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Hey everyone, i just upgraded to a Nexus S 4G this morning from the ol samsung transform, and i was planning on applying cyanogen but then i messed with the phone a bit, did root and restored a couple of my game apps...it seems to work with very nice speed, only serious issues ive noticed are just with the signal, sensitivity of keyboard, and i havnt had time to see battery life yet..
But i was wondering, since the stock rom is so clean and fast, why are we putting on different roms like cyanogen?
More importantly, as far as kernel, whats the best kernel right now for nexus 4g? im running stock kernel, but naturally and ideally id like even more speed(not sure what id use it for, but always nice), better battery life, and better data signals..
ive been reading about overclocked kernels a little bit and such, so basically im wondering about what you guys would say to all this? should i change rom &/Or kernel? to what? why? does overclocking at 1.4ghz like these kernels say have any negative side effects? things like that.
Thanks for your response!
~ Master Ramy
Master Ramy said:
Hey everyone, i just upgraded to a Nexus S 4G this morning from the ol samsung transform, and i was planning on applying cyanogen but then i messed with the phone a bit, did root and restored a couple of my game apps...it seems to work with very nice speed, only serious issues ive noticed are just with the signal, sensitivity of keyboard, and i havnt had time to see battery life yet..
But i was wondering, since the stock rom is so clean and fast, why are we putting on different roms like cyanogen?
More importantly, as far as kernel, whats the best kernel right now for nexus 4g? im running stock kernel, but naturally and ideally id like even more speed(not sure what id use it for, but always nice), better battery life, and better data signals..
ive been reading about overclocked kernels a little bit and such, so basically im wondering about what you guys would say to all this? should i change rom &/Or kernel? to what? why? does overclocking at 1.4ghz like these kernels say have any negative side effects? things like that.
Thanks for your response!
~ Master Ramy
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There are quite a lot of things that can be changed by flashing a custom ROM. Cyanogen is reported to be more responsive than stock android, and a slight improvement on battery life and performance. Also, with other ROMs like MIUI you can completely change the entire GUI basically. The lockscreen becomes changeable by one click in the themes app. I've also noticed a slight improvement in battery life/performance and responsiveness.
Also, with regards to kernels, they add extra features (like voodoo sound, BLN notifications, UV'ing, OC'ing, etc). Now if you're looking to overclock your CPU AND save on battery life then that is probably not going to happen. If you OC the CPU you'll as a result draw more battery power when it reaches it's peak. Hence why I went with the TEUV88 kernel. This kernel undervolts the CPU yet manages to give me the same performance as the stock kernel. It runs extremely nicely and the battery lasts me about 24-30 hours on moderate usage where as before I was getting around 16.
Hope this helps.
Edit:: note that both undervolting and overclocking can be dangerous for any phone. The kernel developers put their kernels through testing though to ensure they are stable enough for most people (I hope anyways). But be aware that it is possible to damage the hardware be either of these methods.
yeah im looking at more undervolting for battery life cause current performance seems great for me as of this point. but i mean cyanogenmod doesnt change much since its built on gingerbread, its just slightly more customized, but on the actual performance side, it is a slight increase? so whats the best kernel for undervolting and still getting stock performance or more? im guessing its the one u just mentioned? cause i saw a voodoo kernel or something on main dev page and itwas undervolted and OCed to 1.4 i think...idk.
Yeah you might be talking about the matr1x kernel. It ocs to 1.44 and is uved also. Plus has voodoo sound, bln and bld. Some people have issues with cm7 and some don't. I really don't like the look of miui so I can't say for it. But I use decks 1.3d with zero issues and matr1x kernel with zero issues along with heavy use 4+ hrs screen time in over 12hrs. Personally running 1.44 your phone will prolly lock up but I run 1.2 non stop no freezes or lockups or reboots. Try them and see qhich ones fit you and what you like.
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I'm still on stock with mine and honestly, I don't need anything else... i get 12-15 hours of moderate use and i don't really know what lag is because i never experience it with my phone.
