I can't find the magnetic sensor of sensor. I tried entering the service menu and perform hall element test but can't find the hall element. Tried hovering magnet around the device but no luck of finding it
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I received a new phone as mine came without a Bluetooth module...unbelievably they just did not buikd it into the phone. So I wouldn't be surprised if they missed out important parts in your phone.
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What do you mean? You don't have bluetooth? Seriously?
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I received a new phone as mine came without a Bluetooth module...unbelievably they just did not buikd it into the phone. So I wouldn't be surprised if they missed out important parts in your phone.
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This really is unbelievable. Have you got this in written form? Or did somebody tell you that's what happened?
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This really is unbelievable. Have you got this in written form? Or did somebody tell you that's what happened?
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I got a new Z3, but after checking it's flaps and dunking it in water (as a demo to a friend who owns an iPhone!) it developed major issues such as the vibrator that didn't stop buzzing even when the phone was off, the phone at first wouldn't switch off and the gyroscope stopped working - after checking the water sensor I saw one had been triggered so the phone was leaking water at the flap.
It was exchanged for me as it was a week old.
Then the second phone wouldn't charge on the magnetic port so I called my phone company, as I was just out of the initial two week period they did not want to exchange it again and so the phone had to be sent to Sony.
8 days of forced technology detox later I got a new phone, because the phone was too new so they didn't have spare parts yet to fix it at SBE, which are Sony's official contractors.
I followed my repair through the website regularly and at one point it said fault: "no Bluetooth module" which isn't even the fault I sent it in for!
I've tried logging in, but I've received a new phone a week ago now so I can't log into my repair anymore and the documents don't list the fault, it only says 'replaced phone with reconditioned phone'.
Oh and now my new phone has no noticeable gap that is mentioned here, but it has ugly light bleed at the bottom left hand corner.
My Z1 also had to be sent in twice to Sony, once for a back that cracked spontaneously on a desk and once because the rubber flap covering the ports wore out after just 6 months and the door couldn't stay closed...
So it annoys me deeply when reviewers talk about Sony's amazing build quality. They use premium materials yes, but sadly the build quality is not premium.
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Now does anyone of us here know how the official cover window of thebZ3 works? I suppose it works with the magnetic sensors just like in other phones (eg. S5, NEXUS 7 2013, and even the Tablet Z). Maybe someone of us here is able to point out of if this sensor has magnetic sensor or not.
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To me, who didn't believe that sony had forgotten to put a bluetooth unit in your phone, the important part of this anecdote is
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I don't think this means that they initially had forgotten the Bluetooth.
Other than that: sorry to hear that you're having bad luck with your phones. There's hundred of millions of satisfied Sony customers, and some ten thousand unlucky and unhappy ones. I'm not affiliated with Sony, I just don't like generalizations.
The sad fact is that I'm a total, smitten Sony fanboy. I have always had Sony MP3 and minidisc players , since 2002 actually, when the iPod was just a baby, Sony cameras snd Sony TV's.
Back in the day it was because I preferred the SQ or the picture quality to what Apple or other manufacturers offered.
Now it's just because I love the brand, UI and and in all honesty the main draw for me is the Walkman app and Sony's EQ settings, which in my opinion are streets ahead of any other phone's. You can actually crank up the bass to 10 with zero distortion, if you should choose to.
So Sony has me by the short and curlies and that is why I feel that I speak with a sort of authority, from hard earned experience.
There are countless build issues with their phones. From backs that crack, to screens that crack - both spontaneously, the latter was picked up by the BBC's Watchdog programme, after many customers were angry at Sony 's denial of the problem.
We have misaligned screens, units that aren't waterproofed, flap doors that mysteriously disappear, speaker grilles that fall off (Z1) and unsightly light bleed among scores of issues being mentioned in these forums.
We have come a long way since Sony meant 'Made in Japan' a decade or two ago. It contrasted sharply with the 'Made in China' stamp that almost always denoted an inferior quality.
Times and technology have moved on and nowadays everything is made in China... and it shows.
So I'm not generalising when I'm saying that the build quality of the Z3 is not as premium as it should be. I've had countless problems and these forums tell the stories of many, many others.
It is just my opinion, but I don't feel that I'm generalising. I'm merely taking into account all the issues that I have had, other people are having and comparing that to the price and materials of the phone and then arriving at a situation where in too many cases, they just don't match up...
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Johann_London said:
There are countless build issues with their phones. From backs that crack, to screens that crack - both spontaneously, the latter was picked up by the BBC's Watchdog programme, after many customers were angry at Sony 's denial of the problem.
We have misaligned screens, units that aren't waterproofed, flap doors that mysteriously disappear, speaker grilles that fall off (Z1) and unsightly light bleed among scores of issues being mentioned in these forums.
We have come a long way since Sony meant 'Made in Japan' a decade or two ago. It contrasted sharply with the 'Made in China' stamp that almost always denoted an inferior quality.
Times and technology have moved on and nowadays everything is made in China... and it shows.
So I'm not generalising when I'm saying that the build quality of the Z3 is not as premium as it should be. I've had countless problems and these forums tell the stories of many, many others.
It is just my opinion, but I don't feel that I'm generalising. I'm merely taking into account all the issues that I have had, other people are having and comparing that to the price and materials of the phone and then arriving at a situation where in too many cases, they just don't match up...
