Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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ShapesBlue said:
Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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I'm a pretty amateur dev when it comes to android. I have this phone and its killing me that no one has even tried to do anything about this in recent months, I seriously want to try a software mod for this horridly annoying dilemma before doing an emmc replacement. If I'm not mistaken loki project failed yes?
poppers162 said:
You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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Well I agree I'm just being realistic here. With any trial and errors there will always be failure, while there may be a triumph I just don't think any will work
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You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
DigitalMD said:
You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
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lepa71 said:
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
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You are missing something, unless you are on the 4.3 locked bootloader , there is a 4.4.2 beta safestrap but no official build and very few ROMs.
If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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Completely agree.
Development is essentially dead on the S3 if you are on 4.4. Safestrap isn't even an attractive option because you can't run a rom without the 4.4 stock kernel. You have to rely on only touchwiz roms running kitkat only. Not too many developers are going to be around who would develop such a rom. This is also unique to the Verizon variant, which makes it particularly difficult for other developers from different variants trying to help out. Extremely annoying.
There are huge bounty threads for the S5 and S4 threads trying to get bootloader unlocked. I guarantee that capable devs are trying everything they can, but bootloader hacking is expensive and difficult as a lot of hardware or low level exploits can irreversibly hard brick a phone. Devs usually only have one phone, and simply can't afford to guess on the correct exploit to prevent an irreversible brick.
For example, the devs who unlocked the bootloader on the HTC m8 said they burnt through some phones in order to get the bootloader unlocked. They never said exactly how many phones, but I certainly believe them. To pay for the cost of the devices, they are charging $25 per device for their sunshine app to unlock the bootloader . You could agree with this approach or not, but considering how expensive and dangerous the process is I think the cost is completely justified. Plus it keeps them making exploits continuously throughout the life of the device.
I think a lot of people just think that these exploits aren't as dangerous as they actually are. As a comparison, achieving root has way less of a chance of bricking a device so 1 phone per developer is enough. It's simply looking for a way to inject a file in the system partition, and if it fails then nothing happens. Unlocking a bootloader is a completely different story, and something that takes an immense amount of research and understanding before an unlocking is even attempted. If you miss with a bootloader exploit, then that phone is gone, JTAG won't even fix it.
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Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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bobloblaw1 said:
Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
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wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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okay my mistake thought it was locked also thank you for clearing that up
well now I think there could be light at the end of the tunnel for 4.4.2 BL unlocking
BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
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landshark68 said:
#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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Haha, exact same with me. I unlocked my bootloader and I'm still running this thing unrooted. I don't see much of a reason to root right now except for titanium backup. These latest batches of phones are pretty awesome.
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I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
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Scott
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You're definitely able to unlock and root this baby. The latest JB OTA just makes it slightly more difficult to unlock but it's still possible. If you get it and it still runs ICS, unlock and root and don't take that OTA.
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Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
Thanks!
Scott
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The last time I checked all android based phones have a method to root and this phone is no different. If you check both android development sections you WILL see ROMs there to flash. Also if an android phone comes with an locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it. This phone comes with a locked bootloader but there is an app for that.
Scottay5150 said:
I want to know am I able to root and ROM this thing? I've done it to many phones before. It's not locked down or is it?
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Scott
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If there was only like some sort of forum-like site that would give you that info....that would be pretty cool. One can dream though. :silly:
Thanks to an African-Canadian Sock Monkey, we can unlock the bootloader.
a quick look in the development thread would of answered this, but yes, it's VERY simple to root and ROM this phone (coming from HTC phones)
Very simple - did mine while sitting at work goofing around...There's more and more ROMs available every day and you can get support for ANYTHING from all the awesome people here. I'm new to modding phones and I'm so impressed
Just an added note to thank all at XDA Developers who helped my unlock and root my HTC Thunderbolt and my current Galaxy S3.
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware and I appreciate that but XDA Developers are essential to the Thunderbolt, it required rooting and flashing to make it function properly!
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Also if an android phone comes with a locked bootloader then there is a method to unlock it.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
xs11e said:
There's really little need to root and flash the S3 other than to remove VZW's bloatware !
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I have to disagree with that statement. Rooting and ROMing, is absolutely necessary, if you can't stand SuckWiz.
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Tell that to Motorola owners.
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No kidding. They are locked up like Fort Knox on steroids.
They unlocked the dev version of a phone and the PhotonQ
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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Is it just me or has development waned for the S5 due to the locked bootloader? There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz. In reality, the odds of a bootloader unlock being discovered is rather slim. Look at the S4, the newest firmware releases are still not unlocked and you're forced to use safestrap. I realize we rely on a talented hacker out there to find an exploit that lets us replace the bootloader with a custom one OR the carrier allowing the bootloader to be unlocked. I've read somewhere that the S5 is approved for use by the U.S. Government so the likelihood of Verizon making the phone insecure by allowing people to unlock the bootloader is close to nil. I just really really want to see this phone not slip into XDA obscurity.
