[Question] Double tap to wake on Nexus 5? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
So when android 5 was announced they said that devices like nexus 6 and 9 will get the feature to double tap to wake and google now always listening even when screen is off.
Are there any news regarding these features on nexus 5? Does the new preview gives any information on this?
Thanks!

Won't be on the N5....its a software/hardware relationship that just isn't possible on the N5.
The N5 gets a pedometer. ?
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Oh, and something to do with the screen hardware, right @Lethargy ? ?

KJ said:
Won't be on the N5....its a software/hardware relationship that just isn't possible on the N5.
The N5 gets a pedometer. ?
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Oh, and something to do with the screen hardware, right @Lethargy ? ?
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Yuh.
Lethargy said:
800 is just as capable as the 801. Low-power core is just used for a hardware pedometer instead of "always listening", as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.
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Lethargy said:
The low-powered core is only good for things that usually require wakelocks (i.e. always listening, music playing, hardware pedometer). Screen-off gestures are done at kernel level and does NOT require a wakelock, so the low-powered core is completely useless in that regard.
Only factor determining if screen-off gestures drains or not is how power is provided to the panel. If it's possible to power the digitizer on separately, then it uses less battery. If you have to power the entire panel on, it'll use more. Either way, it's the exact same thing and not really done much differently across all devices; just make sure the digitizer is powered in any way and wake the device (or whatever) on specific gestures.
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Lethargy said:
Yuh.
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If its a legal issue then why are there Kernels that support DT2W? Not trying to come off as a smarta** xD just was wondering.

TheROMGuy said:
If its a legal issue then why are there Kernels that support DT2W? Not trying to come off as a smarta** xD just was wondering.
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Its two separate quotes, first one is for always listening and second is for tap to wake.

Lethargy said:
Its two separate quotes, first one is for always listening and second is for tap to wake.
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Ohh I see! Thank you for the reply!

Its s a shame....but nexus 6 is too ???
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Apps for Nexus 5 Pedometer

