SOT (Screen On Time) & Kernel discussion for Note 3 with Phronesis, MagmaNX & Aspire
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Note 3 with Phronesis, Magma NX or AspireTeam C9 Pro ROMs SOT (Screen On Time) Battery and custom Kernel Discussion.
Let me start by saying that this tread is born out of a passionate back and forth discussion I had with one the above-mentioned custom ROMs a rather ubiquitous assistant developer here on xda. It all began with his casual use of SOT (Screen On Time) hours he got when asked by a user why his battery was draining. He would, without fail, give the usual line of your usage vary from this to that, and each horse is different from the other, etc. etc. which is fine. But, somewhere along the line, he will casually throw in that he personally gets 7-8 hrs. SOT and possibly reach 11 hrs. That’s when I took him to task, until the moderator asked us to quit and start a discussion thread if we feel the need to go further on the subject of SOT.
So here I am, but first let me say this, I know that this subject is not easy and subjective, but I would like to approach it in a simple way, better yet, can there be a common point here where we all agree what would be a default setting on a custom ROM? I’m proposing WIFI active, Data 4G active, Location active and Bluetooth active. At least the first 3 come activated on every devise you purchase. Most people use these principal services for various connections in their daily lives. Let’s call this for the sake of this argument “Normal Use”.
Xda developers like to always remind users who they call “noobs” ( I certainly was once, and most probably still am) that this is a developer site and you should first break your bones before coming here. Sorry, but that isn’t reality, most custom ROM users are NOT developers, in fact many, many are noobs. In fact, the noobs are what makes a custom ROM successful. The more pages the thread garners and the more downloads, the more the developer appreciates his success and xda benefits.
Now I know there are many factors that paly into SOT, battery age, kernel, ROM, games, wild applications etc. But really, do you think it is wise to promote any custom rom by saying “I personally get 7-8 hrs. SOT and can possibly achieve 11hrs”. Remember, we are talking about a Note 3 stock battery not a custom one. Just imagine what that means; you go to work and come back and you’re still on SOT! I can’t achieve that on an iPad. We’re talking here about a 2017 technology on a 2013 mobile phone device, and the Note 3 was designed with Kitikat 4.2, which is even older.
Granted, you’re a developer or part of the know-how team who can snail tweak the device's software and kernel to achieve a higher SOT, just because you can and you know how. But there is always a price to pay in functionality. I will go even further to say that you do a disservice to the ROM quality and viability by saying that. Even if you achieve that with all those crippling tweaks, most people aren’t ready to use their device as a developer testing machine. Actually, giving them estimates on normal use of 3-4-5 hrs. SOT would be more attuned with reality, and people will not pester your thread with posts asking why they haven’t reached 7-8 hours SOT you bragged about. If they somehow reach a higher SOT on their own, all the praise to the developer. Instead, they have to deal with awful suggestions like “your battery must be dead or something”. Samsung’s best offers never reach more than 5hrs. SOT, if they did, they’d kill the competition. Neither do trimmed down ASOP ROMs.
Finally, I have flashed many ROMS since I got my Note 3, but for this thread let’s keep this discussion limited to Phronesis ROM, Magama NX and AspireTeam since they are the most popular with Note 3 users, and all use Android MM 6.0.1 I’ve used All 3 ROMs above with various kernels and never achieved more than 4 hours with “normal use” (all connections active) 5 hrs. is rare SOT for me even when I use new stock batteries. So, please let us know what is your SOT using what kernel with these ROMS on your Note 3. Do you actually reach 7-8 hrs. SOT? (forget 11. LOL). If you do, tells us how? And please don’t forget to give us some specs about your configuration.
Great @wild wadi
can i suggest something if you do not mind ?
i suggest that users who will post in this thread to start with a report that contains the following :
1 - Device model and Modem & Bootloader.
2 - Kernel and ROM.
3 - A screenshot of the battery usage.
4 - A screenshot of Gsam battery monitor ( App sucker,system,screen)
5 - if you are using Xposed ( mention the modules )
6 - If you are using Lspeed and Kernel auditor ( mention the tweaks )
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
Eleo said:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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My experience is with those 3, they are popular and sufficient to give us some idea. Let's not muddy the water here.
