Hiya.
I'm trying to replace my Galaxy S4 LTE with another phone with stock Android but with better overall performance. My next choice is the Nexus 5. Had one late last year but because of an "immature" OS i sold it. Now, with Android 4.4.4 i'd like to try it again. But, heard of issues after the release of 4.4.4 like:
1. Battery life now worse (and unpredictable) than before
2. Wifi & network disconnections issue
3. Slow auto-focus when taking shot
4. Weak/tinny speakers sound (which might be down to hardware problems which i don't know)
5. Screen multitouch issues
Is this all true or only for a minority? And do we even know if Google is actually listening or is aware of some if not all of these reported problems?
Please advice. Thanks.
I have updated and have none of the issues you mentioned I love my nexus 5. Stock or custom ROM.
And if people report these issues to google they listen unlike some other OEMS
Gino76ph said:
Hiya.
I'm trying to replace my Galaxy S4 LTE with another phone with stock Android but with better overall performance. My next choice is the Nexus 5. Had one late last year but because of an "immature" OS i sold it. Now, with Android 4.4.4 i'd like to try it again. But, heard of issues after the release of 4.4.4 like:
1. Battery life now worse (and unpredictable) than before
2. Wifi & network disconnections issue
3. Slow auto-focus when taking shot
4. Weak/tinny speakers sound (which might be down to hardware problems which i don't know)
5. Screen multitouch issues
Is this all true or only for a minority? And do we even know if Google is actually listening or is aware of some if not all of these reported problems?
Please advice. Thanks.
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1. i see 5 hours screen on time every single day. battery life is about how you personally use a device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much your phone/data signal quality. its like that for any device, even an iphone. the way some people use it, and their signal quality, they will never see over 3 hours sot. the way others use it, they see closer to 6 hours sot. there is no such thing about having standards for how long your battery should last, as we all use our devices differently, and live in different areas with differing qualities of signals.
2. no issues here.
3. i love the nexus 5 camera!
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4. ok, the speakers arent the loudest. there are some mods/apps that will help, but the speaker can be a little better.
5. thats the first time ive ever heard of such a thing, the nexus 5 does not have any touchscreen issues.
no matter what you buy, whatever device, there will always be a minority that complains. sometimes they complain about real issues, but many times the issues only in their heads.
Simms22...I don't know how you managed to take those photos but they look amazing. Any special settings you used? Where you using a stock Android 4.4.4 on the N5?
As i'm not into modding or rooting is there any app you can recommend in helping boost one'e Nexus 5 speakers? (I have heard some issues are caused by glue sticking out or spreading thru the speakers grill from inside which are fixed by sticking a needle into them. Is that even safe to do? Lol.)
Comparing the Nexus 5 with my current Galaxy S4 (with 4.4.2) albeit the 8MP camera and low-battery capacity the Nexus 5 do come out on top. The S4 has a higher (and longer) battery life but what i hate about the Samsung phone is the bloateware (i.e. Samsung's own apps) of which most of them apart from Galaxy apps i have disabled or turned of notifications).
I know discussing battery life is useless because its very subjective and depends on one's usage & circumstances. I usually use GSMArena and Versus in comparing two devices: specs, battery life, etc. What i would say is i work 8 hours a day. Most of the time i live and work in a "moderate to very good" 4G area which doesn't require wifi (which i think does drain battery albeit slowly). The only notifications i have is my Gmail, Twitter, Instagram, SMS messaging and Whatsapp. That's it. I make sure Sync, Location services (if its turned on it is set to Battery saving due to the nature of my work or the app i use), NFC, Wifi, Bluetooth and anything else is turned off. Anything i missed there?
Would a 2300mAh battery of the Nexus 5 be better than a 2600mAh of an S4? Surely the higher the number the better with everything turned off? Or would having a vanilla OS compensate for the low battery capacity and end up being better?
Does a battery-saving /RAM-optimising app help in improving the battery life (and performance) of the Nexus 5?
Please help.
While the speakers aren't good but software won't make them good battery life is bad on stock if you go to a custom ROM you get great battery life and most of Google's bugs are gone so yeah if you get one you might want to put a custom ROM on it
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Wow you have to tell me how you got your photos to look like that that's as good as my digital camera
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Simms22...I don't know how you managed to take those photos but they look amazing. Any special settings you used? Where you using a stock Android 4.4.4 on the N5?
As i'm not into modding or rooting is there any app you can recommend in helping boost one'e Nexus 5 speakers? (I have heard some issues are caused by glue sticking out or spreading thru the speakers grill from inside which are fixed by sticking a needle into them. Is that even safe to do? Lol.)
Comparing the Nexus 5 with my current Galaxy S4 (with 4.4.2) albeit the 8MP camera and low-battery capacity the Nexus 5 do come out on top. The S4 has a higher (and longer) battery life but what i hate about the Samsung phone is the bloateware (i.e. Samsung's own apps) of which most of them apart from Galaxy apps i have disabled or turned of notifications).
I know discussing battery life is useless because its very subjective and depends on one's usage & circumstances. I usually use GSMArena and Versus in comparing two devices: specs, battery life, etc. What i would say is i work 8 hours a day. Most of the time i live and work in a "moderate to very good" 4G area which doesn't require wifi (which i think does drain battery albeit slowly). The only notifications i have is my Gmail, Twitter, Instagram, SMS messaging and Whatsapp. That's it. I make sure Sync, Location services (if its turned on it is set to Battery saving due to the nature of my work or the app i use), NFC, Wifi, Bluetooth and anything else is turned off. Anything i missed there?
Would a 2300mAh battery of the Nexus 5 be better than a 2600mAh of an S4? Surely the higher the number the better with everything turned off? Or would having a vanilla OS compensate for the low battery capacity and end up being better?
