Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
mitko76 said:
Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
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Nice work.
I have 64 gigs evo and get speeds pretty much of the order of what you mentioned. And i think evo is alright for note 4 unless you want to plug the card in your laptop.
maksharma231 said:
Nice work.
I have 64 gigs evo and get speeds pretty much of the order of what you mentioned. And i think evo is alright for note 4 unless you want to plug the card in your laptop.
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Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
mitko76 said:
Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
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yup that extra bit of speed is worth the extra price
i am looking to buy the pro or the sandisk extreme for the 4k video capture. any ideas on which is better?
ghost13 said:
i am looking to buy the pro or the sandisk extreme for the 4k video capture. any ideas on which is better?
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I would say the pro that is what I will be going with!
mitko76 said:
Hi,
I spend a few hours searching the net for a benchmark comparison between samsung 64gb evo and pro micro sd cards and I could not find any. I had a bad experience with sandisk and that is why I only really considered samsung cards.
Cards specs:
Evo: speeds are Up to 48 MB/s. I've seen many tests which proves read speed of around 45-48mbs and write speed of 19-20mbs.
Pro: Up to 90MB/s Read (UHS-I Interface) and Up to 80MB/s Write (UHS-I Interface).
However I was not sure if note 4 can actually utilize (i.e. take advantage) this serious speeds.
Anyway I bought the 64gb pro and I can tell you this little card is extremely fast. Indeed I get the 90-80mbs speeds with an uhs-i adapter connected to my laptop.
As for the note 4, it is still faster than the evo, but not by much. The write speed is 28.99mbs. (so, it is still about 50% faster than the evo) - screenshot attached.
Hope this helps someone.
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How did you get those benchmark results?
8thos said:
How did you get those benchmark results?
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using the 'A1 SD Bench' app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a1dev.sdbench&hl=en
mitko76 said:
Agree with you mate, evo is enough for note 4.
However we paid a lot for the note 4 and I think this phone deserves paying £25 more (compared to evo) and get the fastest possible card.
I was stunned when I copied 200mb of mp3s for like 2 second (that is when I used it with the laptop).
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Which UHS-I card reader are you using? I was about to buy the one from Kingston.
CODENEX said:
Which UHS-I card reader are you using? I was about to buy the one from Kingston.
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it is probably the same http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-Technology-MobileLite-Multi-Reader/dp/B00KX4TORI
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Hello,
I have a 8go storage for now but I'm getting close to be out of space (I have like 700mo left).
I would like to buy a 16go sd card but I'm not sure which one...
I have a nexus one rooted (with A2SD) so I don't really know what I should or shouldn't take. (because 20$ of difference between two "same" card is suspicious )
Could you help me ?
Best regards,
rXp>!<
Sandisk is a reputable manufacturer, Kingston is another, but make sure you also use a reputable retailer so that you don't end up with a knock-off.
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2 so unless you are planning on using the card in a dedicated card-reader a lot, or are thinking of future use, i wouldn't worry about spending premium amounts on faster cards.
min. class 4 is a must but you could look for class 6
DirkGently1 said:
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2.
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And your source is?
DirkGently1 said:
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2
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Of course it can, delve into the 720p recording thread...
I found class 2 or class 10. Better go for a class 10 or it is not recommended ?
OrganizedFellow said:
And your source is?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937622&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711175&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739643&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680439&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656908&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736751&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
Rusty! said:
The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
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This is true. My PC transfer speed is insanely slow. Took over 6 hours to transfer 8GB of data (was re-partitioning and did not have my microsd adapter)
A 16GB class 4 chip should be about $30, unless you jump on a special deal.
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The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
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Obviously, but transferring files is the only reason why you would need a faster card. With the N1 seemingly capped at low speeds..yadda,yadda,yadda...
No it's not.
Recording in HD will require a decent speed, running data/dalvik-cache off SD-EXT will require a decent speed (things are noticeably slower on my C4 when I do that).
I've used a Class 2, Class 4 and Class 6 card on my N1 without any noticeable difference. I've put a clock on metrics like app launch times without any difference in the results.
