There are rumors..... - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

I have heard that there will be a SafeStrap build that will allow kernels to be install through some space-time thingy that a newb like me wouldn't understand. If all of you want to read about it, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826&page=162

lohacks4pone said:
I have heard that there will be a SafeStrap build that will allow kernels to be install through some space-time thingy that a newb like me wouldn't understand. If all of you want to read about it, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826&page=162
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They are talking about using kexec which as I understand it will allow use a kernel module (called kexec) to bootstrap to another kernel, allowing the bootloader to stay locked but use other complete non-samsung based roms.

dmichael said:
They are talking about using kexec which as I understand it will allow use a kernel module (called kexec) to bootstrap to another kernel, allowing the bootloader to stay locked but use other complete non-samsung based roms.
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This is true. If you haven't been keeping up with this thread, it's the location of the last light for unlocking/exploiting our bootloader. Try to keep discussion and even praise in there to a minimum to allow maximum visibility between developer posts and progress.

^In other words stay out of their way and let the devs work their magic.
God I hope they find something. I can't remember the last time I flashed a kernel.

Cool! Sure hope they find a way
Youd think, with Samsung's profits down , hopefully sammy will consider opening tha bootloader and allowing enthusiasts to buy their phones, even if they give us a way to do it by tripping Knox after all the phone so old who cares about Knox
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cybershawngates said:
Cool! Sure hope they find a way
Youd think, with Samsung's profits down , hopefully sammy will consider opening tha bootloader and allowing enthusiasts to buy their phones, even if they give us a way to do it by tripping Knox after all the phone so old who cares about Knox
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I wouldn't hold my breath, it's not Samsung who is forcing us to have a locked bootloader. It's the carriers, specifically AT&T and Verizon in this case who asked Samsung to lock the device as part of the contract to sell them on their network. This is the reason why the T-Mobile S4, Canadian I337m, and of course the international S4 don't have a locked bootloader..

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Before purchasing this phone from Verizon

I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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You're definitely able to unlock and root this baby. The latest JB OTA just makes it slightly more difficult to unlock but it's still possible. If you get it and it still runs ICS, unlock and root and don't take that OTA.
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Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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The last time I checked all android based phones have a method to root and this phone is no different. If you check both android development sections you WILL see ROMs there to flash. Also if an android phone comes with an locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it. This phone comes with a locked bootloader but there is an app for that.
Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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If there was only like some sort of forum-like site that would give you that info....that would be pretty cool. One can dream though. :silly:
Thanks to an African-Canadian Sock Monkey, we can unlock the bootloader.
a quick look in the development thread would of answered this, but yes, it's VERY simple to root and ROM this phone (coming from HTC phones)
Very simple - did mine while sitting at work goofing around...There's more and more ROMs available every day and you can get support for ANYTHING from all the awesome people here. I'm new to modding phones and I'm so impressed
Just an added note to thank all at XDA Developers who helped my unlock and root my HTC Thunderbolt and my current Galaxy S3.
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware and I appreciate that but XDA Developers are essential to the Thunderbolt, it required rooting and flashing to make it function properly!
jmxc23 said:
Also if an android phone comes with a locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
xs11e said:
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware !
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I have to disagree with that statement. Rooting and ROMing, is absolutely necessary, if you can't stand SuckWiz.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
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No kidding. They are locked up like Fort Knox on steroids.
They unlocked the dev version of a phone and the PhotonQ

Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas

Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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ShapesBlue said:
Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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I'm a pretty amateur dev when it comes to android. I have this phone and its killing me that no one has even tried to do anything about this in recent months, I seriously want to try a software mod for this horridly annoying dilemma before doing an emmc replacement. If I'm not mistaken loki project failed yes?
poppers162 said:
You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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Well I agree I'm just being realistic here. With any trial and errors there will always be failure, while there may be a triumph I just don't think any will work
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You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
DigitalMD said:
You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
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lepa71 said:
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
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You are missing something, unless you are on the 4.3 locked bootloader , there is a 4.4.2 beta safestrap but no official build and very few ROMs.
If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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Completely agree.
Development is essentially dead on the S3 if you are on 4.4. Safestrap isn't even an attractive option because you can't run a rom without the 4.4 stock kernel. You have to rely on only touchwiz roms running kitkat only. Not too many developers are going to be around who would develop such a rom. This is also unique to the Verizon variant, which makes it particularly difficult for other developers from different variants trying to help out. Extremely annoying.
There are huge bounty threads for the S5 and S4 threads trying to get bootloader unlocked. I guarantee that capable devs are trying everything they can, but bootloader hacking is expensive and difficult as a lot of hardware or low level exploits can irreversibly hard brick a phone. Devs usually only have one phone, and simply can't afford to guess on the correct exploit to prevent an irreversible brick.
For example, the devs who unlocked the bootloader on the HTC m8 said they burnt through some phones in order to get the bootloader unlocked. They never said exactly how many phones, but I certainly believe them. To pay for the cost of the devices, they are charging $25 per device for their sunshine app to unlock the bootloader . You could agree with this approach or not, but considering how expensive and dangerous the process is I think the cost is completely justified. Plus it keeps them making exploits continuously throughout the life of the device.
I think a lot of people just think that these exploits aren't as dangerous as they actually are. As a comparison, achieving root has way less of a chance of bricking a device so 1 phone per developer is enough. It's simply looking for a way to inject a file in the system partition, and if it fails then nothing happens. Unlocking a bootloader is a completely different story, and something that takes an immense amount of research and understanding before an unlocking is even attempted. If you miss with a bootloader exploit, then that phone is gone, JTAG won't even fix it.
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Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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bobloblaw1 said:
Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
astonmartin214 said:
wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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okay my mistake thought it was locked also thank you for clearing that up
well now I think there could be light at the end of the tunnel for 4.4.2 BL unlocking
BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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Shallow_1 said:
Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
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landshark68 said:
#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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ShapesBlue said:
Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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Haha, exact same with me. I unlocked my bootloader and I'm still running this thing unrooted. I don't see much of a reason to root right now except for titanium backup. These latest batches of phones are pretty awesome.
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Is the S5 slipping away?

