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Which OS is used more?

This thread is actually aimed toward developers and advanced users, but anyone is welcomed to respond. I am curious about which OS is preferred by those that help us all. Overall, windows is more prevalent. But I suspect that a lot of people here use other things.
I will start off. Up until a few weeks ago, I used windows solely. Then I developed an interest in Linux. I just updated my dual booted Win XP/Ubuntu machine today. But, up until a month ago I used a Win7 machine. I still have a lot, and I mean a lot, of learning to do with Linux.
Now, who's next?

Ubuntu, might change with Windows 8 we will see.
I am not amused with your phones performance

Linux
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I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.

flashman2002 said:
I will try Ubuntu whenever I get a new computer or finish school. I need to have Office for my school and from what I have read it just isn't very good, or its tough to get to work properly. More trouble than what I can troubleshoot right now. So for me its Vista...bleh.
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You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.

mrhaley30705 said:
You could always dual boot Ubuntu using the WUBI installer.
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That is beyond my scope at the moment.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!

windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...

Pirateghost said:
windows 7 ultimate 64bit on my main desktop which is my gaming rig.... its like a nuclear reactor..
all my laptops run ubuntu 64bit. one of them is 11.10, my big dev laptop is 10.10, google chromebook (obviously runs chrome OS). i have another laptop that i try out different distros on. my 12" laptop runs backtrack5 used them all, but ubuntu works the best with the least amount of dickin around. when i want to have fun i run arch, when i want to pull my hair out i run fedora... lol
my servers are a mix of arch, fedora, debian...
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Do you have a computer for each phone?

At the moment I am dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8 Dev Preview but when I get the chance I plan on installing PCLinuxOS when the dev preview is locked out.
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Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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mrhaley30705 said:
Do you have a computer for each phone?
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LOL....kind of. i got rid of some devices. just down to galaxy s2, captivate, aria, atrix, touchpad, ipad1 -64gb3g, iphone4, oh and i still have a mytouch4g or 2

b-eock said:
Well Windows is the chosen primary (cuz my family uses the computer too) and dual booted with Ubuntu (my primary)!
When i buy a new desktop (HP 6 core 3.4 GHz each core) i built it to be top of the line so i could do anything i need! Ubuntu will be the Primary OS on that!
If you know where i can get a good desktop or laptop, let me know, ok?
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Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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bradleyG said:
Well you would save a lot of money if you built your own computer. Your options are a lot less limited, and you get to have fun doing it. I don't know how much you plan to spend on the HP but I built my computer for about $1100 and I have a six core processor overclocked at 4ghz with a 2gb radeon HD 6950 graphics card, 8 gigs of corsair vengeance ddr3 1600mhz, a ssd and a 1tb 7200rpm western digital caviar black hdd. Lots of fun stuff when you build your own PC.
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Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.

I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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b-eock said:
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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thats too much.
3gb video processor?? wtf is that? sounds like nvidia quadro which wont run games the same way a desktop card will.
somebody needs a lesson in PC building 101

I have a netbook with XP ...LOL...
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Captain_Nero said:
Where did you get your components? Store bought or Online.
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It was a combination and just a little waiting for the right deals.
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b-eock said:
I chose everything online by specific parts,
Six core non OC at 3.4 GHz
16 GB RAM
3GB Video processor
2 TB 7200 rpm hard drive
costing me about $1800
edit will get specifics in a bit!
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I don't know what you plan on doing with this PC but I'm positive you won't need 16gb of RAM ditch the 3gb video card and get something like a 6970 or a top notch nvidia card. Post the parts in detail you chose and what you will be using the PC for
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I dumped windows a few months ago for Ubuntu. My 6 year old desktop runs Ubuntu 11.10 and my two year old Laptop runs the same thing. I just wish I people would focus on Heimdall than Odin.

I'll use anything but Linux.
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Samsung rolling out JB for most smartphones

I got my hopes up for nothing as the Charge did not make the list
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/24/samsung-rolling-jelly-bean-toward-most-of-its-smartphone-tablet/