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My Z3 is perfect in every way. No bleed, magic self-cracking glass, things falling off, whatever. You can pick a few examples from people posting here how have problems, or have read other people complaining, but it's more or less meaningless; this time next year there'll be 20,000,000 or whatever xperia z3s sold, and a few thousand with problems, just like every other mass produced product. We've just had a week of crap about baidu spyware from people who don't know what the **** they're talking about. Everyone's an expert these days, aren't they? "Made in Japan" used to mean "piece of crap", then they improved. Sure, most crap is made in china, but they're improving too - not everything made there is crap. After them it'll be somewhere else.
If you want a Z3, buy a Z3. You won't be disappointed. And if you manage to explain how glass just breaks by itself when it's close to a Z3, there's probably a physics prize in it for you somewhere, because glass is rather a stable, well understood substance, and I can't imagine how you'd engineer this to happen even if you wanted to, never mind if you'd strengthened it with Gorilla glass.
No offence, but you are in denial. Have a look at these forums, some guys had to open 6 boxes in the store to find a Z3 without gaps and light bleed!! Have a look at the gap thread.
You were lucky with your phone.
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No offence, but you are in denial. Have a look at these forums, some guys had to open 6 boxes in the store to find a Z3 without gaps and light bleed!! Have a look at the gap thread.
You were lucky with your phone.
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None taken, because i'm confident the facts are on my side.
You're missing the point. I'm not lucky - they're unlucky. If 99.9% of Z3s manufactured were faulty, then I'd be lucky to get a working one. You'd be crazy to assume that high a percentage of them are faulty, though, and nothing I've read suggests this is the case.
Assuming "some guy on the internet" actually had to open 6 boxes, it just suggests a localised bad batch. Google for "confirmation bias". Sure, it's annoying if it happens to you, but statistically it won't.
Guys this thread is not about you arguing the build quality. I MADE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS THE MAGNETIC SENSOR. If you want to fight do it somewhere else. If we will be talking stuffs here and your complain then moderator please just close this thread.
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Guys this thread is not about you arguing the build quality. I MADE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS THE MAGNETIC SENSOR. If you want to fight do it somewhere else. If we will be talking stuffs here and your complain then moderator please just close this thread.
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So what is the latest on this? Could you not have an exchange? It sounds like your handset is faulty...
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I can't because bought this at a gray market supplier. They refuse exchange here because they said there's no wrong with it. But i would also like to confirm also if there's really a magnetic sensor in this.
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I can't because bought this at a gray market supplier. They refuse exchange here because they said there's no wrong with it. But i would also like to confirm also if there's really a magnetic sensor in this.
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OK... Exactly what magnetic sensor are u talking about? I know only of the magnetic charger...
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OK... Exactly what magnetic sensor are u talking about? I know only of the magnetic charger...
The one that makes the screen turn off when you use a cover like the official cover. Just like the Z tablet, Z2, Z2 tablet
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Any progress with finding the alleged "hall element" ? ...
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Any progress with finding the alleged "hall element" ? ...
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I can't find it really
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mine is located on the top right of my screen holding it vertically. I can get it to turn on the screen, but not turn it off. hoping someone more capable than me comes up with a nice way to modify its behavior.
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Ok, so here's an update [and more in depth review now that I've had them for a while] on my Zagg Smartbuds...
The short answer, I LOVE 'EM!
Now, for those w/larger attention spans, let's get into the dirt.
Let me start off by saying, I haven't found anything I don't like about them, well, the lack of a physical manual to explain how to operate it. Although, really, w/a single button and a volume slider, it didn't take to much to figure it out quickly:the slider is self explanatory and the button, well 1 click =pause/stop a quick double click=skip track.
Ok, bringing up the slider does bring up a minor annoyance, it is VERY sensitive! I've had it brush my shirt and either crank up or go silent a few times. AND a little movement goes a long way as well.
The main [only] music app I've been using since I rcvd my Smartbuds is the Google Music beta, just to get all my cards on the table. I bring this up because, if I pause the music from my earbuds for more than a few minutes, I can't restart it. The program shuts down, some sort of auto shut off that I can't find an option to disable. Off topic, but annoying none the less.
My favorite thing about these buds are the [line]sliders. There are 3, 1 below the volume slider 1 between the slider and the music control/mic and 1 below the ear buds. These are great because they allow you to create a loop to slip over your head so the weight of the cord isn't always pulling on the ear buds. Really nice for my job and for running.
The sound is crystal clear and the bass is solid. It's not going to shake your eyeballs, but for good quality bass, it's solid!
They also came w/multiple [5 total] ear buds to customize the fit. I know this is standard, but the most I ever got were w/my skullcandy's, and that was 3 total.
The cable is a pretty nice construct as well. They call it a tangle free cord and that's pretty accurate. There are multiple colors, meh, I guess I'mm happy, I went metal as opposed to black or [I think] red.
Now, these aren't advertised as water resistant. I was worried about issues due to sweat. I work outside in Oklahoma and we've already had a few triple digit days, so it's safe to say, I sweat like a whore in church. After about a month of usage, no issues. This is the reason why I no longer have my sc's.
I got them during the Memorial Day 50% off sale, but at their full price of 49.99, they still aren't to hard on the wallet.
If there is anything you're wondering about that I haven't touched on, let me know and I'll answer to the best of my ability.
I'll look again, but I believe the smart buds are not water resistant. I have them too, three of my friends have bought them after talking to me about them
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I just checked out the website http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
They look good. These work for the phone as well? The video mentioned that but I don't see where the mic is.
My only concern is the ear bud style. i have a really hard time getting any of them to stay in my ears. I hate to spend 50 bucks and find they fall out.