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Is it just me or has development waned for the S5 due to the locked bootloader? There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz. In reality, the odds of a bootloader unlock being discovered is rather slim. Look at the S4, the newest firmware releases are still not unlocked and you're forced to use safestrap. I realize we rely on a talented hacker out there to find an exploit that lets us replace the bootloader with a custom one OR the carrier allowing the bootloader to be unlocked. I've read somewhere that the S5 is approved for use by the U.S. Government so the likelihood of Verizon making the phone insecure by allowing people to unlock the bootloader is close to nil. I just really really want to see this phone not slip into XDA obscurity.
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it is slipping away, but not because of the bootloader being locked. Not as many people (devs included) bought the phone as early adopters, so i'm guessing there's just not enough interest or intent in the phone.
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There's just so much you can do with safestrap and modifying Touchwiz.
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That right there is why development is slow. There's only so much one can do with a stock system to work with. Expect to see development have a boost after each OTA until all mods are worked in, then the same downward slope until the next OTA. Repeat. :good:
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That right there is why development is slow. There's only so much one can do with a stock system to work with. Expect to see development have a boost after each OTA until all mods are worked in, then the same downward slope until the next OTA. Repeat. :good:
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There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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This would be good. kexec was the savior of my previous phone.
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There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
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I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
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That is being worked on already. There is a thread about it.
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I really hope they are successful.
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There may be hope for that. Over in the Verizon S4 forums, they got kexec working. No aosp yet, and its very unstable, but they found it. It should work on the S5 with a little more work. Hopefully this happens this month.
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Actually I'm running a GPE ROM on my Verizon S4 right now. It's SafeStrap compatible. I love AOSP vs TouchWiz.
Being pessimistic it does seem like the beginning of the end for s5. By this I mean to say that safestrap just doesn't cut it as I do not like stock kernel. But everyone's done an amazing job thus far so haven't completely given up but I think nexus devices are the route I will take.
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I'm not sure if kexec is possible without having a SELinux permissive kernel. I believe the Galaxy s5 is enforcing unfortunately (not vulnerable).
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to my knowledge it is in the kernel. on vzw s4 mdk devicds were unlocked allowing you to flash custom kernals that were modded by devs like ktoons to make it permissive..
The later firmware builds (cant go back to mdk if took ota to a newer firmware) are in the same boat as the s5 so if they have it on later kernal builds for the s4 then it might b possible.. then again, they have it on the note 3 but doesnt work on the s5 so that concept isnt always possible
Not slipping away. Just at a road block. Everyone has done all the modding they can do on the device. I think everyone is waiting on 5.0.
elliwigy said:
to my knowledge it is in the kernel. on vzw s4 mdk devicds were unlocked allowing you to flash custom kernals that were modded by devs like ktoons to make it permissive..
The later firmware builds (cant go back to mdk if took ota to a newer firmware) are in the same boat as the s5 so if they have it on later kernal builds for the s4 then it might b possible.. then again, they have it on the note 3 but doesnt work on the s5 so that concept isnt always possible
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I'm working on it. It's rather difficult. It appears the kernel was compiled with no /dev/mem(kmem) character devices in the config. After going through the kernel source, it looks like SELinux was set to always enforce. This is where ro.build.selinux.enforce=1 comes from. The bootloader checks the boot.img hash and for a special cookie
Code:
SEANDROIDENFORCE
which appears before the hash. If this cookie/magic isn't present, the warranty bit will blow. Since I can't access memory directly, and the methods I could use are significantly limited because of the Enforcing status, some sort of vulnerability in the kernel will need to be present. As soon as we can get Permissive, I can get us kernel modules, and hopefully kexec with the help of a few other great devs @Surge1223 @CalcProgrammer1
Your efforts are truly appreciated!
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The OP is originally from September something. I just seen this post and was interested in it, it is now November and if you ask me, yes it has slipped away, technology moves on quickly, i6+ is out and now we will start seeing things about a s6 in the works and it is what it is.
I blame the locked bootloader on a ton of stuff not being created. You have to grab ahold of technology in the moment and use it fast or else its gone before you know it.
It is certainly nothing like the S3 forums. That place is still kicking.
From what I understand they're close to kexec on it and the S4, since they only need KK-compatible kernels and they previously had unlocked bootloaders. That isn't the case here.
Samsung really screwed up with this one. If the N6 wasn't assured to be a failure on Verizon and it didn't have a massive footprint I'd be all over it.
