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Galaxy Note 3 is disappointing

I "upgraded" from a Nexus 4 to the Note 3 because on paper it sounded fantastic (especially the full HD screen). However, the performance of the device is extremely disappointing. There's a real disconnect between swiping the screen and the software responding. A perfect example of this is in the browser(s) scrolling department. I find that it's worse on Chrome that it is with the other browser. Sometimes in mobile rendered pages scrolling if fine. But most of the time, it's very jittery (it's not fluid and pixel perfect smooth). Very bad for the end-user experience.
Another example: the official Engadget app. Scrolling is extremely choppy on the Note 3. I have found that going into the Developer Mode options and turning on "Force GPU rendering" makes scrolling in Engadget very smooth (although it still stutters).
I understand that what I'm describing will be very subjective, and there'll be many "no lag here" type posts. Just writing about my experience with the Galaxy Note 3. Personally, I find it extremely disappointing. I will never buy another Samsung product.

I'm loving every part of my note 3 so far and find everything smooth and responsive. Battery life has been excellent and the screen is a wonder. But it's all opinions and there will never be a phone that is universally liked by every single person.
Hopefully things will improve for you and you start to enjoy using this wonderful device
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Yes, that's typical to Samsung, even with 3GB of RAM it's lags more than devices with 2 GB of RAM and that bunch of bloatware makes it work slower and plus KNOX that you can't to restore if it's changes to 0x1 so it's means you will loose your warranty.
What can I say, Samsung is getting worse and worse, I have my first and the last Samsung phone, because with that their stupid policy I won't buy their phones, and I think they will lose their position some day.

Do you have the S800 or Exynos model?

Bummer. Instead of starting your own thread, could you add your experiences to the Buyer's Remorse thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458640

bigmout said:
Bummer. Instead of starting your own thread, could you add your experiences to the Buyer's Remorse thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458640
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Yeah, or the one with almost the exact same thread title.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461599

Simonna said:
Yes, that's typical to Samsung, even with 3GB of RAM it's lags more than devices with 2 GB of RAM and that bunch of bloatware makes it work slower and plus KNOX that you can't to restore if it's changes to 0x1 so it's means you wil1l loose your warranty.
What can I say, Samsung is getting worse and worse, I have my first and the last Samsung phone, because with that their stupid policy I won't buy their phones, and I think they will lose their position some day.
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Maybe you could try the iPhone 5S powered by the Samsung manufactured 64 bit chip.doh that's no good then

I have a nexus 4 and upgraded the missus to note 3 and after turning off the s stay s stuff that she would never use( s-pen functionality still left on) it runs like a dream so much so that I would give her my nexus in a flash if she wanted to swap. Maybe you have a bad one as I am not having the same experience.
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hhadrian said:
Maybe you could try the iPhone 5S powered by the Samsung manufactured 64 bit chip.doh that's no good then
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Lol, better I will try another branded phone than Iphone or Samsung.

cmit37 said:
I have a nexus 4 and upgraded the missus to note 3 and after turning off the s stay s stuff that she would never use( s-pen functionality still left on) it runs like a dream so much so that I would give her my nexus in a flash if she wanted to swap. Maybe you have a bad one as I am not having the same experience.
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What is "s stay s stuff"?
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Han Solo 1 said:
What is "s stay s stuff"?
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I'm assuming they mean "Smart Stay, Smart Pause" etc.

I own Sony xperia x ultra and I confirm that it is is much smoother than Note 3 even that has only 2 GO of RAM. But the note has a charm and other things that made a little lag just not important: sound quality, s planner, smart stay, camera quality. At the moment the Note is the best SMART PHONE on the market. ( I do own S4 and XZU). My dream device is Note 3 with IP67.
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I checked out the Note 3 at an AT&T corporate store, and as I posted in one of my threads, it isn't very impressive. Note 1 feels much more premium compared to the Note 3.
There is something about Note 3 which screams "cheap toy!!" - maybe it's the build quality or the weight. Even the software isn't as snappy as it should be. I had to press the "Return"/"Back" and the "Menu" button three or four times sometimes to get it to work. I was very disappointed to see all this mediocrity in a flagship Samsung phone in 2013.
The LG G2 is what we call snappy and in my opinion (and Techno Buffalo's), it is the best Android phone ever in terms of speed and responsiveness. If the LG G2 had a stylus, I would drop the plan to buy the Note 3 in a second. Playing with the Note 3 for about 20 mins unexpectedly made me wonder if it was an upgrade at all over my Note 1, let alone a Note 2, and that's disappointing.

