Has anyone heard/seen anything about the Ascend Mate 7 having the same issue of being bendable because of the metal body that the new iphones have?
Or, is this due to the entire body being made of metal? I think the Ascend Mate 7 and the other metal phones are only framed in metal.
I highly doubt it. It's very unlikely that they use the same type of aluminum so the problem shouldn't be present on the Mate 7.
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I highly doubt it. It's very unlikely that they use the same type of aluminum so the problem shouldn't be present on the Mate 7.
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Well, this is why I'm asking. We don't know yet. Yet, the issues with the iPhone seem to surface within a week or two of users getting them. So, hopefully, by the time the US-variant is released, we'll know if it's a design flaw in just using aluminum/metal frames or if it's only iPhone-design related.
Now, I really don't mind waiting. Just wish there would be SOME news as to when the US-compatible version will be released.
I've been using an HTC One for the last year and a half which has a completely aluminum body. No bending whatsoever, not even if I forcefully try to do so. I've always been drawn to aluminum phones, never have any of them bent even a little bit nor is it a widespread problem among aluminum phones in general. This is pretty obviously a localized problem to the iPhone.
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I've been using an HTC One for the last year and a half which has a completely aluminum body. No bending whatsoever, not even if I forcefully try to do so. I've always been drawn to aluminum phones, never have any of them bent even a little bit nor is it a widespread problem among aluminum phones in general. This is pretty obviously a localized problem to the iPhone.
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Thank you for the clarification in terms of the HTC One.
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Does anybody has got the problem with the ceramic surface which is shown in the following pictures??
Looks like a major problem with the production technology :-(
Looks more like markings of a drop to me.
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Yeah looks like a drop
Don't think the Micro Arc protects from drops.
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you drop it? micro arc oxidation didn't give protection from drops.
Guys,
When I first read this I thought the same thing that the device had been dropped... however I have just looked closely at my own device and the same thing is happening on the sharp edge on the left hand side
My device has NOT been dropped or mistreated in any way.
"It features aircraft 6,000 series aluminum which is treated with micro arc oxidation by blasting it with 10,000 volts of energy. This gives the metal a ceramic feel and causes it to become five times harder (that’s three times stronger than stainless steel).
The shell of the HTC One S is so durable that HTC claims that it does not even need a protective case. "
The shown devices were not droped. A lot of the One S look like this after one week of safely carrying . Belive me, your devices will show the same failure in approxamitly one or two weeks.
It looks like the brittle ceramic skin can't hold on to the flexible aluminum. Like I said major problem with the production technology.
The nice words of HTC are advertising words.
I am not surprised of the problem and I think it to be idiotic to have such a sharp edge. What else can you expect?
Is there anyone else who experiences the same thing?
Damn.. I really wanted the One S. Yet If the ceramic back is this easily damaged without dropping.. I might not get it. I hate cases.
Kamyu said:
Is there anyone else who experiences the same thing?
Damn.. I really wanted the One S. Yet If the ceramic back is this easily damaged without dropping.. I might not get it. I hate cases.
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Same here, this could be the only reason why I won't buy this phone. I never use cases because it makes the phone ugly imo. And I don't know if I want the grey version..
LOL...i noticed some spots up there too after reading this thread and was concerned at first but the white marks could be "rubbed-away" like the marks from fingernails on the back which was shown in a lot of videos ... just try it.
hey, they use this stuff for satelites...
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Not working here my friend
How bad is this problem? Do more people experience it?
Also, does it happen to the blue version as well? Otherwise I might change my pre-order to that..
Gosh that looks bad... Does it really go after rubbing as mentioned by jodue??
The blue one got another treatment. There is no ceramic surface which can come off.
There is no way to rub the damage away. The Oxidation to Al2O3 happens only under high temperatures. If the ceramic skin can't hold on the the aluminum it will be damaged permanently
Wow. This is making me reconsider my choice. Got a One S due for delivery tomorrow and might be tempted to send it straight back either for the grey one or for the One X having seen this.
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Wow. This is making me reconsider my choice. Got a One S due for delivery tomorrow and might be tempted to send it straight back either for the grey one or for the One X having seen this.
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Same here..
