Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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At the moment this is the best phone
Yep.
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Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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If you're not sure.can you share your invite with me..I'll share mine with you when your ready. Thanks
Think you can get a Galaxy Note3, LG G2, Nexus 5 or other 800/801 spec phone for 350 (US) dollars?
I got the Nexus 5 and the OPO is way better(faster, better camera, quality materials, great design)
It's still worth it now and will still be worth it in the next 6-9 months and beyond.
But be realistic: it might have a band to some degree or it might not. You might have to use the supposedly poor after-sales service or you might never need to.
I have a very slight yellow band at certain angles. Being in China, it would be much easier and cheaper to send it back than those overseas but I will not. It doesn't bother me.
Overall: it's a big phone. It's a high-spec phone. It's a (comparatively) low-cost phone.
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OPO blows the Nexus 5 out of the water. But who knows what the Nexus 6 will bring. I suspect that, if you are a diehard Nexus/pure aosp fan, the Nexus 6 would be a better choice (if you can live with subpar battery life). But if you like CM, the OPO is the best phone available. I'd say get it, and if you don't like it, sell it and get something else. You won't have any problem selling it for what you paid, and you might actually make some profit.
Way worth it. Typing this message on it
Don't know, just got mine and the volume buttons do not work at all. Now gotta wait another few weeks I guess and hope they answer my replacement request. Really bummed. Seems like a nice phone, but I cannot even boot into recovery with the thing to check stuff out.
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Honestly, its worth it for $350. But I might sell it and get he Nexus 6 depending what is the specs and price. CyanogenMod is always buggy. By the time its stable, then there is already next version of Android. I would pay $100 more for 64 GB Nexus 6
People keep complaining about the small issues here and there, but the updates keep rolling in every week or two, so I can't complain!
People say other phones are better built or designed nicer, or will just plain be faster, being released in the next few months, and they may be right too.
The point is this, to me anyway: If you want something for a great value with good build quality, and are willing to deal with a couple kinks as they continue to be worked out, then this is your phone.
If you want 100% cutting edge latest phone with 99% bug free, then wait and pay $800 for the next phone that comes out from someone else. But don't buy this expecting perfection, and then be pissy and complain about it like 25% of the people on here do
Just my opinion
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People keep complaining about the small issues here and there, but the updates keep rolling in every week or two, so I can't complain!
People say other phones are better built or designed nicer, or will just plain be faster, being released in the next few months, and they may be right too.
The point is this, to me anyway: If you want something for a great value with good build quality, and are willing to deal with a couple kinks as they continue to be worked out, then this is your phone.
If you want 100% cutting edge latest phone with 99% bug free, then wait and pay $800 for the next phone that comes out from someone else. But don't buy this expecting perfection, and then be pissy and complain about it like 25% of the people on here do
Just my opinion
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This guys opinion is pretty damn spot on I might add. Also asking in a forum is this worth it is really not a great thing to do. You cant get a definitive answer in a place like this. Also if you are on the fence then leave it alone and pass on your invite to others. Some will love some will hate it but its an electronic device which can be sold easily. No real risk factor at all.
Do what you like and feel comfortable with. I personally have little yellow banding which is not a big deal and everything else works as it should...
Worth it. My Notes 1/2/3 and Nexus 5 are all collecting dust now. The OPO is a superb phone.
It's absolutely worth it. Especially for that price.
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Be aware that it does have several hardware issues including the yellow stain/tint/hue in the bottom of the screen. Here are some reviews. If you think you can live with those issues the go ahead:
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I wouldn't be surprised if another article comes out about OnePlus. Several articles have already been written based on customer experiences via direct mail or tip boxes. If you are confident about the OPO and the company you purchased it from, you wouldn't/shouldn't be worried
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thedroideffect .com/yellow-band-is-normal-says-oneplus/
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Be aware that it does have several hardware issues including the yellow stain/tint/hue in the bottom of the screen. Here are some reviews. If you think you can live with those issues the go ahead:
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Not all devices are affected by the yellow banding. And what are the other issues you're talking about? Not a single problem with mine or my fiance's.
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Don't know, just got mine and the volume buttons do not work at all. Now gotta wait another few weeks I guess and hope they answer my replacement request. Really bummed. Seems like a nice phone, but I cannot even boot into recovery with the thing to check stuff out.
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Root the phone,install Quick boot and you can boot in recovery.