incisivekeith said:
I checked out the Note 3 at an AT&T corporate store, and as I posted in one of my threads, it isn't very impressive. Note 1 feels much more premium compared to the Note 3.
There is something about Note 3 which screams "cheap toy!!" - maybe it's the build quality or the weight. Even the software isn't as snappy as it should be. I had to press the "Return"/"Back" and the "Menu" button three or four times sometimes to get it to work. I was very disappointed to see all this mediocrity in a flagship Samsung phone in 2013.
The LG G2 is what we call snappy and in my opinion (and Techno Buffalo's), it is the best Android phone ever in terms of speed and responsiveness. If the LG G2 had a stylus, I would drop the plan to buy the Note 3 in a second. Playing with the Note 3 for about 20 mins unexpectedly made me wonder if it was an upgrade at all over my Note 1, let alone a Note 2, and that's disappointing.
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So if the Note1 is both more responsive and feels more premium that Note3, why are you considering buying it? :victory:

I don't know what you guys are talking about maybe your phone is faulty. My Note 3 is smooth as butter everything opens straight away I have the S4 and HTC One and the Note 3 is awesome
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incisivekeith said:
I checked out the Note 3 at an AT&T corporate store, and as I posted in one of my threads, it isn't very impressive. Note 1 feels much more premium compared to the Note 3.
There is something about Note 3 which screams "cheap toy!!" - maybe it's the build quality or the weight. Even the software isn't as snappy as it should be. I had to press the "Return"/"Back" and the "Menu" button three or four times sometimes to get it to work. I was very disappointed to see all this mediocrity in a flagship Samsung phone in 2013.
The LG G2 is what we call snappy and in my opinion (and Techno Buffalo's), it is the best Android phone ever in terms of speed and responsiveness. If the LG G2 had a stylus, I would drop the plan to buy the Note 3 in a second. Playing with the Note 3 for about 20 mins unexpectedly made me wonder if it was an upgrade at all over my Note 1, let alone a Note 2, and that's disappointing.
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i hate people like this. if you cant feel a difference in a note 1 and note 2 to the note 3 then get out. first off notes in the stores are running all kinds of crap and retail mode most likely and yeah why are you considering buying then if it isnt any different then note 1?????????

scott.deagan said:
I "upgraded" from a Nexus 4 to the Note 3 because on paper it sounded fantastic (especially the full HD screen). However, the performance of the device is extremely disappointing. There's a real disconnect between swiping the screen and the software responding. A perfect example of this is in the browser(s) scrolling department. I find that it's worse on Chrome that it is with the other browser. Sometimes in mobile rendered pages scrolling if fine. But most of the time, it's very jittery (it's not fluid and pixel perfect smooth). Very bad for the end-user experience.
Another example: the official Engadget app. Scrolling is extremely choppy on the Note 3. I have found that going into the Developer Mode options and turning on "Force GPU rendering" makes scrolling in Engadget very smooth (although it still stutters).
I understand that what I'm describing will be very subjective, and there'll be many "no lag here" type posts. Just writing about my experience with the Galaxy Note 3. Personally, I find it extremely disappointing. I will never buy another Samsung product.
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My Note 3 is perfect in every respect. Have had HTC One and Note 2 already so I can compare the Note 3 to other devices. Never had any lag.
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MohJee said:
So if the Note1 is both more responsive and feels more premium that Note3, why are you considering buying it? :victory:
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oneandroidnut said:
i hate people like this. if you cant feel a difference in a note 1 and note 2 to the note 3 then get out. first off notes in the stores are running all kinds of crap and retail mode most likely and yeah why are you considering buying then if it isnt any different then note 1?????????
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Both of you, especially you oneandroidnut, read my post carefully and don't let go until you fully understand what I said, and then we should be okay.

snowwhite007 said:
I don't know what you guys are talking about maybe your phone is faulty. My Note 3 is smooth as butter everything opens straight away I have the S4 and HTC One and the Note 3 is awesome
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It's the usual flood of trolls that accompanies all newely released phones. They usually own a device or two from a company whose a competitor of the newely released phone. Nothing new really.
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incisivekeith said:
Both of you, especially you oneandroidnut, read my post carefully and don't let go until you fully understand what I said, and then we should be okay.
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I have owned the Note 1 2 3 8 and 10
1. The Note 3 feels like a quality device. The software of the Note 3 is in a different league to the Note 1.
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Getting a Moto X instead...