People who spend extra $$ on faster cards convince themselves that they notice a difference to justify their spend. I wanted my Class 6 to make an improvement in daily usage but it didn't. I have to put it in a card reader so that i get any benefit from it, and that's only justified for transferring large amounts of data as you have to consider the time needed to remove/replace the card.
so personal expierences = fact now?
because I notice a major difference between my class 2 and class 6 in my N1
so that makes a new fact now
Can we have some facts on this issue?
For example, is it faster to take pictures if you have a faster class speed?
Is it faster in executing tasks?
etc.
Anyone have any results?
I'm thinking of getting a class 10 microsd card for record 720p video.
So far I've used Kingmax 16GB Class 10 with no problem.
I just bought a Sandisk 32gb MicroSDHC Class 2, hope it will work fine with everything, need a lot of space for music
I'm using a Patriot 16GB Class 10. Overkill? Maybe - depends on who you ask. But if you're putting the system cache on the card and recording HD video, it certainly doesn't hurt.
jonno2k said:
I'm using a Patriot 16GB Class 10. Overkill? Maybe - depends on who you ask. But if you're putting the system cache on the card and recording HD video, it certainly doesn't hurt.
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I was thinking of buying that microsd card from PC CASE GEAR.
DirkGently1 said:
Sandisk is a reputable manufacturer, Kingston is another, but make sure you also use a reputable retailer so that you don't end up with a knock-off.
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2 so unless you are planning on using the card in a dedicated card-reader a lot, or are thinking of future use, i wouldn't worry about spending premium amounts on faster cards.
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r u sure it cant handle more than class 2 ? i am not sure, but think its matter of card , HW of N1 is speedygonzales
personaly i would look for something like:
since i cant post link:
ADATA Micro SD 32GB SDHC class 4
Speed (read) : 10~14 (MB/s)**
Speed (write) : 2~5 (MB/s)**
Speed Class : Class 4
its cheap , it worth a try
what would be the fastest micro sd 64gb card for Z1c?Having sandisk mobile ultra but write aroud 7.5mb/s
I'm using Samsung 64Gb sdxd Read 30mb/s Write 20mb/s -
As for the fastest there is Toshiba 64gb USH-2 Micro SD Read 260mb/s 120mb/s Write speed.
Supposedly SanDisk Extreme 64Gb is fastest sdxd Read 80mb/s and Write 50mb/s
I bought this Sony microSDXC and am very happy with its speed.
mmceorange said:
I bought this Sony microSDXC and am very happy with its speed.
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I too was lookin @ this but that dosent ship to my country.I was thinking either trancend 300x or new samsung evo 48mb/sec one.acoording to tomshardware comparison trancesnd 300x is overall good.but wanted to know how those perform in Z1c..
New Folder said:
I'm using Samsung 64Gb sdxd Read 30mb/s Write 20mb/s -
As for the fastest there is Toshiba 64gb USH-2 Micro SD Read 260mb/s 120mb/s Write speed.
Supposedly SanDisk Extreme 64Gb is fastest sdxd Read 80mb/s and Write 50mb/s
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Im not sure Z1c supports UHS speeds?
mmceorange said:
I bought this Sony microSDXC and am very happy with its speed.
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I have this one, just 32GB version.
its good fast card but its not as fast as the internal memory. example i can shoot 1080p 60fps video with no prob, but it cant take the fast burst mode on the camera, it slows down
4k video.
I'm looking at a 64gb card that can handle 4k vid recording from Z1 Compact so will the std one be ok or is there a minimum requirement?
Lasantha said:
Im not sure Z1c supports UHS speeds?
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it doesn't.. it sucks at 30/25 R/W only.
using this http://www.strontium.biz/products/flash-cards/microsd-cards/64gb-uhs1-u3-microsd-nitro-plus
on pc, speed is as advertised. but on Z1C i get 30/25 ish
Found something good .its new samsung evo 64. got for $40.look at images.one is in laptop sd slot .other inside z1c conected to lap using data cable.speeds are really good compaired to my sandiks write speeds
I also got the Samsung Evo 64. At first everything seemed fine but soon after I found I now have problems with the Z1C's camera when the Evo 64 is inserted into the phone. At first it starts lagging and then it crashes and can only then be fixed by a reboot.
