Are your Note Pro's yellows green? Is mine defective? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I've been an original Note 10.1 user for 18 months an upgrade to a Note Pro on a great deal. It arrived this morning and at first everything was wonderful, but the moment I fired up Sketchbook Pro, the yellows looked dull and greenish. A large stroke of pure yellow painted some seemingly olive green colour. It's not really suitable for art. Video and photo's tend to look okay though (possibly even better colour balanced that other devices I have), so it's hard to pin down. It also happens in other applications - the colour picker in SNote has a really sad, depressed yellow. I've taken a few photos alongside other displays but depressingly they capture a pure yellow which is very odd.
Googling around, the Lenovo Yoga 2 uses the same screen and has users grumbling about the yellows, and a BIOS update has improved things but not fixed them, suggesting the RGBW Pentile display is just incapable of accurately displaying true yellows. If that's the case though, why wasn't this brought up in the many glowing reviews of the Note Pro?
The best way to ascertain whether mine's a defective/improperly calibrated unit or not seems to be to ask other owners, hence my enrolling here. If you paint some pure yellow in Sketchbook Pro, does it look yellow? Does it pop like a ripe lemon or banana, or look somewhat sickly and off? Is the Note Pro just incapable of rendering such colours?
As an aside, why aren't colour calibration options included on devices like they are on TVs?? Seems an easy way to allow users to tailor their colour preferences. Edit: Huh. Samsung does provide Screen Modes for their tablets, just not those from Hong Kong!

Turns out the Hong Kong model doesn't have Screen Mode settings according to the manual. US and EU does, but not Hong Kong. Why?! So I'm guessing that this model is limited to 'movie mode' colours or something. If you vote above, please mention which region your Note Pro is from (and better yet, if changing the Screen Mode changes the colour rendering).

Have you found out anything else? I've the same problem (I've already voted).
I'm questioning myself if I should send it for RMA or not, since I live in Argentina.

Hey guys. I noticed that whenever I pull down my notification / settings bar the yellows displayed on background stuff looks normal. This is kind of an annoying find, as it shows that the note pro is capable of correct colors

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Galaxy S4 Adobe RGB mode, any real merit?

http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-goes-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-black-mist-hands-on-video/
This hands on from GSMArena shows an Adobe RGB mode in the screen mode settings. It seems to have taken the place of the "natural" mode in the GS3 and Note 2. My question is, do you think it will be drastically better than the old natural mode?
I've owned the GS3 and now am rocking a Note 2. Switching to natural mode turns everything lackluster, grainy, and dingy looking. It almost feels like its turning off some subpixels. The contrast goes down and whites look even grayer. I've tried using it a few times, but always get really annoyed and switched back to standard. It's suppose to bridge the gap and be more pleasant like the natural colors of an LCD, but all it does is make the screen look defective to me.
One of the biggest problems with AMOLED is that when you turn up the brightness, the colors also change. It's consistently saturated, but not consistently of the same color. Greens always make me barf, and there are so many kinds of green. The weather widget and Lord of the Rings trailers are good examples. Do you think the Galaxy S4 has improved on color consistency over varying brightness settings?
I cannot tell much from the GSMArena video nor have I seen the phone in person. But I would like to hear your thoughts if you think the S4 screen color fidelity has improved much from its previous iteration, with or without the new Adobe RGB screen mode. Or if you could link to sites that have examined this in detail with actual units. The more generic reviews like to absentmindedly say the "natural" mode fixes the color issues with Samsung's panels, but that has not been the case for me, and am hoping the Adobe RGB mode and Samsung's new 1080p panel might not be just the same old same old.
katamari201 said:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/here-goes-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-black-mist-hands-on-video/
This hands on from GSMArena shows an Adobe RGB mode in the screen mode settings. It seems to have taken the place of the "natural" mode in the GS3 and Note 2. My question is, do you think it will be drastically better than the old natural mode?
