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Hello,
Now that Froyo more or less came out and apps will start having Apps2SD function, it's time for a MicroSD upgrade.
What I want is on-phone performance - that running heavy 3D games on SD would perform as smoothly as if it was on internal memory. Is there a general consensus on what brand/class would suffice, and what is overkill? I have no concern over data cable transfer speed, as I'm pretty sure the phone will limit the speed much before the SD card does.
I'm looking at this Sandisk 16gb MicroSDHC Class 2 for $35 after shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Flash...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1275145563&sr=1-1
Anyone know if this would suffice?
Past threads have always went on tangents about good brand vs knock offs, how class is important vs. a marketing ploy, etc etc. Has a general consensus been reached in the xda community over what is sufficient but not overkill for onboard performance? Perhaps people who have already ran App2SD and use games and videos a lot have some input.
Thanks
I have a Top Ram 16 Gig class 6 and I think I paid about the same as you looking to pay for a class2. I also have a class2 that I have had for over a year. I used to use it in my blackberry. It still works and it is made by one of the cheap manufacturers.
Argh, I'm suffering from chronic SD corruption. So I'm in the market for a new chip. Think I'll spring for a 32gb this time. What's the latest on one that's both compatible and fast? And cheap too, that would be nice, links appreciated.
Considering that due to the amount of RAM the N1 has your main apps will be loaded already so card speed is not a significant factor, unless you use lots of different apps on a regular basis.
A faster card is beneficial mostly for the time i takes when I am loading up new music and possibly vids if you use it for that
This is the first 32gb MicroSD card I have seen "In Stock" Pretty expensive for a class 2 though.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...crosdhc-32-gb-retail/q/loc/101/215191110.html
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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
You can get a 16gb class 10 for about $90.00.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036V5DGG...e=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0036V5DGG
frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
bewar ebay, there a lot of folks selling fake cards. They even read as what they were sold as but then fill up mighty quick............
The class is not needed I don't think
I have a class six and have been running games on it from sd for 3 months cant tell a bit of difference. I run linpack from sd and it works fine too!
the only real 32gb card is found here., http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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no f-ing way that is real for $30
GldRush98 said:
Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
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I'm running a 32gb Sandisk Class 2 in my Nexus as of last Friday. No problems (apart from a looooong time to refresh the media library after resyncing my music).
You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
djmcnz said:
You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
jasrups said:
I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
wikipedia said:
In applications that require sustained write throughput, such as video recording, the device may not perform satisfactorily if the SD card's class rating falls below a particular speed. For example, a camcorder that is designed to record to class 6 media may suffer dropouts or corrupted video on slower media.
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The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic wand and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
djmcnz said:
No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic want and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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Thanks for the info man! I was obviously misinformed, you just saved me a bunch of money
so just curious. now that CM 5.0.8 comes with 720p recording, would a class 2 still suffice?
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)... If the speed of v2.1 w/o app2sd is acceptable to you, then v2.2 with 6-7M write speed card should be logically fine with you.
fshek said:
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)...
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huh that's interesting. i just might pick that up from amazon then..
I Dont think fragmentation makes any difference to write speed, these are not mechanical devices like hard disks.
Also defragging is pointless and shortens the life of the card by increasing the number of writes.
Been looking around for which microsd card to replace my venue pro one with. definitely want a 32gb one. Pulled up a few, are a lot of people having problems with the class 4 cards? Should I stick with a class 2, even though the 4 is about the same price, or cheaper? Here are the few I found, all around $80. Price doesn't matter, just want the one that will work the best.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...rd/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/219031154.html
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-SDSDQ-032G-A11M-Retail-Package/dp/B003OA8T92/ref=pd_cp_e_1
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk32-g...icrosdhc-1-card-pack/q/loc/101/217020006.html (same card as above)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G60AD6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
I'm 100% sure someone had posted the 32GB MicroSD card S/N they use. I don't remember which post it was, it is somewhere in the Venue Pro General form.
I think class 6 should work. Max Miller at ZDNet has posted a blog about how he swapped a troublesome dvp's 8gb card with 32gb n the dvp is working like a charm after that. It has a video aswell.
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Whats the largest SD card Windows mobile 7 can handle, and if it's less than 128 will it be able to recognize "partitioned" SD cards?
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
kharnak said:
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
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Why would a slower class work better than a faster class of SD? Class ten is the fastest your able to buy.
If I can buy a class 10 32gb would it work?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...61411-L06D&AID=10657534&PID=749547&SID=forums
I swapped my 8GB class 4 that came with the device to a 32 GB SanDisk class 4. I do notice slower write speeds - 720p video in particular seems to have a lag when capturing. Other than that, the phone is zippy fast.
I bought a Dell Venue Pro (normally hate Dell and don't give them the time of day) and from what i've been reading i'm going to be stuck with a class 2 or 4 (32gb) MicroSD card. And to narrow it down even further supposedly the ones that work best with these phones are sandisk.
So my questions are this. Will I actually be able to use a class 10 microsd card or is it a limitation of the physical phone. I mean windows is capable of 32gb and probably more.
If it isn't able to use class 10 right now will there be a firmware update for the phone that will allow it.
What would happen if i bought a kingston or patriot over sandisk (as i've always considered them the bottom of the pile)
I've been using a 32gb sandisk (class 2) for a couple days now and it's awesome. Despite being class 2, it's way faster than the crappy class 4 that came with the phone.