Is anybody else experiencing problems with Z1C + Samsung Evo 64?
I'm quite sure the problem is specific to the Evo 64 card since I tested several other micro sd cards I had flying around (2gb noname, 8gb transcend,..) which all worked just fine and didn't crash the camera..
So maybe a non-UHS card is the better choice for the Z1C?
Lasantha said:
Im not sure Z1c supports UHS speeds?
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Actually it does, I am currently using this Sandisk Extreme Pro 32Gb micro SD.
It is very expensive but believe me results are very much pleasing...album thumbnails take no time to load at all and movies thumbnails alike. Therefore I can confirm a 32 GB UHS-1 SD Card can indeed be used by the Z1C, I just have no idea about the 64 GB Uhs cards
bought this 64gb card for 25 bucks on black friday: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M55C1I2/ref=pe_385040_127541860_TE_dp_1
works like a charm
Lasantha said:
what would be the fastest micro sd 64gb card for Z1c?Having sandisk mobile ultra but write aroud 7.5mb/s
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I will never go with sandisk again. I bought samsung pro for my tab and z3, very contented with 40MB/sec speed. I bought Samsung evo for my brother for his Z1c. I guess samsung is the most reliable for memory cards. SanDisk just suddenly corrupted itself (their xtreme 64gb). It wasn't just a software failure but the controller chip failed (and it was also confirmed by the tech)
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Is it kingston really that bad for nobody ever mentioned??
Here in mexico it is almost the only option to choose for
Altherion said:
Is it kingston really that bad for nobody ever mentioned??
Here in mexico it is almost the only option to choose for
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Yeah sort off. I have many Kingston before that fail and there high ends are really slow, hence cheap.
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infinitylook said:
Yeah sort off. I have many Kingston before that fail and there high ends are really slow, hence cheap.
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What a shame...
When I got my Z1c last december I quickly get one 32GB Kingston that is what i'm currently using with my device, mostly to store music, that is what I really matter to manage with it.
But it happens that my music catalog is growing fast over 30GB, so i'm interested in a 64GB SD... Think I need to start looking for that Samsung cards.
This is the one I use
Samsung Pro 64GB microSDXC UHS-1 Card.
Read Speed: Upto 90MB/s
Write Speed: Upto 80MB/s
This thing is wicked fast!
The review of this MicroSD card is on The SSD Review website. I can't post links unfortunately :crying:
In the review, it's actual speeds are extremely close to it's rated speeds. It's expensive though.
I will PM you the link.
I'm using the Samsung Evo 64GB. Works flawless.
I personally use Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Cards, UHS-1 up to 95Mb/s Read/Write Speed, kinda pricey but they're also waterproof
Revontheus said:
I personally use Sandisk Extreme Pro SD Cards, UHS-1 up to 95Mb/s Read/Write Speed, kinda pricey but they're also waterproof
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Samsung Pro and evo is also waterproof and xray proof. All high end cards are waterproof nowadays
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Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
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btb601 said:
Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
Mod-oops post in the wrong forum.Can you fix my stupidness and move post to accessories section........thanks
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Moved to Accessories per your request.
I'm now using the 128GB Sandisk I had in my previous Note2, formatted in FAT. So far, so good.
I'm using a 64Gb Smasung Pro, which is supposed to be very fast, only seeing 50Mb/s write and 20Mb/s read. Not very great, so I can imagine and SD card will be about the same. If I could've seen this information first, I would've gone with the 128Gb capacity.
Thanks, thats what I was thinking. Some snake oil to help boost their sales.