It has already been said that jb and touchwiz would never fit on our system partition.
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I think the bigger issue here besides getting 4.1 is... the mobile market needs to follow the model of the PC for the enduser.
I would be willing to pay some money to upgrade to the next major OS updates for my devices. Whether its my tablets or my phone. I wouldn't mind if I could only get vanilla android either.
It would put the power in the consumers hands. For example, I bought a laptop with windows vista and later upgraded it to windows 7 since my laptop could run it well. I hope someday android is able to do this as well. And sooner rather than later.
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bubarub said:
I think the bigger issue here besides getting 4.1 is... the mobile market needs to follow the model of the PC for the enduser.
I would be willing to pay some money to upgrade to the next major OS updates for my devices. Whether its my tablets or my phone. I wouldn't mind if I could only get vanilla android either.
It would put the power in the consumers hands. For example, I bought a laptop with windows vista and later upgraded it to windows 7 since my laptop could run it well. I hope someday android is able to do this as well. And sooner rather than later.
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The problem is that upgrading a phone will never be as straightforward as upgrading a PC. There's no one "Android Operating System" that exists as a general purpose OS. AOSP is the base, but even Google does more work to it before it goes on a Nexus device. Every phone has different hardware, which requires different drivers, and often, different close-source software and libraries, which means that every version of Android is a different embedded OS that is based on core Android. Making it generalized enough to run across the board on all hardware on the market would bloat it. It would make it memory, CPU, and power inefficient. We like to think of our phones as powerful miniature computers, but in reality, they don't even match the processor and memory capabilities of the average netbook. It's only through careful optimizations that it is able to run the way it runs, and you can't just slap a generic version of Android on a device and expect the same results.

Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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bubarub said:
Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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As Shrike said - the phones are too small and don't have the capacity that computers do for memory, disk and processor. Even if they did, the power draw would be excessive. Everything is extremely customized to fit within the phone's tiny footprint.
BTW - every computer has it's own limits with respect to memory and cpu capacity. Yes, you can upgrade, but there is a point of diminishing returns. What's the point of installing the fastest processor if the bus can't handle it? It goes on and on.
Lastly, it will never be in their best interests (profits, new sales) to adopt the computer model. They don't like that you keep a computer for years. They want churn. They want planned obsolescence.

bubarub said:
Its not impossible...
And isn't every computer different from one another just like a phone or tablets?!
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Impossible? No. Highly impractical? Yes
A computer has enough memory, storage, and processor power that the larger footprint of the "everything and the kitchen sink" model doesn't bog it down the way it would a phone. Just look at storage space alone...when you don't know exactly what hardware you're going to encounter, you have to account for all possibilities. Just the extra storage is going to add tangibly to the cost. Then you have the extra power drain required for the more efficient processors that will be needed to run the more generic OS correctly, and the extra RAM needed to load all of it's parts. A smartphone is a modern example of the classic embedded system. When you have limited resources to work with, your OS has to be more focused, customized, and efficient to work in an acceptable way.
So, yes, it's possible in the broadest sense, but do you want to pay $1500+ for the device that can be upgraded at will and be out of date within 2 years? Or would you rather pay $100-$500 every two years for the latest hardware and OS, at the expense of a more limited upgrade path? Personally, I know where I'll put my money.

Haha good point on that last paragraph! I agree.
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Specs
It doesn't take much to look at the default off the shelf Dell box's specs and compare them to that of any phone. The Intel Core i7 or AMD FX-8150 processors would smoke any ARM on the market for mobiles. Memory in the desktop is 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz. Again crushing the Droid Charge and every other phone. 1TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive, nuff said man won't be there for mobile for a while now. The power consumption would drain your mobiles battery in the time it takes to boot up. Let us also not forget that GHz and GB and TB don't all perform the same across the board. For instance a 1TB parallel ATA drive, 1TB SATA, and 1TB SSD differ vastly in performance. The NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad core, 1.2 GHz, ARM Cortex-A9 processor in the Nexus 7 just doesn't hold a candle to the Intel Core i7-640UM Dual Core 1.2 GHz. It's about more than cores and clock speeds.

MikeAGriffey said:
It doesn't take much to look at the default off the shelf Dell box's specs and compare them to that of any phone. The Intel Core i7 or AMD FX-8150 processors would smoke any ARM on the market for mobiles. Memory in the desktop is 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz. Again crushing the Droid Charge and every other phone. 1TB 7200RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive, nuff said man won't be there for mobile for a while now. The power consumption would drain your mobiles battery in the time it takes to boot up. Let us also not forget that GHz and GB and TB don't all perform the same across the board. For instance a 1TB parallel ATA drive, 1TB SATA, and 1TB SSD differ vastly in performance. The NVIDIA Tegra 3 Quad core, 1.2 GHz, ARM Cortex-A9 processor in the Nexus 7 just doesn't hold a candle to the Intel Core i7-640UM Dual Core 1.2 GHz. It's about more than cores and clock speeds.
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I could take the time to pick apart your post and make fun of you, but there isn't any point.
Kind of like your post.
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Time to just give up on JB or ICS for charge. I just upgraded to galaxy nexus. I love it and highly recommend it. Cheers!
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Ubuntu on our HTC One X?

