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[Q] upgrading ram

Hi everyone,
I have been reading on these forums and it seems like the developers have done a very nice job with custom roms(got to love opensource community).
I got a g-tablet and was wondering if it is possible upgrade the ram in the tablet. Let me know if anyone has opened there tablet up and have looked at the hardware inside and maybe post couple of pics of the layout of the hardware.
-R

Here you go.
This thread is a good place to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842354&highlight=screen+replacement

Kind of a repost; you just needed a ***bump***
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12108775
Anyway... Yes it is possible.
From what i have heard, g tab got two slots of ram and just used one with the 512kb. The problem here, like i posted 5 minutes ago, is that current roms dont support more ram than 512kb. Maybe with honeycomb release and its requirements we finally get the support for extra ram in our devices.
Cheer for the mods and lets wait a little longer for the honeycream AOSP and a port for g tablet.

It's not two slots of ram it's more like the x-box ram upgrade.

so does anyone have pics of what the ram actually looks like? And is it possible to purchase from the market?

Dvalin21 said:
so does anyone have pics of what the ram actually looks like? And is it possible to purchase from the market?
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It is *NOT* possible to upgrade the ram, period, end of story.
(yes, it's possible, but if you have to ask, you can't do it. extreme soldering skill required)

[Q] LG optimus 3d (RAM 512 = too little?)

I have seen other phones that are dual core too, i.e the Evo 3d, motorola atrix, but with 1gb ram. When it comes to gaming, and not just counting the 3d aspect of it. Will the 512 mb of ram be enough to run even upcoming games. Can this device stand newer games that other phones like the htc evo 3d might have no problem handling? Share some thoughts on this. thnx

omfg AGAIN???? :/
512mb are ABSOLUTELY enough!!!
just look at this review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEE65bNN8mc&feature=player_embedded
8 apps open and phone still fast

While the dual channel technology might bring some small performance benefits, 512MB will remain 512MB.
Current games should be no problem at all, but upcoming games (utilizing the unreal or unity engine for example) will definitely step up in terms of texture amount+resolution and general amount of data (see recent news of Shadowgun for example).
This could become a disadvantage at a certain point, but we´ll have to wait for some hard numbers when the time will come.
But i´m confident that the optimus 3d can keep up at least for 1 year (until we actually experience noticeable performance disadvantages with more advanced and complex games aimed at the Tegra3 Platform and other upcoming chipsets).

I have experienced some lock up'freezing issues when play the included games in 3D. I rooted my phone, so i dont know if its due to that or if its just due to the fact its a developer phone and the software is not final. I still love this phone, very fast and i get 8mb average dl's on Tmo here in the Bay Area(Hayward).

Could someone who has a pre release O3D unit have a look and see how much free ram is available after start-up please? (i'm an android newbie, not sure if this is possible on LG androids in general, without a specific app?) Just wondering how much ram the system leaves you to use....?
Thanks
Ian

i'm confused here...
i was under the impression that the concept here was tri-dual (dual core, dual channel memory, DUAL RAM) resulting in there being 1gb of ram configured as 512mb per core?
is that not what's happening?

It´s supposed to be 256|256 ^^

that's a bit dissappointing then.
however, as has been pointed out, it doesn't seem to affect overall performance much. i can see it being a hinderance to the future longevity o the phone though. a newer-than-gingerbread version of android on the horizon which will undoubtedly demand for higher specs could see this become a problem.

According to the presentation it's supposed to be memory for gpu and memory for system

Has anybody with a pre or final relase O3D managed to find out how much free ram is available after a cold start up please? (i.e no apps/games running, only a task manager) If it's something like 200 - 250mb then that should be ok i guess, HTC seem to think that amount is ok on their sensation, and that started with 768mb..... Sense 3 seems to be a bit of a resource hog, it seems.....
Thanks
Ian

i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.

nic85 said:
i saw in a videopreview,about 340mb free.
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Thanks for this, if you could provide a link or something i'd be grateful 340mb available is better than i'd hoped for
Thanks
Ian

can't find that,but i have this
http://www.batista70phone.com/2011/05/video-recensione-lg-optimus-3d-by-batista70phone/
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300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.

hefonthefjords said:
300+meg of free ram is loads and there will probbaly be more if you kill off some of the crappy stock services that you might not need, for example google talk.
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nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway

cheltenham2004 said:
nd remember its an old software the latest as we speak is June the 5th so things must be getting better,I need this phone now its getting really tough every day trolling the web for info sad muppets we are well me anyway
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if it gets delayed again

hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.

hefonthefjords said:
hehe, agreed. i'm just fed up of my current phone. too old/not powerful enough for gingerbread and locked bootloader so only a poor port of cyanogenmod with an un-customisable kernel. long overdue time for new toys.
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Sounds like you have the motorola milestone

totally.
it's like motorola gave me a gold brick and the punched me in the face every day since.