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Not all devices are affected by the yellow banding. And what are the other issues you're talking about? Not a single problem with mine or my fiance's.
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Agree, but if the one you get is affected Oneplus will not replace it. They will only give you a refund if the RMA is within 14 days and you have to pay return shipping.
There are quite a few of other issues like ghost touch detection, multi touch issues due to bad grounding, battery draining too fast, random WiFi connection drops, etc. Take a trip around their technical support forum.
Some of these do not affect all devices and some are supposedly going to be fixed by software ipdates . But still buying this phone right now is like playing lottery and it turns out you lose with a bad device then good luck with their customer support.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying do your research before buying and know what you are getting into and what to expect.
Oneplus had a real winner in their hands but the way they have been handling things look very shady.
Here are some links:
This guy just gave up because Oneplus never had the decency to reply back to him. To my knowledge all phones have this issue including mine which really doesn't bother me but it those how the company handled the problem.
forums.oneplus net/threads/touch-sensitivity-issues-a-letter-to-oneplus.73423/
WiFi issues, I myself don't have that issue but I have seen several post popping up about wifi disconnects:
forums.oneplus net/threads/wifi-issues-with-my-oneplus.95359/
I posted already links about the yellow band but here is another one explaining why it is not glue and in fact a hardware issue as state Oneplus:
forums.oneplus net/threads/i-found-what-causes-yellow-spot-on-my-phone.90949/
Battery issues:
forums.oneplus net/threads/battery-improvement-after-33r.95885/
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Agree, but if the one you get is affected Oneplus will not replace it. They will only give you a refund if the RMA is within 14 days and you have to pay return shipping.
There are quite a few of other issues like ghost touch detection, multi touch issues due to bad grounding, battery draining too fast, random WiFi connection drops, etc. Take a trip around their technical support forum.
Some of these do not affect all devices and some are supposedly going to be fixed by software ipdates . But still buying this phone right now is like playing lottery and it turns out you lose with a bad device then good luck with their customer support.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying do your research before buying and know what you are getting into and what to expect.
Oneplus had a real winner in their hands but the way they have been handling things look very shady.
Here are some links:
This guy just gave up because Oneplus never had the decency to reply back to him. To my knowledge all phones have this issue including mine which really doesn't bother me but it those how the company handled the problem.
forums.oneplus net/threads/touch-sensitivity-issues-a-letter-to-oneplus.73423/
WiFi issues, I myself don't have that issue but I have seen several post popping up about wifi disconnects:
forums.oneplus net/threads/wifi-issues-with-my-oneplus.95359/
I posted already links about the yellow band but here is another one explaining why it is not glue and in fact a hardware issue as state Oneplus:
forums.oneplus net/threads/i-found-what-causes-yellow-spot-on-my-phone.90949/
Battery issues:
forums.oneplus net/threads/battery-improvement-after-33r.95885/
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Honestly, a lot of the 'issues' I've seen talked about are just people not knowing how to use their device, or something that is out of the control of OnePlus (Google Play Services battery drain problem).
Where are you getting this information about OnePlus not replacing devices? It simply isn't true. I've seen multiple people report that upon opening a ticket for a valid fault they've been given the option of a replacement or a refund.
Don't get me wrong, I've also seen people complain about pretty crap customer support from the company, but that isn't the only kind of experience that people are having. Talking in absolutes like that is just wrong, and isn't really very smart.
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I got my One Plus One invite today but trying to decide if it's worth it. I currently have a HTC One M7 which is still running pretty well. Any comments from the community?
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As an example of my personal opinion of the OPO, somebody offered me a trade for their NIB Galaxy S5 (G900W8) and I didn't take it. It's a beautiful, inexpensive, functional, unlocked piece of well made hardware. You don't get the SAMOLED from Samsung or HTC speakers but then you also don't suffer from Knox or locked bootloaders or voided warranty from rooting your phone.
If you don't like it then sell it on. Everybody should get one.
I always wonder how people get their invites, how did you get yours?:cyclops:
Yes, buy it. I did and I don't regret it. It's easily unlocked, runs CM out of the box which is awesome, nice size (I have large hands though so take that as it is) and the one thing that surprised me is that it has good cell reception, it blows my nexus 5 out of the water and keeps pace with and even surpasses my moto x in signal in some areas.
So yes, buy it, you won't be disappointed.
Same question here
I just got an invite myself and I'm asking myself the same question.
I've been interested in trying a phone in the phablet category, I think that's mostly what has my attention, the screen size.