I've owned the GS3 and now am rocking a Note 2. Switching to natural mode turns everything lackluster, grainy, and dingy looking. It almost feels like its turning off some subpixels. The contrast goes down and whites look even grayer. I've tried using it a few times, but always get really annoyed and switched back to standard. It's suppose to bridge the gap and be more pleasant like the natural colors of an LCD, but all it does is make the screen look defective to me.
One of the biggest problems with AMOLED is that when you turn up the brightness, the colors also change. It's consistently saturated, but not consistently of the same color. Greens always make me barf, and there are so many kinds of green. The weather widget and Lord of the Rings trailers are good examples. Do you think the Galaxy S4 has improved on color consistency over varying brightness settings?
I cannot tell much from the GSMArena video nor have I seen the phone in person. But I would like to hear your thoughts if you think the S4 screen color fidelity has improved much from its previous iteration, with or without the new Adobe RGB screen mode. Or if you could link to sites that have examined this in detail with actual units. The more generic reviews like to absentmindedly say the "natural" mode fixes the color issues with Samsung's panels, but that has not been the case for me, and am hoping the Adobe RGB mode and Samsung's new 1080p panel might not be just the same old same old.
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Spoke with someone today who had some hands-on, he's a guy who really obsesses over colour temperature too (like me), he said it wasn't quite as good as the Perseus kernel master settings for screen calibration, but did make a very noticeable difference for the better. Incidentally, it you're with a Note 2 you should try Perseus out. I would not be without its colour tuning now (just give yourself a while to adjust, its such a big change from the Samsung colour calibration that it takes some getting used to).
Galaxy S4 also have 4 manual mode to switch on and 7 automatic modes .....

[Q] yellow/orange color problem

Hi
I have exactly the same problem as described in this Note 10.1(2014) post:
"Hi there,
not sure if it is the same thing. No matter what [Display/screen] mode I choose, yellow comes out quite muddy and dirty, I am not able to get a clear, nice yellow out of the screen, always turns out like brownish. Is this common? I had read about "accurate colors" which isn't the case with my unit. Other colors seem more natural to me...
Thanks in advance
Froschfinger"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500508&page=2
On my screen, all other colors than yellow/orange look great....
But the difference in yellow/orange - when compared with a Galaxy s4 or iPad - is clearly visible. Have a look at a Shell, Tide or DHL logo or compare with the yellow in the chrome logo.
Does anyone experience the same issue?
yellow/orange color problem example picture
Here is an example of the different yellow colors between Note Pro 12.2, Galaxy S4 and iPad2 in a picture (out of camera).
Similar case to the lenovo Yoga 2 Pro "yellow correction"?
I hope it's not similar to the Lenovo "yellow correction" problem. The display of the yoga 2 Pro has similar technology as the Note Pro and many Lenovo users reported the "yellow" problem (a 116 pages thread in their support forum...):
"“The Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro utilizes a Samsung LCD panel with a Pentile Red-Green-Blue-White (RGBW) pixel matrix, as opposed to a standard Red-Green-Blue (RGB) matrix on more conventional LCD panels.”
=> look for "Yoga 2 Pro 13 Yellow Color Issues" at the lenovo forums,
the pictures in the first post are very similar to mine...
The good news: It seems that a BIOS Update by Lenovo helped to solve the problem there.
I just found this issue.
In my opinion, samsung put the CMYK filter in the display software . this make bright yellow in RGB turn into "process yellow" in CMYK (make the yellow is more brown.) which is more accurate for printing .
but on the LCD screen like computor and other mobilephone, it look dull and too dark.:crying:
Might be something wrong with yours. Yellow seems ok on mine. Sm-p900 vs Nexus 10
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Versus Note 3...
pink color problem
drarich said:
Hi
I have exactly the same problem as described in this Note 10.1(2014) post:
"Hi there,
not sure if it is the same thing. No matter what [Display/screen] mode I choose, yellow comes out quite muddy and dirty, I am not able to get a clear, nice yellow out of the screen, always turns out like brownish. Is this common? I had read about "accurate colors" which isn't the case with my unit. Other colors seem more natural to me...