3.5 years old stock battery.
Kernel stock settings.
No Xposed
No Lspeed
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to only one guy !
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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So what is your usage? I shared mine on previous page here. But I dont know your usage. I have wifi/data/location/sync turned on. Bluetooth -> off (i dont have bluetoot device). My apps are present. I use new samsung battery less than a year old. I dont play games. I use quickedit app, mixplorer, mixplorer text editor, apltool x for modding. Youtube, mxplayer for watching video. Samsung music for listening audio (on screen off, not counted in sot value).
Kernel adiutor
1. undervolt (different pvs value device (google to find what it is) will tolerate different values). find your device's sweet spot. I decrease global to -20 mV and 288 to 650mV. I have seen users who got reboots when going below -10mV global and also users with using -50mV global with no issue. Different pvs number different results. Mine was 2 if my mind doesnt fool me.
2. Low memory killer (I adjust higher values so that it doesnt make device slow). It does not affect battery directly.
3. You can change cpu freq but with phantom kernel it is programmed good so I moslty dont even touch it.
Smart Manager:
I advise c5 or s7 sm because it can control apps in background better monitoring ram usage. It is also advised for s4 users since they have 2GB RAM w.r.t. 3 GB RAM of note3 (case for MagMa NX).
Bluelight filter:
Around 20% normal, in dimmer places 50%. At night up to 100%. I edit filter.cfg string for decreasing brightness.
Then check your battery stats to see what is using your battery. I have seen google services and system (adsprcd) using high battery. For google services there are xposed and magisk modules to optimize its used battery. I myself am using button mapper and kill playstore app after openning it (I also disable auto update notifications from playstore -> it updates only when I want). System (adsprcd) was caised by google assistant listening on background. I disabled "ok google" prompt. I use only via long press home button because I dont get hansfree usage at all.
These are wbat I remember from my tweaks and with my usage I get 6-8hrs sot. I hope they are useful
Dont expect getting high sot if you are playing online/heavy games, using media editing stuff (mainly video), bluetooth devices and watching full brightness 1080p youtube videos. But you will see the app usage in gsam battery monitor (stock battery usage will not give you 3rd party app usage info in spite of what is told). Also, we are now optimizing to decrease battery usage by infinity wallpaper on MagMa NX.
APP USAGE is VERY important. That is why when I dont get that info I cannot troubleshoot.
P.S. I use mobile app. "Ignore user" function has not been brought to android
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yes, turned into a bit of a "ding-dong" so I've cleaned some posts.
Please stay on topic, avoid getting "narky" and I also removed a thanks type post... please use thanks button for that
Mike
hytman2002 said:
You 2 need a break! Or at least use ignore list! Ha ha ha !
Let be serious guys 8h SOT hard to get with normal battery and with the apks from theese days. Not many users have skills to set correct kernels. Most of the users like me let say want a normal battery 3 to 5 h top. But when you see some post from guys who get 7-8 h you start thinking how to get that, and from there desaster is comming. What i didnt hear from users is that they never say what apk are using ,when they use wi-fi or data or gps and what tweaks they do to their kernels.
Anyways have a good "fight" on this subject ....
My respect to you 2 guys!
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Yeah thats true. Tweaks from other people using are not the same with other users. App disable, how frequent they have used their phones, on idle or etc. Even they send the screenshot and copied their setup, it depend on how we use our phone. For me SOT screenshot are rubbish. If you all need a good battery life phone, get the exynos version instead(for samsung phone). Theres many comparison talking about sd and exynos on samsung(not gonna explain here). If you got some money just buy the 10K mah zerolemon batteries. Theres too many thread talking about battery, kernels and tweaks, how much more do we need?
Eleo said:
I didnt understand "Phronesis, Magma NX or Aspire ROMs" part on OP and thread title. What about Darklord Reborn, AryaMOD s7edge, AryaMOD n7, Emassry266, Possibe FS and etc? Can it be generalized as "Touchwiz MM port"s? Or you are interested on only those ROMs?
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Kind of agree, except for maybe the aryamod. They're kinda old now, discontinued. Old as in the apps in magma and resis are like a year newer. I personally only use magma and resis anymore, and for the record, I get 24hrs SOT. I just don't unplug it ever.
