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Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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At the moment this is the best phone
Yep.
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Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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If you're not sure.can you share your invite with me..I'll share mine with you when your ready. Thanks
Think you can get a Galaxy Note3, LG G2, Nexus 5 or other 800/801 spec phone for 350 (US) dollars?
I got the Nexus 5 and the OPO is way better(faster, better camera, quality materials, great design)
It's still worth it now and will still be worth it in the next 6-9 months and beyond.
But be realistic: it might have a band to some degree or it might not. You might have to use the supposedly poor after-sales service or you might never need to.
I have a very slight yellow band at certain angles. Being in China, it would be much easier and cheaper to send it back than those overseas but I will not. It doesn't bother me.
Overall: it's a big phone. It's a high-spec phone. It's a (comparatively) low-cost phone.
Gorilla* said:
Wanted to know your thought in whether I should get this or the nexus 5... Or wait for the nexus 6.
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OPO blows the Nexus 5 out of the water. But who knows what the Nexus 6 will bring. I suspect that, if you are a diehard Nexus/pure aosp fan, the Nexus 6 would be a better choice (if you can live with subpar battery life). But if you like CM, the OPO is the best phone available. I'd say get it, and if you don't like it, sell it and get something else. You won't have any problem selling it for what you paid, and you might actually make some profit.
Way worth it. Typing this message on it
Don't know, just got mine and the volume buttons do not work at all. Now gotta wait another few weeks I guess and hope they answer my replacement request. Really bummed. Seems like a nice phone, but I cannot even boot into recovery with the thing to check stuff out.
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Honestly, its worth it for $350. But I might sell it and get he Nexus 6 depending what is the specs and price. CyanogenMod is always buggy. By the time its stable, then there is already next version of Android. I would pay $100 more for 64 GB Nexus 6
People keep complaining about the small issues here and there, but the updates keep rolling in every week or two, so I can't complain!
People say other phones are better built or designed nicer, or will just plain be faster, being released in the next few months, and they may be right too.
The point is this, to me anyway: If you want something for a great value with good build quality, and are willing to deal with a couple kinks as they continue to be worked out, then this is your phone.
If you want 100% cutting edge latest phone with 99% bug free, then wait and pay $800 for the next phone that comes out from someone else. But don't buy this expecting perfection, and then be pissy and complain about it like 25% of the people on here do
Just my opinion
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beastlykings said:
People keep complaining about the small issues here and there, but the updates keep rolling in every week or two, so I can't complain!
People say other phones are better built or designed nicer, or will just plain be faster, being released in the next few months, and they may be right too.
The point is this, to me anyway: If you want something for a great value with good build quality, and are willing to deal with a couple kinks as they continue to be worked out, then this is your phone.
If you want 100% cutting edge latest phone with 99% bug free, then wait and pay $800 for the next phone that comes out from someone else. But don't buy this expecting perfection, and then be pissy and complain about it like 25% of the people on here do
Just my opinion
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This guys opinion is pretty damn spot on I might add. Also asking in a forum is this worth it is really not a great thing to do. You cant get a definitive answer in a place like this. Also if you are on the fence then leave it alone and pass on your invite to others. Some will love some will hate it but its an electronic device which can be sold easily. No real risk factor at all.
Do what you like and feel comfortable with. I personally have little yellow banding which is not a big deal and everything else works as it should...
Worth it. My Notes 1/2/3 and Nexus 5 are all collecting dust now. The OPO is a superb phone.
It's absolutely worth it. Especially for that price.
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Be aware that it does have several hardware issues including the yellow stain/tint/hue in the bottom of the screen. Here are some reviews. If you think you can live with those issues the go ahead:
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I wouldn't be surprised if another article comes out about OnePlus. Several articles have already been written based on customer experiences via direct mail or tip boxes. If you are confident about the OPO and the company you purchased it from, you wouldn't/shouldn't be worried
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phandroid .com/2014/07/14/oneplus-one-yellow-screen-hardware-defect/
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idigitaltimes .com/articl...a-warranty-process-outrageously-expensive.htm
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thedroideffect .com/yellow-band-is-normal-says-oneplus/
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Be aware that it does have several hardware issues including the yellow stain/tint/hue in the bottom of the screen. Here are some reviews. If you think you can live with those issues the go ahead:
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Not all devices are affected by the yellow banding. And what are the other issues you're talking about? Not a single problem with mine or my fiance's.
