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Hello,
Now that Froyo more or less came out and apps will start having Apps2SD function, it's time for a MicroSD upgrade.
What I want is on-phone performance - that running heavy 3D games on SD would perform as smoothly as if it was on internal memory. Is there a general consensus on what brand/class would suffice, and what is overkill? I have no concern over data cable transfer speed, as I'm pretty sure the phone will limit the speed much before the SD card does.
I'm looking at this Sandisk 16gb MicroSDHC Class 2 for $35 after shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Flash...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1275145563&sr=1-1
Anyone know if this would suffice?
Past threads have always went on tangents about good brand vs knock offs, how class is important vs. a marketing ploy, etc etc. Has a general consensus been reached in the xda community over what is sufficient but not overkill for onboard performance? Perhaps people who have already ran App2SD and use games and videos a lot have some input.
Thanks
I have a Top Ram 16 Gig class 6 and I think I paid about the same as you looking to pay for a class2. I also have a class2 that I have had for over a year. I used to use it in my blackberry. It still works and it is made by one of the cheap manufacturers.
Argh, I'm suffering from chronic SD corruption. So I'm in the market for a new chip. Think I'll spring for a 32gb this time. What's the latest on one that's both compatible and fast? And cheap too, that would be nice, links appreciated.
Considering that due to the amount of RAM the N1 has your main apps will be loaded already so card speed is not a significant factor, unless you use lots of different apps on a regular basis.
A faster card is beneficial mostly for the time i takes when I am loading up new music and possibly vids if you use it for that
This is the first 32gb MicroSD card I have seen "In Stock" Pretty expensive for a class 2 though.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...crosdhc-32-gb-retail/q/loc/101/215191110.html
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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
You can get a 16gb class 10 for about $90.00.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036V5DGG...e=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0036V5DGG
frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
bewar ebay, there a lot of folks selling fake cards. They even read as what they were sold as but then fill up mighty quick............
The class is not needed I don't think
I have a class six and have been running games on it from sd for 3 months cant tell a bit of difference. I run linpack from sd and it works fine too!
the only real 32gb card is found here., http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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no f-ing way that is real for $30
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
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I'm running a 32gb Sandisk Class 2 in my Nexus as of last Friday. No problems (apart from a looooong time to refresh the media library after resyncing my music).
You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
wikipedia said:
In applications that require sustained write throughput, such as video recording, the device may not perform satisfactorily if the SD card's class rating falls below a particular speed. For example, a camcorder that is designed to record to class 6 media may suffer dropouts or corrupted video on slower media.
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The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic wand and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic want and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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Thanks for the info man! I was obviously misinformed, you just saved me a bunch of money
so just curious. now that CM 5.0.8 comes with 720p recording, would a class 2 still suffice?
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)... If the speed of v2.1 w/o app2sd is acceptable to you, then v2.2 with 6-7M write speed card should be logically fine with you.
fshek said:
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)...
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huh that's interesting. i just might pick that up from amazon then..
I Dont think fragmentation makes any difference to write speed, these are not mechanical devices like hard disks.
Also defragging is pointless and shortens the life of the card by increasing the number of writes.
Been looking around for which microsd card to replace my venue pro one with. definitely want a 32gb one. Pulled up a few, are a lot of people having problems with the class 4 cards? Should I stick with a class 2, even though the 4 is about the same price, or cheaper? Here are the few I found, all around $80. Price doesn't matter, just want the one that will work the best.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...rd/q/sellerid/20451128/loc/101/219031154.html
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-SDSDQ-032G-A11M-Retail-Package/dp/B003OA8T92/ref=pd_cp_e_1
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk32-g...icrosdhc-1-card-pack/q/loc/101/217020006.html (same card as above)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G60AD6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
I'm 100% sure someone had posted the 32GB MicroSD card S/N they use. I don't remember which post it was, it is somewhere in the Venue Pro General form.
I think class 6 should work. Max Miller at ZDNet has posted a blog about how he swapped a troublesome dvp's 8gb card with 32gb n the dvp is working like a charm after that. It has a video aswell.