The above posters are correct in everyway. I mean it definitely comes down to preference. I was averaging about 13-15h on my stock kernel/rom but my phone would be basically completely dead.
I switched to TEUV88-rammstein2 (Trinity Undervolted rom). It has Voodoo sound, BLN (backlight notification), and with todays update it has touchwake mod. So as you can see my phone lasted 15h (still with 35% battery left) with 3h of screen on, and 45m of audio streaming, and lots of texting.
Check out my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17108560&postcount=3154
This is my first Android phone (2nd device overall), I love it, it was my free upgrade option from AT&T, on number 2, the first, I completely bricked trying to upgrade to GB stock..... After I got the taste of flashing ROM's, thanks to TRusselo and his ninja skill, I find myself oriented towards the leaner ones because of memory issues, I run V6 Supercharger , SlimICS :victory:, with JRummy's ROM Toolbox Pro :good: (gotta support the kicka$$ apps), TB, blah blah blah.
My major complaint is that my Cap runs hot, I have OS Monitor on it because I got tired of not knowing the threshold. It bothers me that my phone gets over 110 degrees Fahrenheit , I've even had a brief history of random reboots I attribute to heat when I ran the ICSSGS 4.0.3 ROM (Awesome stuff, but once I bit into Slim, it was over). Is there a way to manage the heat or get a case for the phone that helps to manage the temperature? Or am I S.O.L unless I keep a frozen gel pack nearby?
BTW, first post, I surf the posts often and since I didn't see any questions about overheating for this particular Samsung model thought I'd give this a shot
My gets hot to I think it has to do with the kernel
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Mine runs really hot too, mine gf has a cappy and they run the same everything most of the time, but mine is the only one that gets stupid hot. Would love it to be fixed but I think its probably a manufacturing issue. Problem is it wears on the battery. 10-20 of use and you will burn your ear if you want to talk on the phone . The metal back certainly doesn't help either.
Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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I have the max set at 1Ghz, min 600Mhz, Performance, SIO, I'm sure the fact that the temperature outside being over 100 F doesn't help at al. I have overclocked it before and it started smoldering, not literally, just felt like it.
I've literally taken damp cloth's and set them underneath the phone on occasion to see if that will help, it definitely does, so does setting the gel ice pack under it, so I have found ways around it. I would probably only trade this phone for one of the S3's, but this phone has definitely earned the top place among my favorite devices all time. It's just as tough as a Blackberry, and easier to use than an iPhone.
That's why LOL, 600MHz minimum and 1000MHz max, with performance gov, that keeps it at max clock all the time XD take that off OMG...
b-eock said:
That's why LOL, 600MHz minimum and 1000MHz max, with performance gov, that keeps it at max clock all the time XD take that off OMG...
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I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
takeoutttt said:
Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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I have never knowingly oc my phone, it would get hot on GB even before I rooted and went to cm. 10-20 mins of web browsing brings my temps up to about 41 C (106 f) I am pretty new to this, where to I check my clock settings?
I'm running helly bean nightly s
I have switched batteries with my gf cappy so I'm pretty sure its not a battery issue
Maybe a bad/defective battery is the cause of the problem since there is no overclockin...???
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master2828 said:
I have never knowingly oc my phone, it would get hot on GB even before I rooted and went to cm. 10-20 mins of web browsing brings my temps up to about 41 C (106 f) I am pretty new to this, where to I check my clock settings?
I'm running helly bean nightly s
I have switched batteries with my gf cappy so I'm pretty sure its not a battery issue
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With a metal back of cappy, it will easily heat up because it conducts heat in the metal. Based on my experience it is cause by the user usage depending on how high is the voltage/clock require of each app used to maintain it's smoothness and reached it's maximum clock. You can see your usage at Settings>Battery.
You can use CPU Spy or Voltage Control to see your OC and adjust it. You can check also in Settings> Performance >Processor.
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brttwilliams said:
I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
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Yeah, you'll learn in time, just try to search and read throughout the forums. I suggest that you lower your min to 100/200 and max to 1000/1200,
use smartassv2 and sio governor. This settings saves me some battery and to extent that still smooth, slick and good ui/gaming/app performance.