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Don't know, just got mine and the volume buttons do not work at all. Now gotta wait another few weeks I guess and hope they answer my replacement request. Really bummed. Seems like a nice phone, but I cannot even boot into recovery with the thing to check stuff out.
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Root the phone,install Quick boot and you can boot in recovery.
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Not all devices are affected by the yellow banding. And what are the other issues you're talking about? Not a single problem with mine or my fiance's.
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Agree, but if the one you get is affected Oneplus will not replace it. They will only give you a refund if the RMA is within 14 days and you have to pay return shipping.
There are quite a few of other issues like ghost touch detection, multi touch issues due to bad grounding, battery draining too fast, random WiFi connection drops, etc. Take a trip around their technical support forum.
Some of these do not affect all devices and some are supposedly going to be fixed by software ipdates . But still buying this phone right now is like playing lottery and it turns out you lose with a bad device then good luck with their customer support.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying do your research before buying and know what you are getting into and what to expect.
Oneplus had a real winner in their hands but the way they have been handling things look very shady.
Here are some links:
This guy just gave up because Oneplus never had the decency to reply back to him. To my knowledge all phones have this issue including mine which really doesn't bother me but it those how the company handled the problem.
forums.oneplus net/threads/touch-sensitivity-issues-a-letter-to-oneplus.73423/
WiFi issues, I myself don't have that issue but I have seen several post popping up about wifi disconnects:
forums.oneplus net/threads/wifi-issues-with-my-oneplus.95359/
I posted already links about the yellow band but here is another one explaining why it is not glue and in fact a hardware issue as state Oneplus:
forums.oneplus net/threads/i-found-what-causes-yellow-spot-on-my-phone.90949/
Battery issues:
forums.oneplus net/threads/battery-improvement-after-33r.95885/
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Agree, but if the one you get is affected Oneplus will not replace it. They will only give you a refund if the RMA is within 14 days and you have to pay return shipping.
There are quite a few of other issues like ghost touch detection, multi touch issues due to bad grounding, battery draining too fast, random WiFi connection drops, etc. Take a trip around their technical support forum.
Some of these do not affect all devices and some are supposedly going to be fixed by software ipdates . But still buying this phone right now is like playing lottery and it turns out you lose with a bad device then good luck with their customer support.
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't buy it, I'm just saying do your research before buying and know what you are getting into and what to expect.
Oneplus had a real winner in their hands but the way they have been handling things look very shady.
Here are some links:
This guy just gave up because Oneplus never had the decency to reply back to him. To my knowledge all phones have this issue including mine which really doesn't bother me but it those how the company handled the problem.
forums.oneplus net/threads/touch-sensitivity-issues-a-letter-to-oneplus.73423/
WiFi issues, I myself don't have that issue but I have seen several post popping up about wifi disconnects:
forums.oneplus net/threads/wifi-issues-with-my-oneplus.95359/
I posted already links about the yellow band but here is another one explaining why it is not glue and in fact a hardware issue as state Oneplus:
forums.oneplus net/threads/i-found-what-causes-yellow-spot-on-my-phone.90949/
Battery issues:
forums.oneplus net/threads/battery-improvement-after-33r.95885/
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Honestly, a lot of the 'issues' I've seen talked about are just people not knowing how to use their device, or something that is out of the control of OnePlus (Google Play Services battery drain problem).
Where are you getting this information about OnePlus not replacing devices? It simply isn't true. I've seen multiple people report that upon opening a ticket for a valid fault they've been given the option of a replacement or a refund.
