Well, Saving your phone's battery without compromising your phone's performance will be a little difficult for everyone. Everyone nowadays prefer phones which can last them for atleast a day. But what if we could extend our phone's battery life to 1.5 days or 2 days without compromising the power of your phone?
Yup. That's possible. I've been experimenting with my Note III SM-N900 [Indian Exynos Model]. I did it for almost like 6 months. My aim was to maximize my phone's battery life. And finally I found it. I wanna share all my results and the secret tips to save that last precious drop of your battery juice!
[NOTE: [Please keep in mind that I own a Exynos Model, i.e, SM-N900 and made all the customization on this model only. Many methods explained herein might not work for you.]]
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So, first a few words on my phone's history:
When I first got my brave and good looking Note 3, I was on 7th heaven. I got Android 4.3 Jellybean onboard. I used to get 2 days of unparalleled battery life. Smooth UI. But, very few customization. Previously I used to own a Galaxy SII i9100G. It had a great potential and till date is considered as the most selling Galaxy Variant. But, still I was happy. Then came the wave of KitKat 4.4.2. Guys, you won't believe, I spent weeks in the dilemma of the fact - Should I root or not root. Should I first update and then root? Should I root and then update? I was going crazy.
But then I decided. No, I should first update via OTA and then root my phone. And then, I did it. But soon I realised that I did a wrong thing. I experienced very, very poor battery life. With 3G on and screen time of 3-4 hrs, my phone used to die. But then I thoguht, there's still hope. Thus, I spend a lot of days into finding the best customisation for improving the battery life. And after 6 months, now I finally got the best battery life.
Guys, another thing I would like to say here is that, there was a very good article on saving battery life before, made by stanley08. [READ IT HERE].
STEPS TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BATTERY LIFE
1. Kernel Customisations:
Well, as you all know, kernel is the thing that sits between your software and hardware. Doing optimal changes to it is the best way out there to save battery. First of all currently there are two best kernels out there. halaszk and pekaka. Both are absolutely amazing kernels and I found halaszk to offer a greater number of modifications. But for everyday use I use pekaka now. On the top, it doesn't matter that much. So, let's get started.
First of all, halaszk kernel comes with a very powerful tool called synapse. It allows you to individually set the frequencies, voltages, GPU speed etc.
If you wanna use pekaka, then use an app such as Trickster MOD app from PlayStore.
The main part comes now:
1. Reduce all A15 cores to -25 mv each.
2. Reduce all A7 cores to -13.5 mv each.
3. Use 0 as the parameter for Multicore Power Saving
4. Use Interactive or Ondemand governor.
5. Use CPU frequencies upto 1.3 or 1.4 GhZ.
6. Use GPU frequencies upto 340 or equivalent
That's the kernel part.
2. ROM:
Using custom rom might not be that important because almost all roms available now are either stock or MIUI. So, it won't make a difference. Still some roms might be slightly better.
One rom that I found was Alba's Ultralite roms. These roms have been developed by a russian developer. The thing that's really good in these roms is that, the Ultralite series weigh around 600-700 MB and are totally debloated. So, lesser the bloatware, lesser is the memory consumed and hence, lesser is the battery consumed.
Another rom to observe is Dr. Ketan's Rom series. Many users are satisfied with the balance of battery life and lots of customisations.
Some other good roms are Alliance ROM, and Murat ROMS. There might be many more roms with good battery life. Users may leave their comment below and I'll add them.
3. Memory:
Yup, more memory means more battery. Many would disagree with me but, I tried it out and saw amazing results. I would suggest you to use Clean Master to clear cache, memory and check out your phone's temperature.
4. USPM MOD:
Xperiacle, an amazing developer[And my fav!] has developed a module called UPSM mod. Ultra Power Saving Mode, was found in Galaxy S5. He did an amazing job and has developed this module, which allows you to activate UPSM or Emergency Mode. Doing this, will limit you to basic apps such as Phone, Whatssap, etc and will prove immensely helpful for saving battery. This is highly recommended for an y battery savvy. There's also another Xposed module which reduces NLP Kernel wakelocks, thus making your phone sleep better. Download it here.
5. Reception/Signal:
Believe it or not, this is the part that takes away a huge toll on your battery. If you have bad reception, you ought to have a bad battery life. I saw the results myself. On full signal, my phone's battery dropped to around 98% after 6 hrs standby whereas on 1 bar signal, I found my battery to be 82% after 6 hrs standby. this is because, your phone tries to continuously searches for better battery.
