I noticed my jpg pictures size and quality dropped after 38R OTA update. Tried all settings not much difference. Anyone else with this problem?
- Raw - two photos 1 dng 16mb and preview 1.73mb
- JPG 100% quality 1.44mb
- JPG 95% quality 2.89mb
- JPG 90% quality 1.91mb
Mine used to do this before the update if i remember correctly.
But just for a quick comparison i just took 2 photos in auto:
- JPG 100% quality - 1.37mb
- JPG 95% quality - 2.87mb
HDR:
- JPG 100% quality - 1.81mb
- JPG 95% quality - 3.41mb
indesisiv said:
Mine used to do this before the update if i remember correctly.
But just for a quick comparison i just took 2 photos in auto:
- JPG 100% quality - 1.37mb
- JPG 95% quality - 2.87mb
HDR:
- JPG 100% quality - 1.81mb
- JPG 95% quality - 3.41mb
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Well this is just too small for 13MP camera... My were at least 7mb before update.
I also noticed that the pictures aren't widescreen.. Was that always the case? If you want 16:9 you need to go to 9.7MP
JohnyR21 said:
I also noticed that the pictures aren't widescreen.. Was that always the case? If you want 16:9 you need to go to 9.7MP
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That's always been the case.
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That's always been the case.
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Cool thanks What's the difference between 100% and 95% quality. Why do people choose 95?
I think people choose 95% because they're under the impression they it gives you the same quality but at a smaller file size.
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I think people choose 95% because they're under the impression they it gives you the same quality but at a smaller file size.
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95% setting gives you a larger file size compared to 100% and quality is better[emoji4] .
If you look to some comparisons, anything above 80-85% is really - really - good and enough.
I always use those values
On 95% using 13mp, I get a file size of 6.** and I'm on 33r.
Just a question. How come 95% is the best (or largest)?
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And BTW, the default was 90% cause I'm pretty sure I haven't changed it
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jma9454 said:
On 95% using 13mp, I get a file size of 6.** and I'm on 33r.
Just a question. How come 95% is the best (or largest)?
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And BTW, the default was 90% cause I'm pretty sure I haven't changed it
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good for you My pictures were also 4-7mb before the update. And 95% being a large file doesn't make a sense.
I know "Quality" is rather subjective but I find that pre-update photos look much better? When I zoom in on to things, there just isn't the same amount of definition as pre-38? Anyone else?
I did a short Test series and found that either 85 or 95 looked the best.
Well I'm still not happy with it, but I guess it's the best you could expect from such small sensor.
95% btw created the largest file with 2.4 MB
Size matters!
I used to have an LG G2 (with CM11 M11). The camera is said to be 13 Mpx, the same as the 1+ One, where I am running CM11 M11.
In both cases I have been using 100% JPEG.
With the LG G2 I used to get 3 to 4 MB images (full sun light outdoor pictures) average, with a top of 9.1 MB.
With the 1+ One I am getting 2 to 3 MB images (again, with full sun light) average. Top has been so far 4 MB.
Surely quality is subjective, but I would say that a 2 MB image can hardly be of higher quality than a 6 MB or 8 MB one: the more bytes, the more information. More or less.
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yo.
I'm a new member, so I can't post links, but if you re-attach this:
lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=1&ma1=291&mo1=1380&p1=10848&ma2=291&mo2=1344&p2=10632&ph=2
it's very interesting. The Desire S seems to have a lot better image quality than the IS, which really looks crappy IMO.
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Monkeybrew said:
it's very interesting. The Desire S seems to have a lot better image quality than the IS, which really looks crappy IMO.
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From the Desire S <-> Incredible S comparison, the detail and contrast seem much better on the DS. Color balance is much better too.
I had seen comparisons with the Arc (which has a very good camera) and got the impression that the camera was a weak point on HTCs; I had resigned myself to having a below-average phone camera in exchange for more memory/storage and a nicer UI than the SE phone.
But having taken a few pictures and a little bit of video with the DS, I'm fairly pleased with the results. I may post samples here later, if I can be bothered.
I've not gone to the trouble of pixel-peeping, and most of the photos I've taken have been outdoors in good light, but the camera on the DS seems okay.
Camera of the Desire S is awful. Terribly high compressed JPGs. Yes, the pics from Incredible S can only be even worse since this camera has 8 MPixel which must be even more terrible for an image sensor of this size. In most situations it will only capture noise.
But the interesting thing is, that the Desire S is even much worse than the Diamond II (my previous phone). It's the same 5Mpixel sensor. But the Camera application on the Diamond II had an option for 3 different Jpeg compression levels. I always had SuperFine enabled, which ended up id quite reasonable results. The cam app on the Desire S has no option for different compression levels. It produces 5 MPixel images with the size of 800 kByte. This can not be usefull.
