffgaff for three months when you top up £10. That offer happens every time you top up.
Anyway, back on topic, Kyrillos framework is very smooth and i'm using fugumod 2.4 :good: The only issue I have with Kyrillos is low internal memory but i don't install loads of apps so it's not to much of a problem. Also, Kyrillos ROM has quite a few unique features since he's been developing for nearly a year on his ROM so it's quite advanced whereas purumod is quite new and not as advanced but just as stable. Purumod has more internal memory without using app2sd etc. I have used both of them long term and they're both awesome. You'll have to decide yourself.
Also, about stock JPS, it's quite good as well but why use stock when we have perfectly stable froyo 2.2 ROM's with are a million times faster?
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Just for the first time but then you can tell your friends to order and you can get extra £5's :laugh: Also, it's free calls and texts to anyone who is using giffgaff for three months when you top up £10. That offer happens every time you top up.
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Awesome! Yeah I love GiffGaff! I use them on my Galaxy Ace they are excellent!
I re rooted my phone as it was flagging errors and also installed Titanium Backup and now all the dodgy apps are gone!! Its sooooo much faster now its fantastic! can't thank you enough for your info!
I also ran SGS Unlock 1.3 again on it and it successfully unlocked the phone this time (must of had a dodgy root last time?)
All ready for my new GiffGaff sim now!
Also, about stock JPS, it's quite good as well but why use stock when we have perfectly stable froyo 2.2 ROM's with are a million times faster?
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This is a interesting point... My phone is now very quick it hardly has any apps on it (which is all it needs to do, my Ace does all the cool apps n stuff) so it's really nice as is but i do like the idea of tinkering with it with other ROM's.
What other benefits are there over the stock ROM's?
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Just for the first time but then you can tell your friends to order and you can get extra £5's :laugh: Also, it's free calls and texts to anyone who is using giffgaff for three months when you top up £10. That offer happens every time you top up.
Anyway, back on topic, Kyrillos framework is very smooth and i'm using fugumod 2.4 :good: The only issue I have with Kyrillos is low internal memory but i don't install loads of apps so it's not to much of a problem. Also, Kyrillos ROM has quite a few unique features since he's been developing for nearly a year on his ROM so it's quite advanced whereas purumod is quite new and not as advanced but just as stable. Purumod has more internal memory without using app2sd etc. I have used both of them long term and they're both awesome. You'll have to decide yourself.
Also, about stock JPS, it's quite good as well but why use stock when we have perfectly stable froyo 2.2 ROM's with are a million times faster?
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Oh yes, v9.6 has the fix for the framework...but still, there are several FCs :\
@OP: I still recommend stock JPS (or JPU) ROM with Fugumod kernel

[Q] Jellybean OTA for P3113?

Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Dralanmage said:
Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Official jelly bean for p3110 and p3100 is released for some regions and carrier.
So you can expect for everybody soon:thumbup:
What I find more frustrating than anything is that its been a week since the first official was released (in another region) and we (the P3113 owners) are not carrier reliant. Usually its the carrier that holds up the release of an OS, but since we don't have one, and the release from the 3110 works on our devices, why on earth is it taking so long?
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I just installed the 3110 update that's around. The only deficiency I see is that the Model Number is became GT-P3110. I might not like some of the features but I think an official 4.1.1 for 3113 will be the same.
I am not concerned about warranty issues and that might be the major reason to wait. Also, IMHO, there's nothing worth not waiting for.
Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
Do you have to be rooted to install the 3110 version of Jelly Bean on the 3113?
Im still on stock unrooted ICS..
No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
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I don't think it is bad. I also don't think it is that much better.
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No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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I went ahead and flashed via mobile odin. It did the standard upgrade stuff but it was really unstable. My tablet would boot up with a weird visual glitch and then freeze up every couple of minutes. I had to do a factory reset and now everything works. It defaulted to french, but I was able to set it to english on the first screen. Now the only issue is that my device says it is a p3110, but I guess that's not a big deal.
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Not that I know of. However touchwiz takes more of a back seat role in this rom and I've even replaced the Samsung keyboard with the stock 4.2 keyboard... and it is awesome. I like this rom the best out of what I've used on this tablet.