6. 3G/ WIFI:
Personally I found 3G to consume much more battery than WiFi. So, it is advisable to keep it turned off while not in use. If you get a simultaneous screen on time and total 3G usage time of 5-6 hrs, you're great! That's the best you can get.
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool! I mean, always check if any background apps are running continuously.
8. Greenify:
Hey, I am not talking about afforestation or something! I am talking about a wonderful app called Greenify. Now, what it does is, it freezes the background processes and apps [which you select], and thus frees up a lot of memory.
9. Debloat:
Yup, lot's of apps on your phone may slow it down and deteriorate your phone's battery. Try removing apps that you don't use anymore.
Also, another thing I would like to suggest you all, is to keep reflashing your rom every 2 to 3 months. This would ensure less momory clutter and defragmentation. Also, it would keep your phone running smooth. Also, as you might already know, AMOLED displays consume much battery for bright colors and brightness level of the screen. So, it's advisable to use dark wallpapers.
So, guys these were some of the customisations I used to achieve the perfect balance of battery life and performance. If you have any more idea or trick to save battery, do post it below. We'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks! And do share this thread with others.
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UPDATE:13/10/2014
Here are some amazing benchmarks of my friend/contributer @Spitwista
He has also come up with a great way to save battery.
Things to look at
1. 30 Minutes gaming(Real drifting)
2. 30 minutes music (power amp)
3. 7Hrs SOT
4. More than 24Hrs full run time
5. True deep sleep
6. Smooth and 100% stable all around
7. Using Halaszk kernel v20.b2
For now, check out these screenshots:
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Guys, I am currently testing on XXUENI1 the latest firmware. Will soon give the battery statistics.
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Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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thetitanium said:
Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
r-l said:
Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
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Will give it soon.
EDIT:
Here are the screen shots. Love this firmware.
Note that I started monitoring from 85% and used mobile data all the time when WiFi wasn't on.
Will soon post a fresh screenshot.
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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tarantulapg said:
Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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I believe MultiX is not for SM-N900..... Very less roms for exynos......
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thetitanium said:
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool!
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Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
You are too much forcing yourself to lengthen the battery life while limiting yourself from users' accessibility and ease.
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No bro..... not at all.... even I clearly mentioned it in the OP. Read and then speak bro.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
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Maannn..... please read the 7th point carefully. Nowhere did I mention that temperature degrades battery life. Please read things carefully and then say me what's wrong with my post.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Now here's my clarification:
1. As I already said, I started monitoring from 85% after charging (see the pics)
2. I did put it on airplane mode for 10mins in the end. (Any person with just 2% battery will do)
3. Ya.... 3rd conclusion is true. I did everything ideal battery test guidelines as per GSMARENA. I even played a few games which didn't show up on the battery screen. Also, Whatsapp was on the whole time and my life is unimaginable without it.
4. My screen brightness was at 50% and 3g on for 4-5 hrs. I only use 3G.
Hope that classifies all your doubt. Will very soon post new battery results since the previous one was a bit controversial.
Many members of XDA are currently testing my settings and will soon give me the results. Thank you.
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nice guide. thnaks
BiIIyTheKid said:
nice guide. thnaks
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Thanks bro...... Any suggestions or any more tips?
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Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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Graffiti Exploit said:
Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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See, undervolting my just a few mvs doesn't slow your phone down. That only happens when you under clock way more. By the way your phone seems quite good.
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Guys...... New Scripts, tips and settings are soon coming..... Keep checking.....
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Now a days I am experiencing such poor battery life. I am not able to track the exact reason of it.
This is my configuration
1. Stock XXKPQ with tarunagg's ICS rom. Latest BCK kernel with 1ghz max & 300 min freq.
2. Screen off profile in set cpu with max 300 mhz & max 300 mhz for better battery life.
3. smartassv2 & sio
4. Freezed most off the unwanted stock bloatware like maps, layer & many more.
5. Purposefully I kept autusync off for batter battery life.
6. I use 2g net alot for surfing & downloading whole day.
7. Not using any scripts or tweaks.
8. Brightness is kept at lowest level.
9. Phone can easily enter into deep sleep mode.
I am posting screenshots of battery life. From screenshot you can see that my screen is awake more than 4 hours & it consumes more than 60%. I already mentioned that my screen brightness is lowest then why my phone sonsumes such a huge battery...? Now my phone is 1.2 year old.