Does a battery-saving /RAM-optimising app help in improving the battery life (and performance) of the Nexus 5?
Please help.
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While the speakers aren't good but software won't make them good battery life is bad on stock if you go to a custom ROM you get great battery life and most of Google's bugs are gone so yeah if you get one you might want to put a custom ROM on it
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Wow you have to tell me how you got your photos to look like that that's as good as my digital camera
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ive been taking and posting nexus images since the n1 first came out, day two. and daily, i post nexus photos on g+(thousands and thousands now, from all the different nexus)
theres a fine line when it comes to macros. if you cross that line, your photos start going out of focus. behind the line its easy to focus on, and right on that line youll take the best macros. find that line between in focus and too close(out of focus). also, i do not ever zoom. i take the shot in full, and crop it as i like it. if you zoom, you get no choice in how you want the overall image to appear. youll need proper lighting for macros, sunlight or flash, as typical room lighting isnt enough. oh, and when editing, do not over edit. if you edit it too much, it looks fake. if you want to edit, edit in small percentages. the n4 actually takes slightly closer macros, but the n5 macros look and feel more natural.
really, its just the difference between someone that has been using a manual camera, and setting all up manually, and someone that just points and clicks. im 43 now, been shooting photos since junior high school, always adjusting manually, and i used to develop my own film. but this is why i say the n5 has a great camera if you know how to use a camera, but as a point and click camera its not that great. but it will get better, google has added much new code to it and its app for when L comes officially, and after.
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Gino76ph said:
Simms22...I don't know how you managed to take those photos but they look amazing. Any special settings you used? Where you using a stock Android 4.4.4 on the N5?
As i'm not into modding or rooting is there any app you can recommend in helping boost one'e Nexus 5 speakers? (I have heard some issues are caused by glue sticking out or spreading thru the speakers grill from inside which are fixed by sticking a needle into them. Is that even safe to do? Lol.)
Comparing the Nexus 5 with my current Galaxy S4 (with 4.4.2) albeit the 8MP camera and low-battery capacity the Nexus 5 do come out on top. The S4 has a higher (and longer) battery life but what i hate about the Samsung phone is the bloateware (i.e. Samsung's own apps) of which most of them apart from Galaxy apps i have disabled or turned of notifications).
I know discussing battery life is useless because its very subjective and depends on one's usage & circumstances. I usually use GSMArena and Versus in comparing two devices: specs, battery life, etc. What i would say is i work 8 hours a day. Most of the time i live and work in a "moderate to very good" 4G area which doesn't require wifi (which i think does drain battery albeit slowly). The only notifications i have is my Gmail, Twitter, Instagram, SMS messaging and Whatsapp. That's it. I make sure Sync, Location services (if its turned on it is set to Battery saving due to the nature of my work or the app i use), NFC, Wifi, Bluetooth and anything else is turned off. Anything i missed there?
Would a 2300mAh battery of the Nexus 5 be better than a 2600mAh of an S4? Surely the higher the number the better with everything turned off? Or would having a vanilla OS compensate for the low battery capacity and end up being better?
Does a battery-saving /RAM-optimising app help in improving the battery life (and performance) of the Nexus 5?
Please help.
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viper4android is great for sound, but needs root.and the nexus 5 real volume booster app for all other sound but music, but need a custom recovery to flash.
the n5 has code in it that makes it more efficient on battery, so the 2300 battery sizecis fine. oh, and battery saving apps use battery, stay away from them.
Gino76ph said:
Would a 2300mAh battery of the Nexus 5 be better than a 2600mAh of an S4? Surely the higher the number the better with everything turned off? Or would having a vanilla OS compensate for the low battery capacity and end up being better?
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Nexus 5 battery is smaller but the SoC and LCD are more efficient. S801 and S805 phones are even better now.
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Nexus 5 battery is smaller but the SoC and LCD are more efficient. S801 and S805 phones are even better now.
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For anyone who have experienced it Is it true that the Nexus 5 speakers are actually better (slightly louder) than the Galaxy S4?
Talking about the multitasking tab (on the three capacitive buttons) with the Sony and Samsung Android handsets they have the option to "cancel all" tabs/windows that are running in the background. With the Nexus 5 you have to swipe them one by one. Is there an app to add that same functionality as Sony or Samsung to cancel all tabs & windows?
Any good 3rd-party music player that support Flac, customisable EQ settings, etc.? I'm looking for a music player that enables me to Pause, Forward & Back functions when i'm on my lock screen.
Please advice.
Gino76ph said:
Any good 3rd-party music player that support Flac, customisable EQ settings, etc.? I'm looking for a music player that enables me to Pause, Forward & Back functions when i'm on my lock screen.
Please advice.
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Just about every single music player?
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Just about every single music player?
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The Nexus 5's own music player (via Google Play Music app) i find uninspiring and has poor presets sounds and equalisers. Any good music player you guys can recommend?
Going back to the speakers is it safe to use a sharp object like a needle to "poke" thru the speaker grills to remove any excess glue that are present in the production as i heard that might be the cause of the slightly tinny/muffled speakers sound?
Gino76ph said:
Going back to the speakers is it safe to use a sharp object like a needle to "poke" thru the speaker grills to remove any excess glue that are present
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No. Do it at your own risk
Gino76ph said:
i heard that might be the cause of the slightly tinny/muffled speakers sound?
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Complete fabrication. Speakers sound tinny and muffled because they're crap, cheap speakers. No other reason,
Alright guys, I suppose we can close this thread now
@OP asking whether or not to buy a device is always problematic. All you'll get are opinions, but in such cases the only opinion that matters is your own
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Well, Saving your phone's battery without compromising your phone's performance will be a little difficult for everyone. Everyone nowadays prefer phones which can last them for atleast a day. But what if we could extend our phone's battery life to 1.5 days or 2 days without compromising the power of your phone?