I currently have a N5, and I get a reliable 4 hours SOT and 24 hours standby with it on 4.4 and I love the optical image stabilization.
I think that's what I'd miss the most about my N5, I have somewhat shaky hands.
From what I've heard and read and my experience with cyanogenmod battery life, I don't think that there's going as huge of a difference in battery life and I really don't need more than my N5 gives me.
Also, I was kind of holding out for new phones that will support T-mobile band 12 for LTE.
Still that large beautiful screen calls out to me, lol.
If I can't decide by the end of the day, I may just buy it to give myself some more time to think about it.
I can sell it, if I decide against it.
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I always wonder how people get their invites, how did you get yours?:cyclops:
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To be honest I don't know how I got mine either. I was part of their forum just prior to announcement and have been entering every time I did see a change to try to win an invite.
But thanks everyone for your feedback I decided to buy, it's just too good to pass up.
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To be honest I don't know how I got mine either. I was part of their forum just prior to announcement and have been entering every time I did see a change to try to win an invite.
But thanks everyone for your feedback I decided to buy, it's just too good to pass up.
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Cool, Congrads. If you happen to have an extra invite sitting around, I don't mind taking it. ;p
ordered One
my friend got an invite this morning, his OPO profile account number was in 17xxx. He wasn't going to use it anyways so i grabbed it. Should see how many days it will take to ship.
I got my invite today at work & I spent the rest of the day asking myself the same thing. I got home & just ordered it; I didn't want to second guess myself anymore. I figured I could always sell it if I didn't like it. I'm on an LG G2 & was thinking about going to the G3, but this is almost half the price.
I also got an invite today, besdies the unattractive shipping, duties, and taxes in canada that rack up to about 100$ more, it's a beautiful looking devices and from a kickstarting company, why not have the first phone they make
Hi guys, so my friend needs a new phone but he also has a Dell chrome book which he carries around all the time. The problem is that he is very rational. He definitely wants a smartphone and loves stock Android... So he was going to buy a moto g 4g. After telling my friend about the miracle phone from one plus he really started doubting the moto but now he still wants to buy the moto because he has a got a chrome book and the one plus adds nothing to him over the moto g especially because it is so hard to get an invite and the first preorder ducked and it is 100 euro more... Can someone help me convince him to buy a one plus... Or is he right about his moto g being the smarter buy? Thanks!! Ps you got an invite you don't need, he is your guy
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Hi guys, so my friend needs a new phone but he also has a Dell chrome book which he carries around all the time. The problem is that he is very rational. He definitely wants a smartphone and loves stock Android... So he was going to buy a moto g 4g. After telling my friend about the miracle phone from one plus he really started doubting the moto but now he still wants to buy the moto because he has a got a chrome book and the one plus adds nothing to him over the moto g especially because it is so hard to get an invite and the first preorder ducked and it is 100 euro more... Can someone help me convince him to buy a one plus... Or is he right about his moto g being the smarter buy? Thanks!! Ps you got an invite you don't need, he is your guy
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The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.
this late in the game I would suspect that there are much better buys than the one plus one and the moto g for that matter.
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The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.
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You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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this late in the game I would suspect that there are much better buys than the one plus one and the moto g for that matter.
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Yeah? Like what? In Belgium, even the s4 and nexus 5 cost more than a oneplus-one
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You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.
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I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.
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sorry to hear your misfortune
OnePlusOne will soon get a upgrade to android L
And it's the smartphone with the best design on the market
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You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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Yeah? Like what? In Belgium, even the s4 and nexus 5 cost more than a oneplus-one
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Even the S5 ? What do you expect ? Are you for real ? The Oneplus One is a huge defect toy, thats why its only US$350.00. Its fast, it has an amazing battery life, but that's it.
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You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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Not really. My rma'd phone still has a very slight yellow band and touch issues, although its much better now (on acceptable grade), is still far from perfect. My old s3 is far better regarding touch sensitivity.
Its still a beast of a phone in everything else - battery for 2 days and 3gb ram are a whole new level for me.
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I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.
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Sorry to hear that... Hope you get a new functioning phone soon. Thanks for warning me
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Even the S5 ? What do you expect ? Are you for real ? The Oneplus One is a huge defect toy, thats why its only US$350.00. Its fast, it has an amazing battery life, but that's it.
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I said s4, of course the s5 is a lot more expensive, are you going to ditch the one plus? Or give it a last try?