This is kinda weird coming from a guy who has been a Samsung guy since the Captivate back in the day. I've had the OG Note, and I currently have a Note II.
I had the chance to get my hands on both the Note 3 and the Moto X side-by-side, and I have to say, I was more impressed with the Moto X overall.
Don't get me wrong though, I think the Note 3 is a fantastic device, but there were a couple of negatives that stood out to me and desuaded my purchase impulse.
1. Performance: I was VERY surprised by this one. I would have thought that with the Snapgradon 800 and 3GB of RAM, this device shouldn't even flinsh when it came to performance. Sadly, even my current Note II felt faster and smoother in a lot of instances. Web browsing, using Maps, and various other UI animations, etc, all felt way more jittery than I would have thought was acceptable. The Moto X on the other hand, could seriously give an iDevice a run for its money as far as real-world preformance and fluidity is concerned, just to give you an idea.
2. The new S-pen: Never mind all the new features; the new pen itself feels kinda flimsy compared to the previous generation. Seriously, I could feel the plastic of the whole pen flex under the pressure of just pressing the button.
3. Region locking: This is just the final straw for me. I travel a LOT, so this is a total deal breaker if I can't swap SIM cards from other regions. I don't know why Samsung decided to do this, but it was a bad move for this customer...
Honestly, in the brief time I had with both devices, the one thing that I will be sad about not having is that screen on the Note 3; it's simply a wonder to behold.
The Moto X has a great screen too, but it's no Note 3 by any stretch.
Anyway, that's all! Maybe the region locking can be sorted out by the dev community here, and hopefully the performance issues can be fixed with updates. Until then, my money isn't going to Samsung...
That's all!

Wow, I had completely different experience. I felt the note 3 was so much faster then the 2. Also Google maps recalculated do fast it almost mind boggling. One con I swear maps has a different annoying voice. But I might be crazy.
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Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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I haven't actually got my hands on a Note 3 yet, but I've used the Moto X side by side a Nexus 4, and I was disappointed in the Moto X.. and I find the Note 2 to handle better than the Nexus 4 (at least for what I get to do during the 30 minute play sessions). And so.. transitively, since the general consensus is that the Note 3 is a step up over the Note 2, I feel like the Note 3 would be a much more favorable option. But hey, it's your phone. As long as you're happy, everything is all good!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
This is kinda weird coming from a guy who has been a Samsung guy since the Captivate back in the day. I've had the OG Note, and I currently have a Note II.
I had the chance to get my hands on both the Note 3 and the Moto X side-by-side, and I have to say, I was more impressed with the Moto X overall.
Don't get me wrong though, I think the Note 3 is a fantastic device, but there were a couple of negatives that stood out to me and desuaded my purchase impulse.
1. Performance: I was VERY surprised by this one. I would have thought that with the Snapgradon 800 and 3GB of RAM, this device shouldn't even flinsh when it came to performance. Sadly, even my current Note II felt faster and smoother in a lot of instances. Web browsing, using Maps, and various other UI animations, etc, all felt way more jittery than I would have thought was acceptable. The Moto X on the other hand, could seriously give an iDevice a run for its money as far as real-world preformance and fluidity is concerned, just to give you an idea.
2. The new S-pen: Never mind all the new features; the new pen itself feels kinda flimsy compared to the previous generation. Seriously, I could feel the plastic of the whole pen flex under the pressure of just pressing the button.
3. Region locking: This is just the final straw for me. I travel a LOT, so this is a total deal breaker if I can't swap SIM cards from other regions. I don't know why Samsung decided to do this, but it was a bad move for this customer...
Honestly, in the brief time I had with both devices, the one thing that I will be sad about not having is that screen on the Note 3; it's simply a wonder to behold.
The Moto X has a great screen too, but it's no Note 3 by any stretch.
Anyway, that's all! Maybe the region locking can be sorted out by the dev community here, and hopefully the performance issues can be fixed with updates. Until then, my money isn't going to Samsung...
That's all!
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you saw both the note 3 and moto x in the states?

