Hello,
Now that Froyo more or less came out and apps will start having Apps2SD function, it's time for a MicroSD upgrade.
What I want is on-phone performance - that running heavy 3D games on SD would perform as smoothly as if it was on internal memory. Is there a general consensus on what brand/class would suffice, and what is overkill? I have no concern over data cable transfer speed, as I'm pretty sure the phone will limit the speed much before the SD card does.
I'm looking at this Sandisk 16gb MicroSDHC Class 2 for $35 after shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Flash...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1275145563&sr=1-1
Anyone know if this would suffice?
Past threads have always went on tangents about good brand vs knock offs, how class is important vs. a marketing ploy, etc etc. Has a general consensus been reached in the xda community over what is sufficient but not overkill for onboard performance? Perhaps people who have already ran App2SD and use games and videos a lot have some input.
Thanks
I have a Top Ram 16 Gig class 6 and I think I paid about the same as you looking to pay for a class2. I also have a class2 that I have had for over a year. I used to use it in my blackberry. It still works and it is made by one of the cheap manufacturers.
Argh, I'm suffering from chronic SD corruption. So I'm in the market for a new chip. Think I'll spring for a 32gb this time. What's the latest on one that's both compatible and fast? And cheap too, that would be nice, links appreciated.
Considering that due to the amount of RAM the N1 has your main apps will be loaded already so card speed is not a significant factor, unless you use lots of different apps on a regular basis.
A faster card is beneficial mostly for the time i takes when I am loading up new music and possibly vids if you use it for that
This is the first 32gb MicroSD card I have seen "In Stock" Pretty expensive for a class 2 though.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...crosdhc-32-gb-retail/q/loc/101/215191110.html
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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
You can get a 16gb class 10 for about $90.00.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036V5DGG...e=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0036V5DGG
frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
bewar ebay, there a lot of folks selling fake cards. They even read as what they were sold as but then fill up mighty quick............
The class is not needed I don't think
I have a class six and have been running games on it from sd for 3 months cant tell a bit of difference. I run linpack from sd and it works fine too!
the only real 32gb card is found here., http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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no f-ing way that is real for $30
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
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I'm running a 32gb Sandisk Class 2 in my Nexus as of last Friday. No problems (apart from a looooong time to refresh the media library after resyncing my music).
You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
wikipedia said:
In applications that require sustained write throughput, such as video recording, the device may not perform satisfactorily if the SD card's class rating falls below a particular speed. For example, a camcorder that is designed to record to class 6 media may suffer dropouts or corrupted video on slower media.
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The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic wand and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic want and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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Thanks for the info man! I was obviously misinformed, you just saved me a bunch of money
so just curious. now that CM 5.0.8 comes with 720p recording, would a class 2 still suffice?
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)... If the speed of v2.1 w/o app2sd is acceptable to you, then v2.2 with 6-7M write speed card should be logically fine with you.
fshek said:
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)...
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huh that's interesting. i just might pick that up from amazon then..
I Dont think fragmentation makes any difference to write speed, these are not mechanical devices like hard disks.
Also defragging is pointless and shortens the life of the card by increasing the number of writes.
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Hello,
I have a 8go storage for now but I'm getting close to be out of space (I have like 700mo left).
I would like to buy a 16go sd card but I'm not sure which one...
I have a nexus one rooted (with A2SD) so I don't really know what I should or shouldn't take. (because 20$ of difference between two "same" card is suspicious )
Could you help me ?
Best regards,
rXp>!<
Sandisk is a reputable manufacturer, Kingston is another, but make sure you also use a reputable retailer so that you don't end up with a knock-off.
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2 so unless you are planning on using the card in a dedicated card-reader a lot, or are thinking of future use, i wouldn't worry about spending premium amounts on faster cards.
min. class 4 is a must but you could look for class 6
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The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2.
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And your source is?
DirkGently1 said:
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2
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Of course it can, delve into the 720p recording thread...