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Have a look on betterbatterystats?
Already I have seen in batterystat. But nothing new info I am getting in that.
vishal24387 said:
Already I have seen in batterystat. But nothing new info I am getting in that.
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vishal
try to wipe .and reboot
some app hold on
vishal24387 said:
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2. Screen off profile in set cpu with max 300 mhz & max 300 mhz for better battery life.
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My testing showed that this actually consumes more power. But anyway, the screen-off state is not your problem.
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6. I use 2g net alot for surfing & downloading whole day.
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That actually consumes a lot of battery. If you're surfing, use 3G or even better WiFi. Per unit of transferred data, WiFi consumes the least power. Turn it off after surfing.
vishal24387 said:
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1. Stock XXKPQ with tarunagg's ICS rom. Latest BCK kernel with 1ghz max & 300 min freq.
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7. Not using any scripts or tweaks.
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You are using a custom ROM. I would bet that there a re lots of tweaks included as is. Maybe this is one more problem, maybe not.
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I am posting screenshots of battery life. From screenshot you can see that my screen is awake more than 4 hours & it consumes more than 60%.
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And there you have your main reason for a short battery life. The screen is the biggest consumer in any modern touchscreen phone and there is nothing you can do about that.
10 hours off charge with 4 hours display time? I'm jealous.
loukalok said:
vishal
try to wipe .and reboot
some app hold on
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wiped dalvik cache & cache many times but i have not experienced any major improvement.
XDA_Bam said:
My testing showed that this actually consumes more power. But anyway, the screen-off state is not your problem.
That actually consumes a lot of battery. If you're surfing, use 3G or even better WiFi. Per unit of transferred data, WiFi consumes the least power. Turn it off after surfing.
You are using a custom ROM. I would bet that there a re lots of tweaks included as is. Maybe this is one more problem, maybe not.
And there you have your main reason for a short battery life. The screen is the biggest consumer in any modern touchscreen phone and there is nothing you can do about that.
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I think you are right. 2g consumes alot of battery than 3g & wifi. But in india 3g is like very much costly. So for net purpose I have to use 2g.
I am using stock xxkpq rom & not any custom rom.
Leaving my phone on wifi the whole day+at least 5 hrs of usage gives me about 10hrs battery life at least
Cheers
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Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
vishal24387 said:
Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
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Its true that symbian phones get good battery life.. i have a C7..
its just that symbian phone aint resourse hungry, n c7(or n8) has oly 678mhz processor.. display smaller n its AMOLED.., n also t os doesn handle much activities lyk an android..
hence the battery consumption s less..
vishal24387 said:
Actually I should not compare like this (because comparison is of different OS which are at different level) but my friend have nokia n8 phone with more brightness than our phone. Also its daily phone usage is nearly like me. But it has superb battery life of nearly 26 hours easily.
Androis is great OS but cursed with huge battery drain. Developers of google have to do something about this. Dont u think so guys...?
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That's not a fair comparison.
N8: 3,5" AMOLED, 640×360 px
I9003: 4" LCD, 800x480 px
And from your screenshot it's obviuos that the main problem is the screen, maybe you keep it too high.
And by the way your battery life it's not that bad, I get few more hours than you.
may be ur battery is becoming old and has been degraded!!
have u checked for it??
loSconosciuto said:
That's not a fair comparison.
N8: 3,5" AMOLED, 640×360 px
I9003: 4" LCD, 800x480 px
And from your screenshot it's obviuos that the main problem is the screen, maybe you keep it too high.
And by the way your battery life it's not that bad, I get few more hours than you.
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May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like nokia c7 or n8. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
sachin sharma said:
may be ur battery is becoming old and has been degraded!!
have u checked for it??
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how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
vishal24387 said:
May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like galaxy ace. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
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Firstly switch to wifi whenever at home.. It'll highly reduce battery consumption.. Also always use oly 2g mode.. Cuz searching for 3g signal consumes more battery..
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vishal24387 said:
how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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May b u can Chk if the battery is swollen..