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So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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Dralanmage said:
So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
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I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
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Yah, I tried that. I still have the lines on boot. As long as my tablet is fine, I don't really care. I can always go back and flash stock.
I guess it should go away when p3113 official comes out. Right now I'm running p3110 on a p3113.
Thanks.
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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I keep telling you , but you fail to understand so please do some research about Android OS and firmware . There's no such thing as a pure AOSP ROM and Samsung certainly doesn't make one. Even a Nexus 7 requires device specific libraries and drivers. And removing Touchwiz won''t speed up your tablet.
Every Android ROM, CM10, Samsung, Nexus, etc. uses the Google AOSP API source code as its base, but that does nothing without a device specific Kernel, drivers, libs, etc. Understand?
The so called "Project Butter," is a series of changes incorporated into the Android kernel and API that enhances GUI performance and it is in all JB ROMs.
Here's a little tutorial to help you out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
These performance enhancements are in all JB ROMs , Samsung didn't leave it out or make it go away with touchwiz. However not all apps will take advantage of it yet. As apps are updated to JB compatibility they will perform better.

[Q] Newcomer to all of this (Nexus S 2.3.4 to 4.1.1 issue)

Howdy all - I've just gotten a Nexus S to replace my old Xperia Play that was having many issues. I'm still a bit of a noob to the whole rooting/rom scene, and a lot of it is a bit over my head (which is frustrating for me as I'm good with technology in general).
Currently, I'm running Android 2.3.4, my build number is GTJ61, baseband version I9020AUCKE1 (don't know what all of that is important to know, but there it is).
I've tried most of the "simple" things I've found to try to force the phone to update, including the whole killing the google service, clearing the cache, etc, and the Sim Card removal trick. No dice, which is frustrating to me as I hear that the 4.1.1 update is very nice.
I'm in the middle of searching through the forums to see what I can find on this issue, but Comcast is being utterly craptastic right now and my web is simply crawling along. If anyone could give me a push in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it - I just want a nice, clean interface with good battery life and as little slowdown as possible. I know very little about flashing new roms and such but it seems like that might be my only option at this point.
I do play a few basic games (Robo Defense, Star Trader) and I use my phone heavily for texting and nutritional information (My Fitness Pal and a few other apps). Nothing too heavy, but again, i dont' know what all information is important for this
I appreciate any and all help or advice provided!
-Brian
EDIT - one thing thats had me a bit confused is the i9020a thing - does the UCKE1 at the end of mine mean I have a different version, or is all i9020a the same?
EDIT 2 - Okay, net is working a little better - found this linked from the here:
http://tech-tips-solution.blogspot.com/2012/04/samsung-nexus-s-i9020a-update-to-ics.html
Giving this a shot, hoping for the best! Still need to figure out how to go from 4.0.4 to 4.1.1
You should go in about phone settings and check for updates. On Wi-Fi. And it should ask you to updgrade. Strange thing that it didnt. There are few tutorials in general section, also in q&a you can find something usefull.
I would recommend flashing custom recovery with fastboot, than flash new bootloader in recovery and than you can put any 4.1.2 rom with no problems. also you could flash new radio if you want.
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alen1901 said:
You should go in about phone settings and check for updates. On Wi-Fi. And it should ask you to updgrade. Strange thing that it didnt. There are few tutorials in general section, also in q&a you can find something usefull.
I would recommend flashing custom recovery with fastboot, than flash new bootloader in recovery and than you can put any 4.1.2 rom with no problems. also you could flash new radio if you want.
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Yeah, kept telling me my phone was up to date (I blame AT&T myself). I've been reading through the tutorials - I have a LOT to learn heh...
Unlock it, flash custom recovery and flash Jelly Bean.
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Unlock it, flash custom recovery and flash Jelly Bean.
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I second this, sadly google does not have an update program you can install on your computer like samsung or sony have, so you can't really just plug in and update, What you can do is flash a stock 4.1.1 update to it, using the os images they release, please consult the forum guides on how to do this.
Also, I don't think your carrier will update the phone simply because they suck at these things and most likely an OTA to jb was never released.
Alternatively, just flash a custom ROM after you root, but for first timers I'd say just root and then flash a stock image.
Hope this helps.