I also tried an alternative camera app (Vignette). Images are far less compressed (about 3 MByte per image) but not a good quality.
Again, I know that optics of this size can not resolve 5 MPixel. But the quality of Diamond II images has been better (also 5 MPixel).
800 kb of a 5mpx photo xDD ?? thats a joke. my old w880 has a 2 pmx sensor with no AF (its pretty awful..) and IT makes 800 kb photos lol
xilw3r said:
800 kb of a 5mpx photo xDD ?? thats a joke. my old w880 has a 2 pmx sensor with no AF (its pretty awful..) and IT makes 800 kb photos lol
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OK, 800kB was a bit overdrawn. But 1,3MB is a typical size of a 5MPix image on the Desire S.
i've heard that changing a certain line in the media_profiles.xml file on the nex7 allows 720p recording thru the front cam. will this work with the P3113 (7-inch)? sorry, i cant try right now, i haven't actually bought the tab yet. having just vga isn't a dealbreaker, but 720p is definitely a nice hack.
heres the post for the nex7 hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868962
thanks a lot,
thejrcrafter2
Not gonna happen. The P3113 from camera is 0.3MP
The largest image size supported by VGA camera is 640 x 480
640 x 480 = 307200
Divide it by 1000000 (or 1048576 for purists) and round off appropriately to get the value in MegaPixels
307200 / 1000000 = 0.3072 or 0.3 (rounded)
Not capable of 720P images.
The rear camera is capable
okay. i think i might just wait for the galaxy tab 3, since it might come out at the end of the month.
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okay. i think i might just wait for the galaxy tab 3, since it might come out at the end of the month.
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Yeah, I don;t care, if I am going to take a quality video I will use my camera not a tablet. Better lens, better sound, better everything
DigitalMD said:
Yeah, I don;t care, if I am going to take a quality video I will use my camera not a tablet. Better lens, better sound, better everything
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Yeah, that's true, only problem is you cant video chat w/ a point&shoot cam, and its not all that likely that I will be carrying an extra camera with me all day. Oh well.
So we can tweak the camera for better resolution.......
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sickysticky said:
So we can tweak the camera for better resolution.......
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Yes. steps follow>
1. Get drill and drill out current camera, make a hole big enough for a larger camera with more pixels.
2. Epoxy new camera in place.
3. Remove motherboard and solder in new camera.
4. ........................
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thejrcrafter2 said:
Yeah, that's true, only problem is you cant video chat w/ a point&shoot cam, and its not all that likely that I will be carrying an extra camera with me all day. Oh well.
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There's a video chat program that supports and actually transmits 720P on Android.?
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Yes. steps follow>
1. Get drill and drill out current camera, make a hole big enough for a larger camera with more pixels.
2. Epoxy new camera in place.
3. Remove motherboard and solder in new camera.
4. ........................
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There's a video chat program that supports and actually transmits 720P on Android.?
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Lol... good one...:thumbup::sly::thumbup::beer:
Or tape a lense to the tab... but I was thinking back while my optimus v was getting cm7.2 the resolution for camera was increased significantly, but that was the devs cranking through hours of codes.
But still.....:what:good idea
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Thanks for the how-to digital. Looks simple enough. I may try it :beer:
Lol
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I am looking for a smartphone which can take good photos indoor/outdoor at night. Can someone put a 23mp original photo (original photo - maybe it can be uploaded to somewhere like prnt.sc). Other daytime photos will also be useful for me. Thanks for your efforts.
kursatgoker said:
I am looking for a smartphone which can take good photos indoor/outdoor at night. Can someone put a 23mp original photo (original photo - maybe it can be uploaded to somewhere like prnt.sc). Other daytime photos will also be useful for me. Thanks for your efforts.
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You can find a number of low light/night shots in the "Disappointed by the Z5 camera pictures quality: a critical comparison!" thread in the Z5 General subforum. Turns out that in order to get the best quality images from the Z5, users need to select the supersampled 8mp option (which turn out to be pretty great).
Here is a post containing recent low light/night photos with the Z5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64002554&postcount=630
ye... I'm waiting on sony to unleash the z5 camera true potential, I rarely use the 23mp option
kursatgoker said:
I am looking for a smartphone which can take good photos indoor/outdoor at night. Can someone put a 23mp original photo (original photo - maybe it can be uploaded to somewhere like prnt.sc). Other daytime photos will also be useful for me. Thanks for your efforts.
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Low light
Adrift98 said:
You can find a number of low light/night shots in the "Disappointed by the Z5 camera pictures quality: a critical comparison!" thread in the Z5 General subforum. Turns out that in order to get the best quality images from the Z5, users need to select the supersampled 8mp option (which turn out to be pretty great).