Yes it works on our phone. The microphone is where the volume control/answer button is. It picks up on wind pretty bad though
donbeth said:
I just checked out the website http://www.zagg.com/audio/smart-buds.php
They look good. These work for the phone as well? The video mentioned that but I don't see where the mic is.
My only concern is the ear bud style. i have a really hard time getting any of them to stay in my ears. I hate to spend 50 bucks and find they fall out.
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Yes it works on our phone. The microphone is where the volume control/answer button is. It picks up on wind pretty bad though
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Actually the mic is on the same area as the answer/pause/skip button is, but the volume slider is located lower on a separate piece than the mic and button.
As far as not being water resistant, I know they aren't. The reason why I used 'not advertised as' was more due to the fact that, even though they don't list them as such, these have held up w/me sweating in 100+ deg weather. So no, they are not water resistant, nor do the mfg claim them to be sweat resistant, but they still have held up where others have failed.
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My only concern is the ear bud style. i have a really hard time getting any of them to stay in my ears. I hate to spend 50 bucks and find they fall out.
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I have had the same issues, Unfortunately I can't say they will work for you, but they have a joint [this may be a bad way to describe it, but I'll post pics later tonight] that kind of anchors the ear bud in. PLUS the sliders that they have on the lines really help by keeping the line weight from trying to pull them out.
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Actually the mic is on the same area as the answer/pause/skip button is, but the volume slider is located lower on a separate piece than the mic and button.
As far as not being water resistant, I know they aren't. The reason why I used 'not advertised as' was more due to the fact that, even though they don't list them as such, these have held up w/me sweating in 100+ deg weather. .
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On mine the slider is higher and then Mic then button.
I just wanted to make sure no one else put these on got in the tub and ruined them or something dumb like that because of a comment on here that could easily be taken the wrong way
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On mine the slider is higher and then Mic then button.
I just wanted to make sure no one else put these on got in the tub and ruined them or something dumb like that because of a comment on here that could easily be taken the wrong way
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When did you get yours? There must've been a design change. I've only had mine for about a month. My volume slider is maybe 8" below my control button/mic, it puts the mic perfect for using w/o having to hold it or adjust it.
As far as the water thing, it's a good point you make, common sense is so rare it's damn near a super power any more. Good call.
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When did you get yours? There must've been a design change. I've only had mine for about a month. My volume slider is maybe 8" below my control button/mic, it puts the mic perfect for using w/o having to hold it or adjust it.
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Um It's been awhile now. I ordered mine off there site. Did you order too? Or go to Best Buy?
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I took the leap. Just ordered a pair. I found a 20% off coupon code that worked, plus free shipping.
Yeah, those are different. Has to be an old design. Got mine off the website and here's the pics.
Both, the left is the mic/button and is towards the ear buds and the right is the volume slider. The 2 spheres are the line sliders (there's 1 more also towards the buds)
The volume slider.
The control button/mic area.
And these are my ear buds.
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Also when I long press answer button its for voice control. For no better way to describe it lol
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Also when I long press answer button its for voice control. For no better way to describe it lol
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I'll have to try that. w/o a manual, I've just been messing around w/them trying to figure out what they do. I'm sure I could go to the zagg site and possibly dl a manual, but until your post, I had thought I had them all figured out.
I have to check these out.
How is the sound quality.
What music do you use for reference???
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for those looking for a nice quality and reasonably cheap pair on Amazon with universally good ratings:
http://www.amazon.com/GOgroove-Ergo...4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1309446377&sr=1-4
I even dropped them in water by accident and they still work well.
The pair arrived in the mail quickly. Fast processing. Got them in time for vacation. They worked really well on the plane. The buds fit my ears decently. The sound is good and it blocked out some of the sound from around the plane. The call quality is good. I like the way they hang around the neck.
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I have to check these out.
How is the sound quality.
What music do you use for reference???
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The sound quality is great. Be it highs, mids or lows, it all comes through w/clarity. Now I've stated before, the bass isn't going to shake your eyes, but then again, bass does not good quality sound make (yeah, that was intentional). It's how distinct everything is w/i the music, and that's what they deliver.
As far as my music, I'm fairly eclectic as it is, from Sinatra to Atreyu, Eminem to Blake Shelton. So, I may have clutch playing one second then Louis Armstrong comes up next on my shuffle. Yes, I even have classical. It all sounds good. I'd like to see what I could do w/it if I had a good equalizer app. I'm currently in the google Music beta and that's something I've already introduced as an idea. Wouldn't have to be complicated, even just a 3 band [although, I'd like to see a 5 band at least!]
Anyway, hope that kind of answers your questions. Sorry for how long it took, hell of a week at work gearing up for the 4th.
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It all sounds good. I'd like to see what I could do w/it if I had a good equalizer app.
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check out DSP Manager within the GB roms, it is awesome for earbuds
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check out DSP Manager within the GB roms, it is awesome for earbuds
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Funny story, I just flashed CM 7.1 and it comes w/DSP. Hell, it took 2 days before I knew what it did, and that's just because I was showing a friend the CM website trying to explain ROMs and rooting. Oh, and yeah, it's exactly what I wanted!
On a completely different note, these also work on my laptop as both ear buds and a microphone. Most recently w/my Rosetta Stone language and team speak (game chat) programs.
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Could the ZAGG Smartbuds be draining battery? I had the buds plugged in on Thursday and Friday and found that the battery drained super fast, faster than the already bad battery life. As in 9% loss in one hour.
It did not occur to me it could be the smartbuds until this morning. I did not use them over the weekend and the battery was ok. This morning, I plugged them in and on the way to work had a short phone call (about 2 min). After an hour I noticed my battery was down 9%!