Don't get me wrong, I've also seen people complain about pretty crap customer support from the company, but that isn't the only kind of experience that people are having. Talking in absolutes like that is just wrong, and isn't really very smart.
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Hello Everyone,
2 days ago there was a announcement that the one plus one would be available for 1 hour only to buy online. I was so hyped I went straight to the website and got my pre-Order ready and accessories sorted. However I am coming to a point where everything I read about the One plus is a Bug or a issue with it not booting ect. I would describe myself as a geeky teenager, I know my way around phones and computers but I still like to have a phone that will do its job without any/many issues. To any owners of a One plus please help me, Is the one plus one in a place where it is usable and can be used daily for all of my daily tasks (Browsing, Games, Calls, Lots of screen time) Or would you say at this current time there are to many bugs for the phone to be enjoyable?
I would really like to pre order this phone as It still has place in my heart however if there are a people thinking there are to many bugs id rather know and pick an alternative? Maybe a G3 for now.
Thanks all,
David
I have 2oneplus one and I know 4 other frds has oneplus one..not a single problem on any one of them. I also have note3 too. I like my oneplus one a lot more then my note3(its in my closet ever since I got my oneplus).
Sometimes I think people are having problems with the phone its because user error. And you gotta remember 97% of people who has the phone that are satisfy. Won't come online and post on forums telling you abt it. Usually its the people who has problems with there phone would post on forums trying to find a fix.
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Usually its the people who has problems with there phone would post on forums trying to find a fix.
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Exactly... No issues here whatsoever...
no issues (except with the yellowish bottom of the screen).
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Nah you right too many bugs if I were you I would not buy one either.... **snickering** gives me a better chance to get another one **evil laugh**
Man listen if you making up a thread for this you have already given up... Best phone I have ever had to date... No issues at all nor my half dozen friends with the phone.. Yellow tint - fix for that :good:
Hey David
If you are geeky and know your way around androids and Cyanogen Mod in particular you will have few if any problems with this phone as most of the errors that come up should be resolvable with flashes. That said unlock and root it upon receiving and get a custom recovery on the phone asap.
Those who do have hardware problems well... you can't blame them and though my own oneplus works great I don't knock the fact other people had problems. They got unlucky and oneplus self admittedly is swamped and hasn't handled the issue in a speedy way. It looks like they are dragging their feet compared to other companies when they are swamped. They should make a public announcement and put a pause on marketing. They haven't done that and I feel they justifiably received a lot of ire from unhappy customers.
In short, if you want to gamble the 1%-2% or greater chance you got a lemon you can try. There was a census on the forum that 7-8% who bought the phone need an rma. (forum census here https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/for-those-who-have-the-one-how-is-the-quality.95588/) I am being really critical and assuming more than half of the people who bought it had a software issue.
So perhaps that guesstimate is not correct but the majority IS happy with their phone.
And a warning that recently there was a spate of people who had random reboots and one plus has not made any announcements on the matter, also requiring people to send in videos of the random reboot.
So if you want to chance you will be out of shipping and handling at worst. At best you'll have a real kick ass phone myself and others really enjoy.
Hope that clarifies
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Hello Everyone,
2 days ago there was a announcement that the one plus one would be available for 1 hour only to buy online. I was so hyped I went straight to the website and got my pre-Order ready and accessories sorted. However I am coming to a point where everything I read about the One plus is a Bug or a issue with it not booting ect. I would describe myself as a geeky teenager, I know my way around phones and computers but I still like to have a phone that will do its job without any/many issues. To any owners of a One plus please help me, Is the one plus one in a place where it is usable and can be used daily for all of my daily tasks (Browsing, Games, Calls, Lots of screen time) Or would you say at this current time there are to many bugs for the phone to be enjoyable?
I would really like to pre order this phone as It still has place in my heart however if there are a people thinking there are to many bugs id rather know and pick an alternative? Maybe a G3 for now.