Hey guys,
Anyone know of a good app to use for the Nexus 5 built in pedometer sensor? Highly overlooked, but if low powered enough, might be interesting alternative to the Fitbits of the world. What apps would you use?
-OA
Confirmed:
Moves (Play Store) - Updated 11/1 for Nexus 5 support.
Over Achiever said:
Hey guys,
Anyone know of a good app to use for the Nexus 5 built in pedometer sensor? Highly overlooked, but if low powered enough, might be interesting alternative to the Fitbits of the world. What apps would you use?
-OA
(I can update this post with suggestions below)
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hmm...i thought only android 4.4 was getting support for this feature. I do not think the Nexus 5 actually has this chip....
someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. I hope I am wrong.
This is from the consumer website:
Step counting built-in
When you use fitness apps like Moves on Nexus 5, the phone acts as a pedometer to count steps. Android 4.4 and updated hardware make this a more battery-friendly way to measure your activity.
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From the dev website
Step Detector and Step Counter
Android 4.4 also adds platform support for two new composite sensors — step detector and step counter — that let your app track steps when the user is walking, running, or climbing stairs. These new sensors are implemented in hardware for low power consumption.
The step detector analyzes accelerometer input to recognize when the user has taken a step, then triggers an event with each step. The step counter tracks the total number of steps since the last device reboot and triggers an event with each change in the step count. Because the logic and sensor management is built into the platform and underlying hardware, you don't need to maintain your own detection algorithms in your app.
Step detector and counter sensors are available on Nexus 5, and we're working with our chipset partners to bring them to new devices as soon as possible.
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Over Achiever said:
This is from the consumer website:
From the dev website
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Well you mentioned one there, Moves. It's free, I am tryign it for a day in conjunction with my fitbit to see how they correlate
Over Achiever said:
Hey guys,
Anyone know of a good app to use for the Nexus 5 built in pedometer sensor? Highly overlooked, but if low powered enough, might be interesting alternative to the Fitbits of the world. What apps would you use?
-OA
(I can update this post with suggestions below)
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Moves: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.protogeo.moves
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vido.ardes said:
Well you mentioned one there, Moves. It's free, I am tryign it for a day in conjunction with my fitbit to see how they correlate
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Please post your results. I'm on the market for a FitBit force as well.
vido.ardes said:
I am trying it for a day in conjunction with my fitbit to see how they correlate
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Will this be with the Nexus 5? I'm interested to see if the step counter is accurate enough.
Also I wonder will this work with Google Now? They have a monthly step counter card.
Wouldn't it make sense for Google to incorporate this into an update to the My Tracks app?
jalanjkcarp said:
Wouldn't it make sense for Google to incorporate this into an update to the My Tracks app?
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Man that would be very cool; hopefully they do that!
Moves also tracks you via GPS, so it's going to still drain a lot of your battery. I'm waiting for another application to show up that incorporates this well, I don't really need the GPS part.
vido.ardes said:
Well you mentioned one there, Moves. It's free, I am tryign it for a day in conjunction with my fitbit to see how they correlate
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I would be very interested in what you find out!
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Moves crushed my battery, I uninstalled it after 1 day. Massive wakelocks
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I heard https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android.pedometer.lite should also work. Haven't tried it, yet.
Tried moves for 2 days, wasn't sure what was killing my battery, found out that was it. Uninstalled =(. Hoping they add support with Runkeeper!
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jalanjkcarp said:
Wouldn't it make sense for Google to incorporate this into an update to the My Tracks app?
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honestly when i first saw the news with the screen shot of moves i thought that was a google now feature
Moves kill the battery.. Use lots of gps.. I use the runstatic pedometer
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I'm pretty sure you can enable the activity summary card in Google Now and get counted steps.
laur3n.newm4n said:
I'm pretty sure you can enable the activity summary card in Google Now and get counted steps.
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How/where? I couldn't find it...
dagaetch said:
How/where? I couldn't find it...
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The wand in the middle (between the reminder finger and the three menu dots) lets you configure what shows up in Google Now. If you go into "Everything else" and say Yes to "Continue to get activity summary" I think it should start reporting it for you. Took me a while to re-find it, I was trying to find it in Settings.
laur3n.newm4n said:
The wand in the middle (between the reminder finger and the three menu dots) lets you configure what shows up in Google Now. If you go into "Everything else" and say Yes to "Continue to get activity summary" I think it should start reporting it for you. Took me a while to re-find it, I was trying to find it in Settings.
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Hmmm
everything else only has...from top down, weather updates for home, weather for work, temperature units, how do i commute, sports updates? how do i usually get around?.
seems more limited than the old phone's list of items.
*edit*
searched around found this..
This information isn't available unless you've turned on Location Reporting and Location History for at least one of your Android devices. If you've turned these on for more than one device, the Activity summary card reflects the one you used most often that month.
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which makes sense as to why i cant find that option
Can't find anything related to steps count in Google now
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But Runtastic looks good. will give a try for a week
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Do you think nexus 5 will get the okay Google with screen off like the nexus 6?