Anyone have any experience with this?
Ok so i have an unusual problem...well my wife more specifically...in the last year or so my wife has had 3 different phones, all on verizon. The HTC Incredible, HTC Thunderbolt, and currently the Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Each phone has begun giving her freezing and random reboot problems after only a couple weeks use.
The Inc was mine before she got it and i NEVER had any problems with freezing/reboots. And it was never rooted.
The thunderbolt was bought used from Gazelle(thru ebay) and also not rooted when the problems started( i did root/flash rom afterwards but the problem came back). I also had a different thunderbolt and never had these issues.
And now we are on the Galaxy Nexus (both bought brand new right from Verizon). She is once again having freezing and phone power off problems.
What the heck could she possibly be doing to her phones to cause this?!?
If any more info is needed please just ask.
Thank You!!!
What are the external variables that have changed? ie is she charging the phone in a different car? Aftermarket batteries? That's weird though, I cant see it happening on 3 phones...
Had an issue with software once that killed 4 phones. Something about overclocking an the phones frying out.
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CR1T1C4L718 said:
Had an issue with software once that killed 4 phones. Something about overclocking an the phones frying out.
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He mentioned one of the phones had never been rooted, so I doubt it was an overclock issue. Still, cant rule anything out at this point.
She used the same charger for the two HTC phones. But a brand new one with nexus. She has had many different car chargers over this time period. Always loses them ...don't ask me how lol. But unless she's neglected to tell me something, no other outside variables have changed that I can think of.
And as far as software, it would be only non root apps. All three phones were never over clocked. And only thunderbolt rooted.
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Oh and I wanna note that the thunderbolt was on the original battery during the problems and I changed it to an aftermarket one and the problem remained.
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does she use any intensive apps like gps, or camera alot?
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does she use any intensive apps like gps, or camera alot?
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gps is used very rarely and camera is only maybe 5-10 pics a day at most. The only apps she uses in large amounts everyday are facebook and the stock browser.
I stopped figuring out what my sister does whit the phones I buy for her honestly ladies and smartphone doesn't just go along very well... neither does ladies and driving (pun intended)
And my sister has the same issue whit 4 phones I bought for her so if you find a fix lmk ! My thoughts are that they open a lot of apps whitout killing them so the ram decreases and thus leads to freezing?
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I stopped figuring out what my sister does whit the phones I buy for her honestly ladies and smartphone doesn't just go along very well... neither does ladies and driving (pun intended)
And my sister has the same issue whit 4 phones I bought for her so if you find a fix lmk ! My thoughts are that they open a lot of apps whitout killing them so the ram decreases and thus leads to freezing?
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Haha! I feel like you could be right. On both phone and driving lol. I guess to give me something to experiment with, does anyone have any recommendations for a task killer app that can kill any app automatically after you leave the app? Like say one minute after you close any app it will be completely closed so its not using ram anymore.
My Girlfriend had the same problem, I figured out, by finally opening one of the phones after buying a new one.
That they were all water damaged, they weren't red though, only pink. So it indicated that the phone had been in a humid area. Not underwater.
So I asked her, it seemed she brought her phones to the bathroom. (I do too) But her showers were so long, that the room gets humid and mist comes into the phone, making it "sweat" a little.
So ask her, does she take the phone into the bathroom or kitchen? Could be it.
P.S: Now shes got an Xperia GO. No problems sofar.
My experience with random freezes are mostly when the phone is doing background syncing.
I Think some app's might update (or maybe she installed new apps) and one of them is crashing the system.
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My Girlfriend had the same problem, I figured out, by finally opening one of the phones after buying a new one.
That they were all water damaged, they weren't red though, only pink. So it indicated that the phone had been in a humid area. Not underwater.
So I asked her, it seemed she brought her phones to the bathroom. (I do too) But her showers were so long, that the room gets humid and mist comes into the phone, making it "sweat" a little.
So ask her, does she take the phone into the bathroom or kitchen? Could be it.
P.S: Now shes got an Xperia GO. No problems sofar.
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she does in fact take it into the room when showering. I do as well, but I always put it under a towel or something of the such. so this is most definitely a possibility. what do i check to see if there is water damage? I don't have her Thunderbolt anymore but i have the Inc and obviously shes still using the Nexus. So i could check those.
The one thing that i didnt note that i forgot i did, was that i rooted and rommed the Inc just for the heck of it about a two months ago to use it as an mp3 player. I didnt have any issues while playing music (and disconnected from data all the time obviously, and from wifi majority of the time)
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My experience with random freezes are mostly when the phone is doing background syncing.
I Think some app's might update (or maybe she installed new apps) and one of them is crashing the system.
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yea that has always been a concern of mine, if its some app that she has downloaded on each phone, that is doing this.
I wish i could have foreseen this coming so i could have noted all the apps on the phone prior to wiping/getting rid of phone. But she's no help when i try to ask what apps she always makes a point of downloading.
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she does in fact take it into the room when showering. I do as well, but I always put it under a towel or something of the such. so this is most definitely a possibility. what do i check to see if there is water damage? I don't have her Thunderbolt anymore but i have the Inc and obviously shes still using the Nexus. So i could check those.
The one thing that i didnt note that i forgot i did, was that i rooted and rommed the Inc just for the heck of it about a two months ago to use it as an mp3 player. I didnt have any issues while playing music (and disconnected from data all the time obviously, and from wifi majority of the time)
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I had a galaxy s2 that did that I was rooted and found out even while killing apps somehow my phone would feel up with RAM and reboot to clear ROM I installed v6 supercharger and honestly haven't had that problem since
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Ok I'll try supercharger on her phone tonight.