I found class 2 or class 10. Better go for a class 10 or it is not recommended ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937622&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711175&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739643&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680439&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656908&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736751&highlight=slow+transfer+usb
The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
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The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
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This is true. My PC transfer speed is insanely slow. Took over 6 hours to transfer 8GB of data (was re-partitioning and did not have my microsd adapter)
A 16GB class 4 chip should be about $30, unless you jump on a special deal.
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The speed from N1 to PC is not the same as the internal speed.
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Obviously, but transferring files is the only reason why you would need a faster card. With the N1 seemingly capped at low speeds..yadda,yadda,yadda...
No it's not.
Recording in HD will require a decent speed, running data/dalvik-cache off SD-EXT will require a decent speed (things are noticeably slower on my C4 when I do that).
I've used a Class 2, Class 4 and Class 6 card on my N1 without any noticeable difference. I've put a clock on metrics like app launch times without any difference in the results.
People who spend extra $$ on faster cards convince themselves that they notice a difference to justify their spend. I wanted my Class 6 to make an improvement in daily usage but it didn't. I have to put it in a card reader so that i get any benefit from it, and that's only justified for transferring large amounts of data as you have to consider the time needed to remove/replace the card.
so personal expierences = fact now?
because I notice a major difference between my class 2 and class 6 in my N1
so that makes a new fact now
Can we have some facts on this issue?
For example, is it faster to take pictures if you have a faster class speed?
Is it faster in executing tasks?
etc.
Anyone have any results?
I'm thinking of getting a class 10 microsd card for record 720p video.
So far I've used Kingmax 16GB Class 10 with no problem.
I just bought a Sandisk 32gb MicroSDHC Class 2, hope it will work fine with everything, need a lot of space for music
I'm using a Patriot 16GB Class 10. Overkill? Maybe - depends on who you ask. But if you're putting the system cache on the card and recording HD video, it certainly doesn't hurt.
jonno2k said:
I'm using a Patriot 16GB Class 10. Overkill? Maybe - depends on who you ask. But if you're putting the system cache on the card and recording HD video, it certainly doesn't hurt.
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I was thinking of buying that microsd card from PC CASE GEAR.
DirkGently1 said:
Sandisk is a reputable manufacturer, Kingston is another, but make sure you also use a reputable retailer so that you don't end up with a knock-off.
The Nexus One can't utilise speeds above Class 2 so unless you are planning on using the card in a dedicated card-reader a lot, or are thinking of future use, i wouldn't worry about spending premium amounts on faster cards.
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r u sure it cant handle more than class 2 ? i am not sure, but think its matter of card , HW of N1 is speedygonzales
personaly i would look for something like:
since i cant post link:
ADATA Micro SD 32GB SDHC class 4
Speed (read) : 10~14 (MB/s)**
Speed (write) : 2~5 (MB/s)**
Speed Class : Class 4
its cheap , it worth a try
I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you
Just for the record, I'm more tempted by a 32 GB...
depends what you are going to be using it for?
music apps photos etc?
i have a 16Gb class 10 Joytech card in mine and it performs very well
Well, regardless of what you're going to use it for, extra free space is always welcome, and who knows, maybe you'll find yourself in need for more space than a 8 gb or 16, so, if the price difference ain't that big, go for 32.
The biggest and fastest you can get . Recently I bought 16GB class 10, because a/ I wanted to see if a faster card would make the shutter in video recording go away and b/ I needed a bigger card (one that would be enough to store a full season of TV shows - roughly 8GB and have space for my photos/music/apps). Because for me faster was more important than bigger I searched for class 10 cards and settled for 16GB (at a bargain price too - 30 EUR). I have to say that I'm very happy with it - it's really class 10, no shutter at all and I have enough space to copy a full season of a TV show to have with me to watch while I have nothing else to do.
whatever size you do get make sure its minimum class 6 or above otherwise as stated the speed (or lack of) may start to annoy you
SanDisk 16GB, best price-performance ratio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you
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Go for 32 Gigs.
even tho if youre low on money go for it! then you`l never go out of space
and the DHD dont slow down either so its a win win win!