I recently checked all of the cards I have and the Samsung Pro (new version) absolutely destroyed everything I had. I put them all into the same usb 3 card reader and copied a big file to them. The samsung Pro wrote at 60 Mbps, the Sandisc extreme wrote at 38 Mbps. My 64 gb Sandisc Ultra wrote at 10 Mbps. It's something to think about seeing how you are going to have this card for a while. I plan on getting the new GoPro and I would be worried that even the Sandisc Extreme would have problems with 4K at 30fps. You may regret getting that ultra.
btb601 said:
Just wondering if I would notice the deference in the small variety of Sandisk cards?
I would like to get the 128 gb, but looks like the slower older like cards. Then there is the super dupper ultra cards.
Is the Note 4 gonna notice the difference one way or the other?
Mod-oops post in the wrong forum.Can you fix my stupidness and move post to accessories section........thanks
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There's no difference when the card is in the phone. It won't be faster for recording 4k or file retrieval when it's in the phone. You'd only need a faster card if you intend to take it out and plug it into a USB 3.0 card reader, or use it in a GoPro 4 Black.
I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
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I have seen a variety of statements regarding the useful speed of SD cards that the Note 4 is capable of, in particular that a card like the Samsung PRO (90MBs) is overkill and the EVO model (48MBs) is good enough (i.e., it's at the max speed that the Note 4 can use). Is the Note 4 limited to about 50MBs on the internal microSD?
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
Its up to you~
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I use EVO-equivalent SanDisk cards in a couple of devices and don't see any issues with apps that actually access the cards, either reading or writing - that in my mind is the true test of interest to me, not pure benchmarking results. But I was really curious as to the benefits people were seeing with the faster cards to determine if the price premium was worth it. As to durability, do you think that will make much difference given the relative limited lifetime and read/write cycles that consumers use the cards for?
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Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
Averant said:
I currently have both the Samsung Pro (64GB version) and the EVO (128GB version). I noticed a few things:
The read speed of the Pro is crazy and seems to be not held back by much. I can hit crazy speeds in both Random and Sequential.
I presume the limiting factor is the write speed which I am truely unsure of that.
Do you really need THAT crazy read speeds. Really, I only bought the Pro for its durability of its MLC vs the TLC in the EVO.
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Really, I doubt that the speed of the PRO is perfectly utilized in the Note 4 or any phone for that matter. On something like a GoPro 4 Black, then the answer would be yes. EVO in terms of speed is quite fine. Unless if you are running stuff off the SD, I doubt there is much of a difference. There are different scenarios where the faster PRO version would make a difference, so you would have to detail to me what you plan on using it for and in which way. As for durability, SD cards will not last AS long as their SSD counterparts. That being said, MLC will last MANY times long, emphasis on many, then its TLC. If you don't understand the difference let me know becuase it makes no sense for me to say all these things and for you to not understand it. Not only is the speed of read/write in both sequencial and random superior, its life is MASSIVELY greater. Now if you will notice the difference, that again falls to how you use it. I have killed several SanDisk Ultra cards but I like Samsung flash memory (I have their 512GB 840 Pro SSD) as I know they are reliable. But same could be said about SanDisk. Some live by that brand so I'm just on the part of these 2 things:
How do you plan on using the microSD?
What size do you need?
What brand do you like more?
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Thanks. I do know the difference between TLC & MLC and like I say, I don't think my usage in a phone (fairly static memory use: storage of videos & music primarily, not much in terms of pictures taken with the camera, I'm not rooting so no apps on it) calls for the need in speed or durability. On the other hand, I do need/use that speed in my GoPro Hero4 so there I spare on cost. Like I said, my question was driven more from a curiosity perspective - why are people springing for the more expensive media for use in a smartphone? And more to the point, can the Note 4 really take advantage of that speed? That last question is one I haven't really seen a documented answer on.