Thanks all,
David
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In my family alone there are 4 OnePlus One's:
1.) Me (64GB International CyanogenMod version)
2.) Brother-in-law (64GB International CyanogenMod version)
3. Brother-in-law's brother (16GB Chinese version with CM11s)
4.) My sister (16GB Chinese version with CM11s)
Non of us have any of the serious issues reported such as random rebooting, bootlooping, multi-touch or ghost touch issues. We do have the yellow band at the bottom (all of us) but its barely noticable.
tl:dr : Yes you can very well use it as a reliable daily driver AND should you have any issues thats what XDA is for.
Got my OPO a few weeks ago and have no issues at all. If I did I would of sold it day 1. I still have my N5 running the dev Lollipop, its fast and smooth, i could roll right back to it, but really like the OPO. Buy it, if you don't like it, sell it. Maybe you lose 20$, if you do, but in my book its worth it.
No issues at all on two of these things.
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I have had 4 in total, bought my first used and the guy gave me his two invites so I bought them as well. All three had a small amount of yellow at the bottom of the screen but no other problems. The forth one I got used and is has no yellow tint but it did have a small touch problem where I would sometimes have to tap the phone twice to get it to register a tap but after the 38R update it has gone away completely so I have no problems at all with the phone. Best part of it was that I got this one for £160 and it was only a few weeks old.
I thought that the yellow tint on the other phones didn't bother me too much until I got my G3 and seen the difference between them so I sold the last one of the first three I got but after getting this one I can see that the yellow tint really did bother me because even though I can see a difference between the screen on the this one and the G3 is not that great and I have been using it most of the time over my G3
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Customer support; I read threads about it being horrible. Recently it has gotten SLIGHTLY better, but nothing to throw a party about.
Thats really what is stopping me from a Tuesday, pulling out my CC, and buying the phone (well besides deciding protection for it but that is neither here nor there).
Also, the "community forums" are HORRIBLE. Owners have terrible attitudes and the level of fanboys on there is just AMAZING. They might be worst than Apple fans. It is a awesome phone but like every single phone ever released, it has flaws (which one and many people can live with)
So anyways, back to customer support; How do you guys think they are doing recently?
OP has pretty much no customer service which makes sense for a startup company that sells devices barely above it's manufacturing cost. If you browse one plus forums frequently, you'll notice there are a few stories of opo owners who got their devices fixed after a long wait. There are also a few devices that have been defective but this is rare.
In regards to OS- They have issued several updates for CM11S which have fixed a few bugs and introduced some new ones. CM12S is supposed to come out sometime this month but there have been no updates from OP or CM. Either due to their legal issues between the two companies or because of OxygenOS coming out soon, they are tight lipped about all this which has left members asking for ETA.
I am currently running CM12 nightlies and am overall, very pleased with the OPO. I don't have any of the ghost touch, battery drain, or cell signal issues.
It's pretty safe to say that the OnePlus customer support is almost non-existent. I've seen a few people claiming they had a wonderful experience when dealing with them, but the overwhelming majority of people have had the opposite experience. But, I think everyone that bought this phone should have known that they were taking a risk, I certainly did. Their forums are awful, full of people who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about and it's completely out of control. My favourite way to describe it is that it's a circus of stupidity. But you won't find that here on XDA, this is a tight ship, so if you do buy one this is the place to be (it's the place to be if you have any Android device actually).
cssacropolis said:
OP has pretty much no customer service which makes sense for a startup company that sells devices barely above it's manufacturing cost. If you browse one plus forums frequently, you'll notice there are a few stories of opo owners who got their devices fixed after a long wait. There are also a few devices that have been defective but this is rare.
In regards to OS- They have issued several updates for CM11S which have fixed a few bugs and introduced some new ones. CM12S is supposed to come out sometime this month but there have been no updates from OP or CM. Either due to their legal issues between the two companies or because of OxygenOS coming out soon, they are tight lipped about all this which has left members asking for ETA.
I am currently running CM12 nightlies and am overall, very pleased with the OPO. I don't have any of the ghost touch, battery drain, or cell signal issues.