Yup. That's possible. I've been experimenting with my Note III SM-N900 [Indian Exynos Model]. I did it for almost like 6 months. My aim was to maximize my phone's battery life. And finally I found it. I wanna share all my results and the secret tips to save that last precious drop of your battery juice!
[NOTE: [Please keep in mind that I own a Exynos Model, i.e, SM-N900 and made all the customization on this model only. Many methods explained herein might not work for you.]]
:victory:
So, first a few words on my phone's history:
When I first got my brave and good looking Note 3, I was on 7th heaven. I got Android 4.3 Jellybean onboard. I used to get 2 days of unparalleled battery life. Smooth UI. But, very few customization. Previously I used to own a Galaxy SII i9100G. It had a great potential and till date is considered as the most selling Galaxy Variant. But, still I was happy. Then came the wave of KitKat 4.4.2. Guys, you won't believe, I spent weeks in the dilemma of the fact - Should I root or not root. Should I first update and then root? Should I root and then update? I was going crazy.
But then I decided. No, I should first update via OTA and then root my phone. And then, I did it. But soon I realised that I did a wrong thing. I experienced very, very poor battery life. With 3G on and screen time of 3-4 hrs, my phone used to die. But then I thoguht, there's still hope. Thus, I spend a lot of days into finding the best customisation for improving the battery life. And after 6 months, now I finally got the best battery life.
Guys, another thing I would like to say here is that, there was a very good article on saving battery life before, made by stanley08. [READ IT HERE].
STEPS TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BATTERY LIFE
1. Kernel Customisations:
Well, as you all know, kernel is the thing that sits between your software and hardware. Doing optimal changes to it is the best way out there to save battery. First of all currently there are two best kernels out there. halaszk and pekaka. Both are absolutely amazing kernels and I found halaszk to offer a greater number of modifications. But for everyday use I use pekaka now. On the top, it doesn't matter that much. So, let's get started.
First of all, halaszk kernel comes with a very powerful tool called synapse. It allows you to individually set the frequencies, voltages, GPU speed etc.
If you wanna use pekaka, then use an app such as Trickster MOD app from PlayStore.
The main part comes now:
1. Reduce all A15 cores to -25 mv each.
2. Reduce all A7 cores to -13.5 mv each.
3. Use 0 as the parameter for Multicore Power Saving
4. Use Interactive or Ondemand governor.
5. Use CPU frequencies upto 1.3 or 1.4 GhZ.
6. Use GPU frequencies upto 340 or equivalent
That's the kernel part.
2. ROM:
Using custom rom might not be that important because almost all roms available now are either stock or MIUI. So, it won't make a difference. Still some roms might be slightly better.
One rom that I found was Alba's Ultralite roms. These roms have been developed by a russian developer. The thing that's really good in these roms is that, the Ultralite series weigh around 600-700 MB and are totally debloated. So, lesser the bloatware, lesser is the memory consumed and hence, lesser is the battery consumed.
Another rom to observe is Dr. Ketan's Rom series. Many users are satisfied with the balance of battery life and lots of customisations.
Some other good roms are Alliance ROM, and Murat ROMS. There might be many more roms with good battery life. Users may leave their comment below and I'll add them.
3. Memory:
Yup, more memory means more battery. Many would disagree with me but, I tried it out and saw amazing results. I would suggest you to use Clean Master to clear cache, memory and check out your phone's temperature.
4. USPM MOD:
Xperiacle, an amazing developer[And my fav!] has developed a module called UPSM mod. Ultra Power Saving Mode, was found in Galaxy S5. He did an amazing job and has developed this module, which allows you to activate UPSM or Emergency Mode. Doing this, will limit you to basic apps such as Phone, Whatssap, etc and will prove immensely helpful for saving battery. This is highly recommended for an y battery savvy. There's also another Xposed module which reduces NLP Kernel wakelocks, thus making your phone sleep better. Download it here.
5. Reception/Signal:
Believe it or not, this is the part that takes away a huge toll on your battery. If you have bad reception, you ought to have a bad battery life. I saw the results myself. On full signal, my phone's battery dropped to around 98% after 6 hrs standby whereas on 1 bar signal, I found my battery to be 82% after 6 hrs standby. this is because, your phone tries to continuously searches for better battery.
6. 3G/ WIFI:
Personally I found 3G to consume much more battery than WiFi. So, it is advisable to keep it turned off while not in use. If you get a simultaneous screen on time and total 3G usage time of 5-6 hrs, you're great! That's the best you can get.
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool! I mean, always check if any background apps are running continuously.
8. Greenify:
Hey, I am not talking about afforestation or something! I am talking about a wonderful app called Greenify. Now, what it does is, it freezes the background processes and apps [which you select], and thus frees up a lot of memory.
9. Debloat:
Yup, lot's of apps on your phone may slow it down and deteriorate your phone's battery. Try removing apps that you don't use anymore.
Also, another thing I would like to suggest you all, is to keep reflashing your rom every 2 to 3 months. This would ensure less momory clutter and defragmentation. Also, it would keep your phone running smooth. Also, as you might already know, AMOLED displays consume much battery for bright colors and brightness level of the screen. So, it's advisable to use dark wallpapers.
So, guys these were some of the customisations I used to achieve the perfect balance of battery life and performance. If you have any more idea or trick to save battery, do post it below. We'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks! And do share this thread with others.
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UPDATE:13/10/2014
Here are some amazing benchmarks of my friend/contributer @Spitwista
He has also come up with a great way to save battery.
Things to look at
1. 30 Minutes gaming(Real drifting)
2. 30 minutes music (power amp)
3. 7Hrs SOT
4. More than 24Hrs full run time
5. True deep sleep
6. Smooth and 100% stable all around
7. Using Halaszk kernel v20.b2
For now, check out these screenshots:
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Guys, I am currently testing on XXUENI1 the latest firmware. Will soon give the battery statistics.
