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[Q] WTF? Access to the notification tray while screen locked?

Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.

teomor said:
Who was the wise guy who thought that the notification tray didn't need to be locked with the rest of the screen?
After the ICS update, it seems that my notification tray is sometimes open when I pull the phone out of my pants' pocket. Since this isn't just a notification tray anymore and one can actually do sensitive actions over there, not to mention accidentally closing important notifications, I would say this is a very bad idea. I couldn't find any option to turn this "feature" off.
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Well you should not have upgrades to ICS then or done the proper research into what was in ICS cause that is part of the 4.0 Android OS now. Me personally I love it.

So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..

teomor said:
So, you are saying there is no way to turn this off? It seems very strange to not have an option for this..
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If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.

GROGG88 said:
If you enable a screen lock then it will disable that function. Otherwise, it's actually a nice feature to have IMO.
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+1 it is really nice, I can't go back to gb because of and I won't put pattern on for the same reason
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Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?

teomor said:
Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, shockingly not
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teomor said:
Great, a lockscreen that isn't locked
So you guys really never had any accidental stuff happen to you while your phone in the pants?
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No, not once. It's in my pocket all day and I have a very active job...

OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?

teomor said:
OK, so I set up a pattern now and the issue is solved. But now I have 2 lockscreens instead of 1 :-( . Wasn't there supposed to be an option to unlock the screen straight to desktop (pattern in my case)?
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Nope. You don't have two lockscreens, you have a lockscreen and a security screen. It's performing normally.

I know there is nothing actually wrong with this, but it just makes the phone harder to use. I mean slower to make a quick phone call, or quickly open an IM app and reply.

usually..
usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function

chineseromeo said:
usually you can disable it, if you have the development function on your htc settings for ics, usually there is a function in the lockscreen part where it asks you to keep taskbar on top or untouchable after lockscreen is on.. try to look on accessibility and security or else download 'rom toolbox' and there should be a function where it allows u to enable or disable this function
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Um... besides, you can't "do" anything with it unless you touch the screen. Are you touching the screen while the phone is in your pocket?
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I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...

teomor said:
I keep my phone with the screen facing my leg and when there's moisture in my pocket, like in the summer for instance, I'm pretty sure things are happening that aren't supposed to happen
Also, the power button is somehow positioned that sitting down in the car for example accidentally pushes on it.
You could argue that only tight pants cause this issue, but c'moon
I've had several occasions where I would take out the phone from my pocket and find some app being open and doing stuff...
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Buy an Incipio NGP case, which has a reinforced power button cover.
Never again will you have accidental power-button presses.
It's silly that you want to get rid of such a great feature. My phone always faces my leg in my pocket, and in the 10 months that I've owned my phone, I have NEVER pulled my phone out with the phone unlocked by my pocket.

Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....

teomor said:
Thinking more and more about it, it does seem to be a nice feature. I might give it a second chance, despite that only having it for 1 day and already found it open by mistake....
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Try facing it the other way in your pants
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I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.

teomor said:
I've thought about that but the shape doesn't help at all... Also, the power button would be even more prone to accidental press.
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Do you use a case?

Multitouch not working

Not more than 2 fingers are being recognised by my sprint note 5, any help?

philemonjo said:
Not more than 2 fingers are being recognised by my sprint note 5, any help?
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So out of curiosity. First things first
Do u have a case on it and tried with it off?
Do you have a case with a plastic screen protec and or a temp glass. Try removing those some thicker temp glass interferes with operation.
Third. Have u dropped your device?
4th. Are you rooted and made any mods to the system. If no to the cases and glasses and yes to rooting. Try reflashing stock firmware. And then try.
If not rooted and or dropped. Sounds like internal malfuntion. Nothing here will fix that.
U might try looking for a touch sensativity or accsesibility setting or something allong those lines.
What firmware custom roms anything like that?