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she does in fact take it into the room when showering. I do as well, but I always put it under a towel or something of the such. so this is most definitely a possibility. what do i check to see if there is water damage? I don't have her Thunderbolt anymore but i have the Inc and obviously shes still using the Nexus. So i could check those.
The one thing that i didnt note that i forgot i did, was that i rooted and rommed the Inc just for the heck of it about a two months ago to use it as an mp3 player. I didnt have any issues while playing music (and disconnected from data all the time obviously, and from wifi majority of the time)
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Well, open the phone, take out battery, and there should be either a White, Pink or Red sticker on there, next to the brown charging things. Else theres some inside the phone.
Red: Heavy water damage (Swim)
Pink: Misty, humid water damage.
White: Normal.
Heres some pictures from my Arc, which had small incident in a cup of tea water.
Where it got water (Damaged)
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Where it was nice and safe (Normal)
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P.S Don't worry about my little arc. It's working perfect. Did all the safety percussions and no harm was done x).
AKA: Panic in 2 secs rip out the battery and all cards, place it at a hair dryer for 72 hours haha.
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Well, open the phone, take out battery, and there should be either a White, Pink or Red sticker on there, next to the brown charging things. Else theres some inside the phone.
Red: Heavy water damage (Swim)
Pink: Misty, humid water damage.
White: Normal.
Heres some pictures from my Arc, which had small incident in a cup of tea water.
Where it got water (Damaged)
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Where it was nice and safe (Normal)
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Edit: Not sujre what the spolier command is. Oh well
P.S Don't worry about my little arc. It's working perfect. Did all the safety percussions and no harm was done x).
AKA: Panic in 2 secs rip out the battery and all cards, place it at a hair dryer for 72 hours haha.
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I'll be sure to look once she gets home tonight.
And FYI a method I found that worked great when my sister dropped her phone in a toilet was, get battery out and put in a bag with a lot of rice. Sucked the moisture right out.
Thanks for the response. And thank you everyone so far for your responses. I hope I get this figured out. I'll post back again once I've gotten my hands on her phone.
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I'll be sure to look once she gets home tonight.
And FYI a method I found that worked great when my sister dropped her phone in a toilet was, get battery out and put in a bag with a lot of rice. Sucked the moisture right out.
Thanks for the response. And thank you everyone so far for your responses. I hope I get this figured out. I'll post back again once I've gotten my hands on her phone.
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Why or how do people drop their phone in the toilet? I Just can't understand how they manage to do that. It's not like you are going to answer phone call's while doing your business on the toilet. Maybe they are writing text messages... But still, I just can't see why people can't wait a few minutes until their done.
or maybe she just didn't like the phones you gave her..
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/samsung-galaxy-s4-teardown/
This is nice considering the HTC ONE is not repairable. This makes me want to get the S4 for this simple fact.
I don't think that the micro USB port is easily replaceable like they say though. All those little pins are soldered to the motherboard on the gs3. I doubt that they just plug in in the s4. It takes a steady hand and a good mini soldering set to do that
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I don't think that the micro USB port is easily replaceable like they say though. All those little pins are soldered to the motherboard on the gs3. I doubt that they just plug in in the s4. It takes a steady hand and a good mini soldering set to do that
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The point is that the whole USB connector board is extremely simple and thus probably very cheap to replace, nobody's talking about desoldering the connector itself.
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The IT168 teardown from a month ago already revealed much of the excellent interior design of the phone.
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I don't think that the micro USB port is easily replaceable like they say though.
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Would you prefer this? Note the damage to the plastic frame that occured during disassembly.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/samsung-galaxy-s4-teardown/
This is nice considering the HTC ONE is not repairable. This makes me want to get the S4 for this simple fact.
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It's funny, in all the years I've been on xda, I've never seen such importance being placed on whether some guys can pull a phone to pieces. Now people are wanting a phone for this very fact!
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It's funny, in all the years I've been on xda, I've never seen such importance being placed on whether some guys can pull a phone to pieces. Now people are wanting a phone for this very fact!
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Well I think the reason it matters, say for me for example, is because I want to know I can fix it if its breaks especially if I am investing 800 dollars.
Say the S3 for example. Screen cracked. Cost me less then 200 to fix. Had that happen to a HTC ONE, where its not replaceable, and I don't have insurance, I am out 800 dollars.
So yes, there is a huge importance on whether or not its easy to fix if it breaks. We're not talking about 100, 200, or even 400 dollars phones. These phones are much fragile and more expensive then ever before.
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It's funny, in all the years I've been on xda, I've never seen such importance being placed on whether some guys can pull a phone to pieces. Now people are wanting a phone for this very fact!
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Said the man with the unrepairable phone.
Repairibility is kind of important in a couple of ways. A difficult to repair device is as bad for the manufacturer as it is for the consumer. If what would normally be nominal warranty repairs end up requiring device replacement the manufacturer is going to look to offload those costs to consumers either through increased claims of "customer induced damage" or classifying defects as cosmetic which aren't covered under warranty. And manufacturers that void warranties for unlocking bootloaders have already demonstrated their view on absorbing warranty repair costs.
Replacing a back cover on a Galaxy device is $20 and a new polycarbonate casing for a One X is $125 installed. Display replacements for both are $150-200. Both can also be done by customers themselves to save money if they have the skills. What the impact of low repairibility really is won't be known for a couple of months when people start posting both their warranty experiences and costs compared to other devices for typical repairs. Look at it this way, if repairibility didn't matter manufacturers wouldn't invest as much as they do to achieve high degrees of it.