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vishal24387 said:
how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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Nah your battery hasn't degraded. Trust me
Cheers
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vishal24387 said:
May be you are right. But I have observed my friend's galaxy ace with purely stock rom which has nearly same specs like nokia c7 or n8. It has same ram, processor, screen size etc. But is has worst battery life. Android OS can handle lots of resources but like my friends tease me that whats the use of such OS if someone cant use his android phone more than just 10 hours???
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Well, it's always AMOLED vs LCD, but probably Symbian is better in this, but it's less powerful than Android.
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how to check it?? I dont think so there is any method for it.
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mmm, maybe this:
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
and see your battery health.
Anyway I don't think there's an easy and reliable way to know if your battery is good or not.
I know, I always post this, but it's a good article IMO: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries (the graph itself shows you how much the battery capacity degrades)
bscraze said:
Nah your battery hasn't degraded. Trust me
Cheers
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Ya my battery is good. Its not swollen. I think its now older & due to 2g network battery is draining alot.
Anyone Tried this yet?
Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
App is from Qualcomm.
I've never used apps the limit functionality to save battery before, but if anyone would know how to do this right, it should be Qualcomm.
Snapdragon™ BatteryGuru extends battery performance and improves overall user experience by intelligently making changes that optimize Snapdragon device functionality. This app:
• Delivers longer battery life with fewer charges
• Intelligently learns how you use your Snapdragon smartphone and optimizes your device without disabling smartphone functionality
• Requires no user configuration - Snapdragon BatteryGuru automatically learns and adjusts the smartphone settings so you don’t have to.
After a brief 2-4 day introduction period, Snapdragon BatteryGuru learns the user’s behaviors and then notifies the user that it is ready to extend the battery life and improve the experience. Snapdragon BatteryGuru continues to operate in the background, deepening its understanding of the user and further optimizing the experience over time.
Thanks man!
Will give it a go.
I'm not really sure on what the value of these apps are.
Letting my phone do whatever it wants when I'm on wifi and my phone is sitting idle, my phone uses around 1%/hour of battery life.
Some portion of that is all this app could really save then, right?
Why bother if, in exchange, I'm possibly having delayed notifications, apps not updating in the background, etc.?
Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
I'll be shocked if this makes any discernable difference.
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I installed this and 3 days later it was still in learning mode. I got tired of waiting for it to do something else, so I deleted it and installed Greenify.
I'll give it a whirl.
I may try this out, but I already have the no–brainer solution to battery life woes...a big fat extended battery. If only lots of others would do the same lol.
I use the cPU sleeper, i;; give this a try, i get great batt life on stock, stock kernel..
Some of the reviews said it actually drained the battery. Might be wort trying but I have my doubts.
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I've had it on my sick Verizon s3 for about 3 days, so far not impressed. It took 2 days in learning mode, then once that period ended it seems to actually be a significant battery drainer! I will try for another couple of days and report back, but I'm not optimistic so far.
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It seems to keep me from adjusting my CPU with rom toolbox pro or system tuner pro. Can someone else that is running a custom kernal (IMO 2.0) and let me know if they can adjust theirs.
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This is an app written and distributed by a component manufacturer. They will cut speed/processing power as much as they can to make the device use less battery. This inherently means the app will take control of the CPU/governor adjustments. A kernel such as KT with an app that LOCKS frequencies may prevent this, but also will render the app useless.
They aren't concerned with the same things as we in the rooting world are. We want to push as much processing power as possible while using the least amount of electrical power needed, not slow the device down while hoping ppl don't notice. Lol..
I too experienced battery drain from this app.
+1 on CPU Sleeper
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tryed for about 1weeks.