Thanks in advance
Froschfinger"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500508&page=2
On my screen, all other colors than yellow/orange look great....
But the difference in yellow/orange - when compared with a Galaxy s4 or iPad - is clearly visible. Have a look at a Shell, Tide or DHL logo or compare with the yellow in the chrome logo.
Does anyone experience the same issue?
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i have another color issue but with pink color i have patches of pink color in the bottom of the screen?
Evidently. The NotePro has an LCD screen, and the S4/S5/Note 3 are AMOLED.
You can't expect the two to look alike.
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Hey guys. Sorry for my english. Have you found anything else? I'm having the same problem here. Some sort of greenish yellow, but no problems with any other color.
Have you returned your tablet for RMA?
Thanks!
Hey guys. I noticed that whenever I pull down my notification / settings bar the yellows displayed on background stuff looks normal. This is kind of an annoying find, as it shows that the note pro is capable of correct colors
Same problem. Is there a solution?
I know that its a old thread, but is there a solution to that problem?
yellow on the Note Pro 12.2 looks more like mustard.
Yonany said:
I know that its a old thread, but is there a solution to that problem?
yellow on the Note Pro 12.2 looks more like mustard.
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Don't compare an LCD display to a LED display, especially an AMOLED or a Retina display.
The color gamut in an AMOLED display is 4 times that of an LCD display. That means an AMOLED display can display 4 times more vibrant colours than an LCD display.
An LCD panel will never display the same level of colour vibrancy as a LED panel. Which is why LED panels are so much more expensive. (A NotePro with an AMOLED display would've cost over 2000 quid.)
There's no solution because there is no problem. It's just how an LCD displays yellow.
Using a colour correction app won't work, because you can't increase the vibrancy.

Confusion about display quality

Hello, I keep hearing people saying that the screen of the Note PRO 12.2 is very nice. Is it only for viewing photos and watching movie? I tried a Note PRO 12.2 in another store. Again, they did not allow me to connect it to the internet. From Magazine MX, regardless of font size, I can see letters and numbers made of large pixels and the edges are not smooth. Is this a rendering problem or the dpi problem? Can this be fixed without rooting? Does this issue show up when I view pdf documents? As they did not allow people to connect to the internet, I could not test. Thanks.
hajime_android said:
Hello, I keep hearing people saying that the screen of the Note PRO 12.2 is very nice. Is it only for viewing photos and watching movie? I tried a Note PRO 12.2 in another store. Again, they did not allow me to connect it to the internet. From Magazine MX, regardless of font size, I can see letters and numbers made of large pixels and the edges are not smooth. Is this a rendering problem or the dpi problem? Can this be fixed without rooting? Does this issue show up when I view pdf documents? As they did not allow people to connect to the internet, I could not test. Thanks.
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At what is considered a normal viewing distance no pixels should be visible. The screen displays at a true 2560x1600 resolution. If you were seeing jagged "large" pixels you are probably too close to the device. There are only one real occasion you should see pixels (possibly). This is when either viewing colored say blue text against a fully saturated solid colored background (HIGHLY UNCOMMON). Black and white text will render 100% perfectly and any full color images will also render perfectly. Understand the reccomended viewing distance for a screen this size is close to 18-24 inches
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Thanks. I saw the large pixels under magazine MX. I could not test other applications. On both devices (from different stores), as soon as Handcom Office was launched, the app got terminated automatically. Couldn't test browser nor pdf as the stores did not allow wifi connections. The most obvious are the large numbers that made up the clock (white numbers with blue background). I could see the large pixels even at an arm's distance. I don't remember exactly but I think I also saw large pixels on letters that made up the calendar under Magazine MX (white numbers in green background). As I flipped to other pages, I also saw large pixels.