If you're on DEVIL KERNEL, go to recovery>devil>governor profile> tick SMOOTH.
brttwilliams said:
I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
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Wasn't doggin' you dude, Just letting you know that could be the cause of your problem. Awhile ago I might have flamed you, I have matured and get that not everyone reads (not this situation), and I have to get used to that. People make mistakes, I know I do even if I wanna act like I don't. I am just helping around here now since I have gotten as much knowledge as the some of the users that joined XDA and other hacking forums in the beginning because I was always searching to find out ways to do it on my own, asking for help with stuff that no one talked about. So I am glad that I was able to help you in a way, sorta.
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Wasn't doggin' you dude, Just letting you know that could be the cause of your problem. Awhile ago I might have flamed you, I have matured and get that not everyone reads (not this situation), and I have to get used to that. People make mistakes, I know I do even if I wanna act like I don't. I am just helping around here now since I have gotten as much knowledge as the some of the users that joined XDA and other hacking forums in the beginning because I was always searching to find out ways to do it on my own, asking for help with stuff that no one talked about. So I am glad that I was able to help you in a way, sorta.
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Thank you both, b and takeout.... I know neither of you were doggin me, b-eock. I've been one of the behind the scenes types but I've seen a few of your posts, I know you know what you're talking about, I definitely appreciate the guidance. Truth be told, I know I'm still a nub here, but I know my way well enough, after you break something a few times, its only natural to pick up a few tricks along the way.
Yeah you'll learn something here just have the patience, experiment, test things out yourself to conclude and rather soon it'll be your hobby reading
And also help others out too.
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my gets hot sometimes too. im on helly bean latest 08/08/12 version, also battery gets sucked down quick, barely get 8 hrs and i do virtually nothing. ics cm9 was great on battery.
VashTS said:
my gets hot sometimes too. im on helly bean latest 08/08/12 version, also battery gets sucked down quick, barely get 8 hrs and i do virtually nothing. ics cm9 was great on battery.
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I know my battery is going quick on the SlimBean 2.0 ROM, but the heat issue still happens, I have noticed with my OS monitoring tool that it gets hotter if you have programs running constantly in background using up high CPU %. I was able to isolate a few of the programs as things I could remove, overall it does still run hot, but it's not as bad.
I use the free version of the OS Monitor on Play Store, you can set it to run under root and to autostart when the device is turned on.
Picked up an 1800 mah battery and my batty life is great! Going to bed with 40ish percent left
Haha, well let me know where you snagged that from
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try Smartassv2 gov and change your min from 600 to 100, then note the temps, or run a log of them.
typically my phone runs about 35° C (95° F) and that is with an otterbox commuter case on the phone. When the gps is on in the car, I use a vent mount to keep it at 40° or less, and never have to take the case off.
I read that higher temps, example 45°, really shorten battery life, and you wiil only get 200 charge cycles instead of 500 from the battery.
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Haha, well let me know where you snagged that from
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Amazon, was a great purchase, got an oem battery, there is a huge thread in the accessories section about the 1800 mah epic 4G battery that fits in the cappy
The Problem With The S4 That It Has More Cpu Then It Needs. It Doesnt Have To Use It Cpu Up To 1600 Mhz, But It Automatically Does,
It Works Perfectly At 2 Cores And 800 Mhz, No Difference, Only A Better Experience , Please Read On
Ok Guys, This Will Be The Battery Discussion Page For The S4, We Will Be Doing Kernel And Under Volting Test, And Ways To Save Battery,
We Will Post Battery Records Here, And Many Other Things, This Is How It Works
I Will Post Mine Tomorrow After Fully Charging
Must Be Fully Charged Till 5 Percent Charge Without Pluging In Cable In Between,
And You Must Use Your Device As You Would Everyday
Install Cpu Spy
This Is The Layout You Fill In For Your Post
ROM:
KERNEL:
CPU MIN:
CPU MAX:
CPU GOVERNOR:
CORES ONLINE:
CORES OFFLINE:
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Information Of How You Used Your Phone During The Process
And Any Other Information Like The Apps You Have Installed, And The App You Use To Save Battery With, Or Your
App Alternatives For Better Battery Life
Attach Photos (screenshots) Of Your Battery Record, Stats, And On Screen Time Using The Stock App In The Settings
And Your Cpu Spy Page
"i For One Have 2 Cores Offline And Under Volted To 250-800 On Both Online Cores And Have The Ondemand Governor Activated, And I Havent Felt Performance Lost, Runs Temple Run And Subway Surfers Perfectly, And No Heat, Even If Im Charging With Wifi On And Im Downloading Something, Its Great
Seems to be a nice idea. But could you elaborate as on why the text is bold and you had to use capslock for 1/2 of it!?
