So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
Always?
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Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
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Now is this ALWAYS the case?
To clarify what I am asking I am saying does it always harm the life of the lithium ion cell by letting die fully? Like even after 6 or 8 or 12 months of owing the phone (or any device), not just one the first charge. This could be very useful for further reference...:good:
There are some things can help increase life of litium batteries. First, don't let it go down to 0% as mentioned, keep not lower than 50%. Once per month it is recommended to discharge battery to 0% and then charge it to 100% again for device callibration.
This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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Yes yes!!
This happened too (as funny as it is) my grandma. She would ALWAYS have her little nnotebook plugged in and eventually it drained. I found out because one day I took it off the plug a d it died while I was on facebook after around 7 minutes.
So I bought a new battery and now she charfes iit and takes it off the plug to use it and twice a month she lets it die and it has worked
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1) don't keep live wallpapers
2) keep the brightness to the lowest possible
3) don't charge while playing games or even use the phone
4) don't use apps which run in the background and drain the batter
5) all the suggestions given in the above posts lol
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Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Charge it anytime you want.
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snipesome said:
So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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It is true if you have a phone like Nokia 3310 if you do not have a NiMH battery do not do that you will lose time also you do not need to "format" a Li-Ion battery
read about lazy-battery effect on Wikipedia
rooting you phone to underclock/undervolt should also help out battery life pretty significantly ^_^
Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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This helps a lot than
ks. I think I am going to make a video on the stuff that has been shared on this thread. My YouTube is the same as my xda. Snipesome. I have 2600 subs and partnered. Is anyone more qualified who would like to mske it instead?
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Related
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths
Also, make sure you read http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde... revolutionary, comparative, numeric results!
I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.
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I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.
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that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr
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that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr
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er.......what?
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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This is the exact opposite of what this article says.
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conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them
My battery only last 6 hours
Ugh, why don't people read the article BEFORE they comment?
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conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them
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Ehh, doesn't the charger uncharge when the battery is full? Like a safety thing?
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Some articles say that one battery life cycle is used up everytime when a full charge is done. Other articles say that one battery life cycle is used each the battery is connected to the charger.
I have not seen one article that shows the truth with facts.
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i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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No offence but I always found this to be stupid reasoning.
What if you leave home with a quarter full battery and you get caught in the middle of a natural disaster (earthquake as an extreme example) and need to keep in contact with rescuers after being stuck in a building for 2 days?
Personally, I always charge my phone/laptop whenever convenient.
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My battery only last 6 hours
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The only problem that your battery lasts only for 6 hours is due to too much charging...So when you will buy a new battery then make sure that only charge your battery when it will remain only 10%...And try to charge your battery with phone switched off..
Charge little and often, try to avoid deep discharge/charge cycles.
Back in the days of NiCd batteries there was the posibility of memory effect where if you didn't do a discharge/charge the battery wouldn't hold as much charge.
NiMH batteries do not suffer this, but discharge/charge cycles were required because when they started being used very few people had smart chargers so had to discharge to be able to time when to stop without overcharging, and also due to confused information pulled over from NiCds.
Top up charges are better for them too.
Lithium batteries also don't have memory effect, and are better off with top up charges.
Ask yourself this:
What would stress the battery more; running 1A through it for 10 minutes or 1 hour?
Also, as the battery discharges, its voltage drops so the current drain has to increase to compensate, discharging the battery even quicker (remember how capacity graphs drop off quickly?)
Say your phone needs 2W to run, with a 4v battery that's a drain of 500mA (P=VI)
When the battery has dropped to 3.5v then to produce 2W it takes approx 571mA.
batt problem
how to keep my batt good?
I've always just charged my phones overnight while I sleep. Never seen ill effects. If I don't make it home that night my phone still lasts through the next day.
It's not like that battery is irreplaceable. Go get a new one if your battery is nearing the end of it's life. By then you would have probably moved on to a new phone.
Rudegar said:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths
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skimmed a few parts, but thanks for the read mate, learned tons.
as others allready mentioned, there are many different suggestions how to take care of the battery. I usualy reload the baterry only if the capacity is <= 5%, without unpluging it before it reaches 100%.
thanks for the info!
Do i let the phone shut off from the battery reaching 0%, then charge it to 100% and be on my merry way?
I've read multiple theories, but I think u should take it down out of the box, then shut off and charge to full...I remember ASUS recommending that to a media outlet when the Transformer 300 came out a few weeks ago...so that is what I am going to do when I get mine.
Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.
Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.
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Be careful with how you charge the phone, rather with how low you let it get.