After the learning mode...it started to appear as one of the most stealer of battery life...with 12/13% of daily battery usage. Disinstalled lol ...and my phone seems to be turned at a good battery life
The Problem With The S4 That It Has More Cpu Then It Needs. It Doesnt Have To Use It Cpu Up To 1600 Mhz, But It Automatically Does,
It Works Perfectly At 2 Cores And 800 Mhz, No Difference, Only A Better Experience , Please Read On
Ok Guys, This Will Be The Battery Discussion Page For The S4, We Will Be Doing Kernel And Under Volting Test, And Ways To Save Battery,
We Will Post Battery Records Here, And Many Other Things, This Is How It Works
I Will Post Mine Tomorrow After Fully Charging
Must Be Fully Charged Till 5 Percent Charge Without Pluging In Cable In Between,
And You Must Use Your Device As You Would Everyday
Install Cpu Spy
This Is The Layout You Fill In For Your Post
ROM:
KERNEL:
CPU MIN:
CPU MAX:
CPU GOVERNOR:
CORES ONLINE:
CORES OFFLINE:
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Information Of How You Used Your Phone During The Process
And Any Other Information Like The Apps You Have Installed, And The App You Use To Save Battery With, Or Your
App Alternatives For Better Battery Life
Attach Photos (screenshots) Of Your Battery Record, Stats, And On Screen Time Using The Stock App In The Settings
And Your Cpu Spy Page
"i For One Have 2 Cores Offline And Under Volted To 250-800 On Both Online Cores And Have The Ondemand Governor Activated, And I Havent Felt Performance Lost, Runs Temple Run And Subway Surfers Perfectly, And No Heat, Even If Im Charging With Wifi On And Im Downloading Something, Its Great
Seems to be a nice idea. But could you elaborate as on why the text is bold and you had to use capslock for 1/2 of it!?
@slind ok i fixed the post. i will be posting links to the posts who are great battery savers without loosing performance
So basically, we use an I9500 like an Ace or a Grand to get rid of heating and battery drains.. Andyou suggest that it won't result in performance loss. I'd suggest playing games that are more graphically intensive and not just Temple Run.. Try copying data from one memory card to another, or simply try running a Full HD Video. Also, check out web browsing or maybe multitasking, and you'll see where the performance dies out.
I think the fix should come in the upcoming releases of stock firmware by Samsung. By turning off a couple of cores, you're only going back a couple of years. I don't think I upgraded from the S3 to S4 for that reason.
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The Problem With The S4 That It Has More Cpu Then It Needs. It Doesnt Have To Use It Cpu Up To 1600 Mhz, But It Automatically Does,
It Works Perfectly At 2 Cores And 800 Mhz, No Difference, Only A Better Experience , Please Read On
Ok Guys, This Will Be The Battery Discussion Page For The S4, We Will Be Doing Kernel And Under Volting Test, And Ways To Save Battery,
We Will Post Battery Records Here, And Many Other Things, This Is How It Works
I Will Post Mine Tomorrow After Fully Charging
Must Be Fully Charged Till 5 Percent Charge Without Pluging In Cable In Between,
And You Must Use Your Device As You Would Everyday
Install Cpu Spy
This Is The Layout You Fill In For Your Post
Information Of How You Used Your Phone During The Process
And Any Other Information Like The Apps You Have Installed, And The App You Use To Save Battery With, Or Your
App Alternatives For Better Battery Life
Attach Photos (screenshots) Of Your Battery Record, Stats, And On Screen Time Using The Stock App In The Settings
And Your Cpu Spy Page
"i For One Have 2 Cores Offline And Under Volted To 250-800 On Both Online Cores And Have The Ondemand Governor Activated, And I Havent Felt Performance Lost, Runs Temple Run And Subway Surfers Perfectly, And No Heat, Even If Im Charging With Wifi On And Im Downloading Something, Its Great
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post some screenshots with your screen time.
@adyscorpius
everyone has there preferences and there needs in a phone. and there own settings. and this is a Battery discussion thread. we will be doing many performance and voltage mods, so everyone could choose the settings that suits them. now please dont post aggressive post like that, im not stupid. i know that my settings are very low.
but for my most played games and most used apps. it doesnt seem to effect my performance, so im comfortable with my settings
i had the phone for 2 weeks, happily showing off battery performance and then i asked myself again, why the heck i bought this phone in the first place? BECAUSE IT HAS REPLACABLE BATTERY!.. LOL.. how silly i am trying to squeeze that little drop of power out of the battery when I can double the battery just by getting another spare.
no need to turn off anything, no need to drop performance or screen brightness.. just pure enjoyment of the full potential without worrying battery problem.. just get a spare.
cabloomi said:
@adyscorpius
everyone has there preferences and there needs in a phone. and there own settings. and this is a Battery discussion thread. we will be doing many performance and voltage mods, so everyone could choose the settings that suits them. now please dont post aggressive post like that, im not stupid. i know that my settings are very low.
but for my most played games and most used apps. it doesnt seem to effect my performance, so im comfortable with my settings
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I didn't mean to be aggresive and sorry if you felt like that. All I mean is, there is a limit to which you can undervolt/underclock your phone without losing the functionality or speed. While underclocking to 1.0 ghz or 1.2 ghz sounds kinda normal, going all the way down to 800 Mhz and that too only on two cores is like running Galaxy Ace Dual Core instead. Why would I want to spoil my S4 for it?