If an O3D is supplied directly from a network, and comes loaded with their bloatware, will this affect the amount of free ram available?
Thanks
Ian

[Q] Transformer Prime RAM

Hi,
Was just wondering what people thought about the Prime's RAM. I know nothing has been officially stated but there are strong rumours that it will have 1GB!
I hope it comes with at least 2GB as it will inevitably become possible to port windows 8 onto it. As we all know, 1GB doesn't cut it these days for an OS.
It also just seems right. Devices have had 1GB for 2 years now! If they don't put it in these devices, software will never use it.
Thoughts?

what do you mean 1GB RAM doesn't cut it for an OS?? Android is an OS, and its perfectly happy with 1GB of RAM...

1 gb is more than enough for the asus eee pc transformer
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I just don't think it pushes boundaries.
My GS2 has 1GB and that's a phone. I regularly use up to 800mb on that and that it without HD streaming (something I intend to do on my tablet).
On such a premium device it feels like a compromise. Another 1GB would cost nothing in today's world.

Port windows 8? I thought it will have an ARM version, but 2GB is better than 1.
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Windows 8 will run on the Tegra 3. This has been confirmed along time back

windows 8 is not open source. there will never be a port of it for the transformer...that is unless of course asus/ms had a secret agreement to release either a windows 8 version of TF2, or a retail version of Windows 8 that is non-warranty-voiding, and user-installable.
either way, if there was such an agreement, asus would design the TF with W8 requirements in mind...and give it the neccessary hardware.
but this is very improbable. windows 8 may be portable to the TF2...but even if that were true...licensing will always prevent it from being something you can just do.
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Microsoft showcased windows 8 running on a 1ghz tegra 2 processor with 1 gig of ram and it ran fine
Saying it is possible but boot loader would have to be rewritten and you would need a legitimate cerial key but it is technically possible

Without a doubt it is possible.
Surely installing windows 8 on it with a valid serial is fine. It is designed to run on Tegra 3. I image once the ARM version is released and the Prime has been out a while this topic will heat up.
Hopefully 1GB (rumoured) won't cause a problem.

This thread is so stupid IMHO.
My first computer had RAM measured in K, I never ran out. I've just replaced a Windows XP PC that had 2GB with one that has 8GB and Windows 7. I was just starting to be able to fill more than 1GB of memory when pushing it to the limits. I'ved used mobile devices with 256MB to 1GB and never overloaded them, I tend to abuse systems when it comes to processes and multitasking. I have gone as far as *compiling* code for days at a time under FreeBSD and never had problems with even 1GB, even if using it as a fully functional system at the same time. Even seeing swap space getting used was a very rare thing.
If you seriously *need* more than 1GB of memory in your transformer, I must ask if you are using it to transcode a Petabyte of high definition porn.
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IMHO, I fully agree with the OP.
While you may not need more than one GB of ram, I sure would like to have it.
Plus as was stated earlier, phones come with 1GB of ram. Currently tablets are no more powerful than phones. I'd like my tablet to be a bit more powerful than a phone. Maybe then we'll start seeing some better software designed specifically with tablets in mind.

Which is pointless because there are so many more iPads than Android tablets, that for the near term, the current gen of iPad will set the hardware gap that software would be designed around. The best near-future hope for Tablet oriented apps that way in my honest opinion, is iPad+Android apps because of the ROI we're the leaches not the wolves. By the time something like what you want occurs, you will be able to get a free Android phone on contract with more power than the TF101. Maybe we might also have 4GB tablets as well.
My TF is considerably more powerful than my handset but I live in the real world. Culture will not make that big a revolution unless Android tablets have enough market share and consumers throw enough $$$ their way. With how many people I've met that will shell out $500++ for a phone and than take a piss if they need to buy an app for $3 that will last for another five handsets--I don't see that happening either, personally. I like the idea of a tablet more powerful than a phone but I realize phones sell a lot more units right now and will keep doing so versus Android tablets for a good while more. Wishes don't change worlds unless you hack the reality.
The Prime's principal evolution is a next gen SoC and refinements to the TF101. It's like an update to DooM II from DooM, not a Ferrari from your Mustang. And it was never billed as such.
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How much Ram for developing?