I guess I am lucky to get a one plus one with no known issues. I only have access to lte band 4 but I did use the Qualcomm tools to enable the other bands and should be getting access to band 2 soon. I have no yellow colors and touch screen works great. I think most users that do not have issues are not posting in XDA or one plus forums. Only real issue I have is how slow it charges.
Other options might be a zte phone or Dell or other higher end China brands
I came form a N5 and my OPO build date is Oct. No issues what so ever. Love the phone, I still have my N5 to play with the dev version of L. The N5 runs fantastic with L, but I've not used it since I got my OPO. If you can afford the N6, I would certainly get it, but if you don't want to be under the thumb of the carriers, I don't think you can do much better for near the price/features of the One. Also, I got my N5 when it first came out and you would of thought it was the worst made phone in the history of phones. I remember the same thing with the IP5, antenna gate! Most of the people who complain, are very vocal. Most of the people who don't have an issue don't really post. Any of the Samsung have so much bloat on them and its such a pita to get the same functionality you get out of the box with the One.
Yeah certainly true, thanks man! But still they only sold half a million and I keep seeing these complaints pop up since the launch of the OPO in July, maybe part of it is true... And how is your battery life, is it consistent? I a almost planning on selling my LG g2 to my friend and buying the one plus myself if I can get an invite
With so many people having issues, I wonder why I don't have any issues, NEVER had a random reboot. No touch issues whatsoever with any ROM/KERNEL.
I have a very slight yellow band, but its not really noticable compared some of the pictures that I've seen
Hands down the best phone I've ever used
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The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.
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You mean those problems that only affect a small percentage of the total units sold? The problems that have been blown way out of proportion? It's ridiculous to say the things you're saying about this phone just because you're having a bad experience. You're the minority.
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With so many people having issues, I wonder why I don't have any issues, NEVER had a random reboot. No touch issues whatsoever with any ROM/KERNEL.
I have a very slight yellow band, but its not really noticable compared some of the pictures that I've seen
Hands down the best phone I've ever used
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That's because the overwhelming majority of these phones are perfect, just like any other smartphone, the problems only affect a small number of the overall devices sold.
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Yeah certainly true, thanks man! But still they only sold half a million and I keep seeing these complaints pop up since the launch of the OPO in July, maybe part of it is true... And how is your battery life, is it consistent? I a almost planning on selling my LG g2 to my friend and buying the one plus myself if I can get an invite
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The battery life is fantastic. The phone is fantastic. Don't listen to the whiners, they make it sound so much worse than it actually is. Every single smartphone on the market encounters bugs and the like. The fact is the people who have problems always stomp their feet and carry on like children, while the majority of the owners who have zero issues just enjoy their device. You don't see people creating threads just to say that their phone is working the way it should, and that's why the overly vocal complainers give the false impression that this phone is a lemon.
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small percentage of the total units sold? Good one... Sad fanboys.
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small percentage of the total units sold? Good one... Sad fanboys.
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Got proof? Didn't think so.
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I once did a poll, only about 5 percent of people couldn't use the phone at all, another 30 percent had small bugs but that's CM
I was waiting and hoping for something intresting to come out at MWC but nothing...
Im on the 50/50 boat on getting the OnePlus One
On one side, great hardware, good price, there is a decent amount of development on XDA, etc.
But just their forums are HORRIBLE (its like going back to kindergarden) but more important than that I still hear horrible stories about their customer support (or lack of). I thought it was getting better but I read somone had to wait 17 days from when they started a issue to get their phone repaired. He wasted 2-3 days convincing OnePlus that his hardware had a problem!
Also there is the issue of the "OnePlus Two" coming out. Obviously, even if it is more expensive, If I knew the OnePlus Two was coming shortly, I would wait it out and get that phone instead of this one. You can expect at least a tease from Sony/Samsung/Microsoft/HTC/etc. with their next phone but no idea from OnePlus.
I wanted to know good/bad/misc stories about the company and the product.
I have till Tuesday to decide which is when they sell their phone again.
If I didn't have 1+1 already, I'd buy it right now. One plus two is rumored to come out in Q2/Q3 of 2015 with oxygen os preinstalled (most likely). If one plus manages to resolve this new OS bugs and if the phone is phenomenal, then I'd sell 1+1 and go for one plus two.
The oneplus forum is a mess, but I feel like all the development is mostly happening on XDA/google+ community groups and most people repost these developments to the one plus forum.