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Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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thetitanium said:
Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
r-l said:
Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
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Will give it soon.
EDIT:
Here are the screen shots. Love this firmware.
Note that I started monitoring from 85% and used mobile data all the time when WiFi wasn't on.
Will soon post a fresh screenshot.
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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tarantulapg said:
Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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I believe MultiX is not for SM-N900..... Very less roms for exynos......
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thetitanium said:
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool!
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Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
You are too much forcing yourself to lengthen the battery life while limiting yourself from users' accessibility and ease.
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No bro..... not at all.... even I clearly mentioned it in the OP. Read and then speak bro.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
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Maannn..... please read the 7th point carefully. Nowhere did I mention that temperature degrades battery life. Please read things carefully and then say me what's wrong with my post.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Now here's my clarification:
1. As I already said, I started monitoring from 85% after charging (see the pics)
2. I did put it on airplane mode for 10mins in the end. (Any person with just 2% battery will do)
3. Ya.... 3rd conclusion is true. I did everything ideal battery test guidelines as per GSMARENA. I even played a few games which didn't show up on the battery screen. Also, Whatsapp was on the whole time and my life is unimaginable without it.
4. My screen brightness was at 50% and 3g on for 4-5 hrs. I only use 3G.
Hope that classifies all your doubt. Will very soon post new battery results since the previous one was a bit controversial.
Many members of XDA are currently testing my settings and will soon give me the results. Thank you.
Sent from my amazing Exynos Note 3.
nice guide. thnaks
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nice guide. thnaks
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Thanks bro...... Any suggestions or any more tips?
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Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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Graffiti Exploit said:
Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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See, undervolting my just a few mvs doesn't slow your phone down. That only happens when you under clock way more. By the way your phone seems quite good.
Sent from my amazing Exynos Note 3.
Guys...... New Scripts, tips and settings are soon coming..... Keep checking.....
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Hi! I'm interested in G Flex 2 because of Snapdragon 810 chipset and great screen. How is your experience so far? I would be greatful if you answer me few questions:
1) I really hate lag - even a slight lag can destroy my experience. I had to sell my LG G2 because of the lag. G Flex 2 was pretty laggy phone with 5.0. Did LG improve performance with 5.1.1 update?
2) How is the screen? Any issues?
3) Is overheating real? (I dont care about hot back cover, but I dont want to have my experience ruined because of extremely laggy throttling phone
4) How good is battery life? I don't need 2 days, just 3-4 hours of on screen time. Is that possible without issues?
5) Any other known issues with the phone?
EDIT: Btw guys, I wrote to LG and got official answer: LG G Flex 2 will recieve 6.0 right after G4.
Thank you very much!
45 minutes of screen, 12% battery drain....
4-5 hs of screen with no gamed is really possible. With no problem at all.
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The really problem is sync apps, like any other phone...
Heat is no problem for me at all, no intensive gamer, but can play rr3 or fifa 16 with no lag at all with 5.1.1
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45 minutes of screen, 12% battery drain....
4-5 hs of screen with no gamed is really possible. With no problem at all.View attachment 3501017View attachment 3501018
The really problem is sync apps, like any other phone...
Heat is no problem for me at all, no intensive gamer, but can play rr3 or fifa 16 with no lag at all with 5.1.1
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Thank you! And speed of user interface - launching apps, animations.. everything smooth and fluid so far?
Yes sr, for me no problem at all
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pelelademadera said:
Yes sr, for me no problem at all
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Thank you! I will give it a go.
And what about build quality?
I have to say that the experience was not that great at first. The bloatware slowed down the device a lot for me. But since I rooted and deleted that stuff, everything runs great. No lags, no overheating(I'm not playing games), great batterylife.
The only problem is that the screen is grainy when displaying some colors(eg. Grey and Orange)
So I would say, if you're giving it a go you should most likely root it.
5-6hrs is possible (sot). Battery is worse than my G2 (nowhere near Moto E either), but better than my Zenfone 2 at least. I did have to tweak the device like crazy to get it to behave like this.
Gizmo648 said:
I have to say that the experience was not that great at first. The bloatware slowed down the device a lot for me. But since I rooted and deleted that stuff, everything runs great. No lags, no overheating(I'm not playing games), great batterylife.
The only problem is that the screen is grainy when displaying some colors(eg. Grey and Orange)
So I would say, if you're giving it a go you should most likely root it.
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Performance with 5.1.1 is now fine, right?
Grainy screen, hmm.. Now I'm little bit worried.
Michalko5896 said:
Performance with 5.1.1 is now fine, right?
Grainy screen, hmm.. Now I'm little bit worried.
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Yeah, it's fine
On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
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On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63148509
LG MLT is the main one you'll want to disable. It can be disabled from the hidden menu or with titanium backup. There's also carrierIQ, but that can be turned off from 3c toolbox or "myAndroidtools". There's a list of other things, all in all very time consuming.
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On 5.1.1 rooted. I still have lag. Battery is horrible, and it gets hot.
What apps are y'all debloating? Don't know how y'all can get 5 hours screen time. My phone is 3 weeks old
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wtf? I'm really confused now.. Is it really that bad?
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wtf? I'm really confused now.. Is it really that bad?
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EVerybody's mileage will differ, but for me its bad. I really want to get a new phone (different one),but not trying to spend the money.
I get about 2hours of screen on time, and I can post pictures of my high temperatures, gets hot quick. I can pretty much never turn the screen on full brightness because there's some limiter that will say "max is 70% because of the temperature". This is the ONLY phone in my life of smartphones that i cant turn the screen fully brights, its horrid
I just froze a lot of the apps from the above posters comment, i'll see how it does
I had lag on my galaxy tab S, but i put CM12.1 on there and it flies. Of course the bootloader is locked here so we're stuck for now
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EVerybody's mileage will differ, but for me its bad. I really want to get a new phone (different one),but not trying to spend the money.