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Whats the largest SD card Windows mobile 7 can handle, and if it's less than 128 will it be able to recognize "partitioned" SD cards?
I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
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I use a sandisk 32g class 2 and it works fine. Did find a lot of class 4 of same price but skipped as I only saw that class 2 works from posts online.
And from a random (not sure if reliable though) article online, it says WP7's file system depends on random I/O seek time (or alike) which is a different dimension from class, which gauge the continuous transfer speed.
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Why would a slower class work better than a faster class of SD? Class ten is the fastest your able to buy.
If I can buy a class 10 32gb would it work?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...61411-L06D&AID=10657534&PID=749547&SID=forums
I swapped my 8GB class 4 that came with the device to a 32 GB SanDisk class 4. I do notice slower write speeds - 720p video in particular seems to have a lag when capturing. Other than that, the phone is zippy fast.
I bought a Dell Venue Pro (normally hate Dell and don't give them the time of day) and from what i've been reading i'm going to be stuck with a class 2 or 4 (32gb) MicroSD card. And to narrow it down even further supposedly the ones that work best with these phones are sandisk.
So my questions are this. Will I actually be able to use a class 10 microsd card or is it a limitation of the physical phone. I mean windows is capable of 32gb and probably more.
If it isn't able to use class 10 right now will there be a firmware update for the phone that will allow it.
What would happen if i bought a kingston or patriot over sandisk (as i've always considered them the bottom of the pile)
I've been using a 32gb sandisk (class 2) for a couple days now and it's awesome. Despite being class 2, it's way faster than the crappy class 4 that came with the phone.
Random r/w speed is the most important thing to worry about with WP7 devices. Class rating does not say anything at all about random r/w speed, just about the maximum throughput. In fact, there is often a NEGATIVE correlation between class rating and random r/w speed - the higher the class, the lower random r/w.
So that's why class 2, 4, or 6 cards seem to be the best.
so could anyone give me a link of the best 32 gb sd card I can use for my DVP that would be awesome.
the one that came with my phone is starting to fail (constantly getting the black screen with memory card problem and asking me to change cards and reset)
another question
let's say something happens with my phone and I need to send it back for warranty repair, could I possibly switch out the sd card back to the original one, reset and be ok?
So does this phone have a SD card that is expandable? I just got the phone a week ago and thought it was built in and couldn't be changed.
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So I've just installed ICS on my N1 and finally the graphical interface has become properly smooth. But that ment repartitionning, which in turn ment I needed to use app2sd. But opening apps now feels slower than before, and I believe the app2sd solution is the problem. I am currently using the 4GB card (class 2?) that I think came with the phone, but new cards are dirt cheap so if anyone knows a card that will be substantially faster I would be interested. The main consern is random access speed I believe, so I feel looking at the rating (class 10 and whatnot) is no use. I was looking at a sandisk mobile ultra card based on this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
And I am probably going to buy a 16GB card, maybe 8 or 32 if there is a really good one of those. Any recommendations?
While you're at it, does our Nexus One support UHS-1 cards like this?
tommert38 said:
While you're at it, does our Nexus One support UHS-1 cards like this?
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Not that I really know the answer, but it seems highly unlikely. The cards should work in the phone, but you will probably not be able to use the UHS mode (increased clock-frequency).
eiriklf said:
Hi
So I've just installed ICS on my N1 and finally the graphical interface has become properly smooth. But that ment repartitionning, which in turn ment I needed to use app2sd. But opening apps now feels slower than before, and I believe the app2sd solution is the problem. I am currently using the 4GB card (class 2?) that I think came with the phone, but new cards are dirt cheap so if anyone knows a card that will be substantially faster I would be interested. The main consern is random access speed I believe, so I feel looking at the rating (class 10 and whatnot) is no use. I was looking at a sandisk mobile ultra card based on this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/microsdhc-memory-card-performance,3011-12.html
And I am probably going to buy a 16GB card, maybe 8 or 32 if there is a really good one of those. Any recommendations?
