I am using p500 from one and half years and i use it heavily so i have to charge it every day. Now i feel that the battery has done his job
And now i am getting a poor battery life
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> how poor is it? about how many hours on normal usage? I use mine heavily on one day and it last 8-9hrs
I'm using my phone since 19 months and battery is fine heavy usage gets me 8-10 hrs battery while moderate gets about 24Hr and simple usage(just for call and msg) gets me more than 50hrs..
A Lithium-ion battery has normally 400-1200 charging cycles (Ref. Wiki).
Couple of things that shorten life span of a battery:
1) Complete discharging, it is recommended not to go below 20%
2) High temperature which implies that if you OC too much your device will heat up and battery life shortened
3) If you consume 50% of your device battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life. Constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can. (REF.)
My battery behaves in a funny way. With moderate use it dissipates very fast. and then if I keep screen off for more than 10 mins then my battery starts regenerating automatically(5-7%)
I noticed a few times, with some of the phones or devices I used to own, that if you, for example, after charging the phone, let's say play a graphics intensive 3D game for 15 minutes, the battery meter will drop quite a lot(e.g. 15%). But if you leave it on stand-by immediately, you will notice that after some time, the battery meter will indicate with 3-5-7% more than before.
My battery life is under 2 hours in 3g continues downloading!
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nundoo said:
I noticed a few times, with some of the phones or devices I used to own, that if you, for example, after charging the phone, let's say play a graphics intensive 3D game for 15 minutes, the battery meter will drop quite a lot(e.g. 15%). But if you leave it on stand-by immediately, you will notice that after some time, the battery meter will indicate with 3-5-7% more than before.
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I have also faced this but differently
At night my phone's battery was 78
And at the morning i got 82 %!!
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nomancoolboy said:
I am using p500 from one and half years and i use it heavily so i have to charge it every day.
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I think it's "normal" to charge it every day!! if you use it!! i charge it at least one time a day..
Lithium battery's do last a long time but they do loose there charge and become weak. After a year and a half I would defiantly consider buying a new battery. I wouldn't recommend the cheap $3.00 battery's but I would look on eBay or amazon and find a stock o.e.m battery. Brand battery's are more expensive but last probably 3-5 times longer then cheap battery's. I've read and heard that lithium battery's are not suppose to get hot but they can get warm, if the battery gets hot then it can destroy the battery and won't hold a charge as long as it should.
It also depends on what ROM you are running and what applications you are running, all that can add up and drain your battery fast. I would change a battery on a phone about 5-7 months or maybe even up to a year. Depends on your budget and what you can afford. hope this helps
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myawan said:
A Lithium-ion battery has normally 400-1200 charging cycles (Ref. Wiki).
Couple of things that shorten life span of a battery:
1) Complete discharging, it is recommended not to go below 20%
2) High temperature which implies that if you OC too much your device will heat up and battery life shortened
3) If you consume 50% of your device battery on day 1, recharge to 100% at night, and do the same thing on day 2, then you would have just finished up one charge cycle of its battery life. Constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Hence constantly recharging a lithium ion battery does not shorten the battery life more than normal usage would. Avoid letting it sit on empty for too long; instead, keep it charged-up if you can. (REF.)
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Lg p500 battery have only 500 cycle times of life .
Btw,try to flash stock/gsnap 2.2 rom.
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My battery behaves in a funny way. With moderate use it dissipates very fast. and then if I keep screen off for more than 10 mins then my battery starts regenerating automatically(5-7%)
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my last g2x battery lasted like 4 hrs on a full charge what is the best way to charge the new one? do i let the battery run out then charge it?
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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That's not really accurate. Lithium Ion batteries have no memory effect like older batteries so charging them from halfway full does not reduce the maximum capacity.
What happens is the phone needs to learn to measure the amount of mAh from the phone and recognize what battery % that means. By taking the phone through the full discharging and charging cycle, the battery drivers pick up on this and will better report the battery level. With a poorly calibrated battery, you do not get less battery, but instead you just will not see accurate information about the charge level. For example, my first discharge went quickly to about 10%, and even quickly below 5%, but stayed on for hours between 5% to eventually shutting off.
The battery still will not die faster, but my phone thought it was much lower than it was, giving it the appearance of dying faster. Point is, you can do the charge/discharge cycle whenever, not just the first time, and it won't effect your long term battery health.
1) do factory reset
2) drain completely
3) charge completely
thanks!
thanks everyone for your advice!
I think it really depends on who you ask. lol Some people will say let it drain first then charge it fully. I have read info on battery maker sites that suggest when you get their battery that you let it charge fully for at least 8 hours, then let it discharge fully. They say to do this the first 5 charges to increase battery life.
When I get a new phone or battery that's what I do. as soon as I get it I charge it up overnight, then let it discharge completely for the first 5 charges. I can only speak by my experience and my experience tells me it makes a difference. Here is my reasoning: me and my ex gf went one day to get new phones. We got the same phone. She started using hers as soon as we left the store. I waited. I charged it up overnight fully and did the conditioning procedure. Our phones were pretty much mirrors of each other app and software wise. Her battery would die out a couple of hours before mine. Battery usage also didnt report any HUGE differences in consumption .
