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When should i replace the battery?

I am using p500 from one and half years and i use it heavily so i have to charge it every day. Now i feel that the battery has done his job
And now i am getting a poor battery life
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> how poor is it? about how many hours on normal usage? I use mine heavily on one day and it last 8-9hrs

I'm using my phone since 19 months and battery is fine heavy usage gets me 8-10 hrs battery while moderate gets about 24Hr and simple usage(just for call and msg) gets me more than 50hrs..

A Lithium-ion battery has normally 400-1200 charging cycles (Ref. Wiki).
Couple of things that shorten life span of a battery:
1) Complete discharging, it is recommended not to go below 20%
2) High temperature which implies that if you OC too much your device will heat up and battery life shortened
3) If you consume 50% of your device battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life. Constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can. (REF.)

My battery behaves in a funny way. With moderate use it dissipates very fast. and then if I keep screen off for more than 10 mins then my battery starts regenerating automatically(5-7%)

I noticed a few times, with some of the phones or devices I used to own, that if you, for example, after charging the phone, let's say play a graphics intensive 3D game for 15 minutes, the battery meter will drop quite a lot(e.g. 15%). But if you leave it on stand-by immediately, you will notice that after some time, the battery meter will indicate with 3-5-7% more than before.

My battery life is under 2 hours in 3g continues downloading!
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nundoo said:
I noticed a few times, with some of the phones or devices I used to own, that if you, for example, after charging the phone, let's say play a graphics intensive 3D game for 15 minutes, the battery meter will drop quite a lot(e.g. 15%). But if you leave it on stand-by immediately, you will notice that after some time, the battery meter will indicate with 3-5-7% more than before.
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I have also faced this but differently
At night my phone's battery was 78
And at the morning i got 82 %!!
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nomancoolboy said:
I am using p500 from one and half years and i use it heavily so i have to charge it every day.
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I think it's "normal" to charge it every day!! if you use it!! i charge it at least one time a day..

Lithium battery's do last a long time but they do loose there charge and become weak. After a year and a half I would defiantly consider buying a new battery. I wouldn't recommend the cheap $3.00 battery's but I would look on eBay or amazon and find a stock o.e.m battery. Brand battery's are more expensive but last probably 3-5 times longer then cheap battery's. I've read and heard that lithium battery's are not suppose to get hot but they can get warm, if the battery gets hot then it can destroy the battery and won't hold a charge as long as it should.
It also depends on what ROM you are running and what applications you are running, all that can add up and drain your battery fast. I would change a battery on a phone about 5-7 months or maybe even up to a year. Depends on your budget and what you can afford. hope this helps
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myawan said:
A Lithium-ion battery has normally 400-1200 charging cycles (Ref. Wiki).
Couple of things that shorten life span of a battery:
1) Complete discharging, it is recommended not to go below 20%
2) High temperature which implies that if you OC too much your device will heat up and battery life shortened
3) If you consume 50% of your device battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life. Constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can. (REF.)
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Lg p500 battery have only 500 cycle times of life .
Btw,try to flash stock/gsnap 2.2 rom.
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My battery behaves in a funny way. With moderate use it dissipates very fast. and then if I keep screen off for more than 10 mins then my battery starts regenerating automatically(5-7%)
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Reset battery stats in recovery.
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Charging strategy for Note 10.1 Is there an auto hibernate?

So I'm starting to remember how weird the charging of Note 10.1 is. I left it chargong for a couple hours and it barely charged, course it was on.
Do people "Power off" there notes before they charge it, or just plug it in and walk away?
Is there an app or some setting to auto "hibernate" or even shut off when it gets plugged in and not used? Just seems like an annoying habit to have to power it off regularly.

Note take a long long time to charge 5 - 7 hours for a full charge.

I always care mine while on, usually wifi and it charges from 20% to full in about 5 hours using AC. If you're charging via USB and it's powered on it will barely charge (its charging at 1/4 the current).
If you're using AC and it's still taking that long, you must have a battery hungry app running, try killing a) apps before you charge.
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mine usually takes 5-6 hours to get fully recharged from 15-20%

I usually just leave on in the night. Wake up and it's fully charged.
Deep Grey 16GB N8013

any "speed charger" option? 6hr sounds ridiculous, particular if it's used heavily on the go ...

You're talking about 7000mah of raw power. So this takes some time to charge...this is just plain physics
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You may be able to charge faster, I know there's a fix for the SGS3 but faster charging causes more heat which will kill your battery VERY quickly...
Unlike the SGS3 you can't just get a replacement battery and swap out easily... Slower charging will maximise your batteries life....

Yep, forget about charging quickly. The battery is high capacity so it should take maximum 5 hours. It may charge faster with a different adapter but that will shorten your battery life in the long run. If you want, you can buy a battery pack type portable charger I guess...

mailxd said:
any "speed charger" option? 6hr sounds ridiculous, particular if it's used heavily on the go ...
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As everyone else has mentioned. Charge it at night.