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?

zoltrix said:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
So? what's it going to take?
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the new ubuntu OS looks sexy !!

Two Separate Things
To clarify, those are two separate things. One is an entirely new mobile phone OS, the other is a docked desktop OS that runs alongside Android, sharing the kernel and other resources. The Engadget article for the Ubuntu for Android is here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/24/ubuntu-for-android-hands-on/. I'm very excited about the possibility of Ubuntu for Android, but it looks like only OEMs can talk to them about it.

I like the way the OS looks, but I rather have buttons than have swipe gestures. Gestures are what my playbook and RIM excel at.
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they should make an Ubuntu development subforum once this bad boy gets ported

WOW
This is simply marvelous:good:, I love it!

I'd pay to have a working port of that!
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I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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dustinhayes93 said:
I read they are going to release test builds for the galaxy nexus periodicly... But if its Ubuntu... I'm sure its going to be completely open source and it said its built to use android kernel and drivers so I'm sure one day we will get a port. Not sure if our phone is capable of running the Ubuntu os and the desktop dock thing. It said to use desktop dock you have to have a quadcore
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Reading further you yes they intend to have it completely open source and they also plan to make it easily portable to devices that run android
I'm definitely going to want to see it
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Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.

Just finished watching the youtube intro for this. So excited. This is what I've been waiting for, for a very long time.

I installed Ubuntu natively on my Xoom a while back, it ran a bit slow but was useable. The main problem was the touchscreen driver. The HOXL is quite a bit faster than the Xoom, so it should work nicely. I'd like to get my hands on that smartphone version of Ubuntu.

codeprimate said:
Ubuntu on an XL with a bluetooth kb and mouse and something like a Toshiba Dynadock would rock. We'd have a vga out, multiple powered usb ports, headphone jack and a wired network connection in addition to 3G/4G and wifi.
Given that the One XL outperforms a lot of the quadcore phones on the market, it should be powerful enough to run this.
I'm running desktop Ubuntu on an old G5 imac (1 * 1.8GHz ppc processor). That is fast enough for my uses. It should scream on the dual 1.5GHz S4's.
I do recall putting together a linux from scratch OS while I was at uni ... Hrmm. I was actually due for a new computer. Maybe I'll turn my phone into my desktop.
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I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.

AJerman said:
I think you sound a little overly optimistic in my opinion. I don't think it'll run nearly as smooth as you think, but hell, compared to a PPC970 it may actually be faster. Your biggest issue is going to be the lack of memory. 1 GB is going to start looking mighty low when it comes to running desktop apps on it.
In their specs, they name a quad core A9 as required to run the desktop mode, but in my opinion I wouldn't really bother getting too excited until you're running at least an A15. An Exynos 5 Quad with 2 GB of RAM would probably run quite nicely. Anything less and I think you'll be dealing with a somewhat slow system. Look at the Chromebooks with the Exynos 5. People are loading Ubuntu on those and saying they run great. That's where I'd put the baseline for a desktop, but again, memory would be your biggest limitation at that point. I suppose it also depends on what they can strip out of the desktop version of Ubuntu that comes bundled. If it can be very lightweight, it would help greatly in the memory use department.
Speaking of stripping things out, the One X isn't likely going to be an ideal device for this due to it's lack of storage space also. You'd run out of space REALLY fast if you tried to install a few desktop apps.
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yeah, I'm optimistic. It won't be a highly spec'd desktop by any means, but I'm not really a gamer (the only games I'd play on it would be chess and freeciv. You are correct - 1 GB of RAM is not a lot, and it'd struggle with any heavyweight desktop app, but I've got the Tesltra HTC one XL (which is 32 GB not 16 like the AT&T version), so it should be slightly more usable (at least while I'm waiting for manufacturers to start releasing linux phones).
For storage I'd mostly be using my home NAS, and the cloud options available.
I get that it will be quite limited, but I'd still like to see what it can do

Building dev machine...