Here is a post containing recent low light/night photos with the Z5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64002554&postcount=630
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What's an ISO 64 and 50 photo got to do with low light? trust me you will not get those ISO's in low light.
In my opinion, this is one of the worst camera's from the Z series to date, especially in low light, noise reduction algorithm is ridiculously high in all shots. My frustration was also with the Manual mode where you are extremely limited by the settings you are able to select, ISO only available in 8MP mode from my first quick play last night...
I have posted photos from various other Z series cameras on flickr @ https://www.flickr.com/photos/dan-wilson/albums/72157635854728695
IMO the Z1 car picture on flickr @ISO800 is better than Z5 @iso200 that I took last night. I am sure a big part of this bad performance is also due to the amount of heat generated by the phone (hotter the sensor the more noise)
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What's an ISO 64 and 50 photo got to do with low light? trust me you will not get those ISO's in low light.
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Did you mean to reply to me? I didn't say anything about ISO 64 and 50.
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I am sure a big part of this bad performance is also due to the amount of heat generated by the phone (hotter the sensor the more noise)
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Wow, I never thought about that, looked it up just now, and yes, hotter CCDs produce noisier images!
Maybe you should place your Z5 in iced water before shooting?
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Did you mean to reply to me? I didn't say anything about ISO 64 and 50.
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Sorry no the link you provided was not low light as suggested
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ricodredd said:
Wow, I never thought about that, looked it up just now, and yes, hotter CCDs produce noisier images!
Maybe you should place your Z5 in iced water before shooting?
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It also part of the reason bigger sensor cameras take better shots noise wise, bigger surface area so able to stay cooler, especially during long exposures
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Sorry no the link you provided was not low light as suggested
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I guess I'm still confused. The link I provided certainly does have links to low-light pictures.
Here's Timaustin2000's low light pictures from that post in case you missed them the first time.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23131636795/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/22707632337/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23191896562/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/22919075159/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23286947165/
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I guess I'm still confused. The link I provided certainly does have links to low-light pictures.
Here's Timaustin2000's low light pictures from that post in case you missed them the first time.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23131636795/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/22707632337/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23191896562/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/22919075159/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/23286947165/
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Yeah I gave up looking after clicking on the first link and seeing it wasn't low light at all
You can clearly tell that the camera app on the s8 is trash why is it so bad? Cant they optimize the camera?
Just took the pictures with the same settings without flash left one is stock samsung right one is google pixel 2 app port
Could you share the APK you've used?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75118407&postcount=252
ivan290 said:
Could you share the APK you've used?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75118407&postcount=252
There doesn't seem to be portrait mode. How do I turn that on?
Stock is better in everything except portrait..
pogi.paul0119 said:
Stock is better in everything except portrait..
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And hdr+...
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Well, I wouldn't say that the stock app is "trash". Last year it was one of the best cameras and now it's trash? Probably not
Stock Cam still takes great pics in normal situations. And in low light it's better than the Gcam-port, because there is less noise in the stock app. But when taking portrait or HDR pictures... Damn that google cam is good!
By the way: There are some versions of the port, where HDR+ works even better than it does in the version with portrait mode(I'm on Exynos). I'm using "Gcam...1.3dAllinone". You can google this version or just wait one or two weeks until, there is a version, that can do both great.
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Well, I wouldn't say that the stock app is "trash". Last year it was one of the best cameras and now it's trash? Probably not
Stock Cam still takes great pics in normal situations. And in low light it's better than the Gcam-port, because there is less noise in the stock app. But when taking portrait or HDR pictures... Damn that google cam is good!
By the way: There are some versions of the port, where HDR+ works even better than it does in the version with portrait mode(I'm on Exynos). I'm using "Gcam...1.3dAllinone". You can google this version or just wait one or two weeks until, there is a version, that can do both great.
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If you can post photos from two cameras .. so we can compare the two..
pogi.paul0119 said:
Stock is better in everything except portrait..
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the second is clearly better !!
Gcam port is not even better. It's way better than stock Samsung camera apk. Gcam produces more natural pics. Not oversharpened like Sam does. Just try it and judge by yourself. Easy.
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I guess it's subjective how you feel about quality.
Attached are both HDR images, one with the latest stable GCam (without portrait mode) and the other taken with the Samsung camera. Both taken without messing around with any settings other than enabling HDR.
The image with the Samsung camera is much bright and less compressed with an ISO of 200, whereas the the GCam image is darker, way more compressed and an ISO of 349.
I noticed the Samsung camera has a faster shutter speed which is interesting considering how bright the image is.
Anyway I'll let you judge the rest for yourselves.
What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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maderos said:
What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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Around 6MB with SamCam and 3MB with GCam.
I have just downloaded the 1.5Beta2 from Arnova so will test this out. Not sure why the image flipped when I uploaded it but they were both same position.
Will post more images after more tests. Probably some outdoor tests.