Is it just me or has development waned for the S5 due to the locked bootloader? There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz. In reality, the odds of a bootloader unlock being discovered is rather slim. Look at the S4, the newest firmware releases are still not unlocked and you're forced to use safestrap. I realize we rely on a talented hacker out there to find an exploit that lets us replace the bootloader with a custom one OR the carrier allowing the bootloader to be unlocked. I've read somewhere that the S5 is approved for use by the U.S. Government so the likelihood of Verizon making the phone insecure by allowing people to unlock the bootloader is close to nil. I just really really want to see this phone not slip into XDA obscurity.
terrigan said:
Is it just me or has development waned for the S5 due to the locked bootloader? There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz. In reality, the odds of a bootloader unlock being discovered is rather slim. Look at the S4, the newest firmware releases are still not unlocked and you're forced to use safestrap. I realize we rely on a talented hacker out there to find an exploit that lets us replace the bootloader with a custom one OR the carrier allowing the bootloader to be unlocked. I've read somewhere that the S5 is approved for use by the U.S. Government so the likelihood of Verizon making the phone insecure by allowing people to unlock the bootloader is close to nil. I just really really want to see this phone not slip into XDA obscurity.
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it is slipping away, but not because of the bootloader being locked. Not as many people (devs included) bought the phone as early adopters, so i'm guessing there's just not enough interest or intent in the phone.
terrigan said:
There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz.
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That right there is why development is slow. There's only so much one can do with a stock system to work with. Expect to see development have a boost after each OTA until all mods are worked in, then the same downward slope until the next OTA. Repeat. :good:
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That right there is why development is slow. There's only so much one can do with a stock system to work with. Expect to see development have a boost after each OTA until all mods are worked in, then the same downward slope until the next OTA. Repeat. :good:
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There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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eragon5779 said:
There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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This would be good. kexec was the savior of my previous phone.
eragon5779 said:
There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
jal3223 said:
I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
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That is being worked on already. There is a thread about it.
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I really hope they are successful.
eragon5779 said:
There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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Actually I'm running a GPE ROM on my Verizon S4 right now. It's SafeStrap compatible. I love AOSP vs TouchWiz.
Being pessimistic it does seem like the beginning of the end for s5. By this I mean to say that safestrap just doesn't cut it as I do not like stock kernel. But everyone's done an amazing job thus far so haven't completely given up but I think nexus devices are the route I will take.
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I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
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to my knowledge it is in the kernel. on vzw s4 mdk devicds were unlocked allowing you to flash custom kernals that were modded by devs like ktoons to make it permissive..
The later firmware builds (cant go back to mdk if took ota to a newer firmware) are in the same boat as the s5 so if they have it on later kernal builds for the s4 then it might b possible.. then again, they have it on the note 3 but doesnt work on the s5 so that concept isnt always possible
Not slipping away. Just at a road block. Everyone has done all the modding they can do on the device. I think everyone is waiting on 5.0.
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to my knowledge it is in the kernel. on vzw s4 mdk devicds were unlocked allowing you to flash custom kernals that were modded by devs like ktoons to make it permissive..
The later firmware builds (cant go back to mdk if took ota to a newer firmware) are in the same boat as the s5 so if they have it on later kernal builds for the s4 then it might b possible.. then again, they have it on the note 3 but doesnt work on the s5 so that concept isnt always possible
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I'm working on it. It's rather difficult. It appears the kernel was compiled with no /dev/mem(kmem) character devices in the config. After going through the kernel source, it looks like SELinux was set to always enforce. This is where ro.build.selinux.enforce=1 comes from. The bootloader checks the boot.img hash and for a special cookie
Code:
SEANDROIDENFORCE
which appears before the hash. If this cookie/magic isn't present, the warranty bit will blow. Since I can't access memory directly, and the methods I could use are significantly limited because of the Enforcing status, some sort of vulnerability in the kernel will need to be present. As soon as we can get Permissive, I can get us kernel modules, and hopefully kexec with the help of a few other great devs @Surge1223 @CalcProgrammer1
Your efforts are truly appreciated!
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The OP is originally from September something. I just seen this post and was interested in it, it is now November and if you ask me, yes it has slipped away, technology moves on quickly, i6+ is out and now we will start seeing things about a s6 in the works and it is what it is.
I blame the locked bootloader on a ton of stuff not being created. You have to grab ahold of technology in the moment and use it fast or else its gone before you know it.
It is certainly nothing like the S3 forums. That place is still kicking.
From what I understand they're close to kexec on it and the S4, since they only need KK-compatible kernels and they previously had unlocked bootloaders. That isn't the case here.
Samsung really screwed up with this one. If the N6 wasn't assured to be a failure on Verizon and it didn't have a massive footprint I'd be all over it.
Everybody panic.
Wish we can get some good news soon.
Dead is all I'm seeing, except for the few amazing devs we have now. Those still building, thank you
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Stupid question maybe, but where are all the roms? Has the Verizon S6 not been rooted yet? I'm assuming that is why......?
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Stupid question maybe, but where are all the roms? Has the Verizon S6 not been rooted yet? I'm assuming that is why......?
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You are correct. There is no root for the Verizon S6, the international has root and ROMs but not us.
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You are correct. There is no root for the Verizon S6, the international has root and ROMs but not us.
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:crying::crying::crying:
Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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I hate to be a stick in the mud but I agree. Especially since this phone is on lollipop. The N4 might have a chance on KK but I don't see that happening soon either. On the bright side this S6 is running great the way it is and has some nice features so I'm thankful for that.
You know I used to root to get decent performance of of a lagging phone, but I'm not sure I'm missing root that much. Now granted there are a few apps that I miss from no root. But I think I can live without root on this phone at the moment. Subject to change to
I'd love root for the ability to theme (theme store themes are garbage) as well as the ability too add things that should have never been removed. Stock browser, smart manager, etc.
Side note, I really hate that I can't draw on pics/screenshots like I could on my Note 3/4 and my s5. Samsung removes features I use in favor of what? /rant off
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Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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I heard FoxFi works for this without root.
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I heard FoxFi works for this without root.
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Not sure if I would wanna trust that. I would feel safer being rooted. What's the next best device I can get and will be able to root/rom etc? I'm thinking wait for the G4?
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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chrisj22 said:
Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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This is not entirely true and depends on your usage. I use automation apps and without root, you don't have the ability to turn on and off GPS, Data, etc. There are other benefits to root as well such as ad blocking.
chrisj22 said:
Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
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And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
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I think he meant to say you can't flash those because of locked bootloader
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And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
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Yes I am wondering how tf that is possible also, lol........
Its three weeks in guys it'll gain popularity and will be rooted and most likely unlocked. Its hard to think this would be the first galaxy that isn't. Its not a low legacy device
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Its three weeks in guys it'll gain popularity and will be rooted and most likely unlocked. Its hard to think this would be the first galaxy that isn't. Its not a low legacy device
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As far as I know, the Verizon Note 4 still doesn't have root.
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You will never the get VZ S6 bootloader unlock.
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Poloasis said:
You will never the get VZ S6 bootloader unlock.
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Agreed. The S4 bootloader was never unlocked after the first firmware update.
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I miss root only for the fact that I grew to depend on Titanium Backup Pro to set up multiple profiles for apps on my device. Was super handy for all the games I played that I had different accounts for...