The big headache is if you shatter/drop the phone screen or water damage etc. Their customer service is terrible and it will take a long long time before you get a response from them. Same thing goes for a defective unit and if you try to RMA it.
I received my 1+1 last year in November and am very happy with it. I don't have any of the above mentioned issues and have been running CM12 nightlies since the past two months with great battery life.
There's a review thread here, have a read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685348
Stay away from the OnePlus forums, you're right, it's like kindergarten, it's a circus of stupidity. My experience with this phone has been overwhelmingly positive, I have two (one for my partner). You'll see people complaining about things going wrong but most of the time it's their own fault because they did something to the phone without actually knowing what they were doing.
The phone is great. The hardware is fantastic, it's a real beast. The CM software is much freer than any other OEM software but it's not without the occasional bug. That shouldn't really matter too much though because this dev community is really active and we have some great ROMs available.
The OnePlus Two might be coming out, or it might not be. One thing is for sure though, it won't be anywhere near as cheap as the One.
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For the price it is still the best thing you can get. CM12 right away and you will be fine.
Hello!
Now I have s3 mini and I want to buy a new one. S3 mini was a great phone, especially with cm12, but I find it too slow and screen size is not enough for me. After reading through forums and reviews, watching videos and other stuff, I have found 2 great phones for me. One Plus One or Zenfone 2. And here is the problem, should I buy OPO or wait for Two? Or should I choose Asus?
Do you really want to rely on the opinions of compete strangers (who may or may not know what they're talking about, who may or may not be biased) to decide how to spend hundreds of dollars? I really don't understand these kinds of threads.
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Do you really want to rely on the opinions of compete strangers (who may or may not know what they're talking about, who may or may not be biased) to decide how to spend hundreds of dollars? I really don't understand these kinds of threads.
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The reason I created this was that I wanted to know other people opinions. Argumented opinions, of course.
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The reason I created this was that I wanted to know other people opinions. Argumented opinions, of course.
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This phone is great, buy it. Reasons? It's cheap. The OnePlus Two won't be cheap. The Zenfone doesn't have anywhere near as good a development community.
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This phone is great, buy it. Reasons? It's cheap. The OnePlus Two won't be cheap. The Zenfone doesn't have anywhere near as good a development community.
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Thanks for your opinion.
Have used the nexus 6, note 4, but my word, the oneplus is the best. It's cheaper, good dev support and for me most importantly the phone has the best signal strength of all the phones I have ever used.
I've been eyeing the zenfone two for a while now but sadly the Intel chipset it's running on isn't gaining much traction at the moment. And although people are praising Asus' zenui interface for Android, I'd still rather have options. Meanwhile, the OPO has basically everything you need. No reason to jump headfirst into zenfone land at the moment just to discover it's actually a desert. Not when the OPO community is thriving.
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The opo is a great phone, make no mistake. If you have none of the known issues, it's really great. Plenty of power all around, it's how android should happen in any device. Battery for 2 or 3 days with regular to slightly heavy use. Probably a bit too big, but that's personal taste.
But it has the potential for underlying problems that may or may not happen. Case in point, screen touch issues. People report starting to have touch issues out of nowhere and it's a toss up on whatever is really causing it. I've rma'd mine 1 month after getting it almost an year ago, opo said it was hardware, new one came with the same problem, got fixed with a software update (38r I think). At this point, running a cm12 nightly, got even better, it's 99.9% trouble free (I get a random swipe like once a week, totally neglectable). That said, there's always people around the forum complaining their phone started acting out of nowhere. Pretty sure there's many more that don't have any problems we don't hear about, so consider that too.
Don't know the zenphone2. But honestly, I'd probably go for an LG g3 at this point, it's a phone that's kind of cheap to get (especially if you give the time to find a used one in great condition), nearly the same price point as opo, liked how it works, probably much faster support than opo. Don't read that as better support, there's plenty of people complaining about that, apart from taking nearly 2 months to complete the whole process, I had no issues with them with the rma.
If I'd be looking for anything more expensive I'd be looking into a Sony z3 (compact or regular) or wait for the z4 around the corner. Not much advertised, but Sony has brilliant but a bit on the expensive side phones.
Obligartory statement, I will not give money to samsung for anything mobile ever again.
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Gotta be ready to play with your phone a bit. Almost everyone on the forums aren't running plain stock, good community will help you with your phone as everyone is trying to help and solve problems.