Everybody panic.
Wish we can get some good news soon.
Dead is all I'm seeing, except for the few amazing devs we have now. Those still building, thank you
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Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I'm rooted and on 4.1.2 deodex stock. The kernel is unlocked still. I got rid of the constant update warning by deleting the one recommended file. This phone is so old I don't remember all the steps to get here anymore. I'm sure the threads that I followed are still here buried so deep cause they're so old and ancient. Sorry, can't help you find them.
I'm super happy with it and with my unlimited data and a fully working TiBU Pro and tethering, I have no reason to update. Until I'm ready for the next greatest phablet sometime after next month.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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Wow man, I kept my backup for 4.1.2 but never looked back on rooting and unlocking, which you still have the option to do. I would not take any OTAs as the BootLoader will be locked permanently and word is verizon has been finding ways to block root
Here's the thread for those of you still on 4.1.2 and looking to unlock and root, this tool is pretty simple but you need a pc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332825
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
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People running 4.1.2 should do the following if they want to run deodexed 4.3 stock (locked bootloader stripped out) or 4.4.4 AOSP roms like CM/PA/AOKP/etc.
1. Towelroot to root
2. EZ-Unlock to unlock bootloader with LE6 bootloader
3. Install TWRP recovery through TWRP Manager
4. Flash invisiblek's MF1 firmware
5. Flash the NE1 radio (I don't think a zip of it by itself exists)
6. Flash your rom of choice
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Agree somewhat with that. Casual works just fine for those on 4.1.2 also. I used it when I unlocked and rooted and never looked back, it's also in the previous post before yours
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Alternatively you...
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
woody165 said:
Alternatively you could just look up one click methods in google. You should just be able to click a button and walk away. I remember it even putting on a recovery as well...
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Some 1-click methods are quite questionable and dangerous though
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Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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TheAlmightyBob said:
Just to answer the original question, you are not alone. I am also unrooted on 4.1.2 for the same reason. Thanks to the others here for posting tips so I'll know where to look when I have time.
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Some people just choose not to root but most take the OTA, props to you for not taking the ota though
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anyone using Evdo? can you share your configuration ?
Still rockin' Cleanrom 7! No joke..
My wife's been using the GS3 I gave her and I had it flashed to the stablest rom at the time.
It's getting some age on it for sure and acting wonky so I'm trying to figure out what I should do with it.. In the hunt for what to do to keep it a solid worker for the Mrs. Heck, last time I flashed anything it was that rom on this old GS3 to get her going. Yes, I went to the dark-side, so haven't been a flashoholic like my previous android days. So now I gotta learn up so I can fix this thing. Been a while.. huh
A testament though for Scott's kicking Cleanrom for this phone. What a beast to hang on so long and fairly decently on this phone.
What to do?
Considering trying to odin to a stock rom or something to do an OTA, which I know will lock it's b-loader, or some other option for a pretty solid TW updated rom of some kind.
Reading up now in here to find out.
Pagaldesi4life said:
Just curious to know if there are any vzw S3 owners that are still unrooted AND on 4.1.2? I am. I assume there aren't many of us left. My reason for still being on 4.1.2, I keep deferring the ota but I become too lazy to invest into rooting but still keeping my hopes that one day I will have the will power to do so!
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I am rooted on Kitkat 4.4.4
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
mwebb34 said:
A friend of mine ask me to root and unlock his galaxy s3 it's a Verizon phone but he had someone flash it to page pulse. He's running 4.1.2 can the bootloader be unlocked and rooted? Thanks.
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Yup it sure can. As long as it's on 4.1.2 or earlier the bootloader can be unlocked. As far as rooting it can be rooted even up to 4.4.2
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Jealous!!!
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
santanac said:
I wish my phone still was on 4.1.2, after my lovely wife being a little nosy, by mistake took the OTA to 4.3, i've been suffering running TW on my phone. You guys are lucky.
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Sadly I've read a lot of people updating it by mistake to 4.3, your not the only one
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just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
Croda said:
just an occasional lurker, but I'm also still on 4.1.2 for the same reasons.
haven't gotten around to rooting, don't want to deal with many of the hassles that came with the OTA. I defer the OTA every day.
got til June before I hit my next upgrade....will see if I can last that long.
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That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
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ShapesBlue said:
That has to be annoying deferring the update on a daily basis. I didn't waste anytime myself with unlocking and rooting when I got my phone. I knew better than to trust VZW
From my CM11 S3
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I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
kgirlx said:
I'm still running andys bonestock rom 3.3 bootloader still unlocked just never had the urge to go to 4.3 such as Alliance rom or whichever other ones that are out that won't lock it
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Good for you. I never looked back when I unlocked my bootloader. I love being able to flash nearly any custom rom there is
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Sorry, but I have searched, and can't find a direct answer, is 5.1.1 rooted for Verizon?