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To answer my own question:
I found this thread, which was quite informative, although full of jabber in between the good posts. And it seems in general the cards with the lowest rated speed perform the best for these purposes, and your safest bet is the sandisk standard class 4 (previously class 2) cards. The samsung class 10 card seems to be a good allrounder, and gives twice the sequential speed at the cost of half the random access speed(this is still more than 10 times higher than most class 10 cards). So I'm probably going to get the sandisk card just to be safe.
I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
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I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
Its up to you~
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
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Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
Averant said:
I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
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Thanks. I do know the difference between TLC & MLC and like I say, I don't think my usage in a phone (fairly static memory use: storage of videos & music primarily, not much in terms of pictures taken with the camera, I'm not rooting so no apps on it) calls for the need in speed or durability. On the other hand, I do need/use that speed in my GoPro Hero4 so there I spare on cost. Like I said, my question was driven more from a curiosity perspective - why are people springing for the more expensive media for use in a smartphone? And more to the point, can the Note 4 really take advantage of that speed? That last question is one I haven't really seen a documented answer on.
Well, seeing as you state that the type of writes will be the general stuff (ie., photos, music, and videos) without running stuff off of the SD, I can safely say that the EVO should be just fine. While testing on benchmarks, I noticed the Note 4 does get better writes and reads with the PRO so the speed is there. But is it completely utilized, I would be inclined to say "no" on that. For the people who have buckets of money, I guess you could buy it but eh. I presume the reason people buy the more expensive is because they assume the higher cost warrants much higher quality and speeds. However, I'm more concerned with the brand and type of flash storage used more than anything. 4K recording is perfectly fine on the EVO and the difference is speed may or may not be noticeable. I bought both because I wanted the MLC flash and wanted to have one just to have one. Later I decided that I rather have more storage over that crazy read speed. As it is from Samsung, their flash memory is EXTREMELY reliable. I haven't had problems yet with any of my 3 flash storage items (840 Pro, PRO microSD, EVO microSD).
Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
I use a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS Memory Card. Haven't had any problems with it.
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Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
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Ya I have the 128GB EVO in my Note 4 right now. I love it. It encode all my movies through handbrake and find that I use up large amounts of space, aside from the FLAQs that I have stored as well. Really, I really doubt you will notice a massive difference in most cases. Video playback, music indexing, 4K recording, and photography should be just fine with the EVO. 4K at 30FPS is still not enough to warrant, in my opinion, an upgrade to the PRO version. It does help to get the PRO but I truly doubt you will need it for much of anything. Samsung is one of the top manufacturers for flash memory.
In the end, its really up to you. I doubt that you will notice the difference in overall speed, if any, between the two versions. If you do, it will be possibly a couple of seconds or something and nothing atrocious like minutes. I'm glad I could help. I'm always on the forums since I started modding my S3. I was just too lazy to make an account and post stuff.
I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
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I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
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Could be risky as it has red flags - significantly lower price coupled with high performance, only 1 review, and a Google search on CoolEStore doesn't turn up much useful info. You're better off sticking with a known brand like SanDisk, Samsung, Lexar. Also, search on Amazon for other products from CoolEStore - a mix of the odd & cheap.
I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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It is separate. Like having an extra HardDrive on your computer. You can store media files on either or both of them.
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I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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It can't merge the two since it uses different technology.
Internal storage is way faster than an SD card.
The two are separated.
"way faster" ..
the SD storage is "way fast" enough for many things you plan to do with the phone. get a fast high speed card (i picked up the 1TB sandisk) .
burst mode on the camera will be forced to internal storage (user cant change that) . i did some early tests yesterday with the phone's video camera in different formats and aspect ratios and the card handled the throughput nicely.
but for installing application, I would prefer on internal storage rather than SD card even with an A2 rated card.
Yes because the constant IO and polling the card consume the battery faster
Plus, there's no security and encrypting / decrypting make it longer.
Can i use sd card with dual sim in note 20 ultra
Anybody can help me to know that, if i am using dual sim (one physical sim and other esim), can i use SD Card in Note 20 Ultra?
malateef said:
Anybody can help me to know that, if i am using dual sim (one physical sim and other esim), can i use SD Card in Note 20 Ultra?