In the change log of android l it mentions it has okay Google with screen off. Does the nexus 5 have the necessary dsp hardware to make that happen?
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biggiestuff said:
In the change log of android l it mentions it has okay Google with screen off. Does the nexus 5 have the necessary dsp hardware to make that happen?
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nexus 5 does that already, as long as your plugged in. turn it on in the voice settings. funny thing though. you can say ok google when the screen is off, and search for anything, but it wont turn the screen on
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nexus 5 does that already, as long as your plugged in.
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Yeah that I know but the change log makes it sound as if it will be more like the moto x, where you wouldn't need to be plugged in.
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biggiestuff said:
Yeah that I know but the change log makes it sound as if it will be more like the moto x, where you wouldn't need to be plugged in.
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its possible. but the nexus 5 wont be able to do it then, as it would just kill your battery.
simms22 said:
its possible. but the nexus 5 wont be able to do it then, as it would just kill your battery.
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I'm guessing the snapdragon 800 isn't capable which is why the moto x opted for at least the 801. Don't know really but I was hoping someone might know. Time will tell I guess.
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Motorola uses the fabled "low power core" to run active display and touchless control. Without that, both features will destroy any devices battery.
Just like the N5 has a pedometer running in a similar way. LG has tap to wake, as does the M8. That's why tap to wake is a huge battery drain on the N5.
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KJ said:
Motorola uses the fabled "low power core" to run active display and touchless control. Without that, both features will destroy any devices battery.
Just like the N5 has a pedometer running in a similar way. LG has tap to wake, as does the M8. That's why tap to wake is a huge battery drain on the N5.
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Double tap to wake drains on the Nexus 5 because you can't just keep the digitizer on, you have to keep the entire panel on. On devices where it doesn't drain, you can power them on separately. Nothing to do with the low-powered core.
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biggiestuff said:
I'm guessing the snapdragon 800 isn't capable which is why the moto x opted for at least the 801. Don't know really but I was hoping someone might know. Time will tell I guess.
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800 is just as capable as the 801. Low-power core is just used for a hardware pedometer instead of "always listening", as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.
Lethargy said:
Double tap to wake drains on the Nexus 5 because you can't just keep the digitizer on, you have to keep the entire panel on. On devices where it doesn't drain, you can power them on separately. Nothing to do with the low-powered core.
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800 is just as capable as the 801. It's just used for a hardware pedometer instead, as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.
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Smarty pants! ?
Alls I know is I have it now and it's terrific. ?
I guess we'll find out soon. Android L is being released Friday for the n5 right? I guess there is no plausible way for lollipop to change the function on the low power core on the n5 to use it for listening instead of a pedometer.
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KJ said:
Smarty pants! ?
Alls I know is I have it now and it's terrific. ?
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Traitor
But yeah. The low-powered core is only good for things that usually require wakelocks (i.e. always listening, music playing, hardware pedometer). Screen-off gestures are done at kernel level and does NOT require a wakelock, so the low-powered core is completely useless in that regard.
Only factor determining if screen-off gestures drains or not is how power is provided to the panel. If it's possible to power the digitizer on separately, then it uses less battery. If you have to power the entire panel on, it'll use more. Either way, it's the exact same thing and not really done much differently across all devices; just make sure the digitizer is powered in any way and wake the device (or whatever) on specific gestures.
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I guess we'll find out soon. Android L is being released Friday for the n5 right? I guess there is no plausible way for lollipop to change the function on the low power core on the n5 to use it for listening instead of a pedometer.
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What is being released Friday is an updated preview
scottharris4 said:
What is being released Friday is an updated preview
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Hopefully that have most of the features for us to test out
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I doubt the preview will have all the features. From the looks of it, it doesn't even have most of them. They're saving it for the official release. The preview didn't include the new/updated apps either.
Anyway, the N5 isn't likely to get the feature you're asking about. It has to be enabled and setup with the processor's low power core. I don't think this can happen through an ota. From what I've heard it'll just be the new devices receiving that feature.
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Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
You can find the details in the lollipop specification in android official website
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It does work on my phone, the thing is that have to hit the power button then the lock screen comes up, if you say "okay Google" it does work like call or text but still the screen remain unlock. I haven't tried doing "okay google", " unlock screen"
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Sleep of death when using powernap

I've recently started to use Power NAP on my samsung s6 but i have been getting sleep of deaths (SOD's) had anyone else had this problem?
How did you fix it, mind sharing your whitelist?
up
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no one can fix this?
Add "android-system" to the white list
Quintz said:
Add "android-system" to the white list
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i also have the same problem even after whitelisting android system
df2014 said:
i also have the same problem even after whitelisting android system
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And you rebooted the phone after white listing?
Yes. Have tried on various roms but still get random death sleeps
df2014 said:
Yes. Have tried on various roms but still get random death sleeps
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Yessssssss, me too with the DEEP sleep. It happens too often sometimes...like for instance..right before I posted this reply, my LG V10 running 5.1.1, I had to hard reset my phone 3 Times in a row bc of the DEEP sleeping. I do love everything else about it tho bc it helps my battery life a good deal.
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...I just noticed the thread is for S6 but I couldn't find any other threads that specifically discussed this issue.