Random r/w speed is the most important thing to worry about with WP7 devices. Class rating does not say anything at all about random r/w speed, just about the maximum throughput. In fact, there is often a NEGATIVE correlation between class rating and random r/w speed - the higher the class, the lower random r/w.
So that's why class 2, 4, or 6 cards seem to be the best.
so could anyone give me a link of the best 32 gb sd card I can use for my DVP that would be awesome.
the one that came with my phone is starting to fail (constantly getting the black screen with memory card problem and asking me to change cards and reset)
another question
let's say something happens with my phone and I need to send it back for warranty repair, could I possibly switch out the sd card back to the original one, reset and be ok?
So does this phone have a SD card that is expandable? I just got the phone a week ago and thought it was built in and couldn't be changed.
Can anyone tell me as to what is the highest capacity card the S740 supports. Just talked to the HTC hotline, and they tell me it's 8GB (first they alleged it was only 4GB yet I had an 8GB in my machine that just got stolen).
On the other hand, I see offers out there for 16GB and even 32GB that supposedly work with the S740.
thanks in advance for your help
Well I've learned that 16GB will definitely work; and that 32GB should also - theoretically.
So I have taken the "plunge" and ordered the 32GB; after all the cost is practically negligible
Hey everyone,
I'm considering buying the Nvidia Shield and I would like to use more than the 16GB internal storage. I'm looking to buy a 32GB Micro SD card and format it to FAT32. Which SD card class should I buy?
Thanks a bunch
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Class 10 UHS-1? I hesitate to answer this question because even with that card I'm only transferring data at 12mb/s. Usually its an abysmal 4mb/s. Definitely not normal but the I just deal with it.
My card is a Sandisk 64gb class on 10 UHS-1. I should be getting minimum 10mb/s, max 45mb/s. Smh.
CobraCommanderp said:
Class 10 UHS-1? I hesitate to answer this question because even with that card I'm only transferring data at 12mb/s. Usually its an abysmal 4mb/s. Definitely not normal but the I just deal with it.
My card is a Sandisk 64gb class on 10 UHS-1. I should be getting minimum 10mb/s, max 45mb/s. Smh.
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I'm thinking of getting the Sandisk 32 GB 10 UHS-1 (seen here), since I don't want to deal with 64GB and above SD cards. It was my understanding that the higher the card in terms of size, the lower its' performance and inability to be used on the shield. Am I correct on this one?
Yeah Android is funny like that, I had big problems using a 64gb sdxc on my Galaxy s3 but I'm pretty sure that problem was isolated to Samsung devices. I'm far more of a PC guy than mobile so it seems strange to me that higher capacity performs poorly compared to low capacity, where nand SSD's are the opposite.
That being said I've had no issues other than speed with a 64gb sdxc in my Shield. Haven't seen anyone complain about the 128gb either.
Better to get input from someone who actually knows something about secure digital memory.
The main Problem...
The thing is, thcard is a UHS-1 class SDXC card, but the micro sd card reader doesnt support sdxc or UHS-1. So your card will never go faster than stupid slow...I have the Samsung evo which has 48mb/s and im lucky if it pushes 10mb/s...
The shields port limits it to true class 10 which IS 10mb/s. I hope this clears that up..lol
Basically, Sandisk, Transcend and Samsung Evo Micros are the best to get. I personally use this in mine, it's just a well made card...
http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Mic...id=1405501012&sr=8-1&keywords=transcend+micro
Thanks for all your comments!
So... I feel I should buy a 32GB SD Card as long its' a class 10 card. I personally like SanDisk, so I feel like using that.
In any case, I'm still having some thoughts about the Nvidia Shield, but it will straighten up soon enough.
Again, Thanks a BUNCH for helping me out and sort this issue for me ^_^
Hello,
I apologize if this question has already been made but I have a little concerns regarding this matter.
I recently bought the Honor 6 online and I'll receive it soon. I'd like some advice for buying a microSD card that meets my needs.
I'd like to buy a 64gb card that is fast enough (mainly for music and also apps), so I'd avoid cheap cards (unless you assure they're more than ok).
I've made some researches and I'm a bit confused about few points.
What do I really need to check in a card? Is it true that for mobiles the most important thing to see in a sd card are the random Read/Write (512K) speeds? Or else I need to check its sequential speed?
According to a lot of speed tests, SanDisk Extreme Pro is one of the fastest sd cards out there but I also read that SanDisk cards have a quite high failure rate after few months of use (true or not?). Being expensive I've no idea if it would be worth or not.
There are also Samsung Pro+, Transcend 633x, Lexar 1033x etc.. They are quite expensive in Europe and I've totally no idea if my future Honor 6 will be able to benefit to all their fast speed.
I've read this review http://www.anandtech.com/show/8425/huawei-honor-6-review/9 and I'm a bit concerned what the reviewer wrote about the Honor 6, I quote the exact text:
"The Honor 6 offers also a microSD card slot in case you want to expand your storage. The OS offers full exFat compatibility and I had no issues with my Samsung Pro 64GB card. I was however disappointed to see that the HiSilicon chip suffers from the same limitation that plagues other SoCs for no good reason: the DWMMC controller in charge of the SD-card is limited to SDR50 speeds, meaning that you won't be able to exceed ~35mB/s transfer speeds on your microSD, no matter how fast it actually is. It still baffles me that OEMs refuse to address this even almost 2 years after the first UHS-1 cards have been made widely available. "
Is this actually true?
Which microSD you recommend me?
ziovelvet said:
Hello,
IWhich microSD you recommend me?
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Clearly UHS-1 card is the best balance between performance and cost. According to your research.
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