TheMadScientist420 said:
So out of curiosity. First things first
Do u have a case on it and tried with it off?
Do you have a case with a plastic screen protec and or a temp glass. Try removing those some thicker temp glass interferes with operation.
Third. Have u dropped your device?
4th. Are you rooted and made any mods to the system. If no to the cases and glasses and yes to rooting. Try reflashing stock firmware. And then try.
If not rooted and or dropped. Sounds like internal malfuntion. Nothing here will fix that.
U might try looking for a touch sensativity or accsesibility setting or something allong those lines.
What firmware custom roms anything like that?
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Well i do have a case, i removed it to check but it still didn't work. I reverted back to stock unrooted. I did drop it and cracked the glass. I had the glass replaced but i didnt noticed the fault until recently. My theory is that as it fell, the connectors on the digitizer came loose.

philemonjo said:
Well i do have a case, i removed it to check but it still didn't work. I reverted back to stock unrooted. I did drop it and cracked the glass. I had the glass replaced but i didnt noticed the fault until recently. My theory is that as it fell, the connectors on the digitizer came loose.
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That is a possibility. I did some work on mine and didnt get the usb home and touch buttons plugged in all the way. The light doesnt work on my recents key and randomly went nuts til i checked it and it was barely plugged in. Just enough to work.

TheMadScientist420 said:
That is a possibility. I did some work on mine and didnt get the usb home and touch buttons plugged in all the way. The light doesnt work on my recents key and randomly went nuts til i checked it and it was barely plugged in. Just enough to work.
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Then ill have the phone checked out. I really dont believe the digitizer is damaged. The fact that only 2 fingers register may really be because of the connector. Thanks for the help

philemonjo said:
Not more than 2 fingers are being recognised by my sprint note 5, any help?
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did u use one of the multi touch detection apps ?

TheMadScientist420 said:
did u use one of the multi touch detection apps ?
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Yes. I did use a couple of multitouch detection apps. I also used the show pointer location in the developer settings. Only registers a maximum of 2 fingers

philemonjo said:
Yes. I did use a couple of multitouch detection apps. I also used the show pointer location in the developer settings. Only registers a maximum of 2 fingers
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Ok figured id ask just to be sure

Mate 9 Calibration

Has an had any issues with screen calibration? Sometimes when I click on the screen it presses to the left of it. When I'm in the recents screen for my apps, it sometimes swipes away instead of selecting it, and I'm unable to consistently unlock the phone while it is charging. (Works like once in every 5 times) however, I'm on sure if that one is related.
Anyone have any ideas?

Which firmware are you on? I remember older firmwares were having a bit of a touch sensitivity isues.

Sammath said:
Which firmware are you on? I remember older firmwares were having a bit of a touch sensitivity isues.
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I'm on MHA-L29C567B183. US version of the phone. Stock

Did you install a screen protector? Could be the reason for sensitivity issues. If not, I don't know. Maybe a factory reset Will help?

Sammath said:
Did you install a screen protector? Could be the reason for sensitivity issues. If not, I don't know. Maybe a factory reset Will help?
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I removed the screen protector when I purchased it. I could do a factoru reset and see how it goes. Hopefully it's software related and not hardware related.

I do hope so as well then. I do have to say that the factory installed screen protector doesn't do this screen justice.

Sammath said:
I do hope so as well then. I do have to say that the factory installed screen protector doesn't do this screen justice.
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I thought it was for protecting it in the box?
Mine had a lot of air bubbles in it so removed it right away.
My charger still has the plastic on it though xD

ante0 said:
I thought it was for protecting it in the box?
Mine had a lot of air bubbles in it so removed it right away.
My charger still has the plastic on it though xD
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Lol, no, this phone comes with a screen protector pre installed .

The touch sensitity is definitely off a little. I have to swipe the notification bar sometimes twice for it to come down. I also get some missed taps but it's infrequent enough that it isn't a problem for me. I heard they started fixing touch latency and optimization in 5.1. Don't know if we will ever see it.

If you are not using the stock charger weird things can happen.