ChodTheWacko said:
Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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NOT TRUE.... Read the XDA thread at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45908977
and this report
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/03...laxy-s3-and-note-ii-after-android-4-4-update/
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My wife is using a Moto X on Verizon and I am on a TMO Note 3. Both are excellent phones and they suit both of our uses. Note 3 feels faster than the Moto X in my opinion, but not by much. My wife will probably say the opposite. Good choice with the Moto X. I can't see someone regretting that decision.

I'm going from note 2 to moto x as well. If the moto customizations with voice don't blow me away then I'll return for a note 3.
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avenging said:
you saw both the note 3 and moto x in the states?
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The AT&T store I went to last weekend had display units of both phones. I'm not sure if both were necessarily available for sale, but that wasn't the reason for going in there anyway; I just wanted to get some hands-on time with them side-by-side.

ChodTheWacko said:
Region lock only happens for grey market phones. If you activate a note 3 in the country it was purchased the region lock never happens.
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That is not true! It seems when you unlock it and then use another SIM it is still lock!
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Great get your moto x and have a nice life!! Lol
There is no way to compare this monster of a device to anything else really
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After all my complications with the Droid Razr I refuse to ever use Motorola again. Terrible terrible terrible experience. I have sent my phone in for repair/warranty more than 10x. The non-removable battery means it will go bad quickly and once it does, your kinda screwed. Hate my Droid Razr with a passion. Hopefully they've corrected their mistakes in the Moto X, but as far as I'm concerned I cant trust them to do it.
My wife is rocking the s4, and had the s3 before that. I've always been jealous of how well her phones worked so I decided to get the Note 3 . So this will be my first Samsung device, and hopefully I will have a good experience with it.

Good luck to ya, old chap. Don't see why you felt the need to tell us, but good luck anyhow.

SgtGoldy said:
After all my complications with the Droid Razr I refuse to ever use Motorola again. Terrible terrible terrible experience. I have sent my phone in for repair/warranty more than 10x. The non-removable battery means it will go bad quickly and once it does, your kinda screwed. Hate my Droid Razr with a passion. Hopefully they've corrected their mistakes in the Moto X, but as far as I'm concerned I cant trust them to do it.
My wife is rocking the s4, and had the s3 before that. I've always been jealous of how well her phones worked so I decided to get the Note 3 . So this will be my first Samsung device, and hopefully I will have a good experience with it.
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my first experience with samsung was with the s2, and after the next two notes and I have always been happy with them :good:

when i first looked at the note 3 at AT&T last week the moto x surprised me. way to small for me to ever use but felt really nice and snappy

oneandroidnut said:
when i first looked at the note 3 at AT&T last week the moto x surprised me. way to small for me to ever use but felt really nice and snappy
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Thought about the moto x, but have decided I can't have a phone without a removable battery. I travel a lot and being able to swap batteries is something I've gotta have.

mhoepfin said:
Thought about the moto x, but have decided I can't have a phone without a removable battery. I travel a lot and being able to swap batteries is something I've gotta have.
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True another big reason i didnt or havent bought an htc one. and also no sdcard slot kills it too. but phone felt really nice. if i didnt like 1080p and higher ppi screens and didnt care about size or sdcard and battery it would be a great device. moto was so close to having a home run. that phone with a 5" 1080p screen, removable battery and sdcard, and the dev support with unlocked bootloader etc etc phone would be a huge seller. i think that should be the next nexus phone.

Note II faster than Note 3 ?!?.
It never be.

Andrewtst said:
Note II faster than Note 3 ?!?.
It never be.
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THIS. dont know how people say this

Disappointed.. :(

Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks

albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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Its a nexus device, did you realize that nexus devices do not have hardware buttons before you bought it?