I get about 2hours of screen on time, and I can post pictures of my high temperatures, gets hot quick. I can pretty much never turn the screen on full brightness because there's some limiter that will say "max is 70% because of the temperature". This is the ONLY phone in my life of smartphones that i cant turn the screen fully brights, its horrid
I just froze a lot of the apps from the above posters comment, i'll see how it does
I had lag on my galaxy tab S, but i put CM12.1 on there and it flies. Of course the bootloader is locked here so we're stuck for now
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Multiple LG models prevent max brightness due to temperature, it's just to protect the device from generating more heat until it cools down a bit.
Your high temps (guessing 44-60°C) are caused by the chip being stressed by some app or apps you have installed. Certain apps such as YouTube 720p60/1080p60), games, etc. will make it warm regardless.
Michalko5896 said:
Hi! I'm interested in G Flex 2 because of Snapdragon 810 chipset and great screen. How is your experience so far? I would be greatful if you answer me few questions:
1) I really hate lag - even a slight lag can destroy my experience. I had to sell my LG G2 because of the lag. G Flex 2 was pretty laggy phone with 5.0. Did LG improve performance with 5.1.1 update?
2) How is the screen? Any issues?
3) Is overheating real? (I dont care about hot back cover, but I dont want to have my experience ruined because of extremely laggy throttling phone
4) How good is battery life? I don't need 2 days, just 3-4 hours of on screen time. Is that possible without issues?
5) Any other known issues with the phone?
EDIT: Btw guys, I wrote to LG and got official answer: LG G Flex 2 will recieve 6.0 right after G4.
Thank you very much!
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Just to add my $0.02: I think this is one of the best kept secrets in smartphoneland. I'm really enjoying this phone: I'm not experiencing lag, overheating (or heating in general actually) and battery life is very decent, but it did take some work getting it where I wanted it.
The update v15a+ definitely helps running the phone in a normal way, but I've taken some additional steps to enhance longevity.
1) Root (to enable additional steps)
2) Freeze/ remove bloaty apps (such as LG MLT)
3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
Now I get about 4 hours of SOT on average, which is pretty good For me this means about 2 days of typical usage (not a heavy user in that sense).
As for the screen: it is grainy, but that is something I've gotten used to. I came from an Xperia Z1 and that screen, though not grainy, was actually worse in daily use (viewing angles, blacks etc). The one thing I dislike about the G Flex 2 screen is the high minimum brightness setting. This is incidentally is my only big gripe with the phone.
So all in all: for €300,- (and a little elbow grease) this is a really nice phone.
krispijn_s said:
Just to add my $0.02: I think this is one of the best kept secrets in smartphoneland. I'm really enjoying this phone: I'm not experiencing lag, overheating (or heating in general actually) and battery life is very decent, but it did take some work getting it where I wanted it.
The update v15a+ definitely helps running the phone in a normal way, but I've taken some additional steps to enhance longevity.
1) Root (to enable additional steps)
2) Freeze/ remove bloaty apps (such as LG MLT)
3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
Now I get about 4 hours of SOT on average, which is pretty good For me this means about 2 days of typical usage (not a heavy user in that sense).
As for the screen: it is grainy, but that is something I've gotten used to. I came from an Xperia Z1 and that screen, though not grainy, was actually worse in daily use (viewing angles, blacks etc). The one thing I dislike about the G Flex 2 screen is the high minimum brightness setting. This is incidentally is my only big gripe with the phone.
So all in all: for €300,- (and a little elbow grease) this is a really nice phone.
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Thank you! Xperia Z1 has awful screen so thats no big surprise. And what about keyboard issues? My keyboard was not opening after 5.0 update on G2 and I saw same thing on 5.0 for G Flex 2. Is that fixed in 5.1.1?
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Thank you! Xperia Z1 has awful screen so thats no big surprise. And what about keyboard issues? My keyboard was not opening after 5.0 update on G2 and I saw same thing on 5.0 for G Flex 2. Is that fixed in 5.1.1?
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I guess they fixed it?
I didn't run the phone with 5.0 for long; 20 minutes to be exact, only to update it to 5.1.1. With 5.1.1 I have not experienced any keyboard problems (not with the LG keyboard and not with Swiftkey either).
okay, thank you all. I'm really looking forward. I was huge fan of LG UI, loved KitKat on G2. This is surely my best buy - fricking Snapdragon 810 for 300€.
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3) Disable big cores 2 and 3: this effectively turns the SD810 into a SD808 with an Adreno 430. For me, I don't notice any drop in performance or smoothness, but it does help A LOT with battery life and temperature.
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Can you explain exactly how to do this? I tried something like this before but on reboot all cores were running
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
well made phone, doesn't feel flimsy. SD810 doesn't seem to have the heat issues, screen could be a little better outside, battery life is great, the notification slider on the side is brilliant idea. Oxygen OS by itself sucks but with Xposed and several modules made the phone tons better.
Nice nice phone. I don't regret it!
Battery
Battery standby is extreme long. Tested it: in 12hours lost 3%. (Wi-Fi and Mobile Network was permamently active in my test)
But the active display standby is ~~~ lame.
Its got bit warm than my one+1 but it's ok.
Chasis/Design
The Chasis of phone is real AlMg. You can brake someones nose with that (not tested! )
It feels good in my hands, a bit heavier than one+1
Buyed with Kevlar StyleSwap Cover. Too bad, it's not fitting perfectly but it sit.
Sound
Speakers are louder than my laptop speakers. Clear Sound, no scratches heared.
Speed test and stability
Fast app start, smooth scrolling, switches fast between the apps.
Antutu Benchmark test:
Test run fine with over 55fps average.