Alrighty update: Factory settings still yields the same results. It's not frequent enough to make me go crazy, but it's still roughly the same. I guess my real pet peeve is when I need to go to the app manager to return to an open app and it just closes out. I've lost a lot of information that way like recipes when cooking and etc.
What I really don't understand is the fingerprint sensor not working while it's charging. It doesn't matter what charger I use. It just doesn't respond most of the time (Sometimes it unlocks like it's suppose to)

Im using Quick Charger from SS and I have this problem too. It's nice to know this is a common issue, not only me. I dont have any issues with fingerprint when charging, just notice when the battery between 5-60% it's insensitive for me (maybe quick charge is working strongly in this range), "insensitive" here means when you press and hold any things on the screen, it'll "tap" it and open it instead, all pressing or sliding or zooming actions are normal, just dragging has issue. When the battery is 70% and above, it becomes normal and no more insensitive touch. Just that so I think I can bear this thing.

Audible sound from camera module when locking and unlocking the device, anyone else?

The camera doesnt move but I can feel mechanical movement when I open and lock the phone. Anyone else experiencing this?

No sound or movement here when unlocking.
Do you have face unlock enabled somewhere? It might be preparing the camera to move for face unlock or something like that.

Species 5618 said:
No sound or movement here when unlocking.
Do you have face unlock enabled somewhere? It might be preparing the camera to move for face unlock or something like that.
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No I don't have it enabled and never have, there isnt any abnormal apps with access to the camera either..

Maybe the mechanism locks down a little tighter when the screen is locked seeing that it will not be used while the screen is off? Then, when you unlock the phone and the screen is turned on the mechanism gets ready for any movement that is needed by the end user?
I cannot wait until far more people have this in hand so that all these various questions can be addressed.

jaseman said:
Maybe the mechanism locks down a little tighter when the screen is locked seeing that it will not be used while the screen is off? Then, when you unlock the phone and the screen is turned on the mechanism gets ready for any movement that is needed by the end user?
I cannot wait until far more people have this in hand so that all these various questions can be addressed.
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I actually tested this and think it might be correct. I forcefully flipped the camera up a bit when the phone was off, if you try to put it back into place the camera module will be in a pretty "loose" position. When locking/unlocking the phone it goes back to the firm "locked" position.

jaseman said:
Maybe the mechanism locks down a little tighter when the screen is locked seeing that it will not be used while the screen is off? Then, when you unlock the phone and the screen is turned on the mechanism gets ready for any movement that is needed by the end user?
I cannot wait until far more people have this in hand so that all these various questions can be addressed.
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Yes, I think so too
When locking screen I can hear the motor giving one faint "click" as if it is "locking" in place. Seeing as it is a free-angle motor I guess they need to "lock it" somehow , as Ive actually tried holding it by the camera module and "flipping the phone" around - which actually works.. although not sure if that's recommended to do

Hi, i experience the same thing: there is a faint noise when locking and unlocking the phone screen. I guess this is normal, i have to put my ear near it to hear it.
When i received and unboxed it, the camera was loose. It was flipping freely. It was only when i did the setup it locked into place.

yes, i have a quietly sound, too. seems to be normal.

leiros said:
The camera doesnt move but I can feel mechanical movement when I open and lock the phone. Anyone else experiencing this?
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I think It's a new function from the last update to ensure the camera is closed(locked) when you shut your phone after using the camera

Camera not rotating view and motor stuck half way

Hi there!
Since ASUS isn't responding to my question, I might as well try here.
My brand new ZS630KL which I've had for almost a week now acted strange at some time during the first 24 hours of use.
When I try the ASUS camera app, loading the camera takes way longer than it did the first few hours, and when changing from back mode to front mode, I see myself up side down. Also there's a message on the bottom of the screen telling me the camera can't turn (flip) the image.
The camera module doesn't return to normal position if I try to drop the phone controlled (like you see every other tester on YouTube does it), but it did so the first few hours.
If I try to go back from front view to back view again in the app the camera stops mid-way, just below 90 degrees, and if I exit the camera app from there, the module tries to move back to normal position, but tries to go further than it should and you can hear the screams from the gears as they skip and skip and skip...
I do think this has to do with the gyroscope in either the phone or the one in the camera module itself, and have asked ASUS if there is some way to check if the gyroscopes are working or atleast try to re-push the firmware onto the camera module.
Using other camera apps like Snapchat or Facebooks camera functions work like it should, even though they all show the same system message telling the image can't be turned, their software flips it either way, and also their preview from the camera opens instantly like it should.
Anyone that has any idea what this could be are more than welcome to reply. Using it as my phone at work, so resetting the phone is an option if that could recalibrate the sensors, but I see that as a last resort kind of thing since the phone is brand spanking new.
Thank you.