It's definately not that bad. If you look for it you can see pentile artifacts but text is plenty sharp and I'd much rather have this display than my wife's iPad 2 for example. Sure a retina display on an iPad 3/Air is great too but this Note Pro screen is plenty good enough for me.
I give you credit for your fortitude man, in the few months you've been trying to decide I've purchased one, lost it in an act of utter stupidity and then purchased another LOL.
I still cannot buy the LTE version in my city. I will travel at the end of next week. I am going to make the purchase. I have to choose between the LTE version of NOTE PRO 12.2 and the LTE version of 10.1 2014.
muzzy996 said:
It's definately not that bad. If you look for it you can see pentile artifacts but text is plenty sharp and I'd much rather have this display than my wife's iPad 2 for example. Sure a retina display on an iPad 3/Air is great too but this Note Pro screen is plenty good enough for me.
I give you credit for your fortitude man, in the few months you've been trying to decide I've purchased one, lost it in an act of utter stupidity and then purchased another LOL.
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If its about black and white text it should be amazing. Pentile only requires 2 subpixels to make a black line. Rgb takes 3. So the pentile actually will produce more lines at the same resolution. And for black and white text reproduction is 100% flawless. Text should be much better on the note is what im sayin. Well nearly identical considering lower dpi.
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No complaints on the screen here, I also have the Note 10.1 2014.
The screen is great at normal using distance. People who hold the screen to their nose complain. It's got a lot more pixels than my 27" desktop monitors that's for sure.

Mediapad M5 10 v Samsung Tab S3

Hi Folks,
Long time samsung user here. Looking at switching my s3 to the Mediapad m5 10. Has anyone done the same thing and if so how did you find it?
I think the Tab S4 is a stupid price so won't be buying one, but the M5 looks a good upgrade.
I've flicked through a few posts and generally you all look as happy as a pig in ....!
bonerp said:
Hi Folks,
Long time samsung user here. Looking at switching my s3 to the Mediapad m5 10. Has anyone done the same thing and if so how did you find it?
I think the Tab S4 is a stupid price so won't be buying one, but the M5 looks a good upgrade.
I've flicked through a few posts and generally you all look as happy as a pig in ....!
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Just did this. Not a fan of EMUI, so the first thing to do was unlock the bootloader, flash OpenKirin RR, root, disable SIM card settings (I bought the WiFi CMR-W09) and so far loving it. The wife also likes it so I'll be replacing her Tab S2 with a MediaPad 8.4 and give it the same treatment.
Thanks I picked one up from argos and loving it. The size is nicer / bigger than the s3 and I'm loving the sensitivity of the screen and keyboard.
Going to install nova launcher!
Colours aren't as bright or vivid as Samsung.
Downloading and installing seems slow but in use its wonderful.
Never had the S3 or S4, but I've had Samsung phones with (SuperAM)OLED displays and several Oneplus with OLED too. Being spoiled with those displays the Huawei isn't really very good. Oversaturated, greenish/blueish with bright colors that pierce my eyeballs out. I have 2 Huawei's actually, and both screens are totally different in terms of screen calibration. One one, I had to take 10% green out and 5% blue to make it look closer to the other one (now grey looks off compared to the other one but colors and warmth are somewhat similar).
Other than that the tab is nice, fast and simply works good. I don't like the position of the volume keys (at the bottom in portrait mode). In landscape, the position is better.
I've unlocked and rooted it, which allows you to melt the bloat and install your own launcher and favorite apps. I've got Resurrection Remix on both of them now though, but yesterday I got the keyboard cover and that doesn't seem to work right with RR, so Im reverting to stock to see if the keyboard actually works better.
Games work good, Fortnite doesn't work but Steam streaming from a PC works very well! I don't have a controller so I can't comment on that.
I switched from S3 to M5 Pro.
Some features are missing, like writing when screen off or the s-pen menu (which I am still searching a replacement for)
The Price tag is what drove me to Huawei, the Customer Service is what will one day take me away from it, I suppose ...
