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Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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thanewguy said:
Hey guys, new to the whole Android modding stuff so, go easy because my knowledge about all the technical stuff is pretty limited.
So, anyway, I got tired of Touchwiz and I want to switch to Cyanogenmod just because I like the stock Android look and dislike the general slowness of Touchwiz. Problem is, I took the stupid OTA 4.3 update which apparently added the Knox bootloader which is, as far as I have read, impossible to unlock at this point.
I was under the impression that, with the Knox bootloader, its impossible to have a custom ROM since it will brick your device, but these threads :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575977
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
Seem to indicate that all the Knox bootloader does is prevent downgrading the bootloader and also voids the warranty if you tamper with your device. Well, my warranty expire a couple months ago so I couldn't care less. But now I'm really confused. Can I, or can I not flash Cyanogenmod on my 4.3 Verizon Galaxy S3 assuming I don't care about the warranty?
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So with all else said, use Safestrap
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Midnightswammi said:
So with all else said, use Safestrap
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We don't have safestrap.
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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Thats correct. Your stuck on 4.3 TW
thanewguy said:
So there's no way to do it all? No workarounds or anything of the sort? So I'm stuck with Touchwiz until someone cracks the current bootloader?
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You can use xposed with modules that allow for a lot of customization, if you haven't used it before take a look at it.
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BadUsername said:
Like what was said above, you can't install any custom roms.
Knox is not responsible for locking the bootloader, it's only a flag that is triggered when root is achieved. Think of it like a flash counter that can't be undone. It has nothing to do with this.
The problem is the bootloader that was also updated. Every step in the chain has to be on the VRUCML1 base or the phone will brick itself and terminate the boot. Since our previous unlock method was to modify a step in the bootloader to unlock it, it can't be done the same way on the new base because it isn't able to be modified.
Any attempt to unlock it by any means or flashing a custom rom will change the bootloader. Safestrap is the only hope for the new base, or unless we're lucky enough to get a leaked unlocked bootloader.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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I'm rooted on 4.3 without being flagged. Maybe its because I didn't try to root with anything other than safe root.
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It really doesn't flag? Your warranty bit in download mode is still 0? Maybe saferoot bypasses it.
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any progress?
Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Like the original poster, I am stuck on a touchWiz android 4.3 verizon gs3. I have been able to root it with safe root, but I have not had any luck rolling back to 4.1.2 or to unlock the bootloader. I have seen various "how to" type things that are supposed to work on 4.3, but like I said, no luck so far.
If someone more knowledgeable than myself has heard of a breakthrough in this area that would be awesome.
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Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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ThePagel said:
Any how to you have seen was not for the Verizon gs3. But if I am wrong please post the link so I can try!
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Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
scarlyowl said:
Sure, I tried this out yesterday, ended up soft bricking my phone, I was able to use Kies to get it back to stock though. I am suspicious that the how to may be bunk.
androidpit.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-s3
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It's bunk for the Verizon S3. I have seen this link mentioned in another thread and BadUsername checked out the link and found it was for the International version of the S3, not ours.
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
A_Dumas said:
I was running cm11 m3 on my vzw galaxy s3 but used odin to install VRUCML1 not knowing about Knox and all the fun that comes with that. Before I installed VRUCML1, I did a backup. I've since regained root access through saferoot but cant boot into a custom recovery without getting the "you've been naughty. go visit a verizon store" error message. Does anyone know of a way that I can restore my pre-VRUCML1 backup or am I out of luck since my bootloader is still locked?
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Out of luck. Can only use safestrap to run only 4.3 TW based ROMs
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twistedillutions said:
You will brick your fone flashing any type of custom recovery or roms will brick you fone. U can root ur fone from my understanding from other threads but thats it
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now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
HubbardWithAndroid said:
now that it is 4/26/2014 is this still the case? i have sch-i535 with 4.3 it is rooted but i really want Cyanogenmod. is there any way at all?
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No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Does this work?
landshark68 said:
No way yet, and it doesn't look promising for that changing anytime soon.
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Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
HubbardWithAndroid said:
Okay thanks. Hey i found this do you know of this working? basically you download the 4.1.2 firmware from sammobil and flash is using odin. If i can downgrade then i can flash Cyanogenmod. I found a link but i cant post it being a new member.
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There was a link for something like that posted some time ago here at XDA, and if it's the same link it is for the international version of the S3 not our Verizon version. The Verizon version cannot be flashed back to a previous firmware.
