How does running your phone with the charger affect the total battery lifespan/health? Is it better than running off the the battery and then re-charging? The same?
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DefyVictim said:
How does running your phone with the charger affect the total battery lifespan/health? Is it better than running off the the battery and then re-charging? The same?
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it is not good for the battery to leave it plugged in while using the phone, unless it is not full and needs to be charged.
the best life span will be achieved by keeping the charge between 10% and 90% if you are draining it a lot.
prolonged charging while using "can" lead to swelling and possible exploding or failure of the battery.
charging while using @ 100% causes repeated "top off" cycles. topping off is stressful on the battery, so doing it repeatedly is bad.
feel free to look at battery university, it will confirm what i said and then some.
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I heard that leaving the phone plugged in for a long time can affect the battery's performance. Is it bad for me to leave my phone plugged in for 24 hrs+?
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tjamzt said:
I heard that leaving the phone plugged in for a long time can affect the battery's performance. Is it bad for me to leave my phone plugged in for 24 hrs+?
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keeping an li-ion battery fully charged all the time is not so good for it, not because it can become "overcharged" but because your not using the battery it may suffer from capacity loss, the ideal environment for the battery would be to let it discharge to about 50-20% then charge it again till full at least once in a while so that it is maintaining its cycles and capacity. :good:
OK thanks.
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I always charge mine for a couple hours before I go to bed that way I don't leave it overcharging. Throw it in airplane mode and go to bed that way ur battery doesn't drain too much overnight.
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Also is it bad for the battery if you reboot a lot?
Pretty sure the phone's charge circuit isn't going to do anything to damage the battery. Once it's charged, it may go to a tiny maintenance trickle charge, but you will be fine. Rebooting also will just drain your battery, not damage it, as it uses a lot of CPU and I/O to get Android fully up and running.
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Also is it bad for the battery if you reboot a lot?
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Not bad for the battery but I guess you'll have to charge it again sooner
Nice thread on Li-Ion batteries http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
So on a daily basis I should run the battery down to about 20-40%, and then charge to 90-95%?
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tjamzt said:
So on a daily basis I should run the battery down to about 20-40%, and then charge to 90-95%?
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I run mine down to 5% and charge it to 100%
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it cuts off when its fully charged so i wouldnt worry, also you dont have to cycle charge li ion battery's even if you only run it down to 60% and charge it, it wont do it any harm, infact they like to be charged willy nilly as its keeps the ions jumping about or something, haha
So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
Always?
AshtonTS said:
Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
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Now is this ALWAYS the case?
To clarify what I am asking I am saying does it always harm the life of the lithium ion cell by letting die fully? Like even after 6 or 8 or 12 months of owing the phone (or any device), not just one the first charge. This could be very useful for further reference...:good:
There are some things can help increase life of litium batteries. First, don't let it go down to 0% as mentioned, keep not lower than 50%. Once per month it is recommended to discharge battery to 0% and then charge it to 100% again for device callibration.
This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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Yes yes!!
This happened too (as funny as it is) my grandma. She would ALWAYS have her little nnotebook plugged in and eventually it drained. I found out because one day I took it off the plug a d it died while I was on facebook after around 7 minutes.
So I bought a new battery and now she charfes iit and takes it off the plug to use it and twice a month she lets it die and it has worked
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1) don't keep live wallpapers
2) keep the brightness to the lowest possible
3) don't charge while playing games or even use the phone
4) don't use apps which run in the background and drain the batter
5) all the suggestions given in the above posts lol
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Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Charge it anytime you want.
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So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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It is true if you have a phone like Nokia 3310 if you do not have a NiMH battery do not do that you will lose time also you do not need to "format" a Li-Ion battery
read about lazy-battery effect on Wikipedia
rooting you phone to underclock/undervolt should also help out battery life pretty significantly ^_^
Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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This helps a lot than
ks. I think I am going to make a video on the stuff that has been shared on this thread. My YouTube is the same as my xda. Snipesome. I have 2600 subs and partnered. Is anyone more qualified who would like to mske it instead?
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Hello. My Moto G since I bought it has some major battery issues. It charges very slowly on the USB charger and a range of wall chargers. One night the phone turned itself off within 10 minutes of me putting it down from 35% battery to 0%. Then last night I was charging it and saw it go from 65% to fully charged in a split second. From the moment I unplug it after full charge, it will last 7 hours with moderate use. Mainly msging on whatsapp andbrowsing in chrome. So I do use it a lot in those hours whilst I'm out etc but it seems to drain whilst it's in my pocket with the screen off. The screen on time has never passed 3.5 hours with brightness on lowest.