Though its not available in India yet , I was planning to buy it when it hits Indian market.
So if any One S user reads this, could he/she share some experiences with the ceramic surface? Even if you do not have any problems at all. It would be nice to find out if this is just a bad product, or a common problem..
I've had mine a few days and not dropped it or anything, it seems to have started on mine though. If it gets any worse over the next couple of days I'll have to take it back, not sure what to do though as I love the phone and don't like it as much in grey/blue
Anybody contacted HTC about this yet?
Trying to figure out what people have on their device.
VaporMg. Vapor-deposited magnesium coating on an aluminum frame. Dark matte color looks classy, feels great on the fingers, and adds surprisingly little weight. Very durable, though; it can take a drop onto concrete from three feet or so with just a scratch that only slightly mars the aesthetics; the case wasn't actually damaged.
Hell, with the Surface RT, somebody had one fly off the roof of their car at freeway speeds and then get run over, tossing it into the air again. There were dents and scratches, but the case was still intact and there was no functional damage to the tablet at all. VaporMg is some seriously tough stuff.
You can get thicker, heavier cases, but I don't really see much benefit.
However, this topic (like many other things), has already been discussed. Please use search before posting!
That's a great story, I'm looking it up now. I work in some extreme environments and worry about it.
Oh and I did search. I think one day we may have a better forum/topics area for our Q&A's that would definitely help.
Rodeo been there...
The surface is hardly a cheapy plastic android tablet. Its pretty much a block of metal with a screen. Hence why its so heavy compared to the competition
Pretty sturdy device. Made a hell of a bang in john lewis when I knocked it over, nearest assistant just laughed when he saw me worrying about if I had damaged it (I get paranoid over things that arent mine and the possibility of breaking them) and mentioned that the same unit I had knocked over had already had a meeting with the floor twice on the same morning they set the thing up in the first place.
If you're either real paranoid about the possibility of damage or work in an environment where there's a really high risk of damage, then getting a case makes sense I suppose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116266&highlight=case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970322&highlight=case
Also, in case you missed the joke: VaporMg is what Microsoft calls the way they make the shell of the Surface tablets (RT and Pro). It's not an external case. It is absurdly sturdy though, much stronger than the chassis on an iPad or most Android tablets.
Primary link to the car-ran-over-my-Surface story, with pictures: http://forums.wpcentral.com/surface-windows-rt/202040-surface-run-over-car.html
Might be a bad idea considering there's no surface case that leaves area for the vent and then again, as hot as the surface gets, it might melt/burn a hole in your case.
Still nothing? My Surface is suffering daily minor scratches and the skins don't hold up well. I just wish there was something that could clip to the back.
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Still wanting something here as well, had a cheap "leather" one for my RT, the Pro is thicker though so I need a new case :/
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Still nothing? My Surface is suffering daily minor scratches and the skins don't hold up well. I just wish there was something that could clip to the back.
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To be honest, I never had this problem when my skin. I also kept it in a slip case when I went out. I used this as my skin and I JUST took it off a few days ago to exchange my pro. After I took it off, it looked like I just bought a brand new pro. No scratches at all. Mind you, this pro slide across a concrete floor on it's back with the skin on a few times.
I've had my Z3 now for a couple weeks, came from a z2.
In my one year with the 2 I had no chips, obviously some scratches and scuffs but no chips.
My Z3 already has two chips on the top bezel one in the front and a smaller one in the back, is this a common issue?
I buy this phone because I hate cases so the dust/waterproofing is the big draw for me.
Sad to see these chips so soon..
Got the same issue here. Very bad though
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Got the same issue here. Very bad though
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Protective case is the way to go.
This may sound like comparing apple and oranges...
Imagine your car vs keys...nasty...or rubbing dust-sand on car...that is why people makes-uses protective cases...
Can u post some pictures? I intermittently use a case and sometimes not. I am leaning towards not putting a case on bcos a case seems hiding the beauty but this post bothered me. Do u own the black one?
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Beauty is not that hidden
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Beauty is not that hidden
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Actually I think with a protector like that, dust still finds its way in and scratches the phone anyway.