Good thread. I am getting 3h 40m SoT on average with MagmaNX . N900t. Don't have any social media apps except instagram (which i froze).
I honestly believe this phone on anything more than Lollipop is incapable of getting more than 4hrs SoT with "normal" usage (wifi/mobile on). Even with mid-level power saving. The overwhelming number of people who report their SoT is definitive.
Ive been using roms for different phones for 6 years now. This is one of the few where there's such a disparity between what the developer says what "battery life" is and what the average user is reporting.
Whatever "Android System" and "Kernel" is, they are killing the battery
On Lollipop, I was getting 5.5 SoT. On average. With the same battery / apps / usage.
So I will be going back to stock Lollipop. It's unfortunate.
Magma ux10.
Phantom kernel
Kernel audiutor
Xposed installed
Old battery
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I choose to focused on smoothness and no lags than sot. :silly:
What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
:silly:
zack483 said:
What point to have longer sot if u lower the perfomance to almost like the first galaxy s1 perfomance or a cheap copy smartphone. :laugh:
:silly:
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Couldnt agree more:good::highfive:
Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Labs
Rexor10 said:
RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel
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You may need to READ the THREAD TITLE and OP again. It is not only for TW MM port ROMs, but also for only 3 ROMs, Phronesis, MagMa NX and Aspire ROMs as said here.
Rexor10 said:
Up to five hours SOT on '13 battery! (RR 5.8.5 with stock kernel)
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As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
hytman2002 said:
As @Eleo said only for 3 Roms but your Sot is kinda low i will say on RR Rom .
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I think it's because my battery is kinda worn - it was charged over 4700 (!) times so it may have lower capability... But I'm still satisfied with it! (That doesn't mean I wouldn't order new one soon )
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I didnt like the kernels on magma but I started tweeking the lss kernel because it gave me about those 6hours SOT. Therefore I undervolt like 35-50mV and some more stuff in synapse https://m.imgur.com/a/SHEi7 , but I still could not get those 8h.SOT. I did not play games, but i used for instance facebook/messenger, photos etc. I have my note3 for almost 3 years with the stock battery. I also disabled some unused apps. However, the phone performance like scrolling or moving from app to app was laggy. Honestly, now Im on Ressurection Remix https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-resurrection-remix-n-v5-8-3-vanilla-t3615227 and performance is great, no lags, everything is really smooth on android 7 but i miss the samsung apps and features. On the other hand, the samsung apps are badly optimized, bcs samsung. If i had to compare the samsung vs google original apps, i would say that google apps are better and smoother. But, the RR rom has bad battery life for me and Im thinking of returning to Magma now
Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
Rexo_75 said:
...Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot...
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You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
Rexo_75 said:
Its all strange because when you watch original S8 battery test, the phone doesnt get more than 6-7 hours sot. I think that OEMs are holding all the progress back, bcs we can see that the same hours can be achieved on 4 year older phones. Thats why they dont update the old phones, bcs they just want us to buy their new product each year. They are better in performance, but for normal usage like browsing the internet or calling you dont see that much difference unless you play games. Im not even excited about new phones bcs its all the same with small changes.
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Eleo said:
You are doing a colossal mistake by not comparing the testing conditions. To get any comparable result you should test all those devices on same conditions same environment same reception same usage by yourself. Otherwise you can never compare those results.
I do my all test under nearly identical conditions thus I can compare my old results to my new results and say that "this tweak increases/decreases/doesnt change sot".
I have seen reports for google pixel xl previous year stating that it lasts 4-5 hours sot. I can assure you that under same conditions you cannot even get 3 hours with note 3.
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+1.
Those new phones aren't even debloated as those custom ROMs, most of the services if not all of them are enabled.
Not mentioning their performance compared to note 3.
Related
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
viking37 said:
Hi,
For the battery life it will vary from each users, it depends on your usage and settings (screen brightness, synchro, GPS, etc...), for more details you can take a look here for example: Nexus 5 Battery Results. Some users have 7 hrs screen on time, others 3 hrs (plus the idle time to take in consideration) for example, like I said it depends of your use. If you are a gamer the battery life will not be the same as the user who use its phone only for SMS.