I am mainly using it in landscape mode, so I really like the positioning of the buttons etc. The speakers are great, however, the display is not as bright as Samsung's ...
but M5 Pro > S3 Tab
I'd say overall, compared to S4 (which is slightly better in some domains), the M5 Pro and the S4 are equal!
yes just to provide an update I agree the screen on the M5 just isn't there alongside the very bright and colourful Samsung devices. First use it looked very dull indeed but I've adjusted.
Happy with performance and battery life is good.
I'm not sure wifi is as fast.
Kirin 960 is on par of sd 835, so you get a better device in every aspect but the display, miles better on s3 or s4, 8,4" has 680:1 contrast ratio, very poor, but like one said before, you get used to it, is not a bad screen, btw 10,8" has a 1500:1 medium to high end lcd screen
I haven't used or even seen the S3, but nobody makes displays sexier than Samsung does.
That said, I really like the display on the M5 - it is not only decent quality but it is easy on the eyes (especially with eye comfort turned on).
I've made the jump from the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition to the M5 10.8 Wi-Fi.
Got it over Thanksgiving for $329. Thought that was a great price.
So far really enjoying it.
MPlummer88 said:
Just did this. Not a fan of EMUI, so the first thing to do was unlock the bootloader, flash OpenKirin RR, root, disable SIM card settings (I bought the WiFi CMR-W09) and so far loving it. The wife also likes it so I'll be replacing her Tab S2 with a MediaPad 8.4 and give it the same treatment.
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Why root? Wouldn't Nova launcher have done the trick?
every now and than, EMUI causes Nova to crash, which really is annoying. Trust me
droidvark said:
the Huawei isn't really very good. Oversaturated, greenish/blueish with bright colors that pierce my eyeballs out. I have 2 Huawei's actually, and both screens are totally different in terms of screen calibration. One one, I had to take 10% green out and 5% blue to make it look closer to the other one (now grey looks off compared to the other one but colors and warmth are somewhat similar).
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Same. I have both an M5 and M5 Pro. Both screens lean heavily toward a green color gamut. Using the stock white balance tool helps, but not enough. Using a third party app, I can get the screen to look decent on it's own. But next to any properly calibrated screen they look pretty awful.
kev1807 said:
every now and than, EMUI causes Nova to crash, which really is annoying. Trust me
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Ok, I have Nova Premium on my P20 Pro and so far (in a couple of months) it has not crashed once. The only thing I have noticed
is the P20 Pro disconnecting from WiFi for no obvious reason and requiring a reboot to reconnect. But I did not attribute that
to Nova. On the other hand earlier rooted devices with custom roms usually turned into crash fests. So I'd still go for Nova as a
fix.
By the way, Nova is running very stable on my M5 as well and looks like a million bucks.
it looks great, as I set mine up the way I want it ...
on stock I had several crashes of nova in a week, not once since I rooted my M5 Pro. :-o
i guess i am the only one not hating emui, i'm not gonna say i love it, but for me is fine enough, in emui 9 it gets even better (i've got mate 20 pro)
I just got an M5 with 4G (not sure I will use this, but was a crazy low price) - 380 Euros.
It replaces my Sony Xperia Z4 ... which I only replaced as the screen was broken, and cost nearly 300 Euros to replace the screen.
I agree that the display is poor compared to the Sony (which was bright and gorgeous) - but in every other aspect the M4 is better.
Will try and find a third party app to adjust the colour ... any recommendations?
I am running Nova on mine too - but the slightly annoying thing is that the search bar in landscape mode isn't horizontally along the top, but vertically on the left hand side .... according to the developer this is to do with the screen DPI and resolution, and is not controlled by the app.
The m5 display is good. The colors just don't pop but to me that's sort of like the blind smartphone camera test where the majority of people chose the camera that had brighter pictures but that didn't mean better quality.