Would recomend you to get atleast a 8gb class 6, you can get them for under 9GBP on amazon. In my opinion those are the bare minimums. You need class 6 to record 720p video without stutter and 8 gb holds decent ammount of music/videos.
It all depends on how much you willing to spend in reality.
Personally i just bought Patriot 16GB class 10.
I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.
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I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.
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The DHD can read/write at speeds way higher than 6MB/s. My class 10 card has transfers of 19/11 MB/s (in the phone, not via a SD adapter) and there are reports of beter (and more expensive) class 10 cards working at even higher speeds.
Transcend 32 gb class 2 ( 4 mbyte/s write, 10 mbyte/s read)
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I have a class 4 and I never noticed any video shutter
Thank you for all your replies.
I have almost 10GB of music and movies to put on.
I bought a SanDisk 16GB class 6.
Thanks
Recommeded Sd Card 16gig
well i use kingston 16gig class 2 and it seem to be fine nat had any problems with it have used other sdcard found kingston and scan disk to be about the best
I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
BillTheCat said:
I have the stock 8G card in my Inspire, but want a 16G card so I can move apps (and other data) over. Is there any real difference from one 'class' of card to the other? what would you guys recommend?
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Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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Get the san disk 16gb class 10. It will be really fast with transfers.
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I read that some cards were more accurate with their transfer claims than others. Can't remember the brand of card but one was recommended as being closer to the spec than the others. Also remember reading something somewhere that suggested a Class 10 card wasn't desirable and not necessarily faster because of how it worked, and that a Class 6 would do better for read/write and battery life. Your thoughts?
not really sure if I would spend the extra cash on a class 10 16b over a slower card for use in a phone. class 10 are superior for video, especially hd, like with a digital camera.
now, if the price is not much more I would go for class 10 but that is because I have found that once you replace your device, you may use your old card in a new device that now needs a faster card.
from sd association:
Class 2 : H.264 video recording, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 video recording
Class 4: MEPG-2 (HDTV) video recording, DSC consecutive shooting
Class 6: Mega-pixel DSC consecutive shooting, professional video camera
Class 10: Full HD video recording, HD still consecutive shooting
I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more. Again, if price is not an issue or the price difference is minimal go for a faster card. also, do not buy from ebay as there are a ton of fake cards on the site.
edit:
this was a good deal. just expired, but a similar one may surface :0
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?sduid=1019384&t=2794331
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I do not agree with all of those uses but class 6 should be fine for your phone, even class 4 may be. plenty of info on the web if you want to check it out more.
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The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
BillTheCat said:
The problem with these ratings is that they're intended for use in recording devices, and don't discuss suitability for use in a device such as a PDA where you'll be running programs off of the card.
The information I've seen on the 'net is sketchy, which is why I'm asking here.
Two things to answer:
1) What class is suitable for running programs from the card?
2) What brand/model of card comes closest to advertised rating?
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It really depends on a number of things, how much information is being used at one time for a certain app, since all apps are different. So you can't really say, but if you want to make sure then go with a class 10. A class 6 should be fine for most of the apps on android though.
As for which brand of card comes closest to advertised. Each Sd card is different just like every processor is different. You can get a Kingston 8gig class 4 that only transfers at 3mb/s or one that transfers at 4.2 mb/s. Generally a good standard to go by is (cheap/fast/reliable) you can only pick two.
The only way you are going to know the actual speed of the card is to bench test it. For my money though I would probably go with kingston or pny.
The stock card is a Sandisk class 4 and based on that I would say that a class 4 would be fine, but a higher class shouldn't hurt.
capman231
My stock card is a samsung class 2..... And it is forever unexpectedly unmounting.......
Just ordered a Kingston 16gig class 4 for $30 shipped on amazon.
i just bought a 2GB PNY from BestBuy for $7. Couldn't be happier!
It really depends on what you plan on doing with the card/phone. If you are just going to use it for apps and smaller data files the class 4 or 6 will be fine. For me I use the phone for work and media. I stream music via bluetooth in my car and wired to my boat while also storing larger pdfs for work, like my companies catalog. Not to mention if I ever want to take any 720p vids.