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Hey guys! I see that verizon has decided to release a pre paid version of the Moto G on their pre paid network. Is there by chance any way to root this? Rooting guides? Custom ROMs? Custom Recoveries? Anything of the sort? I can't seem to find anything, or perhaps the same rooting steps and/or ROMs for the real Verizon version still work? Thanks guys! Oh, and how to unlock it's bootloader, lets not forget that! THANKS!
H4X0R46 said:
Hey guys! I see that verizon has decided to release a pre paid version of the Moto G on their pre paid network. Is there by chance any way to root this? Rooting guides? Custom ROMs? Custom Recoveries? Anything of the sort? I can't seem to find anything, or perhaps the same rooting steps and/or ROMs for the real Verizon version still work? Thanks guys! Oh, and how to unlock it's bootloader, lets not forget that! THANKS!
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Unfortunately, the verizon variant of the Moto G has a locked bootloader. I picked this phone up and have been using it for a good month now. Its a really great phone, but would be much much better with custom roms and such. There is a thread where some guys are trying to unlock the bootloader with a keygen. you can check the thread out here
I hope someday we will have an unlocked bootloader
Or at least root. I know with other phones it was possible without bootloader unlock, so if we could just get root, that'd be awesome. Been on this phone for a week, and while it's a decent phone without root, I definitely miss it.
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lightningdude said:
Or at least root. I know with other phones it was possible without bootloader unlock, so if we could just get root, that'd be awesome. Been on this phone for a week, and while it's a decent phone without root, I definitely miss it.
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oh no doubt, i came from an sgs2 and i can tell a very noticeable difference with smoothness and overall performance.. root is definitely missed!
So the boot loader is the issue here? Always hated how Verizon Locke's their boot loaders, god forbid one of us doesn't like that build of android! Haha well thanks for clearing that up guys! When this is unlocked, will there more than likely be specific ROMs for this phone? Or just any Moto G Verizon ROM? Probably a dumb question lol
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Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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ShapesBlue said:
Dude I hate to be the burden of bad news but I doubt it will ever be unlocked on kk with VZW. It's a nice idea but sadly no devs are willing to give this a shot. I kind of don't blame them. VZW will screw us all over rather than let us do what we want to the devices we have
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You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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sk8terboy13 said:
Galaxy s3 kitkat boot loader unlock bounty ideas lets see what we can come up with
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I'm a pretty amateur dev when it comes to android. I have this phone and its killing me that no one has even tried to do anything about this in recent months, I seriously want to try a software mod for this horridly annoying dilemma before doing an emmc replacement. If I'm not mistaken loki project failed yes?
poppers162 said:
You don't have to be a dev to give it a shot. There's a couple non-devs taking a look at the bootloader and stuff. Just picking at it. Seeing what does what. Who knows. It could happen.
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Well I agree I'm just being realistic here. With any trial and errors there will always be failure, while there may be a triumph I just don't think any will work
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You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
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You're not going to get an unlocked bootloader unless you have a mole inside Verizon or Samsung. , but I am surprised that no one has created a safe strap method for this device.
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lepa71 said:
I thought there is one in developers section. Am I missing something?
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You are missing something, unless you are on the 4.3 locked bootloader , there is a 4.4.2 beta safestrap but no official build and very few ROMs.
If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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If they have used the same method as they did for the S4, Note 3 and S5 then it is very doubtful you will get an unlock method as SRDs and RDs have tried to unlock them with no success. You should consider either changing carrier or changing to a phone that is unlocked or can be unlocked. I doubt there is enough hackers to send a proper message to Verizon because the locked bootloader combined with Knox is attractive to the Exchange customers consisting of the military and corporate America...big bucks for big Red.
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Completely agree.
Development is essentially dead on the S3 if you are on 4.4. Safestrap isn't even an attractive option because you can't run a rom without the 4.4 stock kernel. You have to rely on only touchwiz roms running kitkat only. Not too many developers are going to be around who would develop such a rom. This is also unique to the Verizon variant, which makes it particularly difficult for other developers from different variants trying to help out. Extremely annoying.
There are huge bounty threads for the S5 and S4 threads trying to get bootloader unlocked. I guarantee that capable devs are trying everything they can, but bootloader hacking is expensive and difficult as a lot of hardware or low level exploits can irreversibly hard brick a phone. Devs usually only have one phone, and simply can't afford to guess on the correct exploit to prevent an irreversible brick.