With fully installed apps, games, tools etc..
Benchmark result: >58000
Camera/Video
Photo quality is very good. Takes pictures faster as one+1 and in good quality. nothing to say negative about it.
Videos are in good quality too. You can take slow-motion videos too (720p with 120fps)
SD Card
It's a bit faster as in one+1!
~3451MB (28183 files) Recovery backup done in 74 sec.
64MB/s Read/Write speed.
For a phone with 64GB internal memory it's enough speed.
Well. That's all importand tests i have done. If i have missed something, write it down here. i try to answer.
EDIT:
Very easy to unlock bootloader. Same way as in one+1.
Done it in under 5 minutes
On my old phone it was a real ass-disaster... (Xperia S) Never ever again
There are minor software glitches. But I expect everything to be fine in coming months. More than decent performance
love...mostly
i like the oneplus 2 overall, but not yet real excited about oxygen and updates only about once a month since purchase.
the type c connector seems to be usb type 2. OP apparently neglected to make accessory cables (power & otg) for the type c connection on 1+2, except power cable that comes w/phone. this, as of dec., 2015.
For otg: apparently you must go backwards to their usb type 2 otg (made for 1+1) and use their adapter from micro usb to type c connector.
tried a 3rd party otg type c that is usb 3.1: incompatable. perhaps update will fix this (i hope, since i
want to be able to use a flash drive w/phone since it has no micro sd slot). snc
I can try many roms
I can try many roms
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Awesome phone
overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
Really love the phone since i installed CM 13
That runs really smooth and fast + great batterylife
I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
Was contemplating going with the Galaxy S6, but the Notification Slider was a real deal-maker for me (especially being loyal to the Galaxy lineup since S1).
Now owning the 1+2, I noticed I can not discreetly silent my phone in my pocket without taking it out and drawing attention in a meeting).
Have any of you found the Notification Slider to be a lot more useful than you originally thought it to be?
azam_ said:
overall. i m very dissapointed with this phone. Beautiful hardware with strong internals, the oos just make this phone extremely slow
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Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
Sprint82 said:
I don't know if my OPT is defective, the speaker volume is very low. youtube videos or music is "ok" but especially ringtones are very low, I can't hear them outside of my house. At work in my pants it's impossible to hear and feel the phone because the vibration isn't strong enough. If Frenk_Ryder writes that the speaker is louder then the notebook speakers it's hard to believe for me. really?
and the battery life is horrible on my device. plugged it off the charger on 6 am and have only 20 percent on 12 pm with 2 - 3 hours SOT. I'm using the unofficial mahdi builds of cm13. the performance is good but Android System seems to be a battery hogger. I don't know why or what's the problem.
oxygen OS lacks much features of Cyanogen OS or Cyanogenmod and is "not complete at all", and Android System always is on top of the battery stats list. what is the issue for that? I mean Oxygen OS 2.2.0, older versions may be better in terms of battery life?
I hope anyone can help me with my device. thx
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When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
Djarenga said:
Time to root & install another rom H2O is really fine, just try it :laugh:
When does the issue appear about the volume speaker ?
For the battery life, try another rom ( CM13, Skydragon, H2O, .. )
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tried almost all the roms, some have something or the other missing, others have serious battery drain some have wifi issues, others camera is bull****. I miss my z2 so much and i will sell my op2 and get a nexus 7 or whatever its called, when its released
awesome, just needs a bit of software polish...
Near flawless
I have had many phones, mostly Samsungs and LGs. Let me tell you this Oneplus 2 is the perfect phone. WIth the latest OOS 3.0.1 MM, Xposed with Gravitybox, and nova launcher on top, it's a brilliant setup. This thing gets higher scores than the Nexus 6p on every benchmark i've tested, I can game for at least 33 minutes straight of Nova3 (that's the longest straight time I've played any game so far) and no overheating and NO lagging or slowdowns. I don't understand the controversy over overheating and throttling, perhaps the latest models being manufactured are the best models. Overall, I love this phone, also, battery life is incredibly for me. I go two days without one charge and that's using texting about 500 sms a day and web browsing, light youtube, and light music, ON wifi. I've never had a phone quite like it, and for 350 bucks! Awesome.:good::good::good:
Coming from a clapped out Nexus 4, I wanted to really like my One Plus 2 (Oxygen OS 2.2.1) but it was hard; a perfectly adequate phone, but not overwhelming.
The Marshmallow upgrade to Oxygen 3.0.2 has made it the phone it should always have been. It's faster, the fingerprint unlock is better and instantaneous (and no need to wake the device first), the occasional stutters have stopped, the battery lasts longer on standby.
The two standout features for me, however, are not software. Firstly, the alert slider is brilliant. Secondly, there are plenty of cheap Dual SIM phones but few decent ones (in the UK at least).
I only got access to the true potential of the sd810 after switching to a custom rom & kernel
Its Great phone overall.
I guess the sales could be much larger quantities if there were not invites.
Sent from my ONE A2003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I have developed a great degree of love for this phone, especially since it got a wealth of custom ROMs. It performs well, the battery life is excellent, it doesn't prevent me from installing custom ROMs or rooting, and all-in-all I love it. It handles everything I throw at it like a champ, and doesn't complain, and all for less than $300
its a good phone, but i had few hard times because of lack software updates from manufacturer (no android 7.0, no android 7.1, nothing) like on every other non-google phone, but thats life i finally fixed all major issues and it simply works, so i like it again
SOT (Screen On Time) & Kernel discussion for Note 3 with Phronesis, MagmaNX & Aspire
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Note 3 with Phronesis, Magma NX or AspireTeam C9 Pro ROMs SOT (Screen On Time) Battery and custom Kernel Discussion.