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I don't see why not. If one is an esim, then the microsd slot will be available.
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I don't see why not. If one is an esim, then the microsd slot will be available.
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THANKS,
If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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I have that one in 256gb it's okay but nowhere near as fast as my lexar 1800x but its only avail in 128gb and is 2x the price of the sandisk for half the storage...worth it? Probably not.
LordGMLP said:
If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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I just bought Kingston 'Canvas Go! Plus' 256GB card, also rated as A2 and I have found a few benchmarks showing it is a bit faster than the Sandisk Extreme Pro at a cheaper price . I have my doubt too but gonna try it when the card arrived. The Kingston card has a lifetime warranty, will see how it performs. I am very curious too. Here is one of the reviews I saw: https://pokde.net/system/pc/storage/kingston-canvas-go-plus-microsd-review/
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I just bought Kingston 'Canvas Go! Plus' 256GB card, also rated as A2 and I have found a few benchmarks showing it is a bit faster than the Sandisk Extreme Pro at a cheaper price . I have my doubt too but gonna try it when the card arrived. The Kingston card has a lifetime warranty, will see how it performs. I am very curious too. Here is one of the reviews I saw: https://pokde.net/system/pc/storage/kingston-canvas-go-plus-microsd-review/
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Let me know about that Kingston card once you get it. Run some benchmarks on it.
I literally just ordered the Sandisk 256GB 15 minutes ago on Amazon for $48. The Kingston is $49. The Sandisk is rated 160MB Read and 90MB write. The Kingston is 170MB read and 90MB write. I checked out that review you posted and seems like a great card. I'm thinking about cancelling my order and getting the Kingston card instead.
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force70 said:
I have that one in 256gb it's okay but nowhere near as fast as my lexar 1800x but its only avail in 128gb and is 2x the price of the sandisk for half the storage...worth it? Probably not.
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From my research the Note 20Ultra doesn't support the higher end micro SDcards anyway. I can't remember the technology names (the different classes of Micro SD cards) but I did some research on what SDcard to get and the super fast micro SD's are useless in the Note20 since it doesn't have the proper tech to support the higher speeds. I wish I could remember how to explain it technically, but I can't remember the terms to use.
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Let me know about that Kingston card once you get it. Run some benchmarks on it.
I literally just ordered the Sandisk 256GB 15 minutes ago on Amazon for $48. The Kingston is $49. The Sandisk is rated 160MB Read and 90MB write. The Kingston is 170MB read and 90MB write. I checked out that review you posted and seems like a great card. I'm thinking about cancelling my order and getting the Kingston card instead.
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From my research the Note 20Ultra doesn't support the higher end micro SDcards anyway. I can't remember the technology names (the different classes of Micro SD cards) but I did some research on what SDcard to get and the super fast micro SD's are useless in the Note20 since it doesn't have the proper tech to support the higher speeds. I wish I could remember how to explain it technically, but I can't remember the terms to use.
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In my country the price differ quite a lot so I get the Kingston. Definitely gonna try it esp. on random read and write. You mean UHS-I and UHS-II right? Agree with your point, Note 20 Ultra does not have UHS-II capability, so focusing on random read and write is more logical.
aaronlee0712 said:
In my country the price differ quite a lot so I get the Kingston. Definitely gonna try it esp. on random read and write. You mean UHS-I and UHS-II right? Agree with your point, Note 20 Ultra does not have UHS-II capability, so focusing on random read and write is more logical.
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Yes, UHS I vs UHS II. I'm no expert on SDcards. I did do my research though and found out that the super high-end Micro SD's will not reach their full potential on the Note 20 Ultra. I was trying to find out which one to buy to give me the fastest performance.
I just went to amazon and cancelled my order for the Sandisk and was going to order the Kingston. But I got to checkout and the Kingston wouldn't get here until September 24th! So I ordered the Sandisk again since it will be here on the 2nd
I'd still like to know how that Kingston performs for you. I'm going to run some benchmarks on my Sandisk as well. We could make a thread about it to help other XDA users decide which to get.