I have a 16gb class 6 that has outlived its usefulness as Android stores more data on it than my previous windows phone, so I'm deleting more & more music to make room. I just purchased a Wintec 32gb class 10. I will test the speed with the card in the phone mounted to my computer via usb and if the speeds aren't there I have no problem putting it in a card reader to transfer what I need. I can easily throw 18gb of 192bit mp3s on it, more if I keep some of the songs as flac. I feel the time saved transferring justifies the $76 price.
If you go with a larger card just remember to unmount it before disconnecting and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches.
I want a 16 gb card, but which model is the fastest ? i know a class 4 can outperform a class 6 card and so on , a class 4 pny card? a class 4 kingston? or a class 6 trascend?
You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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You have it backwards a class six is supposed to out perform a class four and a class ten is supposed to out perform a class six.
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apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
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apparently the brands lie when they say what type of cards they're selling, think of it like a 5 mp camera outperforming an 8 mp camera i CAN happen
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I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
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I'm not saying it can't, I have a 8 mega pixel sony cybershot that has a carl ziess lens and its pictures are way clearer then my 14 mega pixel cannon point and shoot, but like I said before you have to bench test it before you know its true potential. One kingston 16gig class 10 is not going to preform the same as another kingston 16gig class 10. It is possible to have a class 6 out perform a class 10, but in general the higher the class the faster the transfer rates.
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should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?
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should i get the trascend class 6 then? the thing is i dont anything about that brand, are they any good?
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Personally I am not sure I tend to stick with pny and kingston. What I would recommend is looking on amazon or another place that has reviews usually a good reviewer will post a bench test with transfer rates.
I have been using this Adata 16gb cl6 for over a year and a half. The only problems I've had with it are occasional corrupting, but that is completely attributable to my lack of unmounting the card before disconnect. I haven't had a single issue since I started unmounting.
I would also recommend their cl10 card which can be found here.
I wish Adata made a 32gb version. I will report my results on the Wintec once I receive it.
I used a class 4 16gb SanDisk for a long time and it always was fine. I am a sucker for room though, and bought a Lexar 32GB Class 10 and I really couldnt be happier.
I just researched this the other day and can't find the link for the life of me..
Basically from what I read the class 2 and class 4 cards have a faster read than the class 6 and 10's. It has to do with some initializing the 6 and 10's do which is an extra step compared to the 2 and 4's.
For a digital camera the class 6's and 10's are better but for phones a class 4 is ideal. If I can find that darn link i'll post it.
I have an 8gb class 6 transend in my N1 atm and when I get my Inspire in tomorrow i'm going to test the class 4 against the class 6 to see which one has a higher read speed.
do you know where can i buy one of these?? i'm looking everywhere
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do you know where can i buy one of these?? i'm looking everywhere
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This is a good brand, bit pricey though
http://www.memoryc.ie/products/desc...C_CL10_memory_card_with_SD_adapter/index.html
According to Kingston's site their 32GB is only Class 4 so if you do find a Class 10 it's most likely a fake, see link below
http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/sdhc_micro.asp?id=8
Thanks! dmd9
i thought that kingston had a class10 32gb :S
now for 32gb class10 .. lexar or patriot?
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/176-7790961-4940756
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Thanks! dmd9
i thought that kingston had a class10 32gb :S
now for 32gb class10 .. lexar or patriot?
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/176-7790961-4940756
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No problem
I had a look at the Lexar, I've never used any Lexar products before, so I simply compared the reviews on both. According to the reviewers the Patriot is faster, and I've used Patriot's before and found them to have good speeds.
I guess you're gonna have to work out which is the cheapest and if it's fast enough for your needs. Personally I'd go for the Patriot, but I suggest you google both for reviews as it's you that's going to be using it.
If it doesn't have to be 32GB then this is worth a look..
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...ct.html?source=9593&_$ja=tsid:11853|prd:60749
32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?
donigor1978 said:
32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?