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Hello!
Now I have s3 mini and I want to buy a new one. S3 mini was a great phone, especially with cm12, but I find it too slow and screen size is not enough for me. After reading through forums and reviews, watching videos and other stuff, I have found 2 great phones for me. One Plus One or Zenfone 2. And here is the problem, should I buy OPO or wait for Two? Or should I choose Asus?
Do you really want to rely on the opinions of compete strangers (who may or may not know what they're talking about, who may or may not be biased) to decide how to spend hundreds of dollars? I really don't understand these kinds of threads.
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Do you really want to rely on the opinions of compete strangers (who may or may not know what they're talking about, who may or may not be biased) to decide how to spend hundreds of dollars? I really don't understand these kinds of threads.
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The reason I created this was that I wanted to know other people opinions. Argumented opinions, of course.
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The reason I created this was that I wanted to know other people opinions. Argumented opinions, of course.
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This phone is great, buy it. Reasons? It's cheap. The OnePlus Two won't be cheap. The Zenfone doesn't have anywhere near as good a development community.
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This phone is great, buy it. Reasons? It's cheap. The OnePlus Two won't be cheap. The Zenfone doesn't have anywhere near as good a development community.
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Thanks for your opinion.
Have used the nexus 6, note 4, but my word, the oneplus is the best. It's cheaper, good dev support and for me most importantly the phone has the best signal strength of all the phones I have ever used.
I've been eyeing the zenfone two for a while now but sadly the Intel chipset it's running on isn't gaining much traction at the moment. And although people are praising Asus' zenui interface for Android, I'd still rather have options. Meanwhile, the OPO has basically everything you need. No reason to jump headfirst into zenfone land at the moment just to discover it's actually a desert. Not when the OPO community is thriving.
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The opo is a great phone, make no mistake. If you have none of the known issues, it's really great. Plenty of power all around, it's how android should happen in any device. Battery for 2 or 3 days with regular to slightly heavy use. Probably a bit too big, but that's personal taste.
But it has the potential for underlying problems that may or may not happen. Case in point, screen touch issues. People report starting to have touch issues out of nowhere and it's a toss up on whatever is really causing it. I've rma'd mine 1 month after getting it almost an year ago, opo said it was hardware, new one came with the same problem, got fixed with a software update (38r I think). At this point, running a cm12 nightly, got even better, it's 99.9% trouble free (I get a random swipe like once a week, totally neglectable). That said, there's always people around the forum complaining their phone started acting out of nowhere. Pretty sure there's many more that don't have any problems we don't hear about, so consider that too.
Don't know the zenphone2. But honestly, I'd probably go for an LG g3 at this point, it's a phone that's kind of cheap to get (especially if you give the time to find a used one in great condition), nearly the same price point as opo, liked how it works, probably much faster support than opo. Don't read that as better support, there's plenty of people complaining about that, apart from taking nearly 2 months to complete the whole process, I had no issues with them with the rma.
If I'd be looking for anything more expensive I'd be looking into a Sony z3 (compact or regular) or wait for the z4 around the corner. Not much advertised, but Sony has brilliant but a bit on the expensive side phones.
Obligartory statement, I will not give money to samsung for anything mobile ever again.
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Gotta be ready to play with your phone a bit. Almost everyone on the forums aren't running plain stock, good community will help you with your phone as everyone is trying to help and solve problems.
Can't get a phone at the price range like this.
Moto germany , confirmed the delay in update scheme due to some last minute issues.
http://m.gsmarena.com/motorola_delays_nougat_update_in_germany-news-23150.php
Very disappointed as the phone is almost two years old but no major update was done. Google may release Android 8.0 by May.
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Very disappointed as the phone is almost two years old but no major update was done. Google may release Android 8.0 by May.