Can't get a phone at the price range like this.
Ever since Updating to the official MM RUU posted in these forums I, and others are stating that they have been getting the following message:
Sending SMS messages
Message failed. Would you like to retry?
Deny Allow
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I aim opening this in an attempt to try and ascertain what the issue could be. As Nobody seems to have an answer in what limited fashion I asked.
This is on the Official firmware RUU by dottat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/stock-m-firmware-nand-recovery-t3330972 ).
It was stated elsewhere that this matter was resolved by another dev, but am unable to determine how possibly that was done
This easily happens multiple times a day if I text frequently
carm01 said:
Ever since Updating to the official MM RUU posted in these forums I, and others are stating that they have been getting the following message:
Sending SMS messages
Message failed. Would you like to retry?
Deny Allow
(attached)
I aim opening this in an attempt to try and ascertain what the issue could be. As Nobody seems to have an answer in what limited fashion I asked.
This is on the Official firmware RUU by dottat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/stock-m-firmware-nand-recovery-t3330972 ).
It was stated elsewhere that this matter was resolved by another dev, but am unable to determine how possibly that was done
This easily happens multiple times a day if I text frequently
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That's odd.
That happened to me before I updated, updating with the ruu fixed it. That was my fix personally, maybe try redownloading the ruu and trying again? I used the first ruu posted by dottat when the marshmallow update dropped.
BadUsername said:
That's odd.
That happened to me before I updated, updating with the ruu fixed it. That was my fix personally, maybe try redownloading the ruu and trying again? I used the first ruu posted by dottat when the marshmallow update dropped.
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I did the RUU, and set it back up. Needless to say this permission garbage in MM is for the birds. I reverted to NEO's rom, and low and behold that message reared its ugly head again. I am beginning to think it is firmware related.
Since I am on my second and last M8 both due to charging port failures I have decided to abandon the M8 permanently, as it is at the end of its life anyways and not worth getting another, and MM has been a horrible experience honestly.. i thought windows 10 permissions were bad
Best Regards
carm01 said:
I did the RUU, and set it back up. Needless to say this permission garbage in MM is for the birds. I reverted to NEO's rom, and low and behold that message reared its ugly head again. I am beginning to think it is firmware related.
Since I am on my second and last M8 both due to charging port failures I have decided to abandon the M8 permanently, as it is at the end of its life anyways and not worth getting another, and MM has been a horrible experience honestly.. i thought windows 10 permissions were bad
Best Regards
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Ya I'm not sure what to say, I replaced the charging port on mine myself, not a hard fix at all. $12 for the port, $5 for spudger, $9 for the all-in-one screwdriver, and $5 for antistatic tweezers. Though for approximately $40 it may not be worth it to you. I'm hoping the next htc phone has an IR blaster, so I'm going to run this device into the ground.
But I have no idea what could be causing your sms issues. My guess it would have to be firmware related, possibly area specific. On stock I haven't really noticed any problems.
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Ya I'm not sure what to say, I replaced the charging port on mine myself, not a hard fix at all. $12 for the port, $5 for spudger, $9 for the all-in-one screwdriver, and $5 for antistatic tweezers. Though for approximately $40 it may not be worth it to you. I'm hoping the next htc phone has an IR blaster, so I'm going to run this device into the ground.
But I have no idea what could be causing your sms issues. My guess it would have to be firmware related, possibly area specific. On stock I haven't really noticed any problems.
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The HTC 10 has no IR blaster.
I'm a bit upset myself about this but I honestly didn't use it much.
andybones said:
The HTC 10 has no IR blaster.
I'm a bit upset myself about this but I honestly didn't use it much.
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I know it doesn't, I love my IR blaster, I hate having my normal TV remote and it's nice having sole access to my TV through my phone.
BadUsername said:
Ya I'm not sure what to say, I replaced the charging port on mine myself, not a hard fix at all. $12 for the port, $5 for spudger, $9 for the all-in-one screwdriver, and $5 for antistatic tweezers. Though for approximately $40 it may not be worth it to you. I'm hoping the next htc phone has an IR blaster, so I'm going to run this device into the ground.
But I have no idea what could be causing your sms issues. My guess it would have to be firmware related, possibly area specific. On stock I haven't really noticed any problems.
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You know I just want a phone that works. I never had issues with any of my other HTC phones and charging port failures. I know its easy, but why fool with it if HTC is not going to support their phones for more than 2 years?