Against the s8 - yeah there is a difference and the s8 destroys it but its kind of diminishing returns. The display is still solid on the m5. Sure, there is some color shift and the colors regardless of calibration lean towards cold. Side-by-side i'm not crushed that the m5 doesnt look like the s8. I guess depending on what you want out of it this may be a deal breaker but for most people i would suspect it not to be.
I have lot of doubts between M5 10.8 and Samsung tab A 2018
Does the multiuser work correctly? with fingerprint?
Does Hearthstone run ok?

Question Screen quality and brightness - Galaxy S22 Ultra vs Pixel 7 Pro

I just messed with the Pixel 7 pro at Best Buy before mine arrives tomorrow and I am a little alarmed at how bad the screen looks. I normalized the colors and settings on both the Pixel and my S22 Ultra and the Samsung is brighter, more readable, less dim, if that makes sense, than the Pixel. Even at low brightness when I was messing with things the Samsung had readable text. When I lowered the brightness on the Pixel it started to look just hazy and muddy. Both devices 1440p. The Pixel's auto brightness kept failing. It stuck with what I moved the slider to even after toggling the option. A reboot seemed to fix it temporaily.
Anyone who came from an S22 phone and has a Pixel now, what are your thoughts on the screen?
In terms of specs, Samsung is using a "Dynamic AMOLED 2x" panel, according to Phonearena, and the Pixel is using "LTPO AMOLED".
A side question, can you manually set your colors for text, background, etc? Or do you HAVE TO use the material you nonsense and let it pick for you? If so, anyone know if the Pixel 6 has mods available to make it more manual without using exposed?
xgerryx said:
I just messed with the Pixel 7 pro at Best Buy before mine arrives tomorrow and I am a little alarmed at how bad the screen looks. I normalized the colors and settings on both the Pixel and my S22 Ultra and the Samsung is brighter, more readable, less dim, if that makes sense, than the Pixel. Even at low brightness when I was messing with things the Samsung had readable text. When I lowered the brightness on the Pixel it started to look just hazy and muddy. Both devices 1440p. The Pixel's auto brightness kept failing. It stuck with what I moved the slider to even after toggling the option. A reboot seemed to fix it temporaily.
Anyone who came from an S22 phone and has a Pixel now, what are your thoughts on the screen?
In terms of specs, Samsung is using a "Dynamic AMOLED 2x" panel, according to Phonearena, and the Pixel is using "LTPO AMOLED".
A side question, can you manually set your colors for text, background, etc? Or do you HAVE TO use the material you nonsense and let it pick for you? If so, anyone know if the Pixel 6 has mods available to make it more manual without using exposed?
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I had a S22 for a week or so and the wife and I had a 21 Ultra for over a year and a half. Neither of us have had any readability issues with our Pixels. She has a 6 Pro and I have the 7 Pro now. The only thing I didn't care for is the hollow feeling and sound when tapping. The auto brightness is a bit more responsive on the Samsung but it works fine here. Other than that we are very happy with the switch. My advice is to try it out for yourself and ignore the kool-aid floating around. I was concerned at first too.
My pixel 7 pro arrived today. Screen is crap. Yellow tint to everything. Colour temperature doesnt seem right. Its as you say, looks muddy, drab. I'm coming from a oneplus 7 pro which has a fantastic screen. Its been reported but google havent acknowledged a problem yet.
Its really dissapointing... Has anyone else compared their pixel to another OLED phone?
Pixel 7 & 7 Pro display colors appear washed out on some units
A section of Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro users are reporting that display colors appear washed out and whites have yellow tint.
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discophil said:
My pixel 7 pro arrived today. Screen is crap. Yellow tint to everything. Colour temperature doesnt seem right. Its as you say, looks muddy, drab. I'm coming from a oneplus 7 pro which has a fantastic screen. Its been reported but google havent acknowledged a problem yet.
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Any pictures of this yellow tint or are you just repeating what you read elsewhere?
