I read on a thread that this specific battery will lose a percentage of its capacity every time it's charged below 20% or above 80%, is this true? & if so or if not then what is the best way to charge the battery in this phone without deteriorating it?
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Everyone has their own opinion on this. Draining it below 10-20% could shorten the overall lifespan but I doubt the 80% or higher part you read is true. I personally charge mine every couple days and I'll still have about 30-40% left. I don't usually let it go lower than that. Rechargeable batteries like to be charged and killing them can damage them. Like a car battery, if it runs dead several times, it will most likely be ruined much earlier than if it wasn't ran dead. Just keep above 20% to be safe. Everyone's opinion of lowest percent is different.
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People keep telling me that its always beneficial to completely discahrge my phone battery and then do a full charge with no interruptions.
But then there are people that tell me to NOT completely discharge it as that'll ruin the battery.
What do you guys think?
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Well I believe that with lithium ion batteries, that you should NEVER let them run out of juice completely or you will damage them. Nickel-hydride or something batteries are the ones you should discharge completely to avoid the battery memory effect. So my conclusion is, do not discharge completely. Lithium ions are more flexible when it comes to charging. I personally run my battery down to like 10 percent then charge it. It makes me feel like my battery is preforming well
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It is all about charge cycles. They have so many cycles, as in... Charging from dead to full. Now if you use your device down to say 60% and recharge then the next day do charge down to 40% and back up that is ONE charge cycle.
So the more you keep the device at 100% the better you are for longevity.
Wow and I've always been thinking that its a really good time to completely drain it. Going to stop that from now on.
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The less percentage you have to charge is directly proportional to longevityof the battery.
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It is all about charge cycles. They have so many cycles, as in... Charging from dead to full. Now if you use your device down to say 60% and recharge then the next day do charge down to 40% and back up that is ONE charge cycle.
So the more you keep the device at 100% the better you are for longevity.
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perfectly put. In fact I'm just going to quote this from now on when people ask this question.
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titanshadow said:
It is all about charge cycles. They have so many cycles, as in... Charging from dead to full. Now if you use your device down to say 60% and recharge then the next day do charge down to 40% and back up that is ONE charge cycle.
So the more you keep the device at 100% the better you are for longevity.
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The heat will also play a factor in the life of your battery.
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Klathmon said:
perfectly put. In fact I'm just going to quote this from now on when people ask this question.
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I should note, I pulled it off Apples website on batteries.
I.R.Chevy said:
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The heat will also play a factor in the life of your battery.
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You are absolutely right. Keep devices out of the sun and if you have a device you aren't going to use for a month or more streight you should keep it refrigerated but not frozen.
titanshadow said:
It is all about charge cycles. They have so many cycles, as in... Charging from dead to full. Now if you use your device down to say 60% and recharge then the next day do charge down to 40% and back up that is ONE charge cycle.
So the more you keep the device at 100% the better you are for longevity.
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bundles of thanks for the nice info...
So I just started using Matr1x kernel and it has to be the best I've seen so far. But I'm wondering about the battery life extender in nstools. Like say if I set it to 110% battery it will charge to 110 giving me extra battery? Is there any harm done by doing this? Tell me exactly how this works
All I know is it limits the charge level of the battery. You can't charge a phone battery past 100%. That's dangerous. The Nexus charges to about 96%. Anything that posts 100% charge is purely cosmetic.
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chronophase1 said:
All I know is it limits the charge level of the battery. You can't charge a phone battery past 100%. That's dangerous. The Nexus charges to about 96%. Anything that posts 100% charge is purely cosmetic.
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So your saying for the best of my battery life i should set it to 96% limit?
Your idea was.... no offense, kinda funny, it's just like you have a cup that has capacity of 500 ml, can you put 550 ml water in it?
And by battery life it means battery's physical life, not mobile use time.
As for a Li-ion battery, charge to fully 100% or deplete to 0% will reduce its capacity, and this mod was meant to set Max charge under 100%, for me I usually set to 97%, actually as I have 3 battery, I can even make it 95%
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So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
Always?
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Yeah running it fully out of battery like that harms the life of the lithium ion cell
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Now is this ALWAYS the case?
To clarify what I am asking I am saying does it always harm the life of the lithium ion cell by letting die fully? Like even after 6 or 8 or 12 months of owing the phone (or any device), not just one the first charge. This could be very useful for further reference...:good:
There are some things can help increase life of litium batteries. First, don't let it go down to 0% as mentioned, keep not lower than 50%. Once per month it is recommended to discharge battery to 0% and then charge it to 100% again for device callibration.
This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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This is a good question. I always thought that by discharging and charging batteries at full cycles, you would make their total useful life last longer.
In fact, this happened to me with a notebook, which I used to play with and charging at the same time. In the end, the battery lasted for a few minutes and I had to sell it.
But in all: is this really true? I would also like to know if is truth or myth.
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Yes yes!!
This happened too (as funny as it is) my grandma. She would ALWAYS have her little nnotebook plugged in and eventually it drained. I found out because one day I took it off the plug a d it died while I was on facebook after around 7 minutes.