Again you will have different opinions (and people that claims that x rom or x kernel is the best for battery life, you'll have the same number of opinions as there are different roms / kernels and it will not help you more...), for some the battery life is great and for others it's terrible, etc..., I would say the average is a day for about 4 Hrs screen on time with "normal" (or "light" use, I mean not 1 hour of Dead Trigger) use. It will depend of what you will do with your phone?
The battery life is mainly on the user side, it's not x rom or y rom that will give you better or worse battery life (unless a big issue in the rom, but... or sometimes it's the Gapps that drain more than usual it's right). If you have a bad signal or a rogue app that give you a ton of wackelocks so higher battery drain, whatever the rom or the kernel you will use it will be always the same thing.
If you want improve your battery life, know what apps you have, how and what they do in background for example (to avoid wackeloks), you can underclock, etc...
Take a look here also about battery life and kernel: Nexus 5 Battery benchmarks.
And there is already a bunch of threads (and review) about battery life in the Q&A forum...
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Revontheus said:
Hi all I've come to a decision that buying the Nexus 5 is worth it, a perfect collection to my devices
The Snapdragon 800 Quad 2.3 got my attention and its pretty cheap
I would like to ask about the battery life and if there are any custom roms that improve it
Thanks alot
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To add to what they said though, certain Kernels with certain Roms can HELP with battery life but it all boils down to how the user uses it. I can tell you that with my same usage on KitKat and Cyanogenmod 11 (CM11), I get better battery life out of CM11. I recorded about a 4 hour longer battery life on CM11 as opposed to default KitKat that comes on the device.
You should look into CM11, it's a cleaner, more effecient, more customizable version of KitKat.
Hope this helps!
Great job to Viking on explaining battery life/Roms
@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
Revontheus said:
@viking37, I Saw on some reviews on the internet that it comes pre-throttled ( pre underclocked ) is this true
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Underclocked, for the Nexus 5 , I never saw this, have you a link?
All Nexus 5 are clocked at max 2,26 Ghz, nothing less... It seems that there is different variants of the S800 (clocked at 2,4/2,5 Ghz) but the S800 in the Nexus 5 it's 2,26 Ghz (MSM8974AA).
Maybe you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_800?
I have no issues with battery life ... I consistently get 14-20 hours of use with 3-5 hours of screen time or 2-3 hours of screen with 1-2 hours of voice.
Auto brightness, GPS on, nothing special.
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Oh thank goodness, I saw some reviews saying it comes pre-throttled to save battery
Thanks
battery life is terrible but after some modification, it better a lot.
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I get 24 hours and 5 to 6 screen time. Tweaked heavily with battery life in mind.
Its nearly as good as my Moto x.
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Well, Saving your phone's battery without compromising your phone's performance will be a little difficult for everyone. Everyone nowadays prefer phones which can last them for atleast a day. But what if we could extend our phone's battery life to 1.5 days or 2 days without compromising the power of your phone?
Yup. That's possible. I've been experimenting with my Note III SM-N900 [Indian Exynos Model]. I did it for almost like 6 months. My aim was to maximize my phone's battery life. And finally I found it. I wanna share all my results and the secret tips to save that last precious drop of your battery juice!
[NOTE: [Please keep in mind that I own a Exynos Model, i.e, SM-N900 and made all the customization on this model only. Many methods explained herein might not work for you.]]
:victory:
So, first a few words on my phone's history:
When I first got my brave and good looking Note 3, I was on 7th heaven. I got Android 4.3 Jellybean onboard. I used to get 2 days of unparalleled battery life. Smooth UI. But, very few customization. Previously I used to own a Galaxy SII i9100G. It had a great potential and till date is considered as the most selling Galaxy Variant. But, still I was happy. Then came the wave of KitKat 4.4.2. Guys, you won't believe, I spent weeks in the dilemma of the fact - Should I root or not root. Should I first update and then root? Should I root and then update? I was going crazy.
But then I decided. No, I should first update via OTA and then root my phone. And then, I did it. But soon I realised that I did a wrong thing. I experienced very, very poor battery life. With 3G on and screen time of 3-4 hrs, my phone used to die. But then I thoguht, there's still hope. Thus, I spend a lot of days into finding the best customisation for improving the battery life. And after 6 months, now I finally got the best battery life.