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5.1.1 to 6.0 wasn't a major update? I am not thrilled with the delay, but let's not forget how quickly the MXPE received Marshmallow. The Z line is their primary focus now, that's how it goes!
cool, only 3 months more to get already outdated 7.0 thanks lenovo
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cool, only 3 months more to get already outdated 7.0 thanks lenovo
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Yeah I know I love this phone but moving on to the OPO 3T because of this reason
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due to some last minute issues. marketing.
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Fixed that for you.
So typical for moto. They're going to wait for us to do all the hardwork for them, and then roll out an update right around the time that its no longer needed by us.
As long as lineage keeps updating the phone I will use it until the phone dies but this will definitely be my last Moto phone.
Everyone is all pissed but Google just ended support at 2 years sharp on the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9. The manufacturers are still in a 2 year support paradigm related to contracts.
This is largely why I went to AICP with 7.1.1 and on-time monthly Android security updates. Plus, a lot more functionality and customization. The same was true with LiquidSmooth when Samsung stopped supporting the Galaxy S3 before. Every device ceases to be supported at some point. That's why we hang out here and work together to extend the life of our favorite hardware. I, too, and disappointed that Lenovo dropped meaningful support for the Pure 2015 last year, but AICP has gotten me over the sting.
I am betting Google's announcement about killing the Google now launcher factors into this. OEMs now have to build their own launcher
We could get 7.1.2 directly also... We never know what's gonna happen anyways but now I'm pissed off by this and I'm surely going to buy nokia phone next time... This is such a disgrace...
I would like to use linageos but rom without fully working moto display is not for me, I bought this phone for this function and stereo speakers. Im ok with android 6, I dont feel loosing some functionality.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
gemtin92 said:
I would like to use linageos but rom without fully working moto display is not for me, I bought this phone for this function and stereo speakers. Im ok with android 6, I dont feel loosing some functionality.
Tapatapatap Moto X Style
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what is not working in lineage? what do you mean "not fully working moto display"?
I am at same situation, would like to use Lineage instead of orig. rom. thx
IMO the guy who has regularly said he doesn't think we'll ever get Nougat will be vindicated. The MXPE has been a commercial failure and retailers regularly have it on fire sale for $250 or less - they can't get rid of them. There's almost no chance Lenovo will go out of their way to continue spending man hours on the update this spring if they're "having problems" (more likely, they never started working on an update to begin with).
Purchasing this phone is certainly one of my bigger electronics regrets. If I could go back in time, I'd pony up the extra $100 for a 6P, no question. Now the price differential between a used MXPE and 6P is even bigger than that, which says a lot.
Commercial failure perhaps but that is Lenovo's fault. They incorrectly thought that the Moto name meant they had no need to advertise.
Won't wait. Will buy Mate 9
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IMO the guy who has regularly said he doesn't think we'll ever get Nougat will be vindicated. The MXPE has been a commercial failure and retailers regularly have it on fire sale for $250 or less - they can't get rid of them. There's almost no chance Lenovo will go out of their way to continue spending man hours on the update this spring if they're "having problems" (more likely, they never started working on an update to begin with).
Purchasing this phone is certainly one of my bigger electronics regrets. If I could go back in time, I'd pony up the extra $100 for a 6P, no question. Now the price differential between a used MXPE and 6P is even bigger than that, which says a lot.
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It's always so interesting to see different peoples opinions.
I'm bought the 6P when it came out. It was a great phone, notice I said was. If you hit the XDA forums you will see loads of; bootloop of death, battery issues. It seems the battery is wearing prematurely and causing non repairable failures. This is the majority opinion of the reason for the failure, but again is only opinion. I kept my phone pristine and a few weeks ago got the dreaded BLOD. Huawei did send me a refurbished phone back; it was slightly dinged, but I sent them a 32gb and they sent me a 128gb back. They didn't offer a loaner, so I picked up a MXPE and have to say I like it so much when I got my 6P back and I've not bothered to do much with it.
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It's always so interesting to see different peoples opinions.