Also every once and a while I go into Clockwork recovery and wipe battery stats(after it's been fully discharged) and re do the conditioning process. It might just be a mental thing, but for me this seems to work
supposedly from htc.....
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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This is "more" true for everyday normal usage. Yes, you shouldn't constantly fully charge and fully discharge every time you use your phone. But for battery calibration it is necessary/beneficial.
I also hard that during the first charge after turning the phone off you have to strange on your head for ten minutes, then only use your left hand for the rest of the day and you will double your battery life
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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Well I did it this way too. I get good batt
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I go out at night mostly so by the time i leave the house my phones battery is about 75% full. I have the LG G2x. My question is sometimes before i leave i'll see that it's 75% full so i'll charge it back to 100% before i leave. Does charging the phone without it being drained damage the battery? should i just leave it alone next time i go out? sorry if this is already a thread just point me in the right direction.
Thanks.
You're not damaging your battery But if you never drain the battery completely, i'm not sure how good the battery will be after 6 month, so i recommend you drain it completely every couple of weeks.
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There are several opinions about keeping battery health for more time. Recharging at 75% is not one of them, but it's not the worth of it.
Here's what i know and what i've heard:
* some manufacturers (laptops) have software that don't allow the battery to charge when it's over 80 to 90% - they say it helps on battery life
* it's common sense that you should recharge when you have 20 - 40% and do a full cycle once in a while (this is what i do)
In my opinion, charging only 25% of the charge in a regular basis will not really help to keep battery life...
I've personally had the best performance from batteries when I let them discharge as much as possible and then charge them to full without interruption.
some have also said that draining the battery too often can also damage it, is this correct?
They like to be ran down then recharged but not all the way down to nothing unless you are having a problem with bat life on a rom
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some have also said that draining the battery too often can also damage it, is this correct?
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Yes. You should not drain your battery all the time. Use normally, charge it when below 40% and yes, charge it back to full - that's the ideal thing.
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Yes. You should not drain your battery all the time. Use normally, charge it when below 40% and yes, charge it back to full - that's the ideal thing.
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+1 that is the best way. Li-on batteries should'n be drained completly because it can shorten their life.
I read somewhere that it is not important when you start charging your battery (20%, 60%...) but it's important that it finishes to charge up to 100% every time
I heard/read that LI-ION batter is good to charge when cap goes bellow 30%.
I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
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I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
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Try "Battery Calibration" from the market. It will clear out your old battery stats and shows you the correct battery charge. Follow these steps:
1. Download and install "Battery Calibration"
2. Charge your phone to 100%
3. Without unplugging, press the "Calibrate" button in the app
4. After calibrating is done, unplug the phone
5. Use the phone till it drains out to 0% and turns off
6. Charge it to 100% without a break
Now your phone should show you the correct battery stats. This app is a must-have if you've flashed a new ROM onto your phone. But you can use it to calibrate your battery whenever you feel that it is not reflecting the correct charge.
Or if you have CWM recovery installed, just boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats when ur battery is at 100% and still plugged in.
People.... he is NOT asking about the calibration nonsense (pure placebo, the apps do not do anything useful). He wants to know the nominal vs. current capacity, i.e. the wear level.
@OP: Sorry, neither do I. Maybe the info is just not accessible by SW.
I just want an app that shows me the % used / hour.
bump! i want this app to show wear and tear? anyone? or should i google it :lol:
Battery charging and wear levelling
newklear85 said:
I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
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Actually, it is hard to tell the battery charging and weal levelling. It may vary due to the usage, temperature, environment variables (humidity etc) and the ROM too.
I don't that there is such applications available in market.
Google play only lists the apps which is showing the battery charged/remaining percentage only.
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Junior Einstein said:
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Not necessary. I charge twice a day and my battery lasted for the last 2 years.
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Everyone email snapdragon devs to have them incorporate battery information on weartear. N cycle counts into that app
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i'm also
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
doctor83 said:
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
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Have u tried snap dragon app?
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Junior Einstein said:
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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gonna call bull on these numbers - I've had my phone for near 3 years. There's times it gets charged 3 times a day when being used heavily and times it can go 48 hours or longer before it needs to be charged. I have not noted any decrease in the time it holds a charge. I think there are too many factors that can impact battery life to say there is a set number of charging cycles it can handle.
Which means unless you had something installed to measure the battery right from the first charge you aren't going to find an app that can tell you what you want as there is no way for it to go back in time and tell you what the original numbers were.
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I would also like to know how much wear my battery has.
I had a DROID 3 and I had terrible battery life and when I replaced the battery the phone ran like new, it was great. In that case I was sure the battery was old at that point so now I want to know if I should do the same for my DROID 4 however the process is definitely more involved so I wanted to know if it was possible beforehand to see if it is worth it
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There is a plethora of such programs for windows, like this one :
http://batterycare.net/en/images.html
we are looking for the same thing for Android
It would be especially useful since some battery will last longer then others...
Some battery will still have 85% of their design capacity after 900 cycles..
Others are at 50% after 300 cycles.. a 3000 mAh battery is now a 1500mAh one...