Guys, another thing I would like to say here is that, there was a very good article on saving battery life before, made by stanley08. [READ IT HERE].
STEPS TO MAXIMIZE YOUR BATTERY LIFE
1. Kernel Customisations:
Well, as you all know, kernel is the thing that sits between your software and hardware. Doing optimal changes to it is the best way out there to save battery. First of all currently there are two best kernels out there. halaszk and pekaka. Both are absolutely amazing kernels and I found halaszk to offer a greater number of modifications. But for everyday use I use pekaka now. On the top, it doesn't matter that much. So, let's get started.
First of all, halaszk kernel comes with a very powerful tool called synapse. It allows you to individually set the frequencies, voltages, GPU speed etc.
If you wanna use pekaka, then use an app such as Trickster MOD app from PlayStore.
The main part comes now:
1. Reduce all A15 cores to -25 mv each.
2. Reduce all A7 cores to -13.5 mv each.
3. Use 0 as the parameter for Multicore Power Saving
4. Use Interactive or Ondemand governor.
5. Use CPU frequencies upto 1.3 or 1.4 GhZ.
6. Use GPU frequencies upto 340 or equivalent
That's the kernel part.
2. ROM:
Using custom rom might not be that important because almost all roms available now are either stock or MIUI. So, it won't make a difference. Still some roms might be slightly better.
One rom that I found was Alba's Ultralite roms. These roms have been developed by a russian developer. The thing that's really good in these roms is that, the Ultralite series weigh around 600-700 MB and are totally debloated. So, lesser the bloatware, lesser is the memory consumed and hence, lesser is the battery consumed.
Another rom to observe is Dr. Ketan's Rom series. Many users are satisfied with the balance of battery life and lots of customisations.
Some other good roms are Alliance ROM, and Murat ROMS. There might be many more roms with good battery life. Users may leave their comment below and I'll add them.
3. Memory:
Yup, more memory means more battery. Many would disagree with me but, I tried it out and saw amazing results. I would suggest you to use Clean Master to clear cache, memory and check out your phone's temperature.
4. USPM MOD:
Xperiacle, an amazing developer[And my fav!] has developed a module called UPSM mod. Ultra Power Saving Mode, was found in Galaxy S5. He did an amazing job and has developed this module, which allows you to activate UPSM or Emergency Mode. Doing this, will limit you to basic apps such as Phone, Whatssap, etc and will prove immensely helpful for saving battery. This is highly recommended for an y battery savvy. There's also another Xposed module which reduces NLP Kernel wakelocks, thus making your phone sleep better. Download it here.
5. Reception/Signal:
Believe it or not, this is the part that takes away a huge toll on your battery. If you have bad reception, you ought to have a bad battery life. I saw the results myself. On full signal, my phone's battery dropped to around 98% after 6 hrs standby whereas on 1 bar signal, I found my battery to be 82% after 6 hrs standby. this is because, your phone tries to continuously searches for better battery.
6. 3G/ WIFI:
Personally I found 3G to consume much more battery than WiFi. So, it is advisable to keep it turned off while not in use. If you get a simultaneous screen on time and total 3G usage time of 5-6 hrs, you're great! That's the best you can get.
7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool! I mean, always check if any background apps are running continuously.
8. Greenify:
Hey, I am not talking about afforestation or something! I am talking about a wonderful app called Greenify. Now, what it does is, it freezes the background processes and apps [which you select], and thus frees up a lot of memory.
9. Debloat:
Yup, lot's of apps on your phone may slow it down and deteriorate your phone's battery. Try removing apps that you don't use anymore.
Also, another thing I would like to suggest you all, is to keep reflashing your rom every 2 to 3 months. This would ensure less momory clutter and defragmentation. Also, it would keep your phone running smooth. Also, as you might already know, AMOLED displays consume much battery for bright colors and brightness level of the screen. So, it's advisable to use dark wallpapers.
So, guys these were some of the customisations I used to achieve the perfect balance of battery life and performance. If you have any more idea or trick to save battery, do post it below. We'll keep this thread updated.
Thanks! And do share this thread with others.