I would also suggest flashing a custom ROM. It can be a little daunting the first time, but there are many step by step guides in here to help you along the way. Choose one of the more stable ROMs as they will have have most of the bugs all ironed out. Once you go the custom rom path, you will love it.
Just a warning, flashing is very addictive
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I found myself in the exact same situation a year or so ago when i got my nexus s. My best advice to you would be to follow the guides on the sticky threads and go with the incremental updates, just so you get the hang of all the rooting and flashing first.
2.3.4 > 2.3.6 > 4.0.4 > 4.1.1 > 4.1.2
Since you say you generally don't have issues with technology, just read 2-3 general rooting/flashing threads first and then do everything by hand. It helps.
Also, share your experience here, it might help someone else in the future
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The only thing i didn't like about flashing a custom recovery is you'd be tempted to flash ROMs and/or kernels from time to time.
We got great developers here so you cannot be satisfied with what you currently have
Hm... any recommendations for custom roms that you guys have used and found particularly good? Like I said, speed and a decent looking interface are my two main concerns
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Hm... any recommendations for custom roms that you guys have used and found particularly good? Like I said, speed and a decent looking interface are my two main concerns
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Well, one of the most popular is cyanogenmod. Which version 10 is built on 4.1.2. It's, for me, disgustingly fast, stable, lock up free and has great additions to the codebase. In fact, it's looking like I'll keep this rom for the longest I have ever done. You can also use slimbean, which I used for a time and really liked.
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Hm... any recommendations for custom roms that you guys have used and found particularly good? Like I said, speed and a decent looking interface are my two main concerns
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I would also recommend CM 10.0 (stable) is good rom to start. It is stable, fast and pretty decent battery life. I have been using it for weeks without any issues.
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Hm... any recommendations for custom roms that you guys have used and found particularly good? Like I said, speed and a decent looking interface are my two main concerns
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Mate check out Slim ROM website - this link leads directly to the Slim Android 4.1.2 for our phone (called Crespo). In addition to this file you'll need to poke around the Slim site to also download GAPPS and the AIO (all in one) file. This ROM is fast, feature packed and absolutely bug-free. Your battery will thank you
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/downloads/all/viewdownload/139-crespo/841-slim-ns-3-1-0-official

MOTO G, custom ROM = Yes or No?

I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So for now I have stayed with the standard Moto G Rom. Then tweaked it a little by doing the following.
1. Unlocked the phone
2. Rooted using TWRP (couldn't get CWM to work right)
3. Eliminated the Unlocked warning screen at start up :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548530
4. Changed the 3G data to H, H+ format :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600654
5. Installed Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvic from here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120 (thanks @drfr )
6. Installed a new Faux123 Kernel, flcon_umts-faux123-kk-005u-signed.zip from here :- http://faux.romhost.me/falcon_umts/kk44/
7. From Play store installed the xposed installer
8. From Play Store added module Gravity box (KK)
9. From Play Store added module Ringer & Notification Volume
10. Installed the Apex launcher
11. From Play Store purchased Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (couldn't find a free tool that worked!)
Result is a very stable ROM together with most of the little tweaks that I like to get from a Custom ROM. Plus everything works great. The current Antutu result is 19860.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
As far as I know, the stock rom has a lot of optimizations for the Moto G hardware. For instance, its based on F2FS which is something the GPE Moto G does not have going for it.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
I have this way of thinking too. So just going through the steps 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 10. My phone is excellent.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
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Thank you, I didn't know that, funny but I could swear that Antutu improved! I am still trying to decide if Point 6. Faux123 is really worth it. The 1.6gh/z over clocking is working and I am still getting two days of average use per charge. Can't decide either way really......
Same here, at this point, custom roms (non stock based) are non sense, since the stock is almost Aosp and updated as hell. Xposed is all you need.
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All you need is Xposed, Faux kernel and the optimized Dalvik :S
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Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
Soerdroid said:
Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48932223&postcount=430
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120
Great antutu result. Mostly due to the overclock. CM based roms doesnt have working overclock yet.
Im far away from that 19860 antutu score, any tips? I installed faux kernel and optimizers from qualcomm and cant get even close to 18000.
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grahamgo said:
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
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True. But its for now and that is because this is a brand new phone also with multiple variants like 1031/2/3
Hence creating a kind of obstruction for a successful ROM dev
Furthermore you don't just dev a ROM to get an Android update.