I don't find that too bad but the random flash drainage and charging of the battery I have experienced is concerning. I mainly have 3G/H+ on and very few apps other than whatsapp and instagram plus chrome. I have tried a factory reset too. The battery usage stats is just my screen And the usual stuff.
I really think you should considering buying a new charger.
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If not a new charger, return it... :S
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Agreed, just return it, it's clearly faulty.
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Agreed, just return it, it's clearly faulty.
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It seems pretty common this battery issues with Moto G, i was considering buying one but now i'm not so sure..
Hmm, today I carged with iPad charger (2A) and after unplug, half hour later (autosync is disabled, no games, no music, no chat etc, all possible apps disabled, not rooted) checking once email the battery level was 87%.
Strange.
I read somewhere that charging at 2A well degrade the battery with the benefit of charging it faster. Is this true?
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shure2 said:
I read somewhere that charging at 2A well degrade the battery with the benefit of charging it faster. Is this true?
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There is current limiting built-in, with Li-ion so you won't damage or over-charge.
However, heat generated by long-term charging can degrade the battery....
See this:
Battery Charge Levels
Quite simply, it is not possible to overcharge a cell phone battery. However, leaving it plugged in for more that 24 hours can cause it to overheat, thereby shortening its overall lifespan. Most Li-ion batteries and chargers contain internal circuitry that stops the charging when it hits 100 percent, but always unplug it after long charging intervals, just to be safe.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/way_5296846_can-overcharge-cell-phone-battery.html#ixzz2nMs18x00
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Hi,
The battery in my moto g, the system oper. android drain a lot of % usage, 34% more than display in 6h usage.
In most cases this drain over 5 or 10% battery. What can be responsable for this consumption ?
my battery status:
5h usage - 32% screen (1h) sist oper.(35%) 4h
regards
Here is the full question: Does modern smartphones protect the battery making energy bypass baterry when it is full charged? (like most laptops do)
This is related to: is it bad to keep my phone plugged to the wall charged for 15 hours? is it true that doing this makes the baterry go 100%-99%-100% and it "drains" battery's life taking cycles?
Is this the same for all devices? I have a Samsung Galaxy S Advance (i9070)
Thanks!
EDIT: MODS, feel free to delete, i couldn't because there is not such option! I posted this in the wrong sections.
thanks.
The charging circuit lowers the charge to a trickle, to keep battery charged.
I find I can get an hour or two more phone time if I keep charging after it says 100%.
If every thing is working right you shouldn't damage the phone or battery.
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Subscribed to this thread as I am very interested in the answer myself.
It is float charging at that point. Battery levels are determined by the battery's voltage. A fully charged lithium ion battery sits at about 4.2 volts while a nearly drained one would sit at about 3.3 volts. This is how your phone knows when to stop charging the battery. So when it gets to the highest point, it stops and lets it trickle out a bit. Then when a little bit of energy has bled off, the charging circuitry kicks back on until it reaches the threshold again. Then the process repeats. It does this to maintain a healthy battery level without overcharging. Hope this helped
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It is float charging at that point. Battery levels are determined by the battery's voltage. A fully charged lithium ion battery sits at about 4.2 volts while a nearly drained one would sit at about 3.3 volts. This is how your phone knows when to stop charging the battery. So when it gets to the highest point, it stops and lets it trickle out a bit. Then when a little bit of energy has bled off, the charging circuitry kicks back on until it reaches the threshold again. Then the process repeats. It does this to maintain a healthy battery level without overcharging. Hope this helped
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Thanks for the information. Its very informative. :good:
Will constantly charging a phone result in reduced battery life?
Constantly charging a phone will not affect battery life because it's just float charging. Float charging keeps batteries charged but not too charged, drained but not too drained. Of course lithium ion batteries will just eventually wear out because they're good for about 300-400 full charge and discharge cycles. But that's FULL charging and discharging. If it's float charging, the battery will stay good for years.
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I read on a thread that this specific battery will lose a percentage of its capacity every time it's charged below 20% or above 80%, is this true? & if so or if not then what is the best way to charge the battery in this phone without deteriorating it?
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Everyone has their own opinion on this. Draining it below 10-20% could shorten the overall lifespan but I doubt the 80% or higher part you read is true. I personally charge mine every couple days and I'll still have about 30-40% left. I don't usually let it go lower than that. Rechargeable batteries like to be charged and killing them can damage them. Like a car battery, if it runs dead several times, it will most likely be ruined much earlier than if it wasn't ran dead. Just keep above 20% to be safe. Everyone's opinion of lowest percent is different.
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