I love HTC phones but their 2 year support life span, and slow updates is frustrating to me. its like dropping 300 to 400 or more every two years for a phone just to stay current with security issues/fixes.
carm01 said:
You know I just want a phone that works. I never had issues with any of my other HTC phones and charging port failures. I know its easy, but why fool with it if HTC is not going to support their phones for more than 2 years?
I love HTC phones but their 2 year support life span, and slow updates is frustrating to me. its like dropping 300 to 400 or more every two years for a phone just to stay current with security issues/fixes.
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I understand your point, but what phone do you know of that is supported over 2 years?
Hardware failures in my opinion simply happen. Wear and tear on a device takes its toll. The only phone that I know have that have better support is an iPhone. Even then, the device you purchase won't be supported after a few years at most. I've also seen some terrible hardware failures associated with them as well.
I understand not wanting to fix it, but after my charging port broke, I just figured it was worth it to me to replace it myself. I like everything about this phone.
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I understand your point, but what phone do you know of that is supported over 2 years?
Hardware failures in my opinion simply happen. Wear and tear on a device takes its toll. The only phone that I know have that have better support is an iPhone. Even then, the device you purchase won't be supported after a few years at most. I've also seen some terrible hardware failures associated with them as well.
I understand not wanting to fix it, but after my charging port broke, I just figured it was worth it to me to replace it myself. I like everything about this phone.
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All my devices I take excellent care of. Always cased, screen protectors, never; well extremely rarely dropped. If it was not for the lack of support, and red camera garbage i would still be using my m7 as it is still perfect, just no support.
As far as iphone goes. They have software support for 5 years on average, and they hold their value very well. i decided to go with an 6S and it is ungodly fast and responsive. I know some are going to curse me, but it is my choice. I got free WIFI calling and VOLTE. Anyways I got 12 more days to decide before the purchase is final. I understand certain things about it and was aware before I made my decision
I would have gone with the moto pure, however i do not want a phablet, I want something i can hold and work on in one hand. If the M7 was supported I would still be using it ( that damn red or yellow camera crap is annoying blunder that HTC seriously dropped the ball on ).
I would have chose nexus 5x but I found out the USC-C is 2.0 speed, and limited to 32 gigs
Anyways
carm01 said:
All my devices I take excellent care of. Always cased, screen protectors, never; well extremely rarely dropped. If it was not for the lack of support, and red camera garbage i would still be using my m7 as it is still perfect, just no support.
As far as iphone goes. They have software support for 5 years on average, and they hold their value very well. i decided to go with an 6S and it is ungodly fast and responsive. I know some are going to curse me, but it is my choice. I got free WIFI calling and VOLTE. Anyways I got 12 more days to decide before the purchase is final. I understand certain things about it and was aware before I made my decision
I would have gone with the moto pure, however i do not want a phablet, I want something i can hold and work on in one hand. If the M7 was supported I would still be using it ( that damn red or yellow camera crap is annoying blunder that HTC seriously dropped the ball on ).
I would have chose nexus 5x but I found out the USC-C is 2.0 speed, and limited to 32 gigs
Anyways
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Haha, nobody is going to grill you for getting a 6s.
Yes, software support is definitely a reason to get an iphone. I just don't agree with their premium pricing for their handsets and their closed sourced software. Not much innovation going on there, but not everyone needs something that's more than that. I just think you're paying an absurd amount for something that you can't customize at all, not to mention lack of storage space and inferior specs compared to newer android models. And yes I know, specs aren't everything, but truthfully you're paying a lot more for a lot less.
Reasons to get an android revolve around customization and truly being able to change any aspect of your phone. I think with the new doze feature and the improvements google is probably going to make to it, it's going to blow apple out of the water in terms of battery life and overall efficiency. Pretty exciting stuff, it's nice being able to set my phone down at work, pick it up for lunch and having it at 90% battery, despite it being over 2 years old. It's also much easier to fix problems that arise with them, if you're having a problem with your iphone regarding anything related to this there is literally no way to fix it yourself. Take it to the apple store and have them tell you something along the lines of, "sorry, we're unable to revert your phone back to the previous version that worked, but I think we should try a factory reset, have you tried that yet?" like you have no idea how to operate it in the first place . It makes me laugh and frustrates me that there's literally no way to apply any of my knowledge regarding ADB and linux to fix an iphone. If someone comes to me about a problem with their phone, I always tell them, "Well, if you had an android I could probably fix that issue, but I can't fix an iphone."