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It's funny, in all the years I've been on xda, I've never seen such importance being placed on whether some guys can pull a phone to pieces. Now people are wanting a phone for this very fact!
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Well think about it, something as simple as your battery permanently dying can't be replaced.
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Well think about it, something as simple as your battery permanently dying can't be replaced.
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I have a 2 year warranty.....
I can understand replaceable screens, but I have spent €330 replacing my girlfriend's S3 screen twice. I could get a decent second hand S3 for that.
@Barry I somehow manage to sleep at night, even in the knowledge that ifixit couldn't even figure where to start when tearing down the One
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Well think about it, something as simple as your battery permanently dying can't be replaced.
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I agree. And it will day someday and the performance will also decline constantly.
That is the main reason for buying a phone with replaceable battery. In a couple of years when I may want to sell my phone, who will buy it when the battery will be dramatically reduced after within the first year they bought it? At least LG tried to remedy this with their 800-cycle battery that should live 50% longer than ordinary Li-Poly. But there is NO indication that the HTC One uses this kind of battery It is a deal breaker for me and one of the main reasons I choose SGS4.
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@Barry I somehow manage to sleep at night, even in the knowledge that ifixit couldn't even figure where to start when tearing down the One
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Link to HTC rebutting iFixit's review and providing the proper instructions for opening the phone without damaging it? They test dozens of devices a year. Give them some credit for being able to figure out how to open them. And HTC's had no problem using Twitter as a megaphone so I'd think if they were slandered by a "1" reparability rating that wasn't accurate they'd have said something in their defense.
And your two year warranty and even insurance doesn't cover cosmetic damage. What if it's dropped and deforms which even a TPU case wouldn't protect it from and you want/need to replace the casing? Frail device + low reparability = not good. The One's a gorgeous phone and a lot of people will be drawn to it for that reason. But you can't tout its best feature without also discussing the potential down sides. The real test isn’t our discussion about what “might” happen; it’s the experience of owners over the next couple of months. If there’s some secret button on the outside of the phone that you press to have it pop apart that iFixit missed I’ll be the first to humbly apologize. Same thing if drops don't create the deformation Android Authority experienced.
This was from 4' in Android Authority's drop test...
Funnily enough, there is a 'secret button' to unlock the One.
As someone pointed out in the One forums, the phone would be heated to a certain temperature, where the bonds would essentially fall apart and the phone could be repaired. It's also fairly obvious that way to dismantle the one is via the speaker grills.
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It's also fairly obvious that way to dismantle the one is via the speaker grills.
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For that to be true, one of the following had to happen:
1) After taking the device completely apart iFixit realized that removing the glued-on speaker grills was the correct way to dismantle the device and, rather than admitting their original approach was wrong, published a story that was factually inaccurate and to a degree slandering HTC's 2013 flagship.
2) No matter which way you approach it, there's no good way to disassemble a One resulting in the replacement of components unrelated to whatever's necessitating the repair.
I guess time will tell which of the two is correct.
And this has nothing to do with how iFixit actually accessed the guts of the phone.
Nine steps after prying the display assembly up from the case, we finally get a look at it on its own. Just like we saw earlier with the battery, this component can't be replaced without removing everything from the rear case…and then first taking out the motherboard.
Here's what it comes down to. HTC's development goal for the One was design. Anything packaging related was compromised to achieve it including moving the power button from the more logical right side to the left. So, to achieve their design goal, everything was crammed in to the device in whatever way was necessary to support a unique antenna structure because of the aluminum, meet dimensional and weight targets, and deliver a beautiful device. So kudos to HTC for pulling it off. But that doesn't absolve them of the impact to reparability their approach caused. And like you said in your first post how much it matters is still a question.
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I have a 2 year warranty.....
I can understand replaceable screens, but I have spent €330 replacing my girlfriend's S3 screen twice. I could get a decent second hand S3 for that.
@Barry I somehow manage to sleep at night, even in the knowledge that ifixit couldn't even figure where to start when tearing down the One
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I didn't have warranty on my s3 when the screen broke. Not everyone has the option to get warranty, especially accidental.
So yes, it is extremely important to know how easy it is to fix a device when you don't have warranty. Especially if your like me that pays full price. I don't like contracts.
It's like my laptop. I have a gaming laptop that I bought 3 years ago. Video card died. It had a 5870m ATI. I could, 1, buy a new gaming laptop for 2k. Or 2, buy a newer video card, spend 500 bucks on a 7970m, mod the cooling, and walla. Fixed, plus I get another 5 years out of it because of the awesome video card (6 times the performance). Warranty was only good for 2 years. This laptop is one of the few that is OMG SO SIMPLE to repair. Modding the cooling for the new video card was a task that took 6 hours. Got my money worth.
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I didn't have warranty on my s3 when the screen broke. Not everyone has the option to get warranty, especially accidental.
So yes, it is extremely important to know how easy it is to fix a device when you don't have warranty. Especially if your like me that pays full price. I don't like contracts.
It's like my laptop. I have a gaming laptop that I bought 3 years ago. Video card died. It had a 5870m ATI. I could, 1, buy a new gaming laptop for 2k. Or 2, buy a newer video card, spend 500 bucks on a 7970m, mod the cooling, and walla. Fixed, plus I get another 5 years out of it because of the awesome video card (6 times the performance). Warranty was only good for 2 years. This laptop is one of the few that is OMG SO SIMPLE to repair. Modding the cooling for the new video card was a task that took 6 hours. Got my money worth.