Its for the different features that people are looking for.
You might wanna try xposed modules.
Hell l0tta options there. Not for now but then for future.
Also then small little tweaks from other phones can be ported to this one.
There are just countless things that you can customize once you are rooted.
I had a Galaxy Ace duos CDMA which had no custom ROM.
But once I got it rooted my phone was so much better.
I had an extended internal memory with my SD card.
The bloatware that covered the small little internal memory was completely removed.
And it was so much faster and Functional with those rooted apps.
If that small little phone could do some magic with rooting.
Then this is a beast.
Half the new functionality that we get on the updates are actually the features of apps that work on rooted phones.
Wifi hotspot for an instance.
Agreed that in the current scenario its really not so useful but rooting your phone is a gift to yourself
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How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
tsimitsangaz said:
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
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Look into system/vendor/lib
Sent. Really?
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
tsimitsangaz said:
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
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You do have all those files, they are not in the same folder. Just search harder.
intellq said:
How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
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No one?
intellq said:
No one?
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Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
[ROM]Nexus G+ Build 007[4.4.2]
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Alejandrissimo said:
Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
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That rom probably won't work in my phone. I'm on an XT1033 (dual sim)
Someone with stock was able to make faux + dalvik work?

[ROM][SGH-S730M] The First Samsung Galaxy Discover S730M Custom ROM

For the first flashable stock ROM for this device CLICK HERE
UPDATED
This is the first working flashable ROM for this phone that I am aware of.
Thanks to @shifattk and @FitAmp for the overclock
Thanks to @Restl3ss, who is working on a rooted and overclocked, otherwise bone stock ROM
^^^Used boot.img from the above mentioned
Based off stock 4.0.4.
Rooted
BusyBox
Overclocked to 1000mhz
Root Browser
New Launcher
Apollo Music
Default Ringtone: Crank
Bloat Removed
Theme Changes
Zipaligned
Many more changes to come!
Stable
Working and tested.
Flashing instructions:
1. Use CWM 6.0.3.1 (get it here, flash with Odin)
2. WIPE DATA/CACHE
3. Disable signature verification (signed version to come)
4. Flash
5. Wipe Dalvik.
6. Reboot
7. After initial setup, hit menu, go into preferences, scroll down and hit restart launcher. The default preferences have been modded for great performance, but don't auto load. After launcher restart, default preferences stay permanent, you only have to do it after first boot. Or change them to whatever you see fit!
Hit thanks if you enjoy!
Download:http://d-h.st/8Ee
As always, I am not responsible for you bricking your phone. Odin is not a toy, CWM Recovery is not a toy. Installing custom ROMS is relatively easy, but if you are unsure what you are doing, do some research on XDA or Google BEFORE you start messing around. This ROM is working and running on my S730M and I have had no problems so far.
OMG!
I've been waiting so long for somebody to make a custom rom for this phone! This is the first custom rom for this phone at last! I shall try it out and get back to you my good sir.
Sweet! Thanks :laugh::good:
BopIt said:
I've been waiting so long for somebody to make a custom rom for this phone! This is the first custom rom for this phone at last! I shall try it out and get back to you my good sir.
Sweet! Thanks :laugh::good:
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Thanks! It was plagued with issues to start, just trying to get a flashable zip of the stock ROM together was a nightmare, and since there wasn't one any where on the internet to use as a base, well... had no choice but to make one. I'm going to release a non over clocked version as well. This one is still close to stock with a few mods and tweaks, so enjoy and I'll keep working away at bringing a true custom to this phone
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Good Job!
I flashed it on my Discover today and it worked flawlessly.
By the way, I didn't make the OC script. It was FitAmp, the credits should go to him.
What launcher did you use? and good job on making a working rom for it, I had been messing around with trying to cook one in the kitchen app for the SS730G. I may give that one a shot with flashing this one, the stock rom on it is having issues anyways as when I try to shut it down it reboots 9 times out of 10.
atmu5fear said:
This is the first working flashable ROM for this phone that I am aware of.
Thanks to @shifattk and @FitAmp for the overclock
Thanks to @Restl3ss, who is working on a rooted and overclocked, otherwise bone stock ROM
^^^Used boot.img from the above mentioned
Based off stock 4.0.4.