@slind ok i fixed the post. i will be posting links to the posts who are great battery savers without loosing performance
So basically, we use an I9500 like an Ace or a Grand to get rid of heating and battery drains.. Andyou suggest that it won't result in performance loss. I'd suggest playing games that are more graphically intensive and not just Temple Run.. Try copying data from one memory card to another, or simply try running a Full HD Video. Also, check out web browsing or maybe multitasking, and you'll see where the performance dies out.
I think the fix should come in the upcoming releases of stock firmware by Samsung. By turning off a couple of cores, you're only going back a couple of years. I don't think I upgraded from the S3 to S4 for that reason.
cabloomi said:
The Problem With The S4 That It Has More Cpu Then It Needs. It Doesnt Have To Use It Cpu Up To 1600 Mhz, But It Automatically Does,
It Works Perfectly At 2 Cores And 800 Mhz, No Difference, Only A Better Experience , Please Read On
Ok Guys, This Will Be The Battery Discussion Page For The S4, We Will Be Doing Kernel And Under Volting Test, And Ways To Save Battery,
We Will Post Battery Records Here, And Many Other Things, This Is How It Works
I Will Post Mine Tomorrow After Fully Charging
Must Be Fully Charged Till 5 Percent Charge Without Pluging In Cable In Between,
And You Must Use Your Device As You Would Everyday
Install Cpu Spy
This Is The Layout You Fill In For Your Post
Information Of How You Used Your Phone During The Process
And Any Other Information Like The Apps You Have Installed, And The App You Use To Save Battery With, Or Your
App Alternatives For Better Battery Life
Attach Photos (screenshots) Of Your Battery Record, Stats, And On Screen Time Using The Stock App In The Settings
And Your Cpu Spy Page
"i For One Have 2 Cores Offline And Under Volted To 250-800 On Both Online Cores And Have The Ondemand Governor Activated, And I Havent Felt Performance Lost, Runs Temple Run And Subway Surfers Perfectly, And No Heat, Even If Im Charging With Wifi On And Im Downloading Something, Its Great
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post some screenshots with your screen time.
@adyscorpius
everyone has there preferences and there needs in a phone. and there own settings. and this is a Battery discussion thread. we will be doing many performance and voltage mods, so everyone could choose the settings that suits them. now please dont post aggressive post like that, im not stupid. i know that my settings are very low.
but for my most played games and most used apps. it doesnt seem to effect my performance, so im comfortable with my settings
i had the phone for 2 weeks, happily showing off battery performance and then i asked myself again, why the heck i bought this phone in the first place? BECAUSE IT HAS REPLACABLE BATTERY!.. LOL.. how silly i am trying to squeeze that little drop of power out of the battery when I can double the battery just by getting another spare.
no need to turn off anything, no need to drop performance or screen brightness.. just pure enjoyment of the full potential without worrying battery problem.. just get a spare.