Depending on how technical you want to get about it purposefully letting a battery drop to absolute zero can cause some odd chemical reactions that while not immediately evident can some times shorten battery life.
I would recommend taking it out of the box and using it until it is low but not dead. Maybe 10 or so percent and then either turn it off and charge it or leave it on and charge it just do not pull the plug on the charger until it is at 100%.
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This.
Full battery cycles are not good for long term life of Li ion batteries.
Also, its unlikely, but occasionally happens where discharging the battery to shutoff will render the battery unable to take a charge. The safety circuit on the battery is supposed to prevent this, but its not failsafe. I've seen more than a few reports on previous HTC devices where this happened. And since the battery on the One X is not easily replaced, the result can be disastrous.
The battery meters on phones are not very accurate in the best of circumstances. No need to drain to shutoff, 10 or 20% is fine. No value added to draining to shutoff, and the consequences can be very bad.
Drain to 10% or even 20%, charge to full, repeat 2-3 times. This is done just to calibrate the battery meter on the phone. Its a misconception that you can somehow increase battery life by "conditioning" the battery. But modern Li ion batteries do not suffer from memory effects, and conditioning only works for older tech NiCad batteries.
I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally
Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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That stinks. It must have been on in the box like that other xda member on here claimed
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Mine came with 1% battery so I just turned it back off and now I'm charging it up, i think the led will turn green when it's ready
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How do you tell if the phone is charged to 100% while off?
While on, my battery percentage doesn't seem to go past 99%. Is that correct or is this last 1% just taking a very long time?
Update: NVM last 1% just took forever. LED does turn green when fully charged.
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The LED will turn green once it's 100%.
Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones
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Mine came dead! it didnt even turn on. so I'm charging it now
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Mine came dead too. Charged it to 100% and now been using it and so far have 36% on 3h 9m on battery.
Screen at 84%
Does the battery life get better? Because it seems to be draining rather quick. Even though I have screen brightness less than half.
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Thats exactly what I did, I let mine completely die and then charged to 100%.
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I do the same thing for all of my phones.
1. Activate and mess the heck out of it until it dies completely.
2. Charge it up to 100%
3. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
4. Charge it up to 100%
5. Mess the heck out of it again until it dies completely.
6. Charge it up to 100%
Then use it normally
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Don't worry about letting the phone die and charging it up to 100%.
These batteries don't have a "memory" like older phones
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@Maroon Mushroom, Correct these lithium batteries dont have memory effect, but over discharging them will shorten its life.
I dont want to sound like an expert, but discharging the battery until it dies is not recommended. It will affect battery life/performance.
A couple of good references here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/discharge_methods
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
Ya, we use Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) batteries now which dont have a memory. The older Lithium Polymer (Li-Pol) batteries did have a memory and needed a certain charge method to get the longes life cycle out of it.
Awesome, thanks everyone
I turned it off at 20% and wen't to go buy my MicroSIM (ugh...) cant wait to play with it tomorrow
Why would you buy it? Pretty sure they would give one to you for free
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bought it off Kijiji
It's offered by Rogers, but i'm on Telus
Hmm, i hate the idea of letting it die completely. But what i've always done is turned everything on and ran it through a low-powered usb source so it has a charge but the battery is still draining. So even if the battery runs dead it has power via USB plug [make sense?]. Usually having everything on [i do mean everything] and downloading a torrent so the internet is constantly under use. Then again i'm not sure how the One X will work out for this, but thats what i'm planning .
guys its lithium...u cant drain it to 0...even when android shuts down your at around 3.6volts. thats definetly not 0volts. no memory and android wont let you ruin your battery...so charge however whenever.
im qualified in lead acid. ni cad. nimh and lithium batteries. trust me..u cant hurt it unless you short it! !
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For MB865 in perticular :
1)What difference does it make if you charge from empty to 100% in switched off stage and the same in on state? Which is better?
2)How should we calibrate the battery and how often using which app for unrooted MB865 Asia retail?
3)Also if phone dies (switches off) constantly due to insufficient charge does it harm the battery in terms of cells getting destroyed gradually? Mine dies many times mostly in night due to day usage before I charge in the morning again.
4) Does switching off or switching on the phone while charging have any effect issue on phone or the battery??
Thanks in advance for inputs for all queries.
Calibrating the battery doesn't do anything. I wouldn't even mess with it. Every once in a while, charge your battery to 100% and use it til it dies without charging. That's about it. There isn't a whole lot you can do with you battery to make it better.
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Calibrating the battery doesn't do anything. I wouldn't even mess with it. Every once in a while, charge your battery to 100% and use it til it dies without charging. That's about it. There isn't a whole lot you can do with you battery to make it better.