Rooted
BusyBox
Overclocked to 1000mhz
New Launcher
Apollo Music
Flappy Bird (yes the original)
Default Ringtone: Crank
Bloat Removed
Coming soon:
Deodexed
Zipaligned
Added system apps for root functions and enhanced experience (Root file explorer, Greenify, upgraded keyboard, terminal emulator, lite browser)
Many more changes to come!
Stable
Working and tested.
Flashing instructions:
1. Use CWM 6.0.3.1 (get it here, flash with Odin)
2. WIPE DATA/CACHE
3. Disable signature verification (signed version to come)
4. Flash
5. Wipe Dalvik.
6. Reboot and enjoy
Hit thanks if you enjoy!
Download: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/170099363/S730M_atmu5fear.zip
As always, I am not responsible for you bricking your phone. Odin is not a toy, CWM Recovery is not a toy. Installing custom ROMS is relatively easy, but if you are unsure what you are doing, do some research on XDA or Google BEFORE you start messing around. This ROM is working and running on my S730M and I have had no problems so far.
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doctor_evil said:
What launcher did you use? and good job on making a working rom for it, I had been messing around with trying to cook one in the kitchen app for the SS730G. I may give that one a shot with flashing this one, the stock rom on it is having issues anyways as when I try to shut it down it reboots 9 times out of 10.
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Launcher pro, the only launcher I will use since I bought my first droid, runs clean and light. There's always the option to change to whatever launcher you like, for me, on this phone, runs the smoothest and that's what I'm going for here. Many changes still to come!
Kitchen is a great tool for learning AS LONG as you take a look at every change you implement with kitchen, in the update or updater script itself. The one thing about it is, that if you fully rely on kitchen, even if it does work, you won't learn a thing. All of the changes kitchen makes, can be made in terminal and text editor (Linux) to give you some hands on experience
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atmu5fear said:
Launcher pro, the only launcher I will use since I bought my first droid, runs clean and light. There's always the option to change to whatever launcher you like, for me, on this phone, runs the smoothest and that's what I'm going for here. Many changes still to come!
Kitchen is a great tool for learning AS LONG as you take a look at every change you implement with kitchen, in the update or updater script itself. The one thing about it is, that if you fully rely on kitchen, even if it does work, you won't learn a thing. All of the changes kitchen makes, can be made in terminal and text editor (Linux) to give you some hands on experience
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I'm partial to the Nova Launcher myself, but I know what you mean. While the stock launcher is better than the standard Samsung Touchwiz crap, it definitely could use a speed increase on this phone.
I keep hoping and dreaming that someone will be able to port KitKat to this phone. I just flashed the current SlimKat rom on my Nexus S and I'm impressed with how fast the Google Now launcher performs on it. Maybe with this one overclocked to 1GHz and it having 512 megs of ram which I think is a little more than the Nexus S had it would make a different.
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I'm partial to the Nova Launcher myself, but I know what you mean. While the stock launcher is better than the standard Samsung Touchwiz crap, it definitely could use a speed increase on this phone.
I keep hoping and dreaming that someone will be able to port KitKat to this phone. I just flashed the current SlimKat rom on my Nexus S and I'm impressed with how fast the Google Now launcher performs on it. Maybe with this one overclocked to 1GHz and it having 512 megs of ram which I think is a little more than the Nexus S had it would make a different.
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Kit Kat was built to run on 512mb, from everything I've heard it utilizes memory way better than any other version yet. I'm going to look at porting ROMs to this device, but one project at a time . It should be possible though. Even if I can port a stock 4.4.2 and start customizing from there, I think this phone would benefit tremendously from it, more so then newer more powerful devices.
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Kit Kat was built to run on 512mb, from everything I've heard it utilizes memory way better than any other version yet. I'm going to look at porting ROMs to this device, but one project at a time . It should be possible though. Even if I can port a stock 4.4.2 and start customizing from there, I think this phone would benefit tremendously from it, more so then newer more powerful devices.
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I flashed my 730G with this rom, so far it looks good. I may switch the launcher to a different one but other than this it looks and appears to run fine. I can't test the radio at the moment as my net10 sim is cut down to nano size and I can't find my regular sim to nano sim adapter. I know I have one but finding it will be the fun part.
