I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
sparksd said:
I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
Its up to you~
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
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Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
Averant said:
I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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Averant said:
Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
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Thanks. I do know the difference between TLC & MLC and like I say, I don't think my usage in a phone (fairly static memory use: storage of videos & music primarily, not much in terms of pictures taken with the camera, I'm not rooting so no apps on it) calls for the need in speed or durability. On the other hand, I do need/use that speed in my GoPro Hero4 so there I spare on cost. Like I said, my question was driven more from a curiosity perspective - why are people springing for the more expensive media for use in a smartphone? And more to the point, can the Note 4 really take advantage of that speed? That last question is one I haven't really seen a documented answer on.
Well, seeing as you state that the type of writes will be the general stuff (ie., photos, music, and videos) without running stuff off of the SD, I can safely say that the EVO should be just fine. While testing on benchmarks, I noticed the Note 4 does get better writes and reads with the PRO so the speed is there. But is it completely utilized, I would be inclined to say "no" on that. For the people who have buckets of money, I guess you could buy it but eh. I presume the reason people buy the more expensive is because they assume the higher cost warrants much higher quality and speeds. However, I'm more concerned with the brand and type of flash storage used more than anything. 4K recording is perfectly fine on the EVO and the difference is speed may or may not be noticeable. I bought both because I wanted the MLC flash and wanted to have one just to have one. Later I decided that I rather have more storage over that crazy read speed. As it is from Samsung, their flash memory is EXTREMELY reliable. I haven't had problems yet with any of my 3 flash storage items (840 Pro, PRO microSD, EVO microSD).
Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
I use a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS Memory Card. Haven't had any problems with it.
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Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
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Ya I have the 128GB EVO in my Note 4 right now. I love it. It encode all my movies through handbrake and find that I use up large amounts of space, aside from the FLAQs that I have stored as well. Really, I really doubt you will notice a massive difference in most cases. Video playback, music indexing, 4K recording, and photography should be just fine with the EVO. 4K at 30FPS is still not enough to warrant, in my opinion, an upgrade to the PRO version. It does help to get the PRO but I truly doubt you will need it for much of anything. Samsung is one of the top manufacturers for flash memory.
In the end, its really up to you. I doubt that you will notice the difference in overall speed, if any, between the two versions. If you do, it will be possibly a couple of seconds or something and nothing atrocious like minutes. I'm glad I could help. I'm always on the forums since I started modding my S3. I was just too lazy to make an account and post stuff.
I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
DarkMenace said:
I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
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Could be risky as it has red flags - significantly lower price coupled with high performance, only 1 review, and a Google search on CoolEStore doesn't turn up much useful info. You're better off sticking with a known brand like SanDisk, Samsung, Lexar. Also, search on Amazon for other products from CoolEStore - a mix of the odd & cheap.
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Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
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btb601 said:
Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
Mod-oops post in the wrong forum.Can you fix my stupidness and move post to accessories section........thanks
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Moved to Accessories per your request.
I'm now using the 128GB Sandisk I had in my previous Note2, formatted in FAT. So far, so good.
I'm using a 64Gb Smasung Pro, which is supposed to be very fast, only seeing 50Mb/s write and 20Mb/s read. Not very great, so I can imagine and SD card will be about the same. If I could've seen this information first, I would've gone with the 128Gb capacity.
Thanks, thats what I was thinking. Some snake oil to help boost their sales.
I recently checked all of the cards I have and the Samsung Pro (new version) absolutely destroyed everything I had. I put them all into the same usb 3 card reader and copied a big file to them. The samsung Pro wrote at 60 Mbps, the Sandisc extreme wrote at 38 Mbps. My 64 gb Sandisc Ultra wrote at 10 Mbps. It's something to think about seeing how you are going to have this card for a while. I plan on getting the new GoPro and I would be worried that even the Sandisc Extreme would have problems with 4K at 30fps. You may regret getting that ultra.
btb601 said:
Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
Mod-oops post in the wrong forum.Can you fix my stupidness and move post to accessories section........thanks
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There's no difference when the card is in the phone. It won't be faster for recording 4k or file retrieval when it's in the phone. You'd only need a faster card if you intend to take it out and plug it into a USB 3.0 card reader, or use it in a GoPro 4 Black.
Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
mitko76 said:
Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
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Nice work.
I have 64 gigs evo and get speeds pretty much of the order of what you mentioned. And i think evo is alright for note 4 unless you want to plug the card in your laptop.
maksharma231 said:
Nice work.
I have 64 gigs evo and get speeds pretty much of the order of what you mentioned. And i think evo is alright for note 4 unless you want to plug the card in your laptop.
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Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
mitko76 said:
Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
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yup that extra bit of speed is worth the extra price
i am looking to buy the pro or the sandisk extreme for the 4k video capture. any ideas on which is better?
ghost13 said:
i am looking to buy the pro or the sandisk extreme for the 4k video capture. any ideas on which is better?
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I would say the pro that is what I will be going with!
mitko76 said:
Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
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How did you get those benchmark results?
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How did you get those benchmark results?
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using the 'A1 SD Bench' app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en
mitko76 said:
Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
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Which UHS-I card reader are you using? I was about to buy the one from Kingston.
CODENEX said:
Which UHS-I card reader are you using? I was about to buy the one from Kingston.
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it is probably the same http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-Technology-MobileLite-Multi-Reader/dp/B00KX4TORI
Hello,
I apologize if this question has already been made but I have a little concerns regarding this matter.