Or did you enable night mode lol
Screen is superior to the S22 Ultra according to DXOMark and sits behind only the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
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We put the Google Pixel 7 Pro through our rigorous DXOMARK Display test suite to measure its performance across six criteria. In this test summary, we will break down how it fared in a variety of tests and several common use cases. Overview Key display specifications: 6.7 inches OLED (~89.6%...
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Certainly better than any screen on any phone I've ever owned but to each their own.
iRhyiku said:
Any pictures of this yellow tint or are you just repeating what you read elsewhere?
Or did you enable night mode lol
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LOL no, i dont have night mode enabled.
I know these things are subjective and what's technically correct might not be what people prefer. For instance a warmer colour temperature I think is what might actually be correct and accurate for a cinema/movies, but for general display use people I think usually prefer a cooler white over a warmer one. Like if i look at a sheet of A4 paper in daylight, it looks white as white, not with a yellow tint.
Its very difficult to photograph the difference. Human eyes are more sensitive the the difference in colour temp. However...
The one way i can think of to show the difference between a cooler (normal for most phones?) display such as my oneplue 7 pro is to take a photo of ONLY the oneplus's full white screen. I can then use photo as a custom white balance on my DSLR. So that the oneplus screen is what the camera will use as true white. Then we can see a direct comparrison against the Pixel 7 pro and see that its got a warmer/yellow colour temp/tint. I also adjusted the brightness of each phone to be the same by using the DSLR to measure the brightness.
See photo below. Untouched image on the top (oneplus on the left, pixel on the right). Then a saturation boosted image below that.
I think all google needs to do is add back the option to manually set a cooler colour temperature and also add an option to boost the saturation. I know this likely isnt "accurate"... but people like pretty colours lol and have probably got used to oversaturated OLED displays.
I personally love the display on this phone. No complaints about it.
discophil said:
LOL no, i dont have night mode enabled.
I know these things are subjective and what's technically correct might not be what people prefer. For instance a warmer colour temperature I think is what might actually be correct and accurate for a cinema/movies, but for general display use people I think usually prefer a cooler white over a warmer one. Like if i look at a sheet of A4 paper in daylight, it looks white as white, not with a yellow tint.
Its very difficult to photograph the difference. Human eyes are more sensitive the the difference in colour temp. However...
The one way i can think of to show the difference between a cooler (normal for most phones?) display such as my oneplue 7 pro is to take a photo of ONLY the oneplus's full white screen. I can then use photo as a custom white balance on my DSLR. So that the oneplus screen is what the camera will use as true white. Then we can see a direct comparrison against the Pixel 7 pro and see that its got a warmer/yellow colour temp/tint. I also adjusted the brightness of each phone to be the same by using the DSLR to measure the brightness.
See photo below. Untouched image on the top (oneplus on the left, pixel on the right). Then a saturation boosted image below that.
I think all google needs to do is add back the option to manually set a cooler colour temperature and also add an option to boost the saturation. I know this likely isnt "accurate"... but people like pretty colours lol and have probably got used to oversaturated OLED displays.
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I have my Pixel now and this is correct. The screen is like dim and drab compared to the galaxy at the same brightness level in exactly the same place. I have everything set up the same on both. 50% brightness on the Pixel doesn't look close to normal compared to 30% on the Galaxy, or what my Oneplus 8 Pro was either.
This is pretty disappointing. Still going to give it a chance for a week before I decide but this is noticeably worse.
The kicker with this is that Google provide almost zero customization, even compared to Oneplus. I am totally ok relying on mods and root, which I will be doing, but it needs to be at least possible.
Actually! This should give us the proper answer! I just read on the below link that 'A colour temperature of 6500 K is standard for ordinary PC use and for the sRGB standard'
https://www.eizo.co.uk/knowledge/monitor-expertise/color-temperature-on-an-lcd-monitor/
I've set the colour temperature on my DSLR manually to 6500K. So anything that is 6500k should look white on the photo. Again, photo below comparrison from oneplus 7 pro and pixel 7 pro with the saturation boosted image on the bottom.