For example, the devs who unlocked the bootloader on the HTC m8 said they burnt through some phones in order to get the bootloader unlocked. They never said exactly how many phones, but I certainly believe them. To pay for the cost of the devices, they are charging $25 per device for their sunshine app to unlock the bootloader . You could agree with this approach or not, but considering how expensive and dangerous the process is I think the cost is completely justified. Plus it keeps them making exploits continuously throughout the life of the device.
I think a lot of people just think that these exploits aren't as dangerous as they actually are. As a comparison, achieving root has way less of a chance of bricking a device so 1 phone per developer is enough. It's simply looking for a way to inject a file in the system partition, and if it fails then nothing happens. Unlocking a bootloader is a completely different story, and something that takes an immense amount of research and understanding before an unlocking is even attempted. If you miss with a bootloader exploit, then that phone is gone, JTAG won't even fix it.
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Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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bobloblaw1 said:
Yeah, I think we only have a few options at this point:
1. Stay on 4.3 TW and keep an unlocked BL
2. AOSP 4.4 and keel ublcked BL
3. Lock your device with 4.4 TW
4. Ditch VZW.
Id be shocked if his phone gets unlocked for all of the reasons peoole have stated above. I think people forget that this devoce was only unlocked to begin with due to a leak -- the original security was never cracked and it has only gotten more difficult. Maybe if it was 2 years ago we would have a shot, but it is looking more and more like the ship has sailed.
#4 is looking better and better.
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
astonmartin214 said:
wow great news I won't then keep this close & see what becomes of this
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#1 is incorrect cause it's locked also only 4.1.2 has unlocked BL
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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okay my mistake thought it was locked also thank you for clearing that up
well now I think there could be light at the end of the tunnel for 4.4.2 BL unlocking
BadUsername said:
Well here's some good news.
Dan Rosenberg released a proof of concept tz exploit that works on a myriad of devices.
The s3 isn't listed, but it might work on it anyway. Keep looking in the s4 forums for an exploit to come out soon. It definitely won't work on the s5.
If you guys are lucky, the s4 exploit will work on the S3. Don't take any system updates from Verizon until this is ironed out, could mean an unlocked bootloader for everybody.
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Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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Shallow_1 said:
Do you have a link where I could check this out?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500826
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landshark68 said:
#1 is correct. Check the S3 android development section and you will find several ROMs based on 4.3 ML1. If you had an unlocked bootloader on 4.1.2, you could flash one of these ROMs and keep the unlocked bootloader. As long as you didn't take the OTA to 4.3 ML1, your bootloader was still unlocked. Before I switched to an S5, my S3 was running the latest wicked sensations ROM based on 4.3 ML1, and my bootloader was still unlocked.
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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Didn't know you already upgraded to an S5. How is it?
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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S5 is great. Noticeable difference over the S3. Overall size is pretty close to the S3, but the screen size is noticeably bigger. And the screen is so much brighter, crisper, clearer, and more vibrant. Battery life with the S5 blows the S3 away. 2800 mAh battery instead of a 2100 mAh battery, and the radios must be better also because I actually get a signal in my office when I never got one on the S3. Pictures on the camera seem to be much better, especially when using the "beauty" feature. I haven't even rooted it because everything is working so well.
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Haha, exact same with me. I unlocked my bootloader and I'm still running this thing unrooted. I don't see much of a reason to root right now except for titanium backup. These latest batches of phones are pretty awesome.
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Stupid question maybe, but where are all the roms? Has the Verizon S6 not been rooted yet? I'm assuming that is why......?
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Stupid question maybe, but where are all the roms? Has the Verizon S6 not been rooted yet? I'm assuming that is why......?
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You are correct. There is no root for the Verizon S6, the international has root and ROMs but not us.
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You are correct. There is no root for the Verizon S6, the international has root and ROMs but not us.
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:crying::crying::crying:
Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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I hate to be a stick in the mud but I agree. Especially since this phone is on lollipop. The N4 might have a chance on KK but I don't see that happening soon either. On the bright side this S6 is running great the way it is and has some nice features so I'm thankful for that.
You know I used to root to get decent performance of of a lagging phone, but I'm not sure I'm missing root that much. Now granted there are a few apps that I miss from no root. But I think I can live without root on this phone at the moment. Subject to change to
I'd love root for the ability to theme (theme store themes are garbage) as well as the ability too add things that should have never been removed. Stock browser, smart manager, etc.
Side note, I really hate that I can't draw on pics/screenshots like I could on my Note 3/4 and my s5. Samsung removes features I use in favor of what? /rant off
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Currently no root, likely never will be. See Verizon Note 4 forums if you wanna know what it will be like to own a Verizon s6
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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I heard FoxFi works for this without root.