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Fill it with HD movies and use FLAC instead of mp3 for superior sound
Pity we can't use MicroSDXC, that goes up tp 2TB, though you can't even get your hands on a 64GB at the moment.
DMD9 said:
Fill it with HD movies and use FLAC instead of mp3 for superior sound
Pity we can't use MicroSDXC, that goes up tp 2TB, though you can't even get your hands on a 64GB at the moment.
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FLAC on a phone? Overkill much?
That said, I have started re-ripping all my CDs (yes I actually pay for my music) to FLAC formats. With memory prices going down, the time is ripe to convert to loseless goodness.
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FLAC on a phone? Overkill much?
That said, I have started re-ripping all my CDs (yes I actually pay for my music) to FLAC formats. With memory prices going down, the time is ripe to convert to loseless goodness.
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Overkill much? 6 months ago I would have said pretty much the same, but once I got the SGS and voodoo sound FLAC made complete sense. You will notice the difference between mp3 and FLAC with a decent set of headphones. One example, "Broken" by Nine Inch Nails, I never bothered listening to this on previous phones or mp3 players, it sounded terrible because it's a loud, distorted, in your face album, but having re-ripped it to FLAC for my SGS I'm actually able to enjoy it again while I'm out and about, I also listen to a lot of electronic stuff, most of Ultimae.com's catalog for example, and the difference is quite noticeable, to me at least.
Number 1 use for my phone is as a music player these days thanks to supercurio and FLAC.
And yeah, I pay for my music too, I'm dreading having to re-rip over 600 CD's and pay for another HDD to hold 'em all on.
Just so you know
On the samsung i9000, there is no difference in performance between 32gb Class2 & Class10
Save your money & buy class2
donigor1978 said:
32gb? Uao! Is very big for a smartphone... what do you install inside?
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You will dont belive what you can all put on micro SD.My SGS replaced my laptop in 80% of cases. I have one in my signature (16 GB), and i have yet 120 MB free...Time is for 32 GB one
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fatjoez said:
Just so you know
On the samsung i9000, there is no difference in performance between 32gb Class2 & Class10
Save your money & buy class2
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That's not entirely true, there is a difference, but whether or not you'll notice it just depends on what you're using the card for. If you're camera is set up to record HD video to your external SD then it must have a write speed of 6MB or you will end up with choppy, stuttering crap quality video. If you're just using the external SD for mp3's or playing movies you've transferred from your pc, class 2 is fine, but it will take you longer to transfer stuff from your pc to your phone
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This is a good brand, bit pricey though
http://www.memoryc.ie/products/desc...C_CL10_memory_card_with_SD_adapter/index.html
According to Kingston's site their 32GB is only Class 4 so if you do find a Class 10 it's most likely a fake, see link below
http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/flash/sdhc_micro.asp?id=8
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the kingston 32gb class 10 are not fakes, they were release just after the sandisk 32gb class 2, when they were first released, but were taken off the market and discontinued, due to high price, i saw them and was gonna get one when the price drop (the shop i saw them are a authorised dealer, so you dont need to think the shop is selling fakes).
it was about USD 170, when you compare them to the class 4 version at USD 55, why are they expensive, well they are the fasted microsd to present, with write at 16mb/s and read at 22mb/s.
I also have 2 lexar 32gb at class 10, and the speed is nowhere near the kingston.
lexar write speed at 11mb/s
read speed at 17mb/s
if you still want to try out the speed, you can still get the 4gb, 8gb and 16gb at class 10, just to give you the approximate price, the 16gb will set you about USD 81, more expensive than a 32gb micro sd.
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the kingston 32gb class 10 are not fakes, they were release just after the sandisk 32gb class 2, when they were first released, but were taken off the market and discontinued, due to high price, i saw them and was gonna get one when the price drop (the shop i saw them are a authorised dealer, so you dont need to think the shop is selling fakes).
it was about USD 170, when you compare them to the class 4 version at USD 55, why are they expensive, well they are the fasted microsd to present, with write at 16mb/s and read at 22mb/s.