The last thing I'd buy an iphone for is hardware quality. A friend of mine had a bent iphone 6, a few months ago. Apple refused to replace it for him even though the phone had no other physical damage to it. Now he's like "wow, you're phone is awesome and you can use it as a TV remote too, maybe I'll get an HTC instead next upgrade." It was bent due their manufacturing issues and quality problems after the initial launch, which to me was very well documented. That also would be something I would consider.
To each his own, however there really isn't much out there that's Verizon compatible that I would tell you to get instead. Main reason I'm not getting a phone this year is because nothing looks worth it in my opinion. Maybe LG won't make such an ugly phone, or HTC will put the IR blaster back and integrate their fingerprint scanner into the power button or something. I just won't buy an iPhone because I don't want to be like everyone else, and I don't want to support a company that locks and discourages development on their devices. If everyone had an iPhone this world would be a pretty sad place, a monopoly on a product that discourages creativity and imagination from the general public. Where would our smartphone technology be without android? I doubt we'd have NFC, IR blasters, HD screens, Micro-sd storage options, etc. Apple would have never put anything in because everyone will buy their phones anyway.
Anyway rant done, iPhone 6s is a good device for what it is. I don't think people here will grill you for getting one, they definitely have some advantages that are nice and that I think would be nice if Android wasn't so fragmented. But that's the price you pay for open source software and many companies making competing products. I wouldn't have it any other way.
BadUsername said:
Haha, nobody is going to grill you for getting a 6s.
Yes, software support is definitely a reason to get an iphone. I just don't agree with their premium pricing for their handsets and their closed sourced software. Not much innovation going on there, but not everyone needs something that's more than that. I just think you're paying an absurd amount for something that you can't customize at all, not to mention lack of storage space and inferior specs compared to newer android models. And yes I know, specs aren't everything, but truthfully you're paying a lot more for a lot less.
Reasons to get an android revolve around customization and truly being able to change any aspect of your phone. I think with the new doze feature and the improvements google is probably going to make to it, it's going to blow apple out of the water in terms of battery life and overall efficiency. Pretty exciting stuff, it's nice being able to set my phone down at work, pick it up for lunch and having it at 90% battery, despite it being over 2 years old. It's also much easier to fix problems that arise with them, if you're having a problem with your iphone regarding anything related to this there is literally no way to fix it yourself. Take it to the apple store and have them tell you something along the lines of, "sorry, we're unable to revert your phone back to the previous version that worked, but I think we should try a factory reset, have you tried that yet?" like you have no idea how to operate it in the first place . It makes me laugh and frustrates me that there's literally no way to apply any of my knowledge regarding ADB and linux to fix an iphone. If someone comes to me about a problem with their phone, I always tell them, "Well, if you had an android I could probably fix that issue, but I can't fix an iphone."
The last thing I'd buy an iphone for is hardware quality. A friend of mine had a bent iphone 6, a few months ago. Apple refused to replace it for him even though the phone had no other physical damage to it. Now he's like "wow, you're phone is awesome and you can use it as a TV remote too, maybe I'll get an HTC instead next upgrade." It was bent due their manufacturing issues and quality problems after the initial launch, which to me was very well documented. That also would be something I would consider.
To each his own, however there really isn't much out there that's Verizon compatible that I would tell you to get instead. Main reason I'm not getting a phone this year is because nothing looks worth it in my opinion. Maybe LG won't make such an ugly phone, or HTC will put the IR blaster back and integrate their fingerprint scanner into the power button or something. I just won't buy an iPhone because I don't want to be like everyone else, and I don't want to support a company that locks and discourages development on their devices. If everyone had an iPhone this world would be a pretty sad place, a monopoly on a product that discourages creativity and imagination from the general public. Where would our smartphone technology be without android? I doubt we'd have NFC, IR blasters, HD screens, Micro-sd storage options, etc. Apple would have never put anything in because everyone will buy their phones anyway.
Anyway rant done, iPhone 6s is a good device for what it is. I don't think people here will grill you for getting one, they definitely have some advantages that are nice and that I think would be nice if Android wasn't so fragmented. But that's the price you pay for open source software and many companies making competing products. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Yes, I understand all your concerns, and I am with you on the price, and it will be one of the deciding factors as well as Itunes which I am finding most frustrating to use to add files to the device. So i got a few days to think about it.