which phone is right for me?

hello, i am new to this xda thing and also to android. or i had a android before but that was loooong ago, like android 2.0 or something. i currently have a iphone and i want a android.
just few things:
- i just want to play subway surfers and phone with it. not much more
- i want it to be rootable
- long battery life
- i dont want the screen to break easly. my iphone screen broke not long after i got it.
i hope i posted this in right section.
thanks
First thing: What is your budget?
Also, for breaking screens... The bigger the device, the easier the screen breaks [emoji4]
Stachura5 said:
First thing: What is your budget?
Also, for breaking screens... The bigger the device, the easier the screen breaks [emoji4]
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something like 300 dollar would be nice
d9867eb said:
something like 300 dollar would be nice
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300 dollars... I need to think a bit & see with what I can come out because for now I have no idea [emoji52]
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something like 300 dollar would be nice
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Also, do you prefer ANY brand or some specific ones?
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300 dollars... I need to think a bit & see with what I can come out because for now I have no idea [emoji52]
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Also, do you prefer ANY brand or some specific ones?
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the last android phone i had was a samsung.
and maybe the long battery time isnt that important but i dont want it to be like my iphone. sometimes it dies even before i get off the bus in the morning.
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the last android phone i had was a samsung.
and maybe the long battery time isnt that important but i dont want it to be like my iphone. sometimes it dies even before i get off the bus in the morning.
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Well... The best option that I found, with a good performance & battery life for ~$300 is a Xiaomi RedMi Note 2. It's a pretty good phone, that can be rooted (or even comes pre-rooted out of the box). Has a 5" screen & runs on custom Android called MIUI that is loved all around the world [emoji1]
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Well... The best option that I found, with a good performance & battery life for ~$300 is a Xiaomi RedMi Note 2. It's a pretty good phone, that can be rooted (or even comes pre-rooted out of the box). Has a 5" screen & runs on custom Android called MIUI that is loved all around the world [emoji1]
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oh thank you very much! and thank you for info about big screen. that phone seems very intresting.