Not much you can do without root.
But if you do decide to root (use the guide in my signature) you can use pie controls or install a custom ROM/xposed module which will allow you to change the size of the navbar.
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I realised that it had no buttons just thought it would have visible screen..
How does the nexus 5 compare to the S4, LG G2 and HTC One for useable screen space. ?
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albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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I was unhappy about the sound aswell, I rooted purely to install a sound mod that increases the volume greatly, and it doesn't have any distortion problems at all, see here.
Speaker Volume Boost for Nexus 5 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788

albert_htc said:
Just received my Nexus 5 and am quiet disappointed with it.
The sound is OK, not as loud as my S3 but OK
The screen is very nice, but quiet a lot of display is used by the 'buttons'
Comparing side by side to the S3, the S3 seems to display more page.
Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this ?
Any way to get access to more of the screen without rooting it ?
Thanks
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PROS:
It's a decent price
It gets updates quick
It's fast
Camera takes decent pics in as long as nothing is moving
Design is good
CONS:
The cameras slow focus makes it next to impossible to take pictures of my new puppy.
The sound seems fine to me for speaker calling, for music not so much but who listens to music like that. I picked up a bluetooth speaker and use that anytime I want to listen to music sounds 10 times better than the speakers on any phone.
The screen size is good, the Galaxys are too big IMO feels like I'm using a mini tablet. I have the white version I don't care for the shiny edges but when my Nexus case comes I won't see them anyways.
My only other gripe other than the camera is I can't get an otterbox for it that's not the phones fault though.
Overall I'm happy with it for the price.

Another one of these threads huh?

mistahseller said:
Another one of these threads huh?
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I don't know about it being another one.. But its the one I started.
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
Google now uses the full screen any way to get other apps to do that ?

I upgraded from the S4 and love my Nexus 5.

Yup you should stick to Samsung, nexus won't ever make you happy. It just isn't for some people. Lol
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duckied said:
Yup you should stick to Samsung, nexus won't ever make you happy. It just isn't for some people. Lol
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My son has the Nexus4 which sounds louder, I have the Nexus 7 2013 tab which is great.
I like the phone, but it would be nice if the screen could be fully used..

hotweiss said:
I upgraded from the S4 and love my Nexus 5.
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funny, I rather go back to my S4

albert_htc said:
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
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Why? Did you not do any homework at all prior to purchasing this phone? Are you not familiar with Nexus devices at all?
I'm so tired of these people who drop a few hundred bucks and don't even know what they're buying. It's not like the navbar is some kind of huge secret that people are discovering for the first time. It's a fundamental part of the Nexus experience, and there are plenty of other phones you could have purchased that don't have it. Complaining about the navbar on a Nexus phone is like jumping into a pool and then complaining that it made you wet.

^^^this. OP, please send me your nexus, I'll pm you my address.
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albert_htc said:
I like the phone, but it would be nice if the screen could be fully used..
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And back to my point nexus isn't for everyone. I agree with the comments above, you should of done research before putting down a few hundred dollars on a device. The navigation bar should not been a surprise to you.
But you have a choice to return it also.
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albert_htc said:
I don't know about it being another one.. But its the one I started.
I think I was expecting more screen real estate..
Google now uses the full screen any way to get other apps to do that ?
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Well, there's no need to flame hard, but with all the people complaining about the N5's drawbacks...seriously? On-screen buttons? Remember what forum this is; literally all the ROMs have features to use full Immersive Mode, enable PIE, or decrease button size. Go and have a flashing day.
It's no big deal if you can use PIE or hide it or make it smaller; it's definitely something I can live with. I can't live with the ****ty perf of the S4 or the big big big bezels on the HTC One though. Worth it if you ask me...

@albert_htc these problems can be resolved by flashing custom ROMs and kernels, as well as Mods only if you're familiar with rooting and unlocking your bootloader
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These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
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dicecuber said:
These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
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The navbar is not a "problem." It's an intentional feature of the device. There are mods you can flash to remove it, but they're not "solving" a problem - they're modifying or removing a feature that was intentionally included in the stock phone.
Once again, this is a standard Nexus feature that has been included in every Nexus phone and tablet that has been released since the Galaxy Nexus. This is not new, and it's not a "problem." The only problem is that there are apparently a bunch of people out there who refuse to educate themselves before plunking down hundreds of dollars on a gadget that is clearly not for them.

dicecuber said:
These devices should be released with the problem already solved without the need to use third party roms
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Sad but true. We spend $350+ on these phones we expect them to be flawless but sadly that's not the case. But what can we do we might as well unlock it's true potential and tweak them the way we want that's the reason why we chose android over iphone or for me that is
I have a custom ROM and kernel flashed and im very happy with this phone. Battery is stellar phone is snappy and I'm happy lol?
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LG G Pro 2 Hands-On !! ur thought?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEc9bYgEDQM