Is it safe to charge the battery overnight?

Is it safe to charge the battery overnight?
I mean, charging more than 100%, charging over the 3-4 hours needed, charging for 7-8 hours..

I think it won't effect it cuz i charge my phone from overnight too.nothing happens.

when battery gets full it stops charging after that

Of course
I've been doing that for a year.
Usually my battery reaches 10% at the end of the day, then I just leave it charging over night.

Thanks, i've been doing it since I bought the phone but I've never really cared until now..

Do you guys turn off the phone before charging overnight?

No. I don't know how does it affect the quality/capacity of battery though!
I remember as a kid I had those RC-cars and there were always warnings about how it will 'destroy' the battery if it is charged for too long. lol.
I don't have any battery problems.
Just make sure your LED isn't turned on!
I once forgot it on overnight...
It's a little dimmer now. :c

They said once it reachs 100% to stop charging. It can have an negative impact on your battery. Lithium technology or not. But I do it too. I think it just shorten the life span on a slow scale.
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info[]box1 said:
They said once it reachs 100% to stop charging. It can have an negative impact on your battery. Lithium technology or not. But I do it too. I think it just shorten the life span on a slow scale.
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Here is the thing...
Yes the phone has a voltage shut off when it reached 100%.
However, it will start to drain battery immediately once it cuts off charging. Even when idle with teh screen off it uses some power. And once it drops to 99% it will start charging again until it reached 100%.
Depending on your set up and how much the phone runs when idle it would keep 'topping off' the battery several times overnight. This is harsh on the battery.
So it's not like once it cuts off charging it stays off until it's unplugged and replugged in. It'll keep charging everytime it drops to 99%

Read this.
http://www.strumerjohn.com/apps/blog/show/32094931-how-your-smartphone-battery-works
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Depletion time on battery - turbo charged vs normal charger

This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.

I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...

Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..

I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?

I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.

I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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jmtjr278 said:
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.

devsk said:
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.

My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.

Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.

I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.

Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?

After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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joshw0000 said:
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.

I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.

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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.

will using the 6x while charging does any harm ??

can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..

I don't know about harming the port but, it will definitely hurt the battery, So I don't recommend doing this except when it is an emergency

mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
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Note 3 was launched 4 years ago. Battery would have gone bad, you would have noticed the degradation.
In some phones, especially those which charge very fast, the temperature can rise to a high level which reduces the life of the battery, but should not impact much if you are using a phone for 1-3 years. Though one needs to stop charging / using the phone if the temperature reaches very high (say above 60 degree Celsius).
Honor 6X charges very slowly while using and the temperature doesn't rise as much (as compared to other phones), hence that impact is likely going to be lower.

Generally it's not a good idea to use whil charging all the time.

I strongly suggest you to use the phone while is under charge the less that you can, especially being careful about using it in combination with mobile data/GPS services/internet browsing and apps that requires particularly usage of RAM. This because the li-polymer battery plugged on charge with the original charger of 6X, that supports fast charge and so will "push" inside it a stronger power than a normal charger, will almost immediately reach a voltage of 4.1-4.2V to ensure the fast charge service and this is the limit that you want to maintain for being sure that the battery will last the longest time. Using it under charge with mobile data or others mentioned above, will easily overcome the 4.2V limit to 4.3V or even more, depending on what you'll be using, and so the ions capacity will be reduced faster, letting them contain less energy than the original capacity while time passes by.

mahrukhsa2 said:
can using the phone while charging can harm charging port or battery ? im asking this because i was using some days ago my galaxy note 3 like this one day and it stopped charging and was dead..
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i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
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arshilhonor6x said:
i prefer not using phone while charging i think it affects battery life
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It definitely does hurt the battery.
I try to never use it, except when in emergency

It doesn't but thats not a good practice in general. With continuous usage, it may get more heated that is not good for battery, phone and eventually you.
Because charging itself will hear up the phone and using it may increase further so avoid it buddy.

https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery

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https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/...-iphone-overnight-doesnt-destroy-the-battery/
Myth Debunked: Why Charging Your iPhone Overnight Doesn't Destroy The Battery
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Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run

shashank1320 said:
Agreed. Charging phone for long time may impact the battery health in long run
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I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:

jerryhou85 said:
I always charge my phone overnight for these years and nothing happens... maybe I switch phones too fast to notice battery issue... :silly:
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Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.

shashank1320 said:
Hehe may be. I will take time to charge in morning or in night during dinner for 20-40% and then in morning for another 40-50% or if wake up early then may be i charge full 100%. Anything above 80 ia good for entire if couldn't charge full still have 20-30% left when reach home in night.
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Almost the same here; i limit the charge to 80% with Battery Charge Limit, i wake up at morning with 79-78%, i go at work and when i come back at evening usually i have around 55-60% left due various jumps here on XDA, internet browsing, some calls and a few messages. When i go to bed i plug in the phone just for a mid-hour so it can reach 80% again, then i remove it from charge and so on.