Double check the Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS etc, make sure they turn on and work. They should as they work fine on the 730m, but you never know. I haven't seen the build.prop for the G
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And check your root too. If root works than the rooting process is the same for both. Just open root browser and if it asks for superuser access you're golden. Plan to add terminal and cpu tuner in the next update.
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atmu5fear said:
Double check the Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS etc, make sure they turn on and work. They should as they work fine on the 730m, but you never know. I haven't seen the build.prop for the G
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The wi-fi and GPS appear to work fine. I still haven't been able to find my nano to regular size sim adapter. I wound up replacing launcher pro with nova launcher, and I also installed Titanium backup which I used to integrate the google keyboard. After I switched over to it, I froze the samsung keyboard which was a pain in the ass to have to work with. You may want to look into switching the keyboard if you have a preference in a future release. I really like the google keyboard myself.
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The wi-fi and GPS appear to work fine. I still haven't been able to find my nano to regular size sim adapter. I wound up replacing launcher pro with nova launcher, and I also installed Titanium backup which I used to integrate the google keyboard. After I switched over to it, I froze the samsung keyboard which was a pain in the ass to have to work with. You may want to look into switching the keyboard if you have a preference in a future release. I really like the google keyboard myself.
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I've considered switching the default launcher to nova, or I should say I've tried to. I've had issues with everything I've tried, except launcher pro, and lightning launcher. Lighting launcher is actually extremely fast and lightweight, I think the app itself is less the a MB, but its far different than your standard, familiar style of launcher so I opted out. I've tried solo, which is nearly identical to nova, except there's no pro version, all "pro" features are entirely free. I've also tried KK launcher, again very similar to nova, but all three of them will not load after the initial setup screen. Just don't work well as system apps. Loading them into the data partition should solve this problem, but they install with a file size of 0 MB, and again, won't actually load. All of them work fine when installed from the market, or from an apk, just haven't had luck packaging them with the ROM. I'll look into the keyboard thing. I prefer Swype, but given it's a paid app, I can't really incorporate it, and I don't want to just include a 30 day trial app in the ROM. I'll keep plucking away at it tho. Thanks a ton for your input
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ok I just wiped it and went thru setup, it worked with no issues with the samsung keyboard and the nova launcher as system apps. maybe this will help for customizing the rom further? Also it might be a good idea to remove the updater app just to be safe. While I don't think that they would ever push out a rom update for the samsung S730M or S730G it might cause issues if someone who didn't know better used the updater app and downloaded a rom update. It may not be an issue, but I figured it was worth mentioning
I wanted to give an update. I was able to successfully use your rom as a base to make my own custom rom. I had to extract the updater script binary from yours to drop into the appropriate folder in my working folder. I'm going to do a little more fine tuning on what apps I want to include but I should have it ready to share soon.
Also, I finally found my adapter so I was able to read my Net10 sim in my S730G, other than it not having the correct APN which I had to manually enter It worked with no problems once I setup the APN, full signal and no issues with downloading anything once the APN was setup.
OK I've finished the 1.0 version of my rom. it can be found here
Thanks but
before I flash this I want to know if anyone knows where I can download the odin flashable stock firmware for this device. So glad that this is out though but this phone is only 4 months old for me still got 8 months for something to go horribly wrong with it
Thanks! Overall OK.
sixty_oz said:
before I flash this I want to know if anyone knows where I can download the odin flashable stock firmware for this device. So glad that this is out though but this phone is only 4 months old for me still got 8 months for something to go horribly wrong with it
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There is no Odin flashable ROM for this phone. I do have there stock flashable zips tho. Worst case scenario, you Odin flash recovery, then flash the stock zip via cwm. I've been working on CM 9, and have not been able to get it to work, but no matter how many times I've flashed it, I can always flash back to stock via recovery, haven't bricked yet
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following!
I'm new to flashing in general so I am just learning what the process entails, but I just put CM11 onto an N7 '13 and I am very impressed with what people are doing. I also have a sluggish Samsung Discover so I'm very interested in how this work proceeds!
Best of luck everyone and thank you Atmu5fear, hopefully I can share my experience soon as well.

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