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Yes, UHS I vs UHS II. I'm no expert on SDcards. I did do my research though and found out that the super high-end Micro SD's will not reach their full potential on the Note 20 Ultra. I was trying to find out which one to buy to give me the fastest performance.
I just went to amazon and cancelled my order for the Sandisk and was going to order the Kingston. But I got to checkout and the Kingston wouldn't get here until September 24th! So I ordered the Sandisk again since it will be here on the 2nd
I'd still like to know how that Kingston performs for you. I'm going to run some benchmarks on my Sandisk as well. We could make a thread about it to help other XDA users decide which to get.
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Yup, we can compare the performance between these 2 cards. Besides speed, another thing to take into consideration is reliability. My previous S7 Edge is running Samsung Evo card and works reliably for almost 5 years now, although it is slow. This Kingston 'Plus' card is newer version of Canvas! Go, so not sure about the reliability. Sandisk Extreme Pro maybe a more reliable card.
For benchmark, not sure which app to test on phone instead on PC. I have 'Anvil’s Storage Utilities' result for the Sandisk card (128GB) tested by myself and comparing the benchmark results with that review link, Kingston actually surpass Sandisk by a bit. Probably can't feel it in real world use XD.
Btw, I have the Exynos version of Note 20 Ultra. Sadly my courier is taking way too long to deliver my card, bought my Kingston on 17th Aug actually
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Yup, we can compare the performance between these 2 cards. Besides speed, another thing to take into consideration is reliability. My previous S7 Edge is running Samsung Evo card and works reliably for almost 5 years now, although it is slow. This Kingston 'Plus' card is newer version of Canvas! Go, so not sure about the reliability. Sandisk Extreme Pro maybe a more reliable card.
For benchmark, not sure which app to test on phone instead on PC. I have 'Anvil’s Storage Utilities' result for the Sandisk card (128GB) tested by myself and comparing the benchmark results with that review link, Kingston actually surpass Sandisk by a bit. Probably can't feel it in real world use XD.
Btw, I have the Exynos version of Note 20 Ultra. Sadly my courier is taking way too long to deliver my card, bought my Kingston on 17th Aug actually
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I'll have to do some research to find out the best way to test on the phone. I have the SD version but I doubt the SOC matters in a drive speed test.
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I'll have to do some research to find out the best way to test on the phone. I have the SD version but I doubt the SOC matters in a drive speed test.
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I have received my Kingston card and tested it. Using my office PC (WD Blue 1TB SSD) and same card reader (Ugreen brand) for both cards.
Anvil's Storage Utilities benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus (256GB): https://imgur.com/FmSsoX0
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I) (128GB): https://imgur.com/wZ68Ian
CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus (256GB): https://imgur.com/l9u1POG
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I) (128GB): https://imgur.com/QqGNNAE
From the benchmark, Kingston win over Sandisk on almost all criteria but keep in mind that I only tested on 128GB Sandisk card.
Doing a file transfer (Windows 10 ISO file) the speed for Kingston is around 80MB/s while the Sandisk is 75MB/s. I am happy with my purchase Now on my Note 20 Ultra, I have encrypted it but not sure whether it will have an impact on the performance, my guess is it will.
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I have received my Kingston card and tested it. Using my office PC (WD Blue 1TB SSD) and same card reader (Ugreen brand) for both cards.
Anvil's Storage Utilities benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus: https://imgur.com/FmSsoX0
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I): https://imgur.com/wZ68Ian
From the benchmark, Kingston win over Sandisk on almost all criteria.
Doing a file transfer (Windows 10 ISO file) the speed for Kingston is around 80MB/s while the Sandisk is 75MB/s. I am happy with my purchase Now on my Note 20 Ultra, I have encrypted it but not sure whether it will have an impact on the performance, my guess is it will.
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My card gets here Wednesday. Along with my Galaxy Active 2 and my Galaxy Buds Live
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My card gets here Wednesday. Along with my Galaxy Active 2 and my Galaxy Buds Live
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I have edited my reply just now, add in Crystaldiskmark results. I guess there is no significant difference between these 2 cards. Both of them are better than Samsung's Evo XD. Probably best cards for our Note 20 for now.