I recently bought the Honor 6 online and I'll receive it soon. I'd like some advice for buying a microSD card that meets my needs.
I'd like to buy a 64gb card that is fast enough (mainly for music and also apps), so I'd avoid cheap cards (unless you assure they're more than ok).
I've made some researches and I'm a bit confused about few points.
What do I really need to check in a card? Is it true that for mobiles the most important thing to see in a sd card are the random Read/Write (512K) speeds? Or else I need to check its sequential speed?
According to a lot of speed tests, SanDisk Extreme Pro is one of the fastest sd cards out there but I also read that SanDisk cards have a quite high failure rate after few months of use (true or not?). Being expensive I've no idea if it would be worth or not.
There are also Samsung Pro+, Transcend 633x, Lexar 1033x etc.. They are quite expensive in Europe and I've totally no idea if my future Honor 6 will be able to benefit to all their fast speed.
I've read this review http://www.anandtech.com/show/8425/huawei-honor-6-review/9 and I'm a bit concerned what the reviewer wrote about the Honor 6, I quote the exact text:
"The Honor 6 offers also a microSD card slot in case you want to expand your storage. The OS offers full exFat compatibility and I had no issues with my Samsung Pro 64GB card. I was however disappointed to see that the HiSilicon chip suffers from the same limitation that plagues other SoCs for no good reason: the DWMMC controller in charge of the SD-card is limited to SDR50 speeds, meaning that you won't be able to exceed ~35mB/s transfer speeds on your microSD, no matter how fast it actually is. It still baffles me that OEMs refuse to address this even almost 2 years after the first UHS-1 cards have been made widely available. "
Is this actually true?
Which microSD you recommend me?
ziovelvet said:
Hello,
IWhich microSD you recommend me?
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Clearly UHS-1 card is the best balance between performance and cost. According to your research.
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I currently have a 64 GB S6, and I'm thinking of upgrading to a 32 GB S7 with an 128 GB SD card. (I can upgrade through work and sell my S6, so I'll even come out ahead.)
I know that access to the 128 GB SD card is slower than to internal storage, but how much exactly? Would that affect my user experience at all? Would I notice if files are read from, or written to, the SD card on the S7 compared to the internal storage on my current S6?
Any recommendations for specific SD card to put in the S7?
Thanks!
--Ron
Fastest card you can get would be the Samsung Pro Plus.
And they're priced accordingly, too: $150 for 95 Mb/x, 128 GB on Amazon. Would an 80 Mb/s EVO+ (at about $60 less than half) make a lot of difference in user experience?
(By the way, I'm not a gamer at all, so I doubt I'll have games or other very large apps on the SD card, just media such as photos, music, etc.)
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And they're priced accordingly, too: $150 for 95 Mb/x, 128 GB on Amazon. Would an 80 Mb/s EVO+ (at about $60 less than half) make a lot of difference in user experience?
(By the way, I'm not a gamer at all, so I doubt I'll have games or other very large apps on the SD card, just media such as photos, music, etc.)
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I paid $93 for the 128GB Pro Plus direct from Samsung. I'd say at that price its better to skip the Evo altogether. As for speed the Evo will probably do what you want. I was using a Toshiba class 10 for the past year and a half and had zero speed issues but wanted to jump to the Pro Plus for the extra capacity and to have the speed for HD recording.
I use the Sandisk 128GB 80MB/s without any problem at all, came from S6 64GB, have not noticed any major difference, it works good enough.
Tapatalked from GALAXY S7
[email protected] said:
I use the Sandisk 128GB 80MB/s without any problem at all, came from S6 64GB, have not noticed any major difference, it works good enough.
Tapatalked from GALAXY S7
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@[email protected], since you already did what I'm considering doing, how's the upgrade from S6 to S7 been for you? Are you liking it? Something you'd recommend? How's the S7 camera holding up compared to the S6? (I know the reviews are generally very favorable, but it's always good to get the opinion of someone who's actually made the jump.)
--Ron
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hmm, for me I really wanted IP68 and microSD, so it was worth the upgrade, bu also the better battery life and better camera, I love the instant focus... so I would say it was worth the jump, but bare in mind I do get my phone through work so I don't pay for them.
Paid 39$ at best buy on a price match for a 64gb pro plus Samsung
More than read speed for specs on a card.
Hi, I'm about to get this phone (hopefully without factory defects) and I was getting the usual stuff (case, glass, etc...) when I stumbled with the purchase of an SD card to expand the memory (I'll go with 128 gb I don't think I'll need more). There are pretty sick offers on Amazon but lots of reviews reveal that the card is either counterfeit or for some reason it doesn't perform as it says.
Do you think buying in person at Best Buy/Walmart is more reliable (even if I have to pay a bit more)? What SD card are you using that gives you satisfactory results?
Thanks for reading.
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Well, I may be wrong, but the max size that RN6P supports is 128GB, you couldn't use a bigger one if you want. I'm currently using a Samsung EVO 32GB that I bought 3 years ago. It's good, I use it to store my photos and videos, also have my ROMs to play on emulator. I have no problems recording 1080p videos.
Nowadays you'll probably find better sdcard rated for 4K videos, but the 1080p ones have pretty good price, they have generally 80-100MB/s transfering speed. Anyway you must look for class 10 or better sdcards if you want a good one.