Well, seeing as you state that the type of writes will be the general stuff (ie., photos, music, and videos) without running stuff off of the SD, I can safely say that the EVO should be just fine. While testing on benchmarks, I noticed the Note 4 does get better writes and reads with the PRO so the speed is there. But is it completely utilized, I would be inclined to say "no" on that. For the people who have buckets of money, I guess you could buy it but eh. I presume the reason people buy the more expensive is because they assume the higher cost warrants much higher quality and speeds. However, I'm more concerned with the brand and type of flash storage used more than anything. 4K recording is perfectly fine on the EVO and the difference is speed may or may not be noticeable. I bought both because I wanted the MLC flash and wanted to have one just to have one. Later I decided that I rather have more storage over that crazy read speed. As it is from Samsung, their flash memory is EXTREMELY reliable. I haven't had problems yet with any of my 3 flash storage items (840 Pro, PRO microSD, EVO microSD).
Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
I use a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS Memory Card. Haven't had any problems with it.
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Are you using the Samsung 128GB EVO card, then? I was looking at that one myself and that's what got me looking more closely at the "real-world" differences between the EVO and PRO. I've actually been a user of multitudes of SanDisk cards for many years - many kinds in a variety of devices - and have never had a problem but I may go with Samsung on this one. And thanks for many replies.
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Ya I have the 128GB EVO in my Note 4 right now. I love it. It encode all my movies through handbrake and find that I use up large amounts of space, aside from the FLAQs that I have stored as well. Really, I really doubt you will notice a massive difference in most cases. Video playback, music indexing, 4K recording, and photography should be just fine with the EVO. 4K at 30FPS is still not enough to warrant, in my opinion, an upgrade to the PRO version. It does help to get the PRO but I truly doubt you will need it for much of anything. Samsung is one of the top manufacturers for flash memory.
In the end, its really up to you. I doubt that you will notice the difference in overall speed, if any, between the two versions. If you do, it will be possibly a couple of seconds or something and nothing atrocious like minutes. I'm glad I could help. I'm always on the forums since I started modding my S3. I was just too lazy to make an account and post stuff.
I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
DarkMenace said:
I noticed the Samsung/Sandisk ones are only 48MB/s read speeds. I found this on Amazon however CoolEStore OV 128GB Class 10 Micro SD CARD SDXC TF HIGH PERFORMANCE Flash Memory Card UHS-1 READ SPEED up to 80MB/s?
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Could be risky as it has red flags - significantly lower price coupled with high performance, only 1 review, and a Google search on CoolEStore doesn't turn up much useful info. You're better off sticking with a known brand like SanDisk, Samsung, Lexar. Also, search on Amazon for other products from CoolEStore - a mix of the odd & cheap.
I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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It is separate. Like having an extra HardDrive on your computer. You can store media files on either or both of them.
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I haven't had an android phone with an SD card since the OG Moto G days and I have heard every now and then that the way they're handled has changed?
Will the Galaxy Note 20 still keep the SD card and the internal storage separate and use the SD card for media, or does it combine the two in to a larger storage area?
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It can't merge the two since it uses different technology.
Internal storage is way faster than an SD card.
The two are separated.
"way faster" ..
the SD storage is "way fast" enough for many things you plan to do with the phone. get a fast high speed card (i picked up the 1TB sandisk) .
burst mode on the camera will be forced to internal storage (user cant change that) . i did some early tests yesterday with the phone's video camera in different formats and aspect ratios and the card handled the throughput nicely.
but for installing application, I would prefer on internal storage rather than SD card even with an A2 rated card.
Yes because the constant IO and polling the card consume the battery faster
Plus, there's no security and encrypting / decrypting make it longer.
Can i use sd card with dual sim in note 20 ultra
Anybody can help me to know that, if i am using dual sim (one physical sim and other esim), can i use SD Card in Note 20 Ultra?
malateef said:
Anybody can help me to know that, if i am using dual sim (one physical sim and other esim), can i use SD Card in Note 20 Ultra?
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I don't see why not. If one is an esim, then the microsd slot will be available.
barry99705 said:
I don't see why not. If one is an esim, then the microsd slot will be available.
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THANKS,
If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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I have that one in 256gb it's okay but nowhere near as fast as my lexar 1800x but its only avail in 128gb and is 2x the price of the sandisk for half the storage...worth it? Probably not.