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Thanks & I guess it covers #2 of my queries . Can't even begin to describe how much essential my Moto WPS-602-P893 external portable battery pack charger is. I have to add when I first unboxed my Atrix 2 last month (launched only recently in India) the first thing I did without switching it on, was put it on charge for straight 6-7 hours (as I remember having read somewhere that devices are charged 50% from the factory & the initial charge plays an important role in the future performance of the battery. 3G & GPS coupled with some gaming suck the battery dry pronto.
@tmease1 Are you sure? I have read and tested that resetting the battery calibrations in more accurate reporting of what apps are specifically draining your battery.
Charging when your phone is off just makes it charge faster, nothing else.
And from my knowledge of chemistry Lithium-ion batteries (the one in your phone) should not shouldn't be let reach a complete stage of discharge. (I can give you an explanation of you would like). Lithium-ion batteries are very flexible, they can be charged at any point in the cycle but again letting it completely discharge is to be avoided. It shortens the battery life by about half after a year.
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@tmease1 Are you sure? I have read and tested that resetting the battery calibrations in more accurate reporting of what apps are specifically draining your battery.
Charging when your phone is off just makes it charge faster, nothing else.
And from my knowledge of chemistry Lithium-ion batteries (the one in your phone) should not shouldn't be let reach a complete stage of discharge. (I can give you an explanation of you would like). Lithium-ion batteries are very flexible, they can be charged at any point in the cycle but again letting it completely discharge is to be avoided. It shortens the battery life by about half after a year.
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I might not be right. From my personal experience what i told him is how i run my phone. I use to be the king of trying out new things to improve battery life. I would try anything. I use to calibrate my battery after ever flash and honestly have not seen any difference since i stopped. You would think that calibrating it would do more harm than good after awhile. Google at one time said that it wasn't necessary. I don't really know for sure what to tell anyone to do. I gave up on battery up keep awhile ago. I got sick of messing with it and just carried an extra charger.
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Whenever I flash a different ROM I reset battery in CWM. Other than that, I'll run the battery down all the way at least once a month then recharge to 100%.
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Thanks for all your thoughts and inputs guys.
@Farshad could u please share method for resetting the battery calibration. Just want to give it a whirl to see my experience. I am unrooted on MB865.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with either side. But here is what Battery University says.
How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries - Battery University
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The smaller the depth of discharge, the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid frequent full discharges and charge more often between uses. If full discharges cannot be avoided, try utilizing a larger battery. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery.
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Also you actually cannot completely discharge li on batteries. Doing so royally screws them up. So devices now that use them have a circuit which kicks in when they reach a minimum level telling the device to shut off.
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Thanks for all your thoughts and inputs guys.
@Farshad could u please share method for resetting the battery calibration. Just want to give it a whirl to see my experience. I am unrooted on MB865.
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Yeah, all you have to do is boot into CWM. Go to advanced, and there should be an option to wipte battery stats. Alternatively you could download an app just search "battery stats wiper" or something of that sort in play store.
I've begun to get the impression that skyrocket users keep their phones unplugged all day even if a charger is available.
There are so many battery threads about how long it batteries are lasting.
I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
Gavin
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I've begun to get the impression that skyrocket users keep their phones unplugged all day even if a charger is available.
There are so many battery threads about how long it batteries are lasting.
I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
Gavin
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I plug it in at night and unplug it in the morning. A benefit of priapism. But I digress. I charge the phone overnight no matter what the charge level is. Simple and effective.
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I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
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Keeping your battery at 100% and/or on the charger as much as possible is a great way to ruin your battery.
When I was using my Rocket as my daily driver, I could get 30-36 hours out of a charge, so I wasn't draining it dry by leaving it unplugged all day. You'll find similar stories all over this forum, as the Skyrocket has some great ROMs that give it stellar battery life.
I usually keep it plugged at night unless I am using it to play to fall asleep
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Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life
Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because once the lithium-ion battery is full the charger discontinues charge and only engages when the battery voltage drops. Most users do not remove the AC power and I like to believe that this practice is safe.
I dont know how reliable the source is:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Battery life is one of my only complaints about the device. I don't know a ton of facts about batteries but I let it charge overnight and at most I can get about 7-8 hours of heavy use. If I don't charge my phone at school, it will be dead once I get home. I have used several different ROMs with varying battery lives. My brightness would always be on lowest, no live wallpapers, etc. CM10 got me about 5-6 heavy use. Slimbean got me about 4-5 heavy use. 4.1.2 deodexed touchwiz died in about two hours moderate use with only using to send a few texts and change phone settings. Now I've decided on Liquid Smooth
Which seems to get me 7-8 hours of heavy use. Of course these all weren't tested with the intention of finding the exact battery lives by using the same process on each phone, but I did get some knowledge of how different ROMs affect battery life. Now I'm waiting for AOSP 4.2 and I'll be trying that. I hope this helped.