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Beauty is not that hidden
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I use a similar transparent case for mine but the feel in the hand with it bare is just awesome. I put it in the case when charging bec people/I might accidentaly kick the wire and send my Z3 flying. Lol
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Dunno... My phones are always naked and I never have any issues. There are scratches and what not, but that's what makes it special.
I have foil on the back and not a single spot on the metal body...
I'll never put a case on the I s thing, never did with my z2 either.
tempered glass front and back and that's it.
I also make sure my phones always in a pocket by itself.. Wasn't asking for advice on cases simply asking if this problem is wide spread.
Seems odd these company's change materials from one flagship to the next when the previous one clearly had a more durable finish.
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I'll never put a case on the I s thing, never did with my z2 either.
tempered glass front and back and that's it.
I also make sure my phones always in a pocket by itself.. Wasn't asking for advice on cases simply asking if this problem is wide spread.
Seems odd these company's change materials from one flagship to the next when the previous one clearly had a more durable finish.
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Sorry for off topic...
But nothing in the world happens by itself, if you scratch aluminum (not so scratchproof material) it will show marks. Never heard that on Z3 is used some kind of extra soft aluminum...to put it short...good luck...
Before I post this, I have a Pixel 2 on order and am in no way bashing for the sake of it. That being said, its pretty disappointing that the pixel 2 fairs so much worse that the original pixel. The bend at the end is especially sad to see, not sure why they put a weak point in the frame almost in the middle of the one side. That being said, not planning on cancelling as it ticks all the boxes I care about and I certainly don't plan on bending/sitting on my phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVKnt7H4zVc&t=0s
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i am getting the 2 xl but
i am somewhat disappointed in the bend test the rest was ok
After seeing the jerryrigeverything test, I definitely feel more cautious about how I handle the phone. I didn't want to get a case and instead opt in for just dbrand skin and screen protector. Now it looks like I at least need to purchase a bumper case
I find most of his points not something I care about.
He spent a ton of time scratching the hell of a lot of time etching the back of the phone when he made the point quickly at the beginning.
For me the phone is too slippery to not use at least a minimal case, then what is going to do all that damage.
If I put the phone on a pocket, it is a front pocket screen in with nothing on the pocket with it. I don't sit on it etc
All of my phones look almost brand new after using for a long time. I am very cautious with my equipment.
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I find most of his points not something I care about.
He spent a ton of time scratching the hell of a lot of time etching the back of the phone when he made the point quickly at the beginning.
For me the phone is too slippery to not use at least a minimal case, then what is going to do all that damage.
If I put the phone on a pocket, it is a front pocket screen in with nothing on the pocket with it. I don't sit on it etc
All of my phones look almost brand new after using for a long time. I am very cautious with my equipment.
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The point he made was pretty crucial though. If material of pockets etc can discolour the paint on the phone, thats a disaster from the start.
The OG Pixel was very poor when it came to durability due to the soft aluminium used as opposed to the harder aluminium of more premium devices like iPhone and OnePlus 5.
The paint used will fare even worse, and unlike anodized aluminium, minor scratches wont simply "rub off", and rather, will likely be permanent.
Thats not even considering the fact that it will chip from any impact.
Also the OG Pixel suffered even when protected with the best case. A tiny piece of dirt can cause chaos if it manages to get in between the phone and case due to the soft metal, so the same will likely apply here.
Baffles me that Google have dropped the ball on hardware again.
To be honest I am a bit disappointed that Google charges so much for these phones and they still not as strong as should be.
Saying that, 6p snapped in half and during my 2 years with it not had a issue with durability so I believe my Pixel 2 will serve me well till Pixel 3 is out
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To be honest I am a bit disappointed that Google charges so much for these phones and they still not as strong as should be.
Saying that, 6p snapped in half and during my 2 years with it not had a issue with durability so I believe my Pixel 2 will serve me well till Pixel 3 is out
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I agree I had a 6 plus when bend gate went down. I thoroughly in a UAG case and didn't worry about it. I the. Gave it to my 13 yr old daughter and she had no issues. Really I cant recall even snapping a phone ever.. this is a non issue. I feel good about going with the Pixel 2 over the XL I feel it's been less issue prone.