I have googled the hell out of this, and there just isnt much out there. How much Ram is best for building ROM's? I understand that there is no such thing as too much RAM, but how much is really beneficial? I am currently building from source, and doing some cherry picks with a gateway laptop. 2.1 GHZ dual core AMD vision processor, 4GB Ram DDR3 PC-8500. I am thinking about upgrading to 8GB DDR PC10200. I am wondering if this will speed anything up or not. Or is it just unnecessary spending? The memory is only like $45 shipped so its not overly pricey, but the only thing increasing memory will help me with (or will it?) is compiling and buiding, and syncing. My internet is only ATT DSL and my max download is like 5mb. It is typically my hinderence. Please advise!
And no I cannot upgrade my internet, my complex wont let us have cable from anyone but them and they only offer 1.5mb from bloom, and they want $45 per month. I am paying $20 per month for ATT DSL @ 6mb (which i never get obviously). There are no other DSL providers and like I said the complex wont let any other company bring in cable connections.

It really depends on what OS you're running. A lot of OEMs put x32 Windows on their systems, even though they're all capable of x64 now. If you have a 32-bit system and are running Windows, your OS will limit you to ~3GB of available memory, regardless of how much you have physically installed.
If you're running Linux (which is recommended, I believe, for development), then more memory is always a good thing. The more memory and the faster processor means faster compiling speeds. Faster compiling speed means you can test your ROM/app faster.
Syncing will depend solely on your download speeds, so RAM will not really have any effect on that at all.

liquidzoo said:
It really depends on what OS you're running. A lot of OEMs put x32 Windows on their systems, even though they're all capable of x64 now. If you have a 32-bit system and are running Windows, your OS will limit you to ~3GB of available memory, regardless of how much you have physically installed.
If you're running Linux (which is recommended, I believe, for development), then more memory is always a good thing. The more memory and the faster processor means faster compiling speeds. Faster compiling speed means you can test your ROM/app faster.
Syncing will depend solely on your download speeds, so RAM will not really have any effect on that at all.
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You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
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Illnevertell said:
You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
Ram isn't dudes problem your processor could use an upgrade though with a decent dual core building at standard -j4 will take roughly 2 hours on cm
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You can't build source in windows and he has stated he is building from source so he's on linux.
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That wasn't mentioned in the OP, but my comments about 32-bit vs 64-bit still hold. There are ways to virtualize, and that would run differently than a full install.
Ram isn't dudes problem your processor could use an upgrade though with a decent dual core building at standard -j4 will take roughly 2 hours on cm
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The AMD Vision series are dual, quad, and octo core processors. I'm guessing that his is at least a dual core already. Not saying an upgrade wouldn't help, but it's harder to upgrade a laptop processor than a desktop one.

liquidzoo said:
That wasn't mentioned in the OP, but my comments about 32-bit vs 64-bit still hold. There are ways to virtualize, and that would run differently than a full install.
The AMD Vision series are dual, quad, and octo core processors. I'm guessing that his is at least a dual core already. Not saying an upgrade wouldn't help, but it's harder to upgrade a laptop processor than a desktop one.
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It's a dual core, wish it was quad lol. I am running Linux mint, 64 bit so that won't limit me thankfully. Good info guys!
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I just read that you can't compile 2.3.x+ without a 64-bit OS, so my comments about the OS are rendered mostly useless. Other comments still hold, though.