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UPDATE:13/10/2014
Here are some amazing benchmarks of my friend/contributer @Spitwista
He has also come up with a great way to save battery.
Things to look at
1. 30 Minutes gaming(Real drifting)
2. 30 minutes music (power amp)
3. 7Hrs SOT
4. More than 24Hrs full run time
5. True deep sleep
6. Smooth and 100% stable all around
7. Using Halaszk kernel v20.b2
For now, check out these screenshots:
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Guys, I am currently testing on XXUENI1 the latest firmware. Will soon give the battery statistics.
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Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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Till now, getting really amazing battery on XXUENI1
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Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
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Screenshots or it didn't happen ?
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Will give it soon.
EDIT:
Here are the screen shots. Love this firmware.
Note that I started monitoring from 85% and used mobile data all the time when WiFi wasn't on.
Will soon post a fresh screenshot.
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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Im using MultiX ROM 2.0 with stock kernel. Amazing battery life, about 2 hours screen on time with 69% battery left. Im using greenify
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I believe MultiX is not for SM-N900..... Very less roms for exynos......
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7. Temperature:
Your phone's temperature makes a lot of difference. Many times you might have experienced your phone's temperature shooting up like a volcano! Well it happens when your CPU or GPU is put under a lot of stress. For example while playing a high quality game. Many times it happens when some background app freezes. So, try keeping your phone a bit cool!
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Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
You are too much forcing yourself to lengthen the battery life while limiting yourself from users' accessibility and ease.
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No bro..... not at all.... even I clearly mentioned it in the OP. Read and then speak bro.
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Just a minor thing - It's not the temperature that degrades battery life, but the applications that consume more resources, thereby also more battery and generating heat.
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Maannn..... please read the 7th point carefully. Nowhere did I mention that temperature degrades battery life. Please read things carefully and then say me what's wrong with my post.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Let me tell all my findings from your post. I would like to say my assumtions so all may not be true.
1. You plugged in awhile AC power or USB cable to PC in between your process and thus it stretched out the battery for awhile.
2. You put in Airplane mode at the end and may be it has been since 10% battery life.
3. You increased the screen time while letting minimal CPU and GPU usage just by reading and browsing internet with chrome for a few mins. (May be brightness is set to 0)
4. I didnt see other applications such as facebook,whatsapp and so on ( you may have uninstalled them and even google play services)
For me, i didnt tweak anything about CPU or kernel. I just use official firmware, rooted and greenify only. Whenever i browse internet, i turn on 3G and then back to 2G with background applications such as viber, facebook,wechat with casuality and ease. My battery would last for a day with screen on time around 5 hrs and sometimes more than 5 hrs.
So my conclusion is your post doesn't intend for "Competition of Battery Life on Galaxy Note 3" . It should be a balance between battery life and users' accessibilty without limitations of the activities.
I appreciate your effort for this post but I dont mean to offend. I am sorry about my comment.
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Now here's my clarification:
1. As I already said, I started monitoring from 85% after charging (see the pics)
2. I did put it on airplane mode for 10mins in the end. (Any person with just 2% battery will do)
3. Ya.... 3rd conclusion is true. I did everything ideal battery test guidelines as per GSMARENA. I even played a few games which didn't show up on the battery screen. Also, Whatsapp was on the whole time and my life is unimaginable without it.
4. My screen brightness was at 50% and 3g on for 4-5 hrs. I only use 3G.
Hope that classifies all your doubt. Will very soon post new battery results since the previous one was a bit controversial.
Many members of XDA are currently testing my settings and will soon give me the results. Thank you.
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nice guide. thnaks
BiIIyTheKid said:
nice guide. thnaks
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Thanks bro...... Any suggestions or any more tips?
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Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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Graffiti Exploit said:
Undervolting will make things unstable as I have heard. All I do is debloat and greenify.
That is with Facebook, Instagram on the background.
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See, undervolting my just a few mvs doesn't slow your phone down. That only happens when you under clock way more. By the way your phone seems quite good.
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Guys...... New Scripts, tips and settings are soon coming..... Keep checking.....