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I'm talking about warranty, not insurance. Warranty will never cover you breaking your screen.
You're right though, if you plan on owning something past the warranty period, then repairability might be important to you.
Over the last 6 or so years, I have had 7 HTC's and 3 Samsung's. I have never had to pay for a repair (unless you count 2 repairs for the screen of my girlfriend's S3), and my HTC Hero had a defect, so was replaced next day by my mobile provider.
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Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.
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Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.
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I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.
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Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.
I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.
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I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.
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There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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You can only control Hue, Saturation, Contrast, Intensity with the stock ROM. You cannot adjust RGB values, you'll need a custom kernel with this commit in order to adjust the RGB and I'm sure later down the line, there'll be gamma controls similar to the N5 on the OPO
I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I cant believe they sent a used phone. Thats rediculious.
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I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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selayan said:
I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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Yes I ordered it directly from oneplus.net, I purchased the invite on eBay. Paid $100 for the invite... I know... but I just had zero patience and had to have it NOW! I felt like Veruca from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. :laugh:
So all in total I paid about $469.xx, but even at that price if seems like a steal. Paid almost $700 for my GS5 which feels like junk compared to this bad boy.
It's too bad about the hardcore yellow band at the bottom of mine, I think I found the perfect phone. The battery life on this thing is R-E-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S! I swear it doesn't want to die.
That sucks it was a used one. To make it worse I would be livid paying over retail for it too and having a yellow band.
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i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?
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i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?
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Yeah at first I was going to return it but after hearing people had to pay $50+ to ship it back to China and no guarantees of getting back a perfect device, I decided against it.
I'm hoping my case is just an isolated incident, imagine the outrage if OnePlus was really putting customer's returns back in new sealed boxes and sending them out in order to meet demand?
They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.
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They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.
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They need to do a lot to gain respect. They are lucky people settle with the yellow screens. How can you say it's suppose to be like that? They can control the situation now and censor, deny rma, because of the invite system.
Imagine if the phone was released publicly. Stores would stop buying them because of returns and they would have a lot more people complaining than on the forums about a yellow screen.
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That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.
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Build date is July 2, 2014.
No documentation, just phone, charger cable and sim card keychain in the box. Box was completely sealed with plastic outside, does not looked tampered with at all.
Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!
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Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!
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They will say one dead pixel is normal. You need 2-3 dead for a replacement.
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I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.
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will try this, thanks.
I recieved my Z3 10 days ago.
It's superfast and the batterylife is awesome.
But 2 days ago, i noticed a damage in my Screen.
It's not big, but you can feel and see it..
I never dropped the phone, i even didn't use it often, because actually it's my secondary phone.
I never put it in my pocket with keys or money or anything.
So this morning i noticed a crack in the screen.
It's not big, too. But you can see it..
It looks like the screen is to big and instable and cracked.
This happened over night without any external influence.
Anybody got this too?
maybe it was the neighbors cat? never heard of a phone that screen mysteriously cracks itself. any pics?
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Actually, the screen of the Z2 cracked spontaneously over the night some people. (From one corner to another.) Sony is not using Gorilla Glass but the Dragontrail, idk how good it is.
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maybe it was the neighbors cat? never heard of a phone that screen mysteriously cracks itself. any pics?
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I will upload pics tomorrow..
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Another one of those my screen mysteriously cracked for no reason thread.... I'm not sure what to make of these on XDA?
The amount of complaints are growing so quickly, all the chances of my buying a Z3 are fading.
I think it's time for a recall (that they will never do).
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The amount of complaints are growing so quickly, all the chances of my buying a Z3 are fading.
I think it's time for a recall (that they will never do).
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I feel the same way.. I went ahead and ordered an iPhone 6 plus to hold me over until I make up my mind and Sony decide to release price and availability on T-Mobile.
So here are some pictures.
It's a very small crack, it doesn't disturbs me but i think it isn't waterproof anymore...
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I have an idea what can cause the crack.
When i hear Music with the speakers and full volume, the display vibrates a bit.
Can this be the reason?
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maybe it was the neighbors cat? never heard of a phone that screen mysteriously cracks itself. any pics?
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Actually, it happens when the glass is under pressure / stress.
Gave my mum my Galaxy Nexus a half year ago. A week ago she put it in a stacker in the car with much space, but rubber on the ground. We drove an hour on the Autobahn, not even fast, suspension doesn't even move much because it's so flat.. still it broke into 100 pieces, I've never seen a cracked screen like that. It didn't even move. But to be fair, it fell to the ground very often. Like 20 times, without any damage. I guess it was a bit under stress / pressure and cracked at the slightest touch...
If the glass from the z3 is under stress because it's a faulty unit, it may even crack because of a fast changing temperature. Out of your pocket --> cold table? Could happen imo. That should be covered by the warranty imo. But that depends on the country where you live in.. In germany for example we have a relatively strong consumer protection. If you have absolutely no scratches on the phone, it should be obvious that this is not your fault.
paysen said:
Actually, it happens when the glass is under pressure / stress.
Gave my mum my Galaxy Nexus a half year ago. A week ago she put it in a stacker in the car with much space, but rubber on the ground. We drove an hour on the Autobahn, not even fast, suspension doesn't even move much because it's so flat.. still it broke into 100 pieces, I've never seen a cracked screen like that. It didn't even move. But to be fair, it fell to the ground very often. Like 20 times, without any damage. I guess it was a bit under stress / pressure and cracked at the slightest touch...