LordGMLP said:
If you want best speed performance go with the A2 rated Sandisk Extreme or Extreme Pro. They are expensive of course. For my day to day use I just settled with Samsung EVO Plus microSD. Does the job competently at budget friendly price.
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I just bought Kingston 'Canvas Go! Plus' 256GB card, also rated as A2 and I have found a few benchmarks showing it is a bit faster than the Sandisk Extreme Pro at a cheaper price . I have my doubt too but gonna try it when the card arrived. The Kingston card has a lifetime warranty, will see how it performs. I am very curious too. Here is one of the reviews I saw: https://pokde.net/system/pc/storage/kingston-canvas-go-plus-microsd-review/
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I just bought Kingston 'Canvas Go! Plus' 256GB card, also rated as A2 and I have found a few benchmarks showing it is a bit faster than the Sandisk Extreme Pro at a cheaper price . I have my doubt too but gonna try it when the card arrived. The Kingston card has a lifetime warranty, will see how it performs. I am very curious too. Here is one of the reviews I saw: https://pokde.net/system/pc/storage/kingston-canvas-go-plus-microsd-review/
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Let me know about that Kingston card once you get it. Run some benchmarks on it.
I literally just ordered the Sandisk 256GB 15 minutes ago on Amazon for $48. The Kingston is $49. The Sandisk is rated 160MB Read and 90MB write. The Kingston is 170MB read and 90MB write. I checked out that review you posted and seems like a great card. I'm thinking about cancelling my order and getting the Kingston card instead.
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I have that one in 256gb it's okay but nowhere near as fast as my lexar 1800x but its only avail in 128gb and is 2x the price of the sandisk for half the storage...worth it? Probably not.
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From my research the Note 20Ultra doesn't support the higher end micro SDcards anyway. I can't remember the technology names (the different classes of Micro SD cards) but I did some research on what SDcard to get and the super fast micro SD's are useless in the Note20 since it doesn't have the proper tech to support the higher speeds. I wish I could remember how to explain it technically, but I can't remember the terms to use.
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Let me know about that Kingston card once you get it. Run some benchmarks on it.
I literally just ordered the Sandisk 256GB 15 minutes ago on Amazon for $48. The Kingston is $49. The Sandisk is rated 160MB Read and 90MB write. The Kingston is 170MB read and 90MB write. I checked out that review you posted and seems like a great card. I'm thinking about cancelling my order and getting the Kingston card instead.
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From my research the Note 20Ultra doesn't support the higher end micro SDcards anyway. I can't remember the technology names (the different classes of Micro SD cards) but I did some research on what SDcard to get and the super fast micro SD's are useless in the Note20 since it doesn't have the proper tech to support the higher speeds. I wish I could remember how to explain it technically, but I can't remember the terms to use.
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In my country the price differ quite a lot so I get the Kingston. Definitely gonna try it esp. on random read and write. You mean UHS-I and UHS-II right? Agree with your point, Note 20 Ultra does not have UHS-II capability, so focusing on random read and write is more logical.
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In my country the price differ quite a lot so I get the Kingston. Definitely gonna try it esp. on random read and write. You mean UHS-I and UHS-II right? Agree with your point, Note 20 Ultra does not have UHS-II capability, so focusing on random read and write is more logical.
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Yes, UHS I vs UHS II. I'm no expert on SDcards. I did do my research though and found out that the super high-end Micro SD's will not reach their full potential on the Note 20 Ultra. I was trying to find out which one to buy to give me the fastest performance.
I just went to amazon and cancelled my order for the Sandisk and was going to order the Kingston. But I got to checkout and the Kingston wouldn't get here until September 24th! So I ordered the Sandisk again since it will be here on the 2nd
I'd still like to know how that Kingston performs for you. I'm going to run some benchmarks on my Sandisk as well. We could make a thread about it to help other XDA users decide which to get.
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Yes, UHS I vs UHS II. I'm no expert on SDcards. I did do my research though and found out that the super high-end Micro SD's will not reach their full potential on the Note 20 Ultra. I was trying to find out which one to buy to give me the fastest performance.