I also have 2 lexar 32gb at class 10, and the speed is nowhere near the kingston.
lexar write speed at 11mb/s
read speed at 17mb/s
if you still want to try out the speed, you can still get the 4gb, 8gb and 16gb at class 10, just to give you the approximate price, the 16gb will set you about USD 81, more expensive than a 32gb micro sd.
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I stand corrected
I tried a Playstation emulator app, and I am pretty sure that I could get more games working after I got my class 10 16gb card.
Since I use my phone for emulators, browsing, music, media player, remote desktop and probably as a travel computer soon... then having a faster SD card really comes in handy. If nothing else, then it comes in handy when deleting 8+ gb from it, just to put another 8gb+ onto it. Having a few extra mb/s really matters when doing that now and then.
Is the built in SD actually class 10? I really hope so, but if not I should probably consider moving a few more apps to the SD.
the built in memory is a nand memory chip soldered on the main board, it's reads and writes faster than microsd.
I've been wanting to upgrade my external card (8gb I think) to a 16 or 32. I've only just recently become aware of the different 'classes' and speeds of cards... just how much difference is there (in usability terms, gallery, music etc) between say a class 4 and 6 (or 8 or 10) or whatever the different classes are.
Raw numbers won't really help me (as I have no point of reference lol) but are they REALLY much faster in normal use? Are they worth it?
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I've been wanting to upgrade my external card (8gb I think) to a 16 or 32. I've only just recently become aware of the different 'classes' and speeds of cards... just how much difference is there (in usability terms, gallery, music etc) between say a class 4 and 6 (or 8 or 10) or whatever the different classes are.
Raw numbers won't really help me (as I have no point of reference lol) but are they REALLY much faster in normal use? Are they worth it?
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To be honest unless you have your camera set up to record to the external SD I don't think you need to worry too much about the class of your card, 720p recording needs a write speed of 6Mbps, but as the prices have come down a lot it makes sense the get the biggest card you can justify price wise. One advantage of a higher class card is that it's quicker to transfer files from your PC to your phone.
If you want a 16GB class 10 here's a decently priced one
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...viglink&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:viglink
If you want a fast 32GB class 4 this is one of the best prices I've found so far
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/MobyMemory/SanDisk-32GB-Micro-SD-Class-4.asp
(I have a SanDisk 8GB class 4 and it writes at just over 7Mbps, Sandisk are know for under rating their cards)
If you just want a 32GB, here's a class 2, (SanDisk so probably faster than rated)
http://www.mobymemory.com/products/MobyMemory/Sandisk-32gb-Micro-SDHC.asp
I bought a class 10 sd to replace my previous class 6.
I didn't notice a change! Speed was the same as on class 6.
Buy a class 6 sdcard instead of class 10. They are cheaper too
I think many people still dont understand the meaning of the classes that is stated on the memory card.
the class is just an indication of the minimun read speed and write speed that the card can offer.
so a class 2, 4 or 6 can reach the speed of a class 10 or even a class 16,
class 2 minimum 2mb/s
class 4 minimum 4mb/s
class 6 minimum 6mb/s
class 10 minimum 10mb/s
class 16 minimum 16mb/s
as for people who think there really is'nt any differences when compared class 2, 4 with a class 10, this will depend on what you use it for.
if your phone supports HD photo and recordings, then you will need a fast card, you will notice the speed differences, especially during recording videos, but for mp3's and phone normal use, then it does'nt show any differences.
kms108 said:
I think many people still dont understand the meaning of the classes that is stated on the memory card.
the class is just an indication of the minimun read speed and write speed that the card can offer.
so a class 2, 4 or 6 can reach the speed of a class 10 or even a class 16,
class 2 minimum 2mb/s
class 4 minimum 4mb/s
class 6 minimum 6mb/s
class 10 minimum 10mb/s
class 16 minimum 16mb/s
as for people who think there really is'nt any differences when compared class 2, 4 with a class 10, this will depend on what you use it for.
if your phone supports HD photo and recordings, then you will need a fast card, you will notice the speed differences, especially during recording videos, but for mp3's and phone normal use, then it does'nt show any differences.