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@adyscorpius
everyone has there preferences and there needs in a phone. and there own settings. and this is a Battery discussion thread. we will be doing many performance and voltage mods, so everyone could choose the settings that suits them. now please dont post aggressive post like that, im not stupid. i know that my settings are very low.
but for my most played games and most used apps. it doesnt seem to effect my performance, so im comfortable with my settings
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I didn't mean to be aggresive and sorry if you felt like that. All I mean is, there is a limit to which you can undervolt/underclock your phone without losing the functionality or speed. While underclocking to 1.0 ghz or 1.2 ghz sounds kinda normal, going all the way down to 800 Mhz and that too only on two cores is like running Galaxy Ace Dual Core instead. Why would I want to spoil my S4 for it?
That is all that I meant. And the phone is normally shelling out a good day's use in normal usage. Why bother so much about battery really???
My S4 i9505 came with MDE ROM from the factory, apart from doing dirty flashes over dirty flashes, finally someone came up with a recovery which is working. So i've :
1. Formatted system , cache , dalvik
2. Loaded in Djembey's stock slim deodexed ME2 ROM.
3. Using PimpMyROM, did some moderately less aggressive tweaks.
4. Capped the Max frequency at 1674MHz. Interactive gov, Noop sched.
5. Fully charged and unplugged.
6. Fully on 3G . Gmail sync for calendars, contacts, mail, keep, notes. Moderately heavy on Gtalk and Whatsapp. Browsing news and websites.
Observed 4 hours screen time.
Almost 15 hours of total usage + standby (This doesn't mean much, screen time depicts usage time more)
The phone still feels warmer than S2, under operation.
I've yet to try faux kernel yet, but i doubt it would get much better than this. The physical limit i feel is on the CPU, HD AMOLEDs, and the modem itself under normal usage.
Feel free to comment.
Hi,
hope you may be able to help. I have been trying almost everthing to increase the music volume as the s4 does not drive my senheiser headphones as well I would like. Is it possible to increase the gain through a kernel mod somehow?
Wow you're really random. This thread isn't even remotely discussing about the issue you raised.
Try the omega ROM thread, see if the functionality list includes volume hack.
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How does one go about disabling two of the cores ? c:
I'm kind of doing this as a competition per say. I mainly want to see if anyone can beat me.
Rather hard to do so if you do not show your stats silly lol
Working on it
I'm currently working on them because my device hasn't died yet
currently i'm a few hours in and have lost very little i'll get more as time passes on
im at 36hrs with 4 hours SOT
still got 15% to go
GPS location on Battery saving mode but i do turn it off when i dont need it(at work)
Power saving mode turned on over night while im sleepning
this is what i had right before going to school
https://imgur.com/qaTQMEl
my standby is what is so excellent but what killed my battery was kotor i was playing on max settings so that does effect the battery some bit.
How did you get so good battery? I've got a s4..
partly it's due to darthstalker being so efficient. My processor is underclocked and undervolted substantially. To add too that i have a strict greenify, powernap and amplify policy set on my phone. WhiteSRT is doing something else that is working better I don't know what it is but it is working amazingly.
So the best thing to do is reset my phone after a update install greenify together with root and use cpu controller for underclocking my cpu?
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partly it's due to darthstalker being so efficient. My processor is underclocked and undervolted substantially. To add too that i have a strict greenify, powernap and amplify policy set on my phone. WhiteSRT is doing something else that is working better I don't know what it is but it is working amazingly.
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what did you whitelist for powernap? i always get SOD
Here is mine
this helps by a great margin although if you have xposed it furthers greenifys capibilities
i black list the stuff that consumes the most resources like facebook but i still keep things like my email, spotify, and viper whitelisted.
Is it easy to install xposed?
its pretty easy depending on the version of android you are running just look up on google how to install xposed for your particular android version. but before you install be sure to back up your device in twrp
Can you beat this? Skyhigh 2.1 @ 2.3ghz a53 and -50 undervolt rocking the darthstalker v4 rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63750002
as much as i want to i don't think i could but then again i haven't had my note that long and it is hard to get a full days usage at military school but i could look at trying it on saturday this weekend we have almost nothing on our calendar
yes i know my english sucks my primary language is german
This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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JohnHorus said:
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
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Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
Gopinath15 said:
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
JohnHorus said:
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
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kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
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Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.