I just went to amazon and cancelled my order for the Sandisk and was going to order the Kingston. But I got to checkout and the Kingston wouldn't get here until September 24th! So I ordered the Sandisk again since it will be here on the 2nd
I'd still like to know how that Kingston performs for you. I'm going to run some benchmarks on my Sandisk as well. We could make a thread about it to help other XDA users decide which to get.
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Yup, we can compare the performance between these 2 cards. Besides speed, another thing to take into consideration is reliability. My previous S7 Edge is running Samsung Evo card and works reliably for almost 5 years now, although it is slow. This Kingston 'Plus' card is newer version of Canvas! Go, so not sure about the reliability. Sandisk Extreme Pro maybe a more reliable card.
For benchmark, not sure which app to test on phone instead on PC. I have 'Anvil’s Storage Utilities' result for the Sandisk card (128GB) tested by myself and comparing the benchmark results with that review link, Kingston actually surpass Sandisk by a bit. Probably can't feel it in real world use XD.
Btw, I have the Exynos version of Note 20 Ultra. Sadly my courier is taking way too long to deliver my card, bought my Kingston on 17th Aug actually
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Yup, we can compare the performance between these 2 cards. Besides speed, another thing to take into consideration is reliability. My previous S7 Edge is running Samsung Evo card and works reliably for almost 5 years now, although it is slow. This Kingston 'Plus' card is newer version of Canvas! Go, so not sure about the reliability. Sandisk Extreme Pro maybe a more reliable card.
For benchmark, not sure which app to test on phone instead on PC. I have 'Anvil’s Storage Utilities' result for the Sandisk card (128GB) tested by myself and comparing the benchmark results with that review link, Kingston actually surpass Sandisk by a bit. Probably can't feel it in real world use XD.
Btw, I have the Exynos version of Note 20 Ultra. Sadly my courier is taking way too long to deliver my card, bought my Kingston on 17th Aug actually
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I'll have to do some research to find out the best way to test on the phone. I have the SD version but I doubt the SOC matters in a drive speed test.
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I'll have to do some research to find out the best way to test on the phone. I have the SD version but I doubt the SOC matters in a drive speed test.
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I have received my Kingston card and tested it. Using my office PC (WD Blue 1TB SSD) and same card reader (Ugreen brand) for both cards.
Anvil's Storage Utilities benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus (256GB): https://imgur.com/FmSsoX0
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I) (128GB): https://imgur.com/wZ68Ian
CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus (256GB): https://imgur.com/l9u1POG
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I) (128GB): https://imgur.com/QqGNNAE
From the benchmark, Kingston win over Sandisk on almost all criteria but keep in mind that I only tested on 128GB Sandisk card.
Doing a file transfer (Windows 10 ISO file) the speed for Kingston is around 80MB/s while the Sandisk is 75MB/s. I am happy with my purchase Now on my Note 20 Ultra, I have encrypted it but not sure whether it will have an impact on the performance, my guess is it will.
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I have received my Kingston card and tested it. Using my office PC (WD Blue 1TB SSD) and same card reader (Ugreen brand) for both cards.
Anvil's Storage Utilities benchmark results:
Kingston Canvas Go! Plus: https://imgur.com/FmSsoX0
Sandisk Extreme Pro (UHS-I): https://imgur.com/wZ68Ian
From the benchmark, Kingston win over Sandisk on almost all criteria.
Doing a file transfer (Windows 10 ISO file) the speed for Kingston is around 80MB/s while the Sandisk is 75MB/s. I am happy with my purchase Now on my Note 20 Ultra, I have encrypted it but not sure whether it will have an impact on the performance, my guess is it will.
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My card gets here Wednesday. Along with my Galaxy Active 2 and my Galaxy Buds Live
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My card gets here Wednesday. Along with my Galaxy Active 2 and my Galaxy Buds Live
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I have edited my reply just now, add in Crystaldiskmark results. I guess there is no significant difference between these 2 cards. Both of them are better than Samsung's Evo XD. Probably best cards for our Note 20 for now.