Will be my next phone. I like the under dogs and LG has come a long way from their crappy optimus devices. Tired of Sammy anymore and their ways. Ready for a change. Love how you can make the screen smaller, awesome!
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Wow really nice .... May replace my note 3 with this ...
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Looks great except for the on screen buttons. Glad they included ext sd support though.
Sent from my G2, Note 3 or S4

anybody seen this ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-UNLOC...1280165681?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c3cdc7731
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECOMOBILE...=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222002&algo=SIC
what do you guys think ? ! will it work in UK ? and has anybody bought a phone from Korea over the net ? always wonder if you would actually get the goods ? :good:

Looks like it works on bands 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8 - So it should be good for EE's current network in the UK (bands 3 and 7) and Three's (band 3), but not band 20 used currently by O2 and Vodafone. To confuse matters further, EE also own bandwidth on band 20, while Vodafone own bandwidth on band 7.
Long and short - I'd wait for an international version.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-UNLOC...1280165681?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c3cdc7731
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ECOMOBILE...=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid=222002&algo=SIC
what do you guys think ? ! will it work in UK ? and has anybody bought a phone from Korea over the net ? always wonder if you would actually get the goods ? :good:
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battletank said:
Looks like it works on bands 1, 3, 5, 7 and 8 - So it should be good for EE's current network in the UK (bands 3 and 7) and Three's (band 3), but not band 20 used currently by O2 and Vodafone. To confuse matters further, EE also own bandwidth on band 20, while Vodafone own bandwidth on band 7.
Long and short - I'd wait for an international version.
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Its good phone. The textured back however is slippery. Not a good combo. The phone feels faster than my Note 3, however in benchmarks its not as fast. The camera is x 10 better than the note 3's specially in low light.
Here's a quite unboxing of the F350S version I got from Korea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_8qSLuWc-c

Looks like an awesome phone but I'll wait for the G3.
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barondebxl said:
Looks like an awesome phone but I'll wait for the G3.
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This is gona be tough....G3, G flex or Gpro 2 lol? LG is killing me right now!
If the g3 has ext sd support that will make things easier.
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force70 said:
This is gona be tough....G3, G flex or Gpro 2 lol? LG is killing me right now!
If the g3 has ext sd support that will make things easier.
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The G3 will most likely have the better specs of all 3. And it's their flagship phone.
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I can't see what else the G3 would have over this, unless the bump up the resolution to QHD and offer a micro SD slot. Also people think this is to big of a phone. Besides that, maybe a bump in pixels on the camera to help with marketing. Besides that, don't see anything crazy. Only thing I wish this phone had, was stereo speakers like the Z2 or HTC one. That and a bigger battery. Still an amazing phone and love where you can shrink the screen for one handed use... Love it!
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I can't tell you how excited I am to hear the thoughts that this camera is not only better in low-light as well as overall than the note 3.
I am disgusted in the note 3's both auto focus and low light performance.

For me it the best device out there, but with Note 3 on the same height. Both have almost identical hardware specifications. I chose the Note 3 because of the awesome S Pen included and the software around it. I love to draw, and I'm a Draw Something 2 addict...so yeah, Note 3 was a better choice for my needs. The S Pen is incredibly accurate and the floating dot without touching the display is perfect for drawing

Bought one last week. Love it. But be careful of the 4.4.2 Ext SD access problem. If you rely on your Ext SD a lot and don''t plan to root your phone, you probably should look elsewhere or wait for a fix/update.