The pixel is defo yellower vs 6500k standard. The oneplus is bit too blue vs 6500k. Either way... yes. the pixel has a yellow tint vs what it probably should be (given no user settings for us to be able to change the colour temp settings.
Comparing the Pixel 7 Pro side by side with the Pixel 6 Pro and S22 Ultra. The S22 Ultra is brighter and more saturated which I think looks better. The 6 Pro and 7 Pro screen both have a duller "natural" look with the 6 Pro slightly red and the 7 Pro slightly yellow, though white looks acceptable on all three. The brightness on the S22 Ultra at 40% is similar to the 7 Pro at 60% and the 6 Pro at 80%.
We need to petition Google to bring back the Saturated mode they had on previous pixels.
Unless one has a particular need for absolute color fidelity, it all comes down to what pleases. Hence discussions like this can seem pointless. For those who care about the technical analyses, however, here's a link to DxOMark's Google Pixel 7 Pro Display test. The P7P scored 153 points for Display Color. (High at 163 points was the Sony Xperia 5 IV.)
Color measurements for the Google Pixel 7 Pro are close to those of the reference target, and thanks to its color fidelity, the new device provides realistic and pleasant color rendering. The Pixel 7 Pro adapts its color gamut to image content and is uniform in color. Unlike the Apple device, however, the Pixel 7 Pro does not adapt its white point to the lighting environment.
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Curiously, however, the DxOMark table of all smartphone display scores lists the iPhone 14 Pro Max first with 149 points, immediately followed by the P7P with 149 points. The Samsung S22 Ultra is tied for tenth, with the iPhone 13, at 136 points. For some reason, DxOMark didn't score the OnePlus 7 Pro's display. DxOMark did rank its selfie camera (22nd at 113 points vs. 145 for the iPhone 14 Pro, 142 for the P7P, and 133 for the S22 Ultra).
RebDovid said:
Unless one has a particular need for absolute color fidelity, it all comes down to what pleases. Hence discussions like this can seem pointless. For those who care about the technical analyses, however, here's a link to DxOMark's Google Pixel 7 Pro Display test. The P7P scored 153 points for Display Color. (High at 163 points was the Sony Xperia 5 IV.)
Curiously, however, the DxOMark table of all smartphone display scores lists the iPhone 14 Pro Max first with 149 points, immediately followed by the P7P with 149 points. The Samsung S22 Ultra is tied for tenth, with the iPhone 13, at 136 points. For some reason, DxOMark didn't score the OnePlus 7 Pro's display. DxOMark did rank its selfie camera (22nd at 113 points vs. 145 for the iPhone 14 Pro, 142 for the P7P, and 133 for the S22 Ultra).
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All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
discophil said:
All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
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The quotation in my post includes the sentence you underlined.
RebDovid said:
The quotation in my post includes the sentence you underlined.
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lol. So it does! When I click reply to your post , this is what I see. I was reading this as I was replying to you and that bit in the middle is missing on the reply screen. So I didnt see it.
discophil said:
All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
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I bet you someone can figure out how to access that color temp menu. Let's see if someone comes across this and figures that out. Do dialer codes work on this phone? On the s22 they don't.
Beefheart said:
No, I don't work for Google.
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Will do thanks.
No worries.
discophil said:
lol. So it does! When I click reply to your post , this is what I see. I was reading this as I was replying to you and that bit in the middle is missing on the reply screen. So I didnt see it.
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EtherealRemnant said:
I personally love the display on this phone. No complaints about it.
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How much has Google paid you?
Beefheart said:
How much has Google paid you?
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Shoot I wish they would! My husband wants a new computer lol
EtherealRemnant said:
Shoot I wish they would! My husband wants a new computer lol
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He's making fun of me, very classy.

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