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I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me
Mine screem time always exceeds 6.30hrs and i play games
Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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Between 5-6 hrs of screen-on time on all-day wifi, 20-30 mins of 2G calls, an hour of gaming, an hour of YouTube or music, and the rest of the time wasted on social networking & other apps, and in taking a LOT of photos.
There have been days where i've seen 7 hrs of SOT, but that was when the phone wasn't loaded with as many apps as it is now. Now its mostly around 5 hours on moderately heavy usage and just over 6 on days when i only text & browse the web.
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Lol, its like we have identically usuage of phone
ruffain said:
I have never used a 3k mAh battery(phone) before and now that i have i cant really see a big change here are the stats
1. 20% battery after 10 hours.
2. Screen time 5 hours.
3.call time 40 mins
4. I am connected to wifi all day so whenever my screen is on its either i am surfing net or using any other internet apps
5. No game played
These are the status for today (usually same other days too)
If anyone of u can take out some time to reply abt if ur guys are getting the same or almost same charge time or is it only me
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1.5 Days with full charge...
prasad12ka4 said:
1.5 Days with full charge...
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Damn. But what kinda usage
ruffain said:
Damn. But what kinda usage
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Basic usage..
Calls, whats app, mails,....
Managed 7 hours screen on time with moderate usage.
- Mostly browsing on Wi-Fi
- Took over 80 photos
- 50 mins of calls on 2G
- All day Wi-Fi except while sleeping
This is just after the 6.5.5.0 update.
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Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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ruffain said:
stivinnaura said:
Yes i did notice really great difference in the screen time dont know if it was just me it did actually changed after the update
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Stats refer to pic were
1.5 hour youtube
1 hour call
Wifi almost all the time
Screen time was more then 6 hours
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Battery usage- not effective
Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill
I have left this phone on overnight for 7 hours with WiFi and 4G connections, starting with 100% charge. Periodically my phone would have been checking for new podcasts but other than that it wasn't doing anything.
On my Moto G 4G, the battery dropped from 100 to 93%.
On the Mi 4i it only dropped to 97%, which could be the much larger battery, but it might also be the CPU returning quickly to a deep sleep state as it can finish tasks quicker.
In day to day usage I haven't found it hugely better in terms of battery life but I think that's because the screen is a lot larger and also has far more pixels which places a greater requirement on the GPU.
I use the GSam Battery Monitor app and have attached a screenshot from this as well as from the MiUi6/Android graph.
vrtsvas said:
Dear friends,
I hear you all talking about battery usage, and i am wondering if anything is wrong with my phone.... who knows... but i would like to report that, yes , indeed the screen time is reaching the 5 hours but the battery has been reduced from 90% to 15% and only using facebook and videos and the music player!!!! OMG!!!! I Mean OMG!!!
Where did you came up with 5 hours with youtube plus gaming plus facebook plus talking plus plus ????
To my humble belief the battery needs to save more energy. !!!! At the moment i dont have any tool to monitor if all 8 processors are runnning at the same time, but i am pretty sure that they do run together for everything! BUT actually they dont need to run !!! Especially when the phone is used only for facebook webrowsing and all these applications.!!!!!
all cores must be triggered and be fully working when you are using high end graphic games and stuff! Why all this battery is running for such small applications @???@@@@!!!!!?????????
I am not sure if anyone knows any solution on how to deactivate all these cores, but if there is swomebody i would appreciate it if he really did as it is a pitty all this battery to go wasted JUST AND ONLY FOR the purpose of just alll 8 cores running at the same time WITHOUT ANY LOGICAL REASON!!!!
This phone has amazing poetntials!!!! AMAZING POTENTIALS if it to be reprogrammed and debloated by developers such as yourselfs!! If i knew how i would immediatelly start searching for a solution to all these issues!!! There are much more issues than that and for this phone specs the capabilities are being wasted!!! It needs to be debloated and may other things that will enable this phone to become a big GADGET in the market as a low cost and proper phone that it its!
Please for your replies
All the best
Bill
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If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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Hi thanks
ruffain said:
If you have heard of overclocking and underclocking nywas yes u can tweak processor u need to root our phone for that there are lot of apps for that I don't remember the names rights now.