If the glass from the z3 is under stress because it's a faulty unit, it may even crack because of a fast changing temperature. Out of your pocket --> cold table? Could happen imo. That should be covered by the warranty imo. But that depends on the country where you live in.. In germany for example we have a relatively strong consumer protection. If you have absolutely no scratches on the phone, it should be obvious that this is not your fault.
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I've had enough phones to know, they don't break from forces of nature or on their own. Hot to Cold, Cold to hot, faulty or not, doesn't happen.
Jonathan-H said:
I've had enough phones to know, they don't break from forces of nature or on their own. Hot to Cold, Cold to hot, faulty or not, doesn't happen.
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You had some phones and they didn't break? Wow.
I had some cars that didn't break in years of usage. So cars can't break from forces of nature or on their own.
When there is constant pressure on the glass from the frame itself, it will break much faster or with less force.
But keep ignoring the facts and please, please never read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_glass_breakage
OP should read this, Sony repaired several Xperia Z1 phones for free:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/520...cked-glass-sony-might-repair-it-for-free.html
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
cschmitt said:
I've put together a Google forms survey to collect some objective breakage data:
Sony Xperia Z3 / Z3 Compact - Glass Survey
Please take some time to complete the survey whether you've experienced a breakage or not, it's important to have a complete set of data. You will be able to view the survey results after submitting the form.
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I answered all the questions.
@paysen
Ich bin deutsch
So i have to send my device to Sonys repair center.
There is nothing more on it.
It's just like a new Z3 wich was taken out of the box 5 minutes ago.
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There is no pressure from the frame, the glass fits inside it and rests on a lip. Hence why people have "gap issues". The actual frame puts no pressure on the glass under normal use as far as I can see. Unless of course the frame warps slightly, then I could see pressure building up at corners.
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Sorry - problem confirmed !
shook187 said:
Another one of those my screen mysteriously cracked for no reason thread.... I'm not sure what to make of these on XDA?
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That's what I thought, too. And I had the same ideas like that famous "neighbor's cat", didn't take it for serious.
Till this morning, when I found a nice crack in the screen after charging the Z3 over night, listening to music prior to sleeping.
Crack starts at the right side if the upper speaker, extends down to the lower left edge of the phone. You can see and feel it, touchscreen still working, but with problems.
No drops, no weight placed on the Z3, no famous cats, not even mice.
Reason ? Unknown.
A bold guess: Vibrations. Z3 was resting with it's lower edge against a metal bar of the little table next to my bed, I had music playing quite loud. As the upper speaker causes the phone to vibrate noticeably, the constant vibrations plus the metal bar preventing the Z3 from moving might have caused the issue. And it's the upper speaker where the crack starts.
Oh, oh, Sony...
UPDATE
Just had a call with Vodafone Germany - they told me it's a KNOWN problem many users experienced. They also revealed it's a manufacturing fault, and there's an agreement with Sony regarding repair or exchange of affected devices.
Passi1909: Du bist also nicht allein.
Oh, oh, Sony...
UPDATE 2
Just had a chat with Sonymobile. Unfriendly as ever. OF COURSE they don't know anything about the problem. OF COURSE there are no manufacturing defects. OF COURSE they don't know anything about agreements with Vodafone.
So it's the typical Sonymobile Germany habit. (They also completely ignored thousands of bent Z2 Tablets a few months ago.)
Presently, I am speaking with Vodafone Germany again to find a proper solution. But I guess I'll say goodbye to the Z3, don't want to risk another failure.
Aha, interesting. NOW Vodafone Germany (different agent) claims there are NO agreements with Sony.
Strange world.
Trying the Sony repair service, now.
I can foresee a nice class lawsuit headed their way. Sony might go bankrupt in a couple of years the way they have lost the walkman wars (audio wars), and forget about Video wars too - Samsung and LG are really getting in there, and mobile wars - gone are the days where the P800, P900, P1000 (??) were the best phones ever to the fact that Apple now has a clear dominance there and Samsung has literally taken Sony out when it comes to Android.
I can imagine that it might be time to teach Sony a lesson of cheating people with 6 monthly devices that are "downgrades" in terms of "life".
Chefproll, start recording your calls and get things documented.
I wanted to finally buy a sony Smartphone on christmas, in this case the z3, but after I've heard a lot worse problems from this, I can probably forget it. pity, because i thought that the sony xperia z3 is the most prettiest and best Smartphone on the market
tamilplaya98 said:
I wanted to finally buy a sony Smartphone on christmas, in this case the z3, but after I've heard a lot worse problems from this, I can probably forget it. pity, because i thought that the sony xperia z3 is the most prettiest and best Smartphone on the market
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It's a nice, cute device which is real fun to play with.
But I just cannot live with the subzero camera - and with a crack in the display. Device now is unusable, touchscreen now behaves totally erratic.
I just ordered a Samsung Galaxy S5. I NEVER EVER wished to buy another Samsung device. But after my experience with the Z3's camera, the cracked screen (don't listen to music) and the attitude of the Sonymobile staff - goodbye, Sony.
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It's a nice, cute device which is real fun to play with.
But I just cannot live with the subzero camera - and with a crack in the display. Device now is unusable, touchscreen now behaves totally erratic.
I just ordered a Samsung Galaxy S5. I NEVER EVER wished to buy another Samsung device. But after my experience with the Z3's camera, the cracked screen (don't listen to music) and the attitude of the Sonymobile staff - goodbye, Sony.
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i will buy a htc one m8 or a nexus 5.
i cannot believe this ****...