Let me start by saying that this tread is born out of a passionate back and forth discussion I had with one the above-mentioned custom ROMs a rather ubiquitous assistant developer here on xda. It all began with his casual use of SOT (Screen On Time) hours he got when asked by a user why his battery was draining. He would, without fail, give the usual line of your usage vary from this to that, and each horse is different from the other, etc. etc. which is fine. But, somewhere along the line, he will casually throw in that he personally gets 7-8 hrs. SOT and possibly reach 11 hrs. That’s when I took him to task, until the moderator asked us to quit and start a discussion thread if we feel the need to go further on the subject of SOT.
So here I am, but first let me say this, I know that this subject is not easy and subjective, but I would like to approach it in a simple way, better yet, can there be a common point here where we all agree what would be a default setting on a custom ROM? I’m proposing WIFI active, Data 4G active, Location active and Bluetooth active. At least the first 3 come activated on every devise you purchase. Most people use these principal services for various connections in their daily lives. Let’s call this for the sake of this argument “Normal Use”.
Xda developers like to always remind users who they call “noobs” ( I certainly was once, and most probably still am) that this is a developer site and you should first break your bones before coming here. Sorry, but that isn’t reality, most custom ROM users are NOT developers, in fact many, many are noobs. In fact, the noobs are what makes a custom ROM successful. The more pages the thread garners and the more downloads, the more the developer appreciates his success and xda benefits.
Now I know there are many factors that paly into SOT, battery age, kernel, ROM, games, wild applications etc. But really, do you think it is wise to promote any custom rom by saying “I personally get 7-8 hrs. SOT and can possibly achieve 11hrs”. Remember, we are talking about a Note 3 stock battery not a custom one. Just imagine what that means; you go to work and come back and you’re still on SOT! I can’t achieve that on an iPad. We’re talking here about a 2017 technology on a 2013 mobile phone device, and the Note 3 was designed with Kitikat 4.2, which is even older.
Granted, you’re a developer or part of the know-how team who can snail tweak the device's software and kernel to achieve a higher SOT, just because you can and you know how. But there is always a price to pay in functionality. I will go even further to say that you do a disservice to the ROM quality and viability by saying that. Even if you achieve that with all those crippling tweaks, most people aren’t ready to use their device as a developer testing machine. Actually, giving them estimates on normal use of 3-4-5 hrs. SOT would be more attuned with reality, and people will not pester your thread with posts asking why they haven’t reached 7-8 hours SOT you bragged about. If they somehow reach a higher SOT on their own, all the praise to the developer. Instead, they have to deal with awful suggestions like “your battery must be dead or something”. Samsung’s best offers never reach more than 5hrs. SOT, if they did, they’d kill the competition. Neither do trimmed down ASOP ROMs.
Finally, I have flashed many ROMS since I got my Note 3, but for this thread let’s keep this discussion limited to Phronesis ROM, Magama NX and AspireTeam since they are the most popular with Note 3 users, and all use Android MM 6.0.1 I’ve used All 3 ROMs above with various kernels and never achieved more than 4 hours with “normal use” (all connections active) 5 hrs. is rare SOT for me even when I use new stock batteries. So, please let us know what is your SOT using what kernel with these ROMS on your Note 3. Do you actually reach 7-8 hrs. SOT? (forget 11. LOL). If you do, tells us how? And please don’t forget to give us some specs about your configuration.
Great @wild wadi
can i suggest something if you do not mind ?
i suggest that users who will post in this thread to start with a report that contains the following :
1 - Device model and Modem & Bootloader.
2 - Kernel and ROM.
3 - A screenshot of the battery usage.
4 - A screenshot of Gsam battery monitor ( App sucker,system,screen)
5 - if you are using Xposed ( mention the modules )
6 - If you are using Lspeed and Kernel auditor ( mention the tweaks )
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
Eleo said:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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My experience is with those 3, they are popular and sufficient to give us some idea. Let's not muddy the water here.
3.5 years old stock battery.
Kernel stock settings.
No Xposed
No Lspeed
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to only one guy !
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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So what is your usage? I shared mine on previous page here. But I dont know your usage. I have wifi/data/location/sync turned on. Bluetooth -> off (i dont have bluetoot device). My apps are present. I use new samsung battery less than a year old. I dont play games. I use quickedit app, mixplorer, mixplorer text editor, apltool x for modding. Youtube, mxplayer for watching video. Samsung music for listening audio (on screen off, not counted in sot value).
Kernel adiutor
1. undervolt (different pvs value device (google to find what it is) will tolerate different values). find your device's sweet spot. I decrease global to -20 mV and 288 to 650mV. I have seen users who got reboots when going below -10mV global and also users with using -50mV global with no issue. Different pvs number different results. Mine was 2 if my mind doesnt fool me.
2. Low memory killer (I adjust higher values so that it doesnt make device slow). It does not affect battery directly.
3. You can change cpu freq but with phantom kernel it is programmed good so I moslty dont even touch it.
Smart Manager:
I advise c5 or s7 sm because it can control apps in background better monitoring ram usage. It is also advised for s4 users since they have 2GB RAM w.r.t. 3 GB RAM of note3 (case for MagMa NX).
Bluelight filter:
Around 20% normal, in dimmer places 50%. At night up to 100%. I edit filter.cfg string for decreasing brightness.
Then check your battery stats to see what is using your battery. I have seen google services and system (adsprcd) using high battery. For google services there are xposed and magisk modules to optimize its used battery. I myself am using button mapper and kill playstore app after openning it (I also disable auto update notifications from playstore -> it updates only when I want). System (adsprcd) was caised by google assistant listening on background. I disabled "ok google" prompt. I use only via long press home button because I dont get hansfree usage at all.