I'm bought the 6P when it came out. It was a great phone, notice I said was. If you hit the XDA forums you will see loads of; bootloop of death, battery issues. It seems the battery is wearing prematurely and causing non repairable failures. This is the majority opinion of the reason for the failure, but again is only opinion. I kept my phone pristine and a few weeks ago got the dreaded BLOD. Huawei did send me a refurbished phone back; it was slightly dinged, but I sent them a 32gb and they sent me a 128gb back. They didn't offer a loaner, so I picked up a MXPE and have to say I like it so much when I got my 6P back and I've not bothered to do much with it.
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Well, this may be a case of "the grass is always greener" for me. I wasn't aware of widespread 6P issues, but a bit of research indicates they've sprung up over the past few months.
On paper, the 6P is a slightly faster version of the MXPE (plus fingerprint sensor) that still gets regular updates, whereas the MXPE was more or less abandoned in the software department within 6 months of release. The microSD slot was a big factor that swayed me at the time of purchase, but if I'd known how quickly support would be abandoned vs. 2+ years of continuous updates (even monthly security patches) on the 6P, it wouldn't have been enough.
Of course, if you end up with a bricked paperweight 6P, superior software support isn't going to do you much good. Sorry to hear about your experience.
I will add this: the icing on the cake with Lenovo's non-support is that they void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader and trying to stay up-to-date using custom ROMs. Given that I'm already on my second (RMA) MXPE, I don't trust the hardware enough to lose the warranty, so I'm stuck on Marshmallow forever most likely.
ominousnimbus said:
Well, this may be a case of "the grass is always greener" for me. I wasn't aware of widespread 6P issues, but a bit of research indicates they've sprung up over the past few months.
On paper, the 6P is a slightly faster version of the MXPE (plus fingerprint sensor) that still gets regular updates, whereas the MXPE was more or less abandoned in the software department within 6 months of release. The microSD slot was a big factor that swayed me at the time of purchase, but if I'd known how quickly support would be abandoned vs. 2+ years of continuous updates (even monthly security patches) on the 6P, it wouldn't have been enough.
Of course, if you end up with a bricked paperweight 6P, superior software support isn't going to do you much good. Sorry to hear about your experience.
I will add this: the icing on the cake with Lenovo's non-support is that they void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader and trying to stay up-to-date using custom ROMs. Given that I'm already on my second (RMA) MXPE, I don't trust the hardware enough to lose the warranty, so I'm stuck on Marshmallow forever most likely.
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Thanks for the well stated response.
I've not been a fan of Lenovo since the Superfish malware and the rest of the crap they install became public knowledge. But I kind of hoped they would of left Motorola somewhat autonomous but I see they did not. The lack of promised updates is inexcusable, it's a lie plain and simple. The whole bootloader thing, while I personally think is wrong, its my damn phone let me do what I want, at least they tell you up front and don't make you guess.
While not nearly as egregious the fact Google discontinued the whole Nexus line and has Pixel exclusive is somewhat annoying. I can almost understand it from a business standpoint, but you could of at least threw the Nexus crowd a crumb and kept say the unlimited photo thing as a Pixel exclusive and give us the Pixel experience. Honestly, the last rom I was running was 100% N and Pixel modded and I'm OK with MM and the Moto voice is pretty good. I did read rumor of N in May for the MXPE, so I hope thats true.
Some guy is on his 5th rma for his 6P! I'm not sure if he is throwing them out the window, but that's pretty sad.
I suppose bottom line is you can't go wrong with either, they both have pros and cons.
I bought this phone 15 months ago for 4 main reasons :
Larger secreen than my previous phone
stereo front-facing speakers
design
low price
During that time it hasn't given me any problems and has done everything I wanted from it.
So, OK, it hasn't got the very latest Android "upgrade", but if I was really that bothered I'd unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM. (I'm out of warranty anyway). But why? The phone works perfectly fine.
To put this into context, I bought a £35,000 car last September. The 2017 models will now get Apple Carplay & Android Auto - but this will not be retro rolled out to my car.
And you guys are pissed off at no updates for a $300 smartphone?