Edit: Somehow misunderstood the subject of the thread. I don't intentionally drain mine daily and if it is at 100% then I take it off the charger until its about >70%
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Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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just charge it when it needs it, dont worry about what % its at, and dont worry about running them right down... the phone will power down before it gets to a dangerous level for the battery.
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100, dont leave it down at 0 and just forget about it for weeks on end...
thats all you need to know
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in fact... read here, and note the bit about wireless charging! http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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mitchdickson said:
Just enjoy your phone. Don't make it so difficult.
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THIS IS XDA...
I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.
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I suggest you lower your brightness to 0%, turn off the useless 3 cores, underclock to 100mhz, undervolt to 0.1v, turn off wifi/data/bt and be on airplane mode all the time and enjoy your month long battery life.
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Rofl
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I don't buy the bit about wireless charging. I've used my Nexus 4 with an LG wireless charger daily for almost a year now and haven't noticed any side effects with battery drain or overheating. In fact, I'd argue that the Nexus 4 and my Nexus 7 get hotter when plugged in than they do on the wireless charger. I have absolutely no reservations about using the Nexus 5 on my LG wireless charger when it arrives this week.
RotasOpera said:
Just curious how you handle this, because everybody says something different:
First use: completely charge the battery and then complete discharge, or first complete discharge and the full charge?
I also remember someone telling me that you shouldn't let your battery run completely empty, is that true?
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Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).
I just plug mine in whenever I'm near a charger.
I'm at work at my desk... its plugged into the charger.
I'm in my car... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at my girls house... its plugged into the charger.
I'm at home replying to xda / android central posts... its plugged into the charger.
This is what I've done with every phone I've had. I only had issues with one battery. I used to have sprint and I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic 4g Touch. After about 8 months the battery got fat (they said it was called a swollen battery at the sprint store) and it kept turning off. They gave me a new battery at the sprint store and I continued with my routine above and never had any other issues with it or any other phones.
drx895 said:
Well the charge and discharge isn't necessary, IIRC that's only for older battery technologies like Ni-Cd batteries (Nickel-Cadmium). On the other side, you probably shouldn't let it discharge all the way since these are Li-Po and it could shorten their lifespan (apparently).
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this is right on both accounts. you dont need to discharge it all the way, and doing so will reduce its life a little. i recently read about lithium poly batteries and the particular blog i was reading talked about running the battery down to 20% then charging it to 80%
i think when i first get the device i will use it down to 0%, charge it up to 100% uninterrupted and then hopefully keep it within that 20/80 range and probably doing a 0-100 refresh on the first of every month
If you guys want to read some in depth material on charging lithium batteries I would recommend reading this. Very informative.
dannstarr said:
dont leave it plugged in all the time when its sat at 100
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That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!
Salty Wagyu said:
That's actually the concerning part when I do overnight charging, it's sat at 100 for quite a while!
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It's fine. Phone manufacturers know that people charge their phones overnight. That's why there is a trickle charge mechanism built into all phones nowadays.
u have to calibrate the battery too
Over the last month I've had somewhat of a binge of buying phones from Amazon and returning them for one reason or another and I've noticed that the first 1-3 days of phone ownership are usually the toughest on the phone / battery.
I've owned over the last 2 months (in order):
- S4
- HTC One (x3 as 2 were faulty out the box)
- LG G2
- S4
- N5
I've decided on the N5 as being the best for a number of reasons, but my favourite is price.
I havn't worked out whether it's a combination of new phone = more usage or new phone = requires battery calibration. But the N5 is the only device out the major players that actually made it through day 2 (the day after it came out the box) without a charge midway, infact it's ONLY JUST gone on the charger after some 28 hours of moderate (3 1/2 hours screen on) usage.
My gut feeling is that once you're out the first week just use the damn thing, but the first few charges can make a difference to how quickly the battery feels calibrated. My N5 came with 50% charge out the box, I ran it down to 0% and topped up charge as much as I could the first day. Once I got home I once more let it 0% and then did a full 0-100% recharge. Then my 28 hour experiment started and now I'll just use it as normal, and not worry.
I keep brightness at 50% to enjoy this beauty and I do not give a single **** about the battery.
Charge battery between 20% - 80%
Do not use phone while charging
Unplug charger when battery full