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Bought one last week. Love it. But be careful of the 4.4.2 Ext SD access problem. If you rely on your Ext SD a lot and don''t plan to root your phone, you probably should look elsewhere or wait for a fix/update.
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That's any phone on 4.4.2 try a app in market called folder Mount. ... But you have to be rooted
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I cant believe they are selling/updating devices with this type of issue. I would be very angry and a customer service nightmare if I dropped $700-800 on a device and had this crap happening.
Good thing im not buying another device for a few mos...they better sort this out lol
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JesseMT4G said:
I can't see what else the G3 would have over this, unless the bump up the resolution to QHD and offer a micro SD slot. Also people think this is to big of a phone. Besides that, maybe a bump in pixels on the camera to help with marketing. Besides that, don't see anything crazy. Only thing I wish this phone had, was stereo speakers like the Z2 or HTC one. That and a bigger battery. Still an amazing phone and love where you can shrink the screen for one handed use... Love it!
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Many things... A snapdragon 805, better display, newer UI, more features, better build quality, better camera. G3 can be much better.
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force70 said:
I cant believe they are selling/updating devices with this type of issue. I would be very angry and a customer service nightmare if I dropped $700-800 on a device and had this crap happening.
Good thing im not buying another device for a few mos...they better sort this out lol
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It's the policy of Google since Kitkat. Don't like it - don't buy it, that simple
Even all Galaxy like S4 or Note 3 has this "bug"
The apps can now write only to external_SD/Android/data/appname folder, but can read any files from SD. So devs must update their apps to comply

Billy Madison said:
It's the policy of Google since Kitkat. Don't like it - don't buy it, that simple
Even all Galaxy like S4 or Note 3 has this "bug"
The apps can now write only to external_SD/Android/data/appname folder, but can read any files from SD. So devs must update their apps to comply
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Im tempted to take the ota on my s4 and note 3...observe the issue then take the devices back to where I bought them (outright I may add) and demand my money back for them screwing up my device.
I bought both from rogers who is also my carrier....cant see how they could refuse..its their ota that "broke" the device lol.
This is just one small example of why I never take otas these days..the updates cause issues and take away features it seems.
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s3 to n5?

I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?

Aside from possibly the camera...and no SD slot.....yes, a huge upgrade. IMHO.

I just came from my GS3 to the N5 and the difference is night and day. Even with a KitKat rom on my GS3 it isnt nearly as fast and smooth as the N5.
Not to mention N5 roms are nearly bug free.
You do lose the SD card as mentioned above, the camera (I think) is a little better quality.
Battery is way better.

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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You won't be disappointed with the upgrade. Went from i747 to N5 and everything is so much smoother. Keep your s3 with a proven rom as a backup but don't expect to jump back to it once you feel the difference in speed and reliability of the nexus 5.
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kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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I came 2 days ago from a d2spr. I can't begin to explain the night and day difference between the 2.
Hardware aside, the development here is way more active than on the s3 side. Hope to see you here.....

kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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One and half month back I had the same confusion regarding this.
But after switching to N5, I am quite happy than before, until and unless you experience it you wont understand the differences of its software and hardware from S3.

Wi Fi Direct
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5

chainsuk said:
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Never used it...

galaxy s5 is better
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watalee said:
galaxy s5 is better
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Please don't troll.
"better" is subjective. Samsung cannot make a touchwiz device that doesn't lag. All of us who have had Galaxy devices know this. The s5 is no exception. The OP did not mention the S5. If he wanted an S5, he would have posted this in the S5 forum. Lets try to stay on topic please.

For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5

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For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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That's exactly why I was looking at the n5 and not the s5. I found a 32gb black nexus for $315 on swappa so it's on its way now. I know the s5 has better stats on paper but it would also ruin any warranty if I rooted it ( samsungs counter). I like experimenting with different roms and I haven't used tpuchwiz for months. I know the n5 isn't exactly new but it's new enough that it should get the next update version of andriod.

I came from the Note 2, which is similar spec to the S3, and here’s what I miss the most:
-Wolfson DAC: With DAC Direct, audio sounded far superior on Note 2 (the reason audiophiles love Samsung phones)
-APT-X Bluetooth Codec: Again, sounds far superior to standard BT audio
-Phase Detection Auto Focus: For fast focus lock. N5 uses contrast detection, which is why it’s slow to focus
-Camera voice commands: Handy when taking photos of the kids / pets etc
-Expandable Storage: I would have liked the option to use my own SD cards, however I have bought a USB OTG SD card reader so this point is moot now
Apart from that I couldn’t be happier with the N5, and am actually happy to be rid of all Samsung’s gimmicks and so called “features”.
So if you haven’t already, go for it!

Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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CitizenLee said:
This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276

rootSU said:
Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
Good post though, hit the nail on the head regarding tolerance, human error, and everything else really.
Like yourself I have light bleed, but I can live with it as it's only noticeable when it boots up.

CitizenLee said:
I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.

rootSU said:
No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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Aye, seems to be quite common these days that websites run a story without properly fact checking!