Ouch.... does not sound good at all! I would return it as fast as I could and either risk getting a NEW replacement, or get my money back.

seems faulty piece, return it

Thank you both for your reply. I've contacted the webstore where I bought it and explained it to them.
Thing is that they've out of stock and doesn't get new shipment until 17th of July, so I have to wait a while either way. Sending it in for repair is out of the picture since it started acting like this shortly after first usage.
Ideally I would like a new unit, transfer everything from this phone to the new and then return the first phone. Transferring data from one phone to anther and then back to a new ZF6 again seems like such a hassle.

I understand your hesitation, but in case you are in Europe, I truly suggest that you send in the phone now before the shop gives you some trouble. You will have 14 days to return it without giving reasons.

abprie said:
I understand your hesitation, but in case you are in Europe, I truly suggest that you send in the phone now before the shop gives you some trouble. You will have 14 days to return it without giving reasons.
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Sure, I do get that. I'll see what the store says. They have to replace it anyhow, so question is how if they are out of stock.. ?

I'm experiencing the exact same behaviour with the flip camera as described in OP.
 @Bjarte, did you ever resolve the issue or did you have the phone replaced?

Djezpur said:
@Bjarte, did you ever resolve the issue or did you have the phone replaced?
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I got it replaced. When ever this happens on the replacement it always works to just tap the flip button twice like Asus intended. Normally it's just the software that gets confused, especially when you switch from the stock camera and 3rd party apps it seems. But I can live with that.
The problem like I had on my first device was that the normal "fix" never worked.

Then I'm afraid I should need a replacement too, because tapping the flip button does not work for me at all.

Get your money back and stay away from this piece of ****!
I have never seen a phone with so many problems before people can even really get it in their hands.
It's up to you.

Issue caused by cover case
Turns out my third party cover case is blocking the proximity sensor, causing the retraction of the camera to malfunction.
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discuss...-message-is-shown-camera-cannot-flip-pls-help
Several cases concerning this have been resolved due to the root cause being that a cover used was covering the proximity sensor located in the front. Even a slight cover of that sensor may cause this - as it is intentional design that when the proximity is being covered the camera should stop its rotation.
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Does not explain though why the double tap does not work, but I'm glad that I do not have to go through the hassle of sending the phone back.

Djezpur said:
Does not explain though why the double tap does not work
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Do you have enabled this feature in the Settings?

_jis_ said:
Do you have enabled this feature in the Settings?
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Yes, the 'Knock twice to retract camera' setting is enabled.

Djezpur said:
Yes, the 'Knock twice to retract camera' setting is enabled.
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When you flip camera and then block it by for example finger or toothpick to fully retract it, does it react on knock twice then?

Nope.

wow i am so a happy i decided not to go for this phone. OPPO all the way.

Djezpur said:
Turns out my third party cover case is blocking the proximity sensor, causing the retraction of the camera to malfunction.
https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discuss...-message-is-shown-camera-cannot-flip-pls-help
Does not explain though why the double tap does not work, but I'm glad that I do not have to go through the hassle of sending the phone back.
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What case do you have?
Sent from my ASUS_I01WD using XDA Labs

This one messes with my proximity sensor: CRESEE
This one works fine: Bernie
So it's a case by case matter

mkermali99 said:
wow i am so a happy i decided not to go for this phone. OPPO all the way.
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Well, I'm a happy Zenfone 6's user.

aleksander002 said:
Well, I'm a happy Zenfone 6's user.
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Just wait.. If there's a problem Asus will fob you off