That is all that I meant. And the phone is normally shelling out a good day's use in normal usage. Why bother so much about battery really???
My S4 i9505 came with MDE ROM from the factory, apart from doing dirty flashes over dirty flashes, finally someone came up with a recovery which is working. So i've :
1. Formatted system , cache , dalvik
2. Loaded in Djembey's stock slim deodexed ME2 ROM.
3. Using PimpMyROM, did some moderately less aggressive tweaks.
4. Capped the Max frequency at 1674MHz. Interactive gov, Noop sched.
5. Fully charged and unplugged.
6. Fully on 3G . Gmail sync for calendars, contacts, mail, keep, notes. Moderately heavy on Gtalk and Whatsapp. Browsing news and websites.
Observed 4 hours screen time.
Almost 15 hours of total usage + standby (This doesn't mean much, screen time depicts usage time more)
The phone still feels warmer than S2, under operation.
I've yet to try faux kernel yet, but i doubt it would get much better than this. The physical limit i feel is on the CPU, HD AMOLEDs, and the modem itself under normal usage.
Feel free to comment.
Hi,
hope you may be able to help. I have been trying almost everthing to increase the music volume as the s4 does not drive my senheiser headphones as well I would like. Is it possible to increase the gain through a kernel mod somehow?
Wow you're really random. This thread isn't even remotely discussing about the issue you raised.
Try the omega ROM thread, see if the functionality list includes volume hack.
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How does one go about disabling two of the cores ? c:
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Revontheus said:
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
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To add to what they said though, certain Kernels with certain Roms can HELP with battery life but it all boils down to how the user uses it. I can tell you that with my same usage on KitKat and Cyanogenmod 11 (CM11), I get better battery life out of CM11. I recorded about a 4 hour longer battery life on CM11 as opposed to default KitKat that comes on the device.
You should look into CM11, it's a cleaner, more effecient, more customizable version of KitKat.
Hope this helps!
Great job to Viking on explaining battery life/Roms
@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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Underclocked, for the Nexus 5 , I never saw this, have you a link?
All Nexus 5 are clocked at max 2,26 Ghz, nothing less... It seems that there is different variants of the S800 (clocked at 2,4/2,5 Ghz) but the S800 in the Nexus 5 it's 2,26 Ghz (MSM8974AA).
Maybe you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_800?
I have no issues with battery life ... I consistently get 14-20 hours of use with 3-5 hours of screen time or 2-3 hours of screen with 1-2 hours of voice.
Auto brightness, GPS on, nothing special.
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Oh thank goodness, I saw some reviews saying it comes pre-throttled to save battery
Thanks
battery life is terrible but after some modification, it better a lot.
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I get 24 hours and 5 to 6 screen time. Tweaked heavily with battery life in mind.
Its nearly as good as my Moto x.
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SOT (Screen On Time) & Kernel discussion for Note 3 with Phronesis, MagmaNX & Aspire
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Note 3 with Phronesis, Magma NX or AspireTeam C9 Pro ROMs SOT (Screen On Time) Battery and custom Kernel Discussion.
Let me start by saying that this tread is born out of a passionate back and forth discussion I had with one the above-mentioned custom ROMs a rather ubiquitous assistant developer here on xda. It all began with his casual use of SOT (Screen On Time) hours he got when asked by a user why his battery was draining. He would, without fail, give the usual line of your usage vary from this to that, and each horse is different from the other, etc. etc. which is fine. But, somewhere along the line, he will casually throw in that he personally gets 7-8 hrs. SOT and possibly reach 11 hrs. That’s when I took him to task, until the moderator asked us to quit and start a discussion thread if we feel the need to go further on the subject of SOT.
So here I am, but first let me say this, I know that this subject is not easy and subjective, but I would like to approach it in a simple way, better yet, can there be a common point here where we all agree what would be a default setting on a custom ROM? I’m proposing WIFI active, Data 4G active, Location active and Bluetooth active. At least the first 3 come activated on every devise you purchase. Most people use these principal services for various connections in their daily lives. Let’s call this for the sake of this argument “Normal Use”.