These are wbat I remember from my tweaks and with my usage I get 6-8hrs sot. I hope they are useful
Dont expect getting high sot if you are playing online/heavy games, using media editing stuff (mainly video), bluetooth devices and watching full brightness 1080p youtube videos. But you will see the app usage in gsam battery monitor (stock battery usage will not give you 3rd party app usage info in spite of what is told). Also, we are now optimizing to decrease battery usage by infinity wallpaper on MagMa NX.
APP USAGE is VERY important. That is why when I dont get that info I cannot troubleshoot.
P.S. I use mobile app. "Ignore user" function has not been brought to android
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yes, turned into a bit of a "ding-dong" so I've cleaned some posts.
Please stay on topic, avoid getting "narky" and I also removed a thanks type post... please use thanks button for that
Mike
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yeah thats true. Tweaks from other people using are not the same with other users. App disable, how frequent they have used their phones, on idle or etc. Even they send the screenshot and copied their setup, it depend on how we use our phone. For me SOT screenshot are rubbish. If you all need a good battery life phone, get the exynos version instead(for samsung phone). Theres many comparison talking about sd and exynos on samsung(not gonna explain here). If you got some money just buy the 10K mah zerolemon batteries. Theres too many thread talking about battery, kernels and tweaks, how much more do we need?
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I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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Kind of agree, except for maybe the aryamod. They're kinda old now, discontinued. Old as in the apps in magma and resis are like a year newer. I personally only use magma and resis anymore, and for the record, I get 24hrs SOT. I just don't unplug it ever.
Good thread. I am getting 3h 40m SoT on average with MagmaNX . N900t. Don't have any social media apps except instagram (which i froze).
I honestly believe this phone on anything more than Lollipop is incapable of getting more than 4hrs SoT with "normal" usage (wifi/mobile on). Even with mid-level power saving. The overwhelming number of people who report their SoT is definitive.
Ive been using roms for different phones for 6 years now. This is one of the few where there's such a disparity between what the developer says what "battery life" is and what the average user is reporting.
Whatever "Android System" and "Kernel" is, they are killing the battery
On Lollipop, I was getting 5.5 SoT. On average. With the same battery / apps / usage.
So I will be going back to stock Lollipop. It's unfortunate.
Magma ux10.
Phantom kernel
Kernel audiutor
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Old battery
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I choose to focused on smoothness and no lags than sot. :silly:
What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
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What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
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Couldnt agree more:good::highfive:
Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
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RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel
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You may need to READ the THREAD TITLE and OP again. It is not only for TW MM port ROMs, but also for only 3 ROMs, Phronesis, MagMa NX and Aspire ROMs as said here.
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Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
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As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
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As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
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I think it's because my battery is kinda worn - it was charged over 4700 (!) times so it may have lower capability... But I'm still satisfied with it! (That doesn't mean I wouldn't order new one soon )
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I didnt like the kernels on magma but I started tweeking the lss kernel because it gave me about those 6hours SOT. Therefore I undervolt like 35-50mV and some more stuff in synapse https://m.imgur.com/a/SHEi7 , but I still could not get those 8h.SOT. I did not play games, but i used for instance facebook/messenger, photos etc. I have my note3 for almost 3 years with the stock battery. I also disabled some unused apps. However, the phone performance like scrolling or moving from app to app was laggy. Honestly, now Im on Ressurection Remix https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-resurrection-remix-n-v5-8-3-vanilla-t3615227 and performance is great, no lags, everything is really smooth on android 7 but i miss the samsung apps and features. On the other hand, the samsung apps are badly optimized, bcs samsung. If i had to compare the samsung vs google original apps, i would say that google apps are better and smoother. But, the RR rom has bad battery life for me and Im thinking of returning to Magma now
Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
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...Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot...
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You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
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Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
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You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
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+1.
Those new phones aren't even debloated as those custom ROMs, most of the services if not all of them are enabled.
Not mentioning their performance compared to note 3.
For the 7 pro? I have the US unlocked varient and it doesn't seem as warm as it once did. Jan update may have fixed it.
What build number is the Jan update?
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
31 C... after jan update - mb normal
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My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
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Thanks, was asking because I didn't get it, but then I realized I'm on the beta channel
My 7 Pro has never had a heating issue.
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What program is that?
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What program is that?
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Battery Guru.
Cheers had forgotten about this one
The heating issues for my device were fixed after the December feature drop
Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
And if you wanted values, some battery meters showed as much as 1400 mAh peak drain while watching a youtube video at work on 4g (i have 5g blocked by google), just scrolling through Instagram gave me 890-1100mAh drain while heating my phone, where this value drops to 400-500mAh drain doing the same on Wifi. Idle messenger is like 320 mAh drain over Wifi, at least 900 over LTE. This seems good to you?
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to longer battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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Bro I barely use the phone ...No Twitter no social media , a little utube and music ..I have one game ...No emails ...10 minutes of calling and 10 text a day
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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Yes, the whole issue IS THE TENSOR G2. While it barely offers the CPU performance of the 865-70 (GPU is somewhat "decent"), it eats twice as much power. It's EXTREMELY inefficient and performs well below many other "flagship" SOCs while it consumes more power than those.
How much you pay for the phone doesn't automatically grant you a PREMIUM battery life. It may grant you a "premium" performance...
If you know the TECH that well, you would understand why buying a flagship device will never give you the "best" battery life, no matter how much you pay for the device. The reasons behind it is already mentioned in my previous reply. FACT.
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entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain
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Sorry but this seems with no proof at all
I get the VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G things, which are indeed limited by Google
Not the "sabotage", even because on an unsupported MVNO the battery consumption was mostly the same as the host network
My P7P has run much, much cooler than my P6P ever did, it's never run hot.
It will only get hot for few minutes after the update. Your phone is indexing your file and optimising system app due to update. Those two process use a lot of CPU.
After it's done the phone should run normally. No Heat issue on mine. Unless i open the stupid youtube music which somehow use way too much cpu power