Depends fron the battery cell origin and quality.. japanese cell are the best
Also very useful to check if the replacement battery you purchased is holding the advertised charge...
Is it even possible to get that info out from a cellular battery?? They are much smaller, perhaps they dont have the required circuitry.
Any news about a battery that would do that (indicate battery wear level) for Android in 2015 ?
I would love to check by battery wear level as well.
I have a Nexus 7 2013 and am wondering if a new battery would be worth it yet.
Ok guys, so recently I'm starting to use my smarthphone ( xperia ray ) to do lots of things and one of it is as my Agenda. Now the real problem is, every time my phone is running out of battery I must charged it ( obviously -.- )
And everytime I charged it I always shut it down because people say that it's better to shut i down so the battery will have a long life
Can you guys tell me how to take good care of a battery ? And is it true what I said ?
( Sorry for my english -.- ):fingers-crossed:
I don't really think that offline charging will have any impact on battery life.
Anyway, from my experience the best way to conserve your battery health is to charge it in full cycles. That means not to charge it when it's on 40% but let it drain to almost empty or empty and then let it charge until it's full.
Your battery life will become worse with time. That's how rechargeable batteries work. Every battery type (Ni-MH, Ni-Cd, Li-ion etc.) has a different amout of recharge it can take. It won't recharge fine 100000 times and then after the 100001st time "die". It's life gradually shortens.
That being said, if you haven't used a phone/battery for a long period of time, it is always wise to drain it totally and charge it full for 4-5 times and then you will notice an improvement in battery life.
Also lower your display brightness. Display is eating most battery power, especially if you're using your phone a lot
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I don't really think that offline charging will have any impact on battery life.
Anyway, from my experience the best way to conserve your battery health is to charge it in full cycles. That means not to charge it when it's on 40% but let it drain to almost empty or empty and then let it charge until it's full.
Your battery life will become worse with time. That's how rechargeable batteries work. Every battery type (Ni-MH, Ni-Cd, Li-ion etc.) has a different amout of recharge it can take. It won't recharge fine 100000 times and then after the 100001st time "die". It's life gradually shortens.
That being said, if you haven't used a phone/battery for a long period of time, it is always wise to drain it totally and charge it full for 4-5 times and then you will notice an improvement in battery life.
Also lower your display brightness. Display is eating most battery power, especially if you're using your phone a lot
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Thx man !!! You helped me a lot
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Never over charge,like after charing 100%also never plug in to current,as it bring downs the battery performance later.....
I have wasted my 2 mobiles battery in same way.
I even fear for battery bust!
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Battery life is affected by temperature, so try not to let your phone stay at high temperatures for too long
sanjaykumar.sanjay69 said:
Never over charge,like after charing 100%also never plug in to current,as it bring downs the battery performance later.....
I have wasted my 2 mobiles battery in same way.
I even fear for battery bust!
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You can't overcharge your battery, that's a myth. It charges to 100% and then it stops charging, even if it's still connected to a power source. It starts charging again when it drops to 95% (hence why you sometimes see "97% Not charging" on your phone).
And yes, in some cases temperature can affect battery life but usually only in short-term. Still, it's a good idea not to leave the phone in direct sun in the summer or in your car in the summer. Extremely cold temperatures can affect its life too. Most batteries actually have written on them what temperatures they can withstand.
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So my maxx will drain to 1% battery in about 3 days with 3 hours screen time. The thing is once I hit 1% it can stay on 1% and not shut off for hours. Right now its been on 1% for about 7 hours, I have a youtube video going just to see how much longer it will go. Its been playing a youtube video now for about 20 min on 1%.
I just got this phone last week, is this because the system hasn't fully calibrated the battery? Or is the battery defective in some way? Its kind of annoying because you think you are out of battery but it keeps going so I don't really know how much battery I have.
Definitely not normal. I'd do a factory reset to eliminate a software issue and if the issue persists seems like it must be a hardware issue, exchange it
These sound like calibration issues. Can you fully charge your battery and then leave in on the charger for awhile -- like an hour or more? That should calibrate it correctly.
I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
I do not have any real evidence except i've gotten exceptional battery life with my Ultra after allowing a full cycle (draining all the way and then fully charging while powered down)...i have gotten just under 32 hours with 4 hours and some odd minutes screen on with about an hour of voice calls and random other usage such as tapatalk browsing, internet, texting and maybe some email or youtube....i occasionally play some games like the new CoD Strike Force
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
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The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life, other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery once in a while.
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doogald said:
The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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And boom! All the I have known through all the androids I have has been wrong lmao. I really appreciate you posting this....all the years of trolling forums and reading what everyone is doing or have done to get their battery to last long for a daily cycle...appreciate this.
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So happy I seldom charge up to 100% and leave it sit. I also never let it get super low.
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Coming from a Gnex, I have a charger within 3 feet of me everywhere I go. I'm trying to break myself of the habit of plugging it in but mine still gets a charge at some point during the day, if only in the car. It has always been my practice to let my phones run down almost to dead maybe once every couple of months. I feel like it keeps the phone's battery meter calibrated although I have nothing to base this on.
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