I am in construction, and my phone sits in my pocket all day while I am working. It was in my pocket without a case all day on Friday, since my Otterbox hadn't arrived yet, and it did just fine. Since then I have had the case on it, and I don't worry about it.
My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
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My phone is about 14 days old. Already have a crack along the antenna line. love the phone otherwise and just want to know if anyone else has the issue. I always have it in a case.
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Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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Don't know what kind of case you have. I bought the tech 21 it's really rigid. I won't be sitting on this phone lol. In the video he use an awful lot of force I'd never put that kind of force on my phone.
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I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
Well.. send it it since you still have warranty?
Let's see how widespread an "issue" this is really going to be. I bet it won't be at all. [emoji1]
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I have a case that is more on the soft side but I haven't really done much to my phone besides put it in my pocket.
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Was it your back pocket?
I smell a troll that saw a youtube video! LOL
I called support yesterday after reading the reports. Tier 1 rep went to Tier 2 to find out. He claimed that this would be covered by warranty barring other evidence of accidental damage - ie; fired from a cannon directly into a woodchipper. I guess I can't play hacky sack with the thing.
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Wow that is so sad! I saw Jerry rigs strength test and it cracks during the bend test at 4 points where the antenna is. Oh god this phone is a nightmare then
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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Why exactly does that make this phone a nightmare? The pressure they put on this phone in the test is WAY more than anyone would typically put on it. Put it in your back pocket and sit down, probably, but that would likely be any phone. I've had a ton of different phones, and never, ever had one bend. Even my Blackberry pearl, EVO, or nexus s. Those were way before phones were very sturdy. I seriously doubt most folks will bend this phone.
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he forgot this wasn't a reddit post.
No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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Seems like it's a big F for the glossy finish for the black variant. You could try to warranty it out and see what happens.
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No cracks BUT I have official Google case for the xl (grey fabric) and just from taking it in/out of case some of the paint near the seam is coming off. WTF Google!!?? All black variant so I'm pretty pissed. Love the case but how the hell!? It's been in a case since minute 1 and never spent a second naked in my pocket or otherwise.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
I agree. I have the Pixel fabric case and find it impossible to take off. I find a good way is to take off the left side completely first. Don't try to take off from the top or bottom.
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So as soon as you put it in the case this happened? Well it had to have since it was never outside a case for even a minute. But then you are taking it in and out of the case therefore it's been out for some time. I'm slightly confused as to if it's been out of a case or not. Nonetheless, I had a fabric case on my P3a and that thing is nearly impossible to get off. I did take it off once before the final time and it took me quite some time to get the phone out without damaging it. I'm not sure if the 4xl is the same but you definitely should get a replacement, put it in the case and leave it there.
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Sure I take it out but it's never touched a surface and never been in my pocket without a case. Primarily using new Pixel 4XL case from Google. It's pretty upsetting.
Probably the taking in and out of the case that's doing it. The stock Google cases fit very tightly, something that holds true with the two aftermarket cases I've also purchased. None of them were easy to get the phone in and out of and were/are tighter than I expect from a case. I mean so far the thing I've done with my phone that is most likely to break a phone is putting it in the cases I've owned.
On the bendy thing I don't buy it at all; it's not just a significant force applied but also done so in a very particular way on the very tip of the ends with a fulcrum in the middle. Try and imagine how you will apply a similar loading to the frame in actual use and it isn't easy to come up with a scenario. Not saying they wont bend or cant be broken but I am saying that I would be very skeptical of anyone claiming they encountered this damage in normal use.
One last thought here is that I wonder or question where the bar is, how strong should the phone be? Obviously it should be able to stand up to the rigors of the day to day but are we starting to expect too much? I'm actually asking, not sure if I can define a realistic expectation for a phones strength. I do feel however that some people are asking too much from what with current technology is inherently going to be a somewhat fragile piece of electronic equipment.
One question did they ever have a bend test for flip phones? Short answer no! Why they would snap in half. I agree I think we are expecting these phones to be tanks.
Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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Here is a better question. Who puts a 1,000 dollar device in their back pocket like it's a .25 cent pack of gum? ?
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The real question is where are you finding packs of gum for 25¢?