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I heard FoxFi works for this without root.
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Not sure if I would wanna trust that. I would feel safer being rooted. What's the next best device I can get and will be able to root/rom etc? I'm thinking wait for the G4?
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Why do you say it will "likely not be rooted"? Is Lollipop that much harder for the devs to root or something? Or is support dwindling?
I need root mainly because I need to be able to tether for my job on a daily basis and I'm not about to dish out even more $ to VZW.....my unlimited data is my unlimited data and I'll use it how I please.
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Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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This is not entirely true and depends on your usage. I use automation apps and without root, you don't have the ability to turn on and off GPS, Data, etc. There are other benefits to root as well such as ad blocking.
chrisj22 said:
Ever since the Mid Galaxy S4 area rooting has been pretty much useless anyway. The most I can do with a rooted S5 is flash lightened TW software which I can do on a non rooted phone. You can flash anything like Cyanogen or custom kernels so rooting now a days is pointless. With that said though it would still be cool if we could
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And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
SotYPL said:
And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
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I think he meant to say you can't flash those because of locked bootloader
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SotYPL said:
And how exactly can you flash CM with locked bl and no root available?
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Yes I am wondering how tf that is possible also, lol........
Its three weeks in guys it'll gain popularity and will be rooted and most likely unlocked. Its hard to think this would be the first galaxy that isn't. Its not a low legacy device
AKShotgun said:
Its three weeks in guys it'll gain popularity and will be rooted and most likely unlocked. Its hard to think this would be the first galaxy that isn't. Its not a low legacy device
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As far as I know, the Verizon Note 4 still doesn't have root.
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You will never the get VZ S6 bootloader unlock.
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Poloasis said:
You will never the get VZ S6 bootloader unlock.
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Agreed. The S4 bootloader was never unlocked after the first firmware update.
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I miss root only for the fact that I grew to depend on Titanium Backup Pro to set up multiple profiles for apps on my device. Was super handy for all the games I played that I had different accounts for...
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
Trafalgar747 said:
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
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If on stock 4.4.2 you can't unlock the bootloader or run CM
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ShapesBlue said:
If on stock 4.4.2 you can't unlock the bootloader or run CM
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Wht not?
Owl_ said:
Wht not?
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The bootloader is locked on 4.4.2
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Trafalgar747 said:
I want to install Cyanogen Mod Marshmallow on my S3, but i need the bootloader to be unlocked if im not mistaken. I am running Android 4.4.2 incase that helps. Thank you for your time.
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There is absolutely no way to unlock bootloader on kit kat or newer, period. Attempting to use anything custom of any kind will only lead to a brick and then it requires JTAG to recover the device but even that isn't guaranteed.
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Droidriven said:
There is absolutely no way to unlock bootloader on kit kat or newer, period. Attempting to use anything custom of any kind will only lead to a brick and then it requires JTAG to recover the device but even that isn't guaranteed.
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Question: If I never intend to use the phone on a cell tower again - meaning I'm just using it at home on wifi - does that somehow allow me to do more than just root on 4.4? Even after debloating, this thing is getting really clunky and slow.
I wish there was a way to revert to a less-resource-demanding OS so that this phone could be faster for browsing, watching Netflix, controlling smart home stuff, etc.
tbtregenza said:
Question: If I never intend to use the phone on a cell tower again - meaning I'm just using it at home on wifi - does that somehow allow me to do more than just root on 4.4? Even after debloating, this thing is getting really clunky and slow.
I wish there was a way to revert to a less-resource-demanding OS so that this phone could be faster for browsing, watching Netflix, controlling smart home stuff, etc.
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If you have 4.4 then you're stuck with it. Your only other options are using Xposed or using Safestrap Recovery with modified stock ROMs but I think Safestrap is no longer available unless you find someone that has a copy somewhere, I think the modified stock ROMs are still available, not sure, I have the Straight Talk S3 and use the Verizon custom ROMs, never used Verizon S3 or Safestrap but I'm familiar enough with the Verizon S3 to know what you can and can't flash it with.
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ShapesBlue said:
The bootloader is locked on 4.4.2
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I always thought my locked bootloader was pre-locked by the company I bought it from! What was the reason they locked it?
Owl_ said:
I always thought my locked bootloader was pre-locked by the company I bought it from! What was the reason they locked it?
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Um no. It was locked down by Verizon. You can thank them for it. The real reason is because they like to make customers miserable. But no the real reason is they want to have control of everything and don't like it when customers can take control of their own devices
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