Where can I find the guide if it is.
Currently I am rooted on 5.02, have been delaying any OTA since purchase, rooted using Ping Pong
Thanks in advance
Anxiously awaiting this myself...I do know that Verizon locked the bootloader on or before 5.1.1 and as far as I know there is no root...yet.
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It does not exist. Not even the top rom makers and programers have been able to do it. The 5.1.1 update will also make it so you can't go backwards to 5.0.2. This is the first time since I've owned cell phones that I've seen a company finally beat the cell phone gurus but they finally did it on this one. However if you are not on Verizon or AT&T you can still do it through ODIN.
So if you have a phone pre 5.1.1 that rootable and root it...will you be able to flash 5.1.1?
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TommyRox said:
So if you have a phone pre 5.1.1 that rootable and root it...will you be able to flash 5.1.1?
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Only if you want to lose root.
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I assumed that's where we are...unfortunately.
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S7 will be coming out in 4 months. I doubt S6 will get it.
MSPORTER10 said:
It does not exist. Not even the top rom makers and programers have been able to do it. The 5.1.1 update will also make it so you can't go backwards to 5.0.2. This is the first time since I've owned cell phones that I've seen a company finally beat the cell phone gurus but they finally did it on this one. However if you are not on Verizon or AT&T you can still do it through ODIN.
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s4 beat the cell phone gurus... Technically... MDK was unlocked, nothing after that was.
s5 has also never had a bootloader unlock..
Lots of Verizon phones don't have much, root at most....
XxD34THxX said:
s4 beat the cell phone gurus... Technically... MDK was unlocked, nothing after that was.
s5 has also never had a bootloader unlock..
Lots of Verizon phones don't have much, root at most....
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S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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unctucker said:
S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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From what I've read, whoever unlocked it posted that they weren't going to release it. Did I hear wrong?
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unctucker said:
S5 bootloader has been unlocked.
The video of proof is on YouTube.
It has not been released but I'm sure it will soon. Once that is released it should open things up for the S6.
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It will not be released ever. That has been said a few times. It uses(from what I have heard) a Zero Day exploit, meaning it's very damn complicated, and it has a high chance of bricking people's phones. That was never meant to go to the general public. It was aimed at other devs. It's a proof of concept, meaning it CAN be unlocked, just not through that way.
XxD34THxX said:
It will not be released ever. That has been said a few times. It uses(from what I have heard) a Zero Day exploit, meaning it's very damn complicated, and it has a high chance of bricking people's phones. That was never meant to go to the general public. It was aimed at other devs. It's a proof of concept, meaning it CAN be unlocked, just not through that way.
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0 day exploits are OS vulnerabilities that the manufacturer themselves aren't aware of. It doesn't necessarily mean that exploit itself has a high chance of bricking the phone.
Not releasing the method could be any number if things. These reasons could range from stolen proprietary source code being used to the exploit's author deciding that he doesn't feel like sharing the method.
I heard that the team that found the method said that they would NOT release it at the moment but that in the future it will be available.
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I just want all the bloat ware removed.
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Jesustheheretic said:
0 day exploits are OS vulnerabilities that the manufacturer themselves aren't aware of. It doesn't necessarily mean that exploit itself has a high chance of bricking the phone.
Not releasing the method could be any number if things. These reasons could range from stolen proprietary source code being used to the exploit's author deciding that he doesn't feel like sharing the method.
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I know that it may not have a high chance of bricking the device, but with the device, I assume it is thanks to shenanigans with Verizon and Knox. I have already discussed legal issues briefly in the s4 bootloader thread... Damn Money Sucking Lawyers. It is what it is. I think it has given some people hope because there IS A WAY... Just maybe not that way.
Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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MIKEYSAKZ said:
Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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Well crap, should of waited til 6.0 was out on s6... :crying:
MIKEYSAKZ said:
Maybe hope yet just pay this on google plus not sure if our verizon variant will benefit from this method so correct me if I am wrong but take a look any how.
Edit: for some reason it won't let me post a screen shot but surfing g plus I came across chainfires new su beta that is systemless and confirmed working on stock s6 running android 5.1.1
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Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.
redrol said:
Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.
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It's in the news. Said stock 5.1.1.
redrol said:
Working on stock s6 with 5.1.1?! Come on man, you gotta give us more information.
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I am pretty sure this is what he is referring to:
http://www.xda-developers.com/update-to-snapprefs-xposed-module-includes-17-instagram-like-filters/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
No one tried yet?
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