Real Always On Display

Hey, is there any chance to enable a real AOD on the OP7Pro?
like on the OP6 ?
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TROLOLOXYZ said:
Hey, is there any chance to enable a real AOD on the OP7Pro?
like on the OP6 ?
Best Regards,
TROLOLOXYZ
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Not at the moment but it might come with custom ROMs. Let's see
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rav101 said:
Not at the moment but it might come with custom ROMs. Let's see
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Anyone tried the Play Store app Always on Amoled?
JLine05 said:
Anyone tried the Play Store app Always on Amoled?
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I've been using it for the past few days.
Works perfectly for me.
Haven't come across any issues.
room511 said:
I've been using it for the past few days.
Works perfectly for me.
Haven't come across any issues.
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How bad is the battery life
Bradl79 said:
How bad is the battery life
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I took it off the charger around 6am, streamed music almost the entire day. Made phone calls, played some games, etc.. and just put it on the charger around 7pm.
Still had 40% left.
room511 said:
I took it off the charger around 6am, streamed music almost the entire day. Made phone calls, played some games, etc.. and just put it on the charger around 7pm.
Still had 40% left.
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Does it show the Fingerprint and allow faceunlock?
room511 said:
I took it off the charger around 6am, streamed music almost the entire day. Made phone calls, played some games, etc.. and just put it on the charger around 7pm.
Still had 40% left.
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Nice. You didn't happen to look at the % usage per the app did you?
room511 said:
I've been using it for the past few days.
Works perfectly for me.
Haven't come across any issues.
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How different is it from what we have natively (turning on when picking phone up)?
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Does it show the Fingerprint and allow faceunlock?
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I don't use face unlock so I don't know about that.
Double tap on AOD screen, apply fingerprint, boom your in. Works great.
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Nice. You didn't happen to look at the % usage per the app did you?
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I didn't sorry.
If I don't notice any issues after a couple days I don't go looking at what's using what.
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How different is it from what we have natively (turning on when picking phone up)?
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Not much difference at all really. Just that you have AOD. Double tap, unlock, no problems.
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I don't use face unlock so I don't know about that.
Double tap on AOD screen, apply fingerprint, boom your in. Works great.
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I didn't sorry.
If I don't notice any issues after a couple days I don't go looking at what's using what.
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Not much difference at all really. Just that you have AOD. Double tap, unlock, no problems.
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If you could screen record your AOD settings and post it to YT or here in the group I'd owe you big time. I couldn't get the sloppy UI to work for my OP and it gave me a headache so I just gave up. Maybe a how to video on YT would be amazing. TIA if you get a chance
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Anyone tried the Play Store app Always on Amoled?
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I've been using it for the past few days.
Works perfectly for me.
Haven't come across any issues.
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I gave it a try after learning about it from reading this thread and overall it's great, except for one flaw...
I like having lift to wake so I can use my fp to get into my phone. This AOD requires a double tap to wake.
So close!
rickysidhu_ said:
I gave it a try after learning about it from reading this thread and overall it's great, except for one flaw...
I like having lift to wake so I can use my fp to get into my phone. This AOD requires a double tap to wake.
So close!
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Oh man, try emailing the developer! Maybe they can work on support for us!
I'll email him once mine comes in as well
Thanks for testing
Tried Plus Beat?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vaf.vishal.plusbeat
Good find, I'll definitely be trying that one. Wonder if it works with lift to wake?
I found this used about 30%+ of my battery yesterday when I had it on all the time, heh. Also automatic face unlock (where you hit the side button and it auto unlocks) does not seem to work but you can still double tap then hit the face unlock button. Seems like at that point you would just use the fingerprint unlock. It does have a lift to wake option but I could never get it working (the AOD would never turn on when the feature was enabled). I ended up setting it to only be on when the phone is charging and works great on my charging dock so I can see important stuff while in bed. It is a beta so hopefully there will be some improvements in the future.
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Oh man, try emailing the developer! Maybe they can work on support for us!
I'll email him once mine comes in as well
Thanks for testing
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Emailed a couple days ago! Haven't heard back just yet though.
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I found this used about 30%+ of my battery yesterday when I had it on all the time, heh. Also automatic face unlock (where you hit the side button and it auto unlocks) does not seem to work but you can still double tap then hit the face unlock button. Seems like at that point you would just use the fingerprint unlock. It does have a lift to wake option but I could never get it working (the AOD would never turn on when the feature was enabled). I ended up setting it to only be on when the phone is charging and works great on my charging dock so I can see important stuff while in bed. It is a beta so hopefully there will be some improvements in the future.
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Yeah if this app switched over to the stock ambient display on lift, it would be the perfect AOD solution in my opinion.
Who Am I? said:
Tried Plus Beat?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vaf.vishal.plusbeat
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Mibuix0r said:
I found this used about 30%+ of my battery yesterday when I had it on all the time, heh. Also automatic face unlock (where you hit the side button and it auto unlocks) does not seem to work but you can still double tap then hit the face unlock button. Seems like at that point you would just use the fingerprint unlock. It does have a lift to wake option but I could never get it working (the AOD would never turn on when the feature was enabled). I ended up setting it to only be on when the phone is charging and works great on my charging dock so I can see important stuff while in bed. It is a beta so hopefully there will be some improvements in the future.
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To be clear, did Always on Amoled or Plus Beat eat 30 percent?
JLine05 said:
To be clear, did Always on Amoled or Plus Beat eat 30 percent?
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Always on. I actually started using this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson
I think it uses a little less battery, has way more features, and is a lot less buggy.
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Always on. I actually started using this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson
I think it uses a little less battery, has way more features, and is a lot less buggy.
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Its a good app but sadly auto lock dont work and also when the AOD is activated, it messes up the phone's screen on time as well because it's taken into account. Used the premium version for quite sometime now

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