MrDanMak said:
Around 6MB with SamCam and 3MB with GCam.
I have just downloaded the 1.5Beta2 from Arnova so will test this out. Not sure why the image flipped when I uploaded it but they were both same position.
Will post more images after more tests. Probably some outdoor tests.
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BTW: HDR is best used in situations, where you have very bright and very dark areas in the same picture. For example taking a photo against the sun. That's where Google's HDR+ really shines. At least in my opinion.
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What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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Ok, much better results with GCam this time round. First pic is the GCam result with the following output:
ISO: 50
Shutter speed: 1/454
File size: 2.7MB
SamCam result output:
ISO: 40
Shutter speed: 1/564
File size: 7.8MB
Really interesting to see better colour with GCam. On closer inspection I see that SamCam produces better detail. Might be to do with B-S-G settings maybe.
My GCam B-S-G:
Config HDR+: Nexus 6 Auto
Model: Pixel 2XL
HDR+ Parameters: Default
Let me know if any changes may produce better results.
Otherwise I'm pleasantly surprised. Let me know your thoughts.
Try to use higher setting for hdr+ mode. I got "high" and 100% output jpg file.
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maderos said:
Try to use higher setting for hdr+ mode. I got "high" and 100% output jpg file.
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I've now switched cams to the one I've linked to in my GDrive. It allows me to use Pixel 2XL as the Model and Nexus 6 Hdr+ Auto as the Config. HDR+ is set to Super High and Final jpg quality is set to 100%
Camera: MGC_5.1.016_7.0+C2API_v.1.3d_AllinOne.apk
Images are higher quality and higher in size with this version.
More photos to come later
MrDanMak said:
I've now switched cams to the one I've linked to in my GDrive. It allows me to use Pixel 2XL as the Model and Nexus 6 Hdr+ Auto as the Config. HDR+ is set to Super High and Final jpg quality is set to 100%
Camera: MGC_5.1.016_7.0+C2API_v.1.3d_AllinOne.apk
Images are higher quality and higher in size with this version.
More photos to come later
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thanks for sharing.
for HDR+ (not working portrait it's ok), tried from your link above, but can't get it work. any ideas? mine exynos version. only black screen.
for portrait im using from below link and it's work. in fact it's HDR function also works (no portrait from selfie cam yet though).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...camera-hdr-t3687312/post75118407#post75118407
Mine results with Galaxy S8 Active T-Mobile
I attached my results using stock and G-Cam. The properties of the pictures are attached too. The G-Cam has an orange basketball mark on the upper right corner.
Both have HDR enabled. I couldn't tell the difference though. ?
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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So did he record that first part in 4k 60fps WITH stabilization? Because it looks VERY smooth, audio was excellent and picture very naturally crisp. If the answer is yes, how come the other dude from the UK, in the first clip couldn't enable EIS?
BTW, audio recording is superb as per the opening piece in this video:
When the portuguese guy starts running I was mesmerized by the stabilization...
They're using pre-production units, perhaps the phone that UK lad got wasn't as ready as the other one? Let's wait and see how the actual production phones work... Can't wait!!
Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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Switch on subtitles in your language.
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Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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oooooooooh, SNAP!!! true that!! I did not realize that simple fact, thanks!
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
Trixanity said:
The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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I'm probably going to get this phone. 50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though. I hope 100,000 open+closes is the actual number. My LG G2 still gets use from a family member, so I could see it being an issue.
Either way, in real world it'll probably vary wildly between users and individual phones when it breaks (or not).
subhani said:
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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Chigz Tech Reviews additionally show us what SW version they tested in previous video and what updated SW version they tested in today's video.
So we can see that not all reviewers had their tested phones on the same SW version.
It is a pity that most reviewers doesn't bother to told us what SW version they tested, this is a pleasant exception.
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TheCookieButter said:
I'm probably going to get this phone.
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Me too
TheCookieButter said:
50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though.
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Forget that number from their marketing department and just imagine what their engineers said: 28 selfies daily for 5 years.
For me that is pretty enough.
And do you know that even traditional DSLR Cameras have a shutter life? I know that it is something different mechanically, but it doesn't last forever too.
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-true-...-that-shutter-count-the-camera-become-useless
subhani said:
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
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in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
Onepunchbro said:
in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
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Yeah, the stabilization at 4K60 is impressive.
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that. It's not that difficult to spot. People shouldn't look perpetually sunburned and I can't imagine anyone thinking it looks good as opposed to the overall saturated quality to both pictures and video which some people prefer for whatever reason. It's also strange that videos appear so different to pictures. You'd think they'd have similar tuning.
So Asus either need to give the option or just fix it. Any competent reviewer will mention how off the colors are.
Trixanity said:
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that.
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Asus knows about it, but the fix isn't out yet.