Ok so i got this spare laptop, it had a problem had to reflow the bridge. Got that all taken care of. Just wondering about the specs if it would be sufficient, for say some Jellybean.
Pretty new to all this gonna start with a plain old gingerbread source from my manufacturer.
AMD Athlon II P320 Dual Core 2100mhz
4 gig DDR3
ATA Disk 320gig
Ubuntu 12.10 64bit.
And any tips about the build environment/ or compiling android in general would be appreciated. No need to write up a tut but some helpful tips, or things to remember?
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There are plenty of tutorials for setting up the development environment in these forums just search around
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The emulator can be a bit slow at times.
I Use Windows 7 and use the X86 images to run the emulator. running the ARM images can be really slow.
If you are not going to use the emulator and use real devices to test and debug your apps a slower cpu will do.
My setup:
core I5 3470
8Gig ddr3 ram
SSD drive for OS and a normal drive for storage and builds of the source code.
It's enough and I have also used a laptop with a intel dual core a while back. But the emulator was really slow on that machine, I could not use the emulator with a tablet resolution.

thx for the tip, decided to just run full install of ubuntu 12.10 64bit. I think im pretty much ready to run...just gettin all the sources i can.
Question after ...gitin'... a source is it ok to rename the directory? I wont run into probs? as long as I dont mess around with anything tied to my paths in env. variables right? Even those I guess I could edit later. I dunno why im havin this brain fart tonight.
Just gotta watch what dir im in while workin i suppose if i go all renaming. I dont want to mess with the dirs in the source itself just the dir where i dl the sources to. I like to keep things oganized.
Sorry for all my noobieness lol. I also got some questions about the manifests but ill save them for google.
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Build rig

Hey all. Im thinkin about putting together a computer to build roms. I have an idea of what i want.
Now i was wondering if i could get some ideas from devs or home builders with experience.
Now this is what id like to build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XpwKK8
Now im wondering. Would an i7 really be all that much better at building roms than a amd fx 8 core?
I would like to play some games also but they dont have to be perfect.
Just looking for opinions

From my past experience, you will need lots of RAM to complete builds quickly.
You might want to consider increasing your current 8gb to at least 16gb or even 32gb. And using a SSD will save you a lot of time as well, but I don't know how much you're willing to spend.

First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.

psycho693 said:
First of all, I would recommend with the i7 because in my experience Intel has always worked much more smoothly and easily with Linux. And like the guy above me mentioned lots of ram and an ssd would help you greatly.
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Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd

Andromendous said:
Well I think this setup is a good start then. I definitely add more ram and a ssd
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What distro of Linux do you plan on using?

You should post your budget so we know what you can buy.

i7 over amd fx...not that i hate amd products,am a big fan except for its CPU that overheat a little bit
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Looks solid. Just get 16 GB of RAM if you can. You won't need the GTX 760 to build android from source; but I think you choose that part to do some gaming instead.
You might want a SSD as your boot drive. Using a SSD to store and compile android from source may not be the best idea as the entire process needs quite a bit of space. But hey, that's up to you to decide.
And uh for Linux distro to use, some suggestions are Elementary OS or Linux Mint. Recent Ubuntu (14.04) seems very strange to use. Then again, there's a lot of distros to choose from, so give them a try down the line.

Sorry for the late response, but thanks for the replies.
Right now im using xubuntu 14.04.
Im not very experienced but im learnin. Just learned how to build slim from source and im typing on the rom i built right now, its stock slim. Id like to learn how to cherry pic stuff so i can make it my own, then maybe one day be able to write my own source code.
So, I guess id use xubuntu, has worked so far. Unless theres a better suggestion or reason to use something ells.
I plan to piece this rig together over a month or two or however long it takes. I guess my budget is sorta endless, $1,000 is more than i would like to spend, but id like to have a pretty darn good rig. It doesnt have to be the absolute fastest computer in the world, but id like to be up there. Ive heard lots of good things about the gpu and cpu i picked and kinda set on it. Id maybe change to a cheaper i5 equivalent, i heard the i7 isnt a huge difference in gaming as most games dont utilize HT. But i assume it would help build roms.
So anyway, im ok with spending $800-$1,000 to have a great rig to start. But I always plan on adding to it. This list is just to get me going, first id maybe buy the MB, then the cpu, then the case, then maybe a 8gb stick of ram and a hdd etc.

In the end, id like to have at least 16gb of ram, dunno if more would make a difference
And have maybe 2 250gb ssd, one with windows 7 installed and the other with linux installed (dont know if thats possible) then 2 1tb 64mb hd's and another gpu, which i believe the mb i picked is not good for dual gpu's so i might need to find a different mb
Edit: well, now that i think about it. 2 250's might be over kill, maybe 2 80's or 64's just for the os
Anybody got any good suggestion s on ssd's? I heard they dont last very long without some tweaking. But, what are some dependable brands?

Create multiple partitions and dual boot lol

&& Yes you can put multiple SSD's with different OS on them. Ideally you want the OS on the SSD because they're extremely fast. Just get a high RPM HDD for storage tbh. I'm pretty sure mods will delete my link if I post one, so just Google newegg and see what they have to offer