liquidzoo said:
I just read that you can't compile 2.3.x+ without a 64-bit OS, so my comments about the OS are rendered mostly useless. Other comments still hold, though.
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At one point in time I was compiling cm9 on my 32bit system. Took about an two and a half hours though. Dual core with 3gig ram
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ICS I could compile on 32 bit jb I need 64 bit
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I think I'm gonna just grab an 8gb kit from crucial and see what happens
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That's dumb no point get a better processor before that much ram it will not help you at all with compiling without something to use that data
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Illnevertell said:
That's dumb no point get a better processor before that much ram it will not help you at all with compiling without something to use that data
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I can't find a processor that's compatible, plus so far building cm10 hasn't even used 75% of my processor. If you can find a way to replace a laptop processor let me know. I hear it's a pain.
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I can do it on my dell inspiron bro and why get 8 gigs of ram your not doing anything that needs it if your also not pushing the processor
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Illnevertell said:
I can do it on my dell inspiron bro and why get 8 gigs of ram your not doing anything that needs it if your also not pushing the processor
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I'll look into finding a drop in quad core, it will take time to research tho.
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Decepticaons said:
I have googled the hell out of this, and there just isnt much out there. How much Ram is best for building ROM's? I understand that there is no such thing as too much RAM, but how much is really beneficial? I am currently building from source, and doing some cherry picks with a gateway laptop. 2.1 GHZ dual core AMD vision processor, 4GB Ram DDR3 PC-8500. I am thinking about upgrading to 8GB DDR PC10200. I am wondering if this will speed anything up or not. Or is it just unnecessary spending? The memory is only like $45 shipped so its not overly pricey, but the only thing increasing memory will help me with (or will it?) is compiling and buiding, and syncing. My internet is only ATT DSL and my max download is like 5mb. It is typically my hinderence. Please advise!
And no I cannot upgrade my internet, my complex wont let us have cable from anyone but them and they only offer 1.5mb from bloom, and they want $45 per month. I am paying $20 per month for ATT DSL @ 6mb (which i never get obviously). There are no other DSL providers and like I said the complex wont let any other company bring in cable connections.
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I'm currently using an old Vista computer with an AMD Athlon Dual core 4600+, GeForce 210 PCIe, & 2GB of DDR2. Nothing fancy nor overclocked. I have Linux Mint 13 "Maya" - Cinnamon (64-bit) installed and it all works quite nicely. Your biggest downfall is going to be your DSL (I have the same) because it takes a few hours to download the repository files. As far as compiling & debugging goes, it's all good.
The Mint linux is simply a Ubuntu based OS with far less GUI issues on my older comp, I've had both but Mint seems to run smoother:
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=106
There's lotsa good info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
I'm still very new to the actual building myself but I've had a blast learning! My phone is actually running on a system I compiled all by myself! I couldn't have done it without all the help from my new friends here on XDA...
Search the forum for more info, it's ALL there, you simple need to look for it! Hope I helped...
Have fun with it!
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scootertrashtx said:
I'm currently using an old Vista computer with an AMD Athlon Dual core 4600+, GeForce 210 PCIe, & 2GB of DDR2. Nothing fancy nor overclocked. I have Linux Mint 13 "Maya" - Cinnamon (64-bit) installed and it all works quite nicely. Your biggest downfall is going to be your DSL (I have the same) because it takes a few hours to download the repository files. As far as compiling & debugging goes, it's all good.
The Mint linux is simply a Ubuntu based OS with far less GUI issues on my older comp, I've had both but Mint seems to run smoother:
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=106
There's lotsa good info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
I'm still very new to the actual building myself but I've had a blast learning! My phone is actually running on a system I compiled all by myself! I couldn't have done it without all the help from my new friends here on XDA...
Search the forum for more info, it's ALL there, you simple need to look for it! Hope I helped...
Have fun with it!
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I should have mentioned my compile time, It took about 5 1/2 hours on JB... you can throttle the output a bit with a command code that sk8ter listed... let me find it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766862
3rd code block in #1...
If you're using a laptop, set it on a hard, flat surface or better yet, get a cooler... it'll get a bit warm.
Read this too... good info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812253

Ubuntu on our HTC One X?

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?

zoltrix said:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?
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the new ubuntu OS looks sexy !!

Two Separate Things
To clarify, those are two separate things. One is an entirely new mobile phone OS, the other is a docked desktop OS that runs alongside Android, sharing the kernel and other resources. The Engadget article for the Ubuntu for Android is here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/24/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on/. I'm very excited about the possibility of Ubuntu for Android, but it looks like only OEMs can talk to them about it.

I like the way the OS looks, but I rather have buttons than have swipe gestures. Gestures are what my playbook and RIM excel at.
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they should make an Ubuntu development subforum once this bad boy gets ported

WOW
This is simply marvelous:good:, I love it!

I'd pay to have a working port of that!
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I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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Reading further you yes they intend to have it completely open source and they also plan to make it easily portable to devices that run android
I'm definitely going to want to see it
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Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.

Just finished watching the youtube intro for this. So excited. This is what I've been waiting for, for a very long time.

I installed Ubuntu natively on my Xoom a while back, it ran a bit slow but was useable. The main problem was the touchscreen driver. The HOXL is quite a bit faster than the Xoom, so it should work nicely. I'd like to get my hands on that smartphone version of Ubuntu.

codeprimate said:
Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.
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I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.

AJerman said:
I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.
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yeah, I'm optimistic. It won't be a highly spec'd desktop by any means, but I'm not really a gamer (the only games I'd play on it would be chess and freeciv. You are correct - 1 GB of RAM is not a lot, and it'd struggle with any heavyweight desktop app, but I've got the Tesltra HTC one XL (which is 32 GB not 16 like the AT&T version), so it should be slightly more usable (at least while I'm waiting for manufacturers to start releasing linux phones).
For storage I'd mostly be using my home NAS, and the cloud options available.
I get that it will be quite limited, but I'd still like to see what it can do