Unlock bootloader on Galaxy S5, it may come true!!!

Hi all,
Please read this news and share your opinions and keep our fingers crossed....
http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
ive been waiting over a year for this this is awesome cant wait wait to get a nice custom rom onto this phone
I hate one of the responses on the video. "Verizon would pay more for this than any user would." I'll donate seriously if this was released. Would no longer have to bug my boss to upgrade to the Nexus 6 just so I can do what I want with my phone.
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I hate one of the responses on the video. "Verizon would pay more for this than any user would." I'll donate seriously if this was released. Would no longer have to bug my boss to upgrade to the Nexus 6 just so I can do what I want with my phone.
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I am completely psyched for this!! I passed on a galaxy s6 just so I could still use my microsd card from my htc one remix, and I passed on a g4 for the fingerprint scanner so this is awesome news for this device, I would love to use cyanogenmod on here and its a definite positive knowing that once this is released, I can use marshmallow before its official ota release too! Plus the chance of this phone becoming dead in the forums will be slim to nothing once this is released, this is absolutely amazing news in my opinion. I don't care if they charge to unlock the bootloader or not, I'll be one of the first too pay to get mine unlocked and then I can be one of the cool kids with roms again lol ?
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And the Verizon would pay quote I think is bs, they're making money either way, they could care less.
I hope it works. I have the dev edition and development is getting stale. This would open up a lot more development, assuming the devs haven't already abandoned this phone.
Only a few more months with the phone, why not go out in style! Hope this is true.
And they're probably going to sit on this and never do anything with it, or worse, sell the exploit to Samsung/Verizon. :/
Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
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Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
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It depends on what the unlock method requires. If it needs root then it won't work. If it doesn't need root then it's likely that OG5 will be able to unlock.
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@beaups can you supply us with any info on a possible public release?
penglish said:
Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?
Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
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Once bootloader is unlocked, the possibility is unlimited, any custom roms can be flash and root is just a piece of cake. If the bootloader is unlocked, we can flash a custom kernel where it allowed to root....at will. ...
And i just saw this comment and it made me sad.
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And they're probably going to sit on this and never do anything with it, or worse, sell the exploit to Samsung/Verizon. :/
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If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
According to what he's actually doing on the computer via ADB, he's using root commands which means it may require root. This is only speculation though because he does flash a bootloader file via Odin too and obviously you don't need root for Odin.
So essentially it could just be as easy as flashing a bootloader file via Odin.
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If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
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Do you know if it'll be released?
It should be packed into something like sunshine or mofo, my two cents is that developers who find exploits should take money for it because if not you get burnt out easily.
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Do you know if it'll be released?
It should be packed into something like sunshine or mofo, my two cents is that developers who find exploits should take money for it because if not you get burnt out easily.
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I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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Ouch. It's sad that the news regarding this got out to the general community like it did. It's tough pill to swallow for me, but I can understand why beaups would keep it private. No need to rage guys, but it does stink when things like this can't be released even with a giant warning label slapped on it..
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I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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well thats just terrible lol. dont you just love showing the world just to not release it lol. but oh well, his work to make that decision and he has spoken lol
i got rid of my s5 anyways back in April
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jcase said:
I'm told he has no plans to release it.
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That kinda really sucks, this will kill the s5's life
jcase said:
If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
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I know someone who could pay for your exploits. Look here https://mobile.twitter.com/Zerodium/status/644107653745016832
iamdude said:
I know someone who could pay for your exploits. Look here https://mobile.twitter.com/Zerodium/status/644107653745016832
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I have my own customers, middle men take a % and keep me from knowing where things go but thanks.

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