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Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks
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Hi,
Wouldn't it be much more nicer though the fact of developing a new rom that the user will be able to do all these stuff ( i mean overclocking/underclocking, play with colors saturation and setting as well as eliminating all the process that prevent the phone from keeping the battery for 2 days! (that is even with wi fi use!)
Cause if you think about it , we are not far from previous low end generation phone that the used single core and much more less characteristics in order to run the exact same application on the same level, but in a lower graphics environment. Also look at samsung note 4 hibernation mode, that would be a development for this phone as well and keep the phone lasting for 30 days!
From one point of view we are talking with an open world of software, why not having these abilities why do we have to waste drain battery with no reason what so ever. ???
I think you know what short of improvements i am talking about and these would be accompanied perfectly with this phone specs.
what do you think guys?
i want your point of view, maybe i am not saying everything correctly.
Thanks
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Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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Yes that would be nice and I guess ASOP roms have all those features wat you are asking about. A new rom would be nice but miui keeps on fixes minor bugs I don't think mi would provide us that rom in near future and noone really likes to wait so everyone roots their phone and tweaks it xposed framework is one of the best thing after rooting
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i have rooted my mi 4i but i cannot adjust only using two out of the eight cores for everything in order to achieve battery reduction.... there is non such application neither kernel development of any short hat allows you to change the kernel setting to how-many number of cores you would like.
But if you know any other way i would be most happy to hear about it my friend.
@vrtsvas
on what version ROM are you?
hi there
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@vrtsvas
on what version ROM are you?
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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,
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i am on
android version : 5.0.2. lrx22g
miui version 6.5.6.0 (lximicd) stable
why are you asking this though? how does this relates to the core programming and usage, do you know any software to downclock and use only two cores only? that would be the benefit to the story,
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Well coz Dev ROM sucks the battery so I thought that might ur case yes u can under clock the processor and ur devices must be rooted for it since the kernel source is out I guess we shd wait for a new ROM i am sure someone would include that feature in the ROM
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If someone have root can use "Tweaks For Mi 4i . Fast Charge, No Lagging, Fix issues. For Any ROM" thread from en.miui page to get more standby. I used Tweak your cpu. Phone was coller and by night it used about 3%. Now on V7 I'm not sure it works but that ROM got a lot wakelocks from enything. By night it used 5%.
Hey,
so I got a S3 now and I installed what you can see in my Signature.
The thing is with the boeffla-Kernel you can set what your device does when you screen off.
I love that feature, not that I know exactly what it does (yeah im not clever) but I can tell you since I got it I never charged it yet (it got the bigger Samsung battery with 3x00 mah but well),
That are around 2 WEEKS WITH JUST AIRPLANE MODE. 2 MOTHER****ING WEEKS. AND YES WITH GOOGLE APPS. EVERY SINGLE ****ING ONE. AND GAMES. TONS OF GAMES. AND GMAIL AND ANYYYTHING THAT EATS BATTERY.
So, to be more calm again, why is there no one who includes those features in their Kernels for the Nexus 5? Im thinking about selling the Nexus 5 now and buying a S5, because it has boeffla Kernel avaible for it, thats how far this has gone.
Amplify and Greenify and Disable Service and this and that trick. Thats what we know about under our Nexus 5 Forum rock it seems like...
Maybe someone gets active by this and will include those features in his kernel? No, if not I will spend as much months as i have until I go to a higher school to make a kernel that has such features.
If it will take months or a half year, I dont care, but I will get it done. I would call it ElementalX+ (ElementalXX would be silly right ).
Never the less, lets ask the question this thread is created for: Does there exist a Rom or a Kernel with which you can activate a Battery saving function like with the boeffla-Kernel? No?
--Well there is the Android Battery saver function and simular blah blah in rom blah blah. -no, I tried those, im not to stupid for lowering my clocks and display brightness, also that orange is effing ugly.
Oh and I got my S3 overclocked as high as it goes while those 2 weeks by the way and using pegasusq - Speedmod, yes a performance governor, not a battery saving, we dont care about your lag and Antutu governor.
So telling me to lower the ****ing core and make it slower than that S3 won't really help me.
(sorry for the flame, its meant nice )
This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
ashwath230 said:
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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JohnHorus said:
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
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Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
Gopinath15 said:
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
JohnHorus said:
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
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kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
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Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.