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Well put
Hi all,
What is the maximum capacity Micro SD card size on the TF and also, what Class type do I need?
Thanks in advance
32 gb has always been the limit.
OK thanks, but what 'class' type? I see class 4 and 10 advertised?
well the class is the write speed of the card. The higher the number the faster the speed with 10 being the fastest. I use a class 4 that i had from my thunderbolt and that works just fine
Dont think it matters what class, it's just the write speed of the sd card.
And what all can you use this SD memory for?
Class just specifies the maximum write speed, but with day to day use in the transformer (other than transferring the initial media) it's the read speed that's the most important. You''ll be storing and opening your media from it (music, pictures, videos and PDFs or other e-reader formats most often). Usually a card with fast write will have fast read speeds as well but there can be some anomalies with certain cards so it's not always so clear cut. In my experience anything above a class 4 seems to work just fine. If you're working with a lot of larger video files though probably class 6 or above would be better (and as it's also a little more future-proofed). I would always prefer to go with a named brand class 4 or 6 rather than a non branded class 10 though.
Robert
rwniel said:
Class just specifies the maximum write speed, but with day to day use in the transformer (other than transferring the initial media) it's the read speed that's the most important. You''ll be storing and opening your media from it (music, pictures, videos and PDFs or other e-reader formats most often). Usually a card with fast write will have fast read speeds as well but there can be some anomalies with certain cards so it's not always so clear cut. In my experience anything above a class 4 seems to work just fine. If you're working with a lot of larger video files though probably class 6 or above would be better (and as it's also a little more future-proofed). I would always prefer to go with a named brand class 4 or 6 rather than a non branded class 10 though.
Robert
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Wrong its the minimal write speed. You use many words but give wrong info
Kaiser Chief said:
Wrong its the minimal write speed. You use many words but give wrong info
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You use few words, but flame plenty. Be polite please...
Kaiser Chief said:
Wrong its the minimal write speed. You use many words but give wrong info
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Even that isn't the whole story because it's incomplete - the class of the card minimum sustained write speed of the card under optimal conditions (i.e. a brand new and completely unfragmented card). I'm sure someone else can improve on that definition further!
As to what speed of card you need, from sdcard.org:
Class 2 : H.264 video recording, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 video recording
Class 4: MEPG-2 (HDTV) video recording, digital still camera (DSC) consecutive photo shooting
Class 6: Mega-pixel DSC consecutive photo shooting, professional video camera
Class 10: Full HD video recording, HD still picture consecutive shooting
Planning on doing any of these with your TF?
I've been using good quality Sandisk Class 2 cards in all my Android devices since the original T-Mobile G1, and *never* had an issue with them. Plus when testing, I usually get a write speed of around 7.5MB/s.
Regards,
Dave
I use a class 4 16gb and its fine. No problems. I think the faster classes are over rated. I typically try to find a class 4 or 6. Both work great. Don't waste your money.
You can get a 16gb for about $25 and a 32gb for around $40
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FAssuming Asus implemented SD 2.0 standard, a 32 GB maximum storage capacity is your limit for any SDHC memory card. You can read more about it here: link.
As for which class you buy, it depends on what you're using the memory card for. Foxmeister answered with a class rating list. Do note that the higher the class rating, the more expensive the memory card is. Like wise with storage capacity. I recently bought my PNY 32 GB microSDHC class 10 memory card from buy.com for about $57. Caveat emptor with fake ones on eBay, especially ones shipping from China.
hoang51 said:
FAssuming Asus implemented SD 2.0 standard, a 32 GB maximum storage capacity is your limit for any SDHC memory card. You can read more about it here: link.
As for which class you buy, it depends on what you're using the memory card for. Foxmeister answered with a class rating list. Do note that the higher the class rating, the more expensive the memory card is. Like wise with storage capacity. I recently bought my PNY 32 GB microSDHC class 10 memory card from buy.com for about $57. Caveat emptor with fake ones on eBay, especially ones shipping from China.
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yep, picked up one of those "fakes on eBay". That really stunk.