Xda developers like to always remind users who they call “noobs” ( I certainly was once, and most probably still am) that this is a developer site and you should first break your bones before coming here. Sorry, but that isn’t reality, most custom ROM users are NOT developers, in fact many, many are noobs. In fact, the noobs are what makes a custom ROM successful. The more pages the thread garners and the more downloads, the more the developer appreciates his success and xda benefits.
Now I know there are many factors that paly into SOT, battery age, kernel, ROM, games, wild applications etc. But really, do you think it is wise to promote any custom rom by saying “I personally get 7-8 hrs. SOT and can possibly achieve 11hrs”. Remember, we are talking about a Note 3 stock battery not a custom one. Just imagine what that means; you go to work and come back and you’re still on SOT! I can’t achieve that on an iPad. We’re talking here about a 2017 technology on a 2013 mobile phone device, and the Note 3 was designed with Kitikat 4.2, which is even older.
Granted, you’re a developer or part of the know-how team who can snail tweak the device's software and kernel to achieve a higher SOT, just because you can and you know how. But there is always a price to pay in functionality. I will go even further to say that you do a disservice to the ROM quality and viability by saying that. Even if you achieve that with all those crippling tweaks, most people aren’t ready to use their device as a developer testing machine. Actually, giving them estimates on normal use of 3-4-5 hrs. SOT would be more attuned with reality, and people will not pester your thread with posts asking why they haven’t reached 7-8 hours SOT you bragged about. If they somehow reach a higher SOT on their own, all the praise to the developer. Instead, they have to deal with awful suggestions like “your battery must be dead or something”. Samsung’s best offers never reach more than 5hrs. SOT, if they did, they’d kill the competition. Neither do trimmed down ASOP ROMs.
Finally, I have flashed many ROMS since I got my Note 3, but for this thread let’s keep this discussion limited to Phronesis ROM, Magama NX and AspireTeam since they are the most popular with Note 3 users, and all use Android MM 6.0.1 I’ve used All 3 ROMs above with various kernels and never achieved more than 4 hours with “normal use” (all connections active) 5 hrs. is rare SOT for me even when I use new stock batteries. So, please let us know what is your SOT using what kernel with these ROMS on your Note 3. Do you actually reach 7-8 hrs. SOT? (forget 11. LOL). If you do, tells us how? And please don’t forget to give us some specs about your configuration.
Great @wild wadi
can i suggest something if you do not mind ?
i suggest that users who will post in this thread to start with a report that contains the following :
1 - Device model and Modem & Bootloader.
2 - Kernel and ROM.
3 - A screenshot of the battery usage.
4 - A screenshot of Gsam battery monitor ( App sucker,system,screen)
5 - if you are using Xposed ( mention the modules )
6 - If you are using Lspeed and Kernel auditor ( mention the tweaks )
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
Eleo said:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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My experience is with those 3, they are popular and sufficient to give us some idea. Let's not muddy the water here.
3.5 years old stock battery.
Kernel stock settings.
No Xposed
No Lspeed
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to only one guy !
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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So what is your usage? I shared mine on previous page here. But I dont know your usage. I have wifi/data/location/sync turned on. Bluetooth -> off (i dont have bluetoot device). My apps are present. I use new samsung battery less than a year old. I dont play games. I use quickedit app, mixplorer, mixplorer text editor, apltool x for modding. Youtube, mxplayer for watching video. Samsung music for listening audio (on screen off, not counted in sot value).
Kernel adiutor
1. undervolt (different pvs value device (google to find what it is) will tolerate different values). find your device's sweet spot. I decrease global to -20 mV and 288 to 650mV. I have seen users who got reboots when going below -10mV global and also users with using -50mV global with no issue. Different pvs number different results. Mine was 2 if my mind doesnt fool me.
2. Low memory killer (I adjust higher values so that it doesnt make device slow). It does not affect battery directly.
3. You can change cpu freq but with phantom kernel it is programmed good so I moslty dont even touch it.
Smart Manager:
I advise c5 or s7 sm because it can control apps in background better monitoring ram usage. It is also advised for s4 users since they have 2GB RAM w.r.t. 3 GB RAM of note3 (case for MagMa NX).
Bluelight filter:
Around 20% normal, in dimmer places 50%. At night up to 100%. I edit filter.cfg string for decreasing brightness.