So I bought a new battery and now she charfes iit and takes it off the plug to use it and twice a month she lets it die and it has worked
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1) don't keep live wallpapers
2) keep the brightness to the lowest possible
3) don't charge while playing games or even use the phone
4) don't use apps which run in the background and drain the batter
5) all the suggestions given in the above posts lol
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Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Allanitomwesh said:
Don't let it die to zero.
When it warns you at 15% just charge it.
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Sir i just want to ask If we charge our battery even if its above 20% or if the battery icon is not yet colored red will it affect our battery life in the future? Or we should only charge our battery when it is below 20-15% ?
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Charge it anytime you want.
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So I just got my galaxy s3. I haven't turned it on yet. But I heard that you were supposed to charge it fully and then let it die. Then charge it fully again and then start using it. That when. Doing this you will optimize your battery so it will charge faster, hold a charge faster, and just last longer.
Is this myth or fact? And if fact how do I do the steps so I get it right?
Thanks for the help and sorry for any mistakes it was typed on my phone that has aa small touchscreen.
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It is true if you have a phone like Nokia 3310 if you do not have a NiMH battery do not do that you will lose time also you do not need to "format" a Li-Ion battery
read about lazy-battery effect on Wikipedia
rooting you phone to underclock/undervolt should also help out battery life pretty significantly ^_^
Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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Lithium ion cells do not suffer from the "memory" effect as older rechargeable batteries. You do not have to let the battery run all the way down then fully charge it again to get the best performance that way, that was for the older types of batteries (again so you wouldn't get that "memory" effect) matter of fact its rather harmful to the battery to run it all the way down.
Charge the battery as often as you want no matter at what level it is. If you are going to do some high power **** (play a game, watch a movie) then plug it if if you have a charger around. The longer the battery stays at a high level the better for it. Try not to let your battery run your phone at a low state (charge it asap). Its ok to leave it on the charger even after its fully charged. Your phone and charger are smart enough to know when to start/stop charging the battery. This will ensure a long life for your battery.
...as for your phone...simple rules...if you are not using it( DATA, WIFI, GPS, SYNC, BLUETOOTH) then turn it off. Screen is the biggest battery drainer...KEEP IT ON AUTO!...darker themes really help alot...make your screen go off at 30 sec. or less. Have fun with your new phone homie.
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This helps a lot than
ks. I think I am going to make a video on the stuff that has been shared on this thread. My YouTube is the same as my xda. Snipesome. I have 2600 subs and partnered. Is anyone more qualified who would like to mske it instead?
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I've begun to get the impression that skyrocket users keep their phones unplugged all day even if a charger is available.
There are so many battery threads about how long it batteries are lasting.
I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
Gavin
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pilotgav said:
I've begun to get the impression that skyrocket users keep their phones unplugged all day even if a charger is available.
There are so many battery threads about how long it batteries are lasting.
I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
Gavin
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I plug it in at night and unplug it in the morning. A benefit of priapism. But I digress. I charge the phone overnight no matter what the charge level is. Simple and effective.
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pilotgav said:
I'm just wondering- aren't we supposed to keep the batteries as fully charged s practical s often as practical and only completely drain and recharge once a month or so?
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Keeping your battery at 100% and/or on the charger as much as possible is a great way to ruin your battery.
When I was using my Rocket as my daily driver, I could get 30-36 hours out of a charge, so I wasn't draining it dry by leaving it unplugged all day. You'll find similar stories all over this forum, as the Skyrocket has some great ROMs that give it stellar battery life.
I usually keep it plugged at night unless I am using it to play to fall asleep
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Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life
Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because once the lithium-ion battery is full the charger discontinues charge and only engages when the battery voltage drops. Most users do not remove the AC power and I like to believe that this practice is safe.
I dont know how reliable the source is:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Battery life is one of my only complaints about the device. I don't know a ton of facts about batteries but I let it charge overnight and at most I can get about 7-8 hours of heavy use. If I don't charge my phone at school, it will be dead once I get home. I have used several different ROMs with varying battery lives. My brightness would always be on lowest, no live wallpapers, etc. CM10 got me about 5-6 heavy use. Slimbean got me about 4-5 heavy use. 4.1.2 deodexed touchwiz died in about two hours moderate use with only using to send a few texts and change phone settings. Now I've decided on Liquid Smooth
Which seems to get me 7-8 hours of heavy use. Of course these all weren't tested with the intention of finding the exact battery lives by using the same process on each phone, but I did get some knowledge of how different ROMs affect battery life. Now I'm waiting for AOSP 4.2 and I'll be trying that. I hope this helped.
Edit: Somehow misunderstood the subject of the thread. I don't intentionally drain mine daily and if it is at 100% then I take it off the charger until its about >70%
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How does running your phone with the charger affect the total battery lifespan/health? Is it better than running off the the battery and then re-charging? The same?
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How does running your phone with the charger affect the total battery lifespan/health? Is it better than running off the the battery and then re-charging? The same?
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it is not good for the battery to leave it plugged in while using the phone, unless it is not full and needs to be charged.
the best life span will be achieved by keeping the charge between 10% and 90% if you are draining it a lot.
prolonged charging while using "can" lead to swelling and possible exploding or failure of the battery.
charging while using @ 100% causes repeated "top off" cycles. topping off is stressful on the battery, so doing it repeatedly is bad.
feel free to look at battery university, it will confirm what i said and then some.