Then check your battery stats to see what is using your battery. I have seen google services and system (adsprcd) using high battery. For google services there are xposed and magisk modules to optimize its used battery. I myself am using button mapper and kill playstore app after openning it (I also disable auto update notifications from playstore -> it updates only when I want). System (adsprcd) was caised by google assistant listening on background. I disabled "ok google" prompt. I use only via long press home button because I dont get hansfree usage at all.
These are wbat I remember from my tweaks and with my usage I get 6-8hrs sot. I hope they are useful
Dont expect getting high sot if you are playing online/heavy games, using media editing stuff (mainly video), bluetooth devices and watching full brightness 1080p youtube videos. But you will see the app usage in gsam battery monitor (stock battery usage will not give you 3rd party app usage info in spite of what is told). Also, we are now optimizing to decrease battery usage by infinity wallpaper on MagMa NX.
APP USAGE is VERY important. That is why when I dont get that info I cannot troubleshoot.
P.S. I use mobile app. "Ignore user" function has not been brought to android
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yes, turned into a bit of a "ding-dong" so I've cleaned some posts.
Please stay on topic, avoid getting "narky" and I also removed a thanks type post... please use thanks button for that
Mike
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yeah thats true. Tweaks from other people using are not the same with other users. App disable, how frequent they have used their phones, on idle or etc. Even they send the screenshot and copied their setup, it depend on how we use our phone. For me SOT screenshot are rubbish. If you all need a good battery life phone, get the exynos version instead(for samsung phone). Theres many comparison talking about sd and exynos on samsung(not gonna explain here). If you got some money just buy the 10K mah zerolemon batteries. Theres too many thread talking about battery, kernels and tweaks, how much more do we need?
Eleo said:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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Kind of agree, except for maybe the aryamod. They're kinda old now, discontinued. Old as in the apps in magma and resis are like a year newer. I personally only use magma and resis anymore, and for the record, I get 24hrs SOT. I just don't unplug it ever.
Good thread. I am getting 3h 40m SoT on average with MagmaNX . N900t. Don't have any social media apps except instagram (which i froze).
I honestly believe this phone on anything more than Lollipop is incapable of getting more than 4hrs SoT with "normal" usage (wifi/mobile on). Even with mid-level power saving. The overwhelming number of people who report their SoT is definitive.
Ive been using roms for different phones for 6 years now. This is one of the few where there's such a disparity between what the developer says what "battery life" is and what the average user is reporting.
Whatever "Android System" and "Kernel" is, they are killing the battery
On Lollipop, I was getting 5.5 SoT. On average. With the same battery / apps / usage.
So I will be going back to stock Lollipop. It's unfortunate.
Magma ux10.
Phantom kernel
Kernel audiutor
Xposed installed
Old battery
:silly:
I choose to focused on smoothness and no lags than sot. :silly:
What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
:silly:
zack483 said:
What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
:silly:
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Couldnt agree more:good::highfive:
Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
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Rexor10 said:
RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel
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You may need to READ the THREAD TITLE and OP again. It is not only for TW MM port ROMs, but also for only 3 ROMs, Phronesis, MagMa NX and Aspire ROMs as said here.
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Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
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As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
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As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
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I think it's because my battery is kinda worn - it was charged over 4700 (!) times so it may have lower capability... But I'm still satisfied with it! (That doesn't mean I wouldn't order new one soon )
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I didnt like the kernels on magma but I started tweeking the lss kernel because it gave me about those 6hours SOT. Therefore I undervolt like 35-50mV and some more stuff in synapse https://m.imgur.com/a/SHEi7 , but I still could not get those 8h.SOT. I did not play games, but i used for instance facebook/messenger, photos etc. I have my note3 for almost 3 years with the stock battery. I also disabled some unused apps. However, the phone performance like scrolling or moving from app to app was laggy. Honestly, now Im on Ressurection Remix https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-resurrection-remix-n-v5-8-3-vanilla-t3615227 and performance is great, no lags, everything is really smooth on android 7 but i miss the samsung apps and features. On the other hand, the samsung apps are badly optimized, bcs samsung. If i had to compare the samsung vs google original apps, i would say that google apps are better and smoother. But, the RR rom has bad battery life for me and Im thinking of returning to Magma now
Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
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...Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot...
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You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
Rexo_75 said:
Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
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Eleo said:
You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
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+1.
Those new phones aren't even debloated as those custom ROMs, most of the services if not all of them are enabled.
Not mentioning their performance compared to note 3.