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MicroSD for Froyo - general consensus?

Hello,
Now that Froyo more or less came out and apps will start having Apps2SD function, it's time for a MicroSD upgrade.
What I want is on-phone performance - that running heavy 3D games on SD would perform as smoothly as if it was on internal memory. Is there a general consensus on what brand/class would suffice, and what is overkill? I have no concern over data cable transfer speed, as I'm pretty sure the phone will limit the speed much before the SD card does.
I'm looking at this Sandisk 16gb MicroSDHC Class 2 for $35 after shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Flash...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1275145563&sr=1-1
Anyone know if this would suffice?
Past threads have always went on tangents about good brand vs knock offs, how class is important vs. a marketing ploy, etc etc. Has a general consensus been reached in the xda community over what is sufficient but not overkill for onboard performance? Perhaps people who have already ran App2SD and use games and videos a lot have some input.
Thanks

I have a Top Ram 16 Gig class 6 and I think I paid about the same as you looking to pay for a class2. I also have a class2 that I have had for over a year. I used to use it in my blackberry. It still works and it is made by one of the cheap manufacturers.

Argh, I'm suffering from chronic SD corruption. So I'm in the market for a new chip. Think I'll spring for a 32gb this time. What's the latest on one that's both compatible and fast? And cheap too, that would be nice, links appreciated.

Considering that due to the amount of RAM the N1 has your main apps will be loaded already so card speed is not a significant factor, unless you use lots of different apps on a regular basis.
A faster card is beneficial mostly for the time i takes when I am loading up new music and possibly vids if you use it for that

This is the first 32gb MicroSD card I have seen "In Stock" Pretty expensive for a class 2 though.
http://www.buy.com/prod/sandisk-sds...crosdhc-32-gb-retail/q/loc/101/215191110.html

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Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S

You can get a 16gb class 10 for about $90.00.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036V5DGG...e=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B0036V5DGG

frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine

bewar ebay, there a lot of folks selling fake cards. They even read as what they were sold as but then fill up mighty quick............
The class is not needed I don't think
I have a class six and have been running games on it from sd for 3 months cant tell a bit of difference. I run linpack from sd and it works fine too!

the only real 32gb card is found here., http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc

frankzua77 said:
Im not sure the nexus 1 can handle a 32GB card , wow that's a lot lol, but you can get one for like $30 on ebay... http://bit.ly/9J7u2S
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no f-ing way that is real for $30

GldRush98 said:
Micro SDHC is a standard that supports up to 32gb. Of course it can handle it just fine.
I run a 16gb Class 6 in mine, works fine
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I'm running a 32gb Sandisk Class 2 in my Nexus as of last Friday. No problems (apart from a looooong time to refresh the media library after resyncing my music).

You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.

djmcnz said:
You can not get a genuine 32GB Micro SD card for US$40.
A good class 2 card (2MB/s) will offer you the same performance as any other class in your phone.
The limitation is not the speed of the card.
Buy a brand name card with the capacity you require and be done with the complexity.
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I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.

jasrups said:
I don't know too much about transfer rates but basically what you're saying is that a a brand name class 2 card will be just as good as say a class 6? I'm in the market for a new SD card as well, and the class 6 cards are much more expensive. I'm wondering if they're worth it.
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No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
wikipedia said:
In applications that require sustained write throughput, such as video recording, the device may not perform satisfactorily if the SD card's class rating falls below a particular speed. For example, a camcorder that is designed to record to class 6 media may suffer dropouts or corrupted video on slower media.
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The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic wand and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...

djmcnz said:
No, in a phone they're not worth it at all and people who say so are either selling snake oil or are embarrassed because they've paid for one and are foolish for doing so.
The best I can do just at the moment is this:
The Nexus, like probably every other phone out there, is a) not typically used for high rate sustained write activities and b) is designed to write to class 2 media to begin with.
If you have a large, highly fragmented sd card higher speeds will help. This of course is easy to avoid in the first place.
Get a higher capacity, class 2, brand name card for the same money and you're away laughing.
NB - If somebody waves a magic want and all of a sudden the Nexus can record video at 1080p at a high enough bitrate then perhaps my advice would be invalidated... but don't hold your breath for that to happen...
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Thanks for the info man! I was obviously misinformed, you just saved me a bunch of money

so just curious. now that CM 5.0.8 comes with 720p recording, would a class 2 still suffice?

I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)... If the speed of v2.1 w/o app2sd is acceptable to you, then v2.2 with 6-7M write speed card should be logically fine with you.

fshek said:
I am also searching the web recently to look for a cost-effective high vol microSD. My finding is: don't 100% trust the "class" specified by mfr. I used ATTO Disk Benchmark to test two 8G microSD that I have: Transcend 8G Class 6 and Sandisk 8G Class 4.
<Transcend Class6> Write: 6-10MB/s Read: 16MB/s
<Sandisk Class 4> Write: 14MB/s Read: 20MB/s
From similar test results on the web, it seems that Sandisk uses to under-state the performance of their card. Finally I get a Sandisk 16G Class 2 for my N1, and here is the test result with the same setting:
<Sandisk 16G Class2> Write: 7MB/s Read: 20MB/s
Although Sandisk only specifies it as class 2, it actually performs like a class 6.
I suspect the importance of the speed of the SD card too, coz I think the write speed into ROM, should be way slower than 6-7MB/s (correct me if I am wrong ^_^)...
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huh that's interesting. i just might pick that up from amazon then..

I Dont think fragmentation makes any difference to write speed, these are not mechanical devices like hard disks.
Also defragging is pointless and shortens the life of the card by increasing the number of writes.

microSDHC 16GB?

Will i need higher than class 2 microsd card to support HD recording on the DHD something like ultra high speed class 6 microsd card for better access speed?
Though im not sure if class 6 is supported on the DHD. if anyone can shed a light on this is greatly appriciated.

As they provide a Class2 card with the phone and advertise 720p video recording, the Class2 standard is apparently enough. This is just a guess, but I strongly think that DHD supports Class6.

Ok, just not too sure if class 6 is based on ver 2.0

jkoljo said:
As they provide a Class2 card with the phone and advertise 720p video recording, the Class2 standard is apparently enough. This is just a guess, but I strongly think that DHD supports Class6.
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It's enough cause we are talking here of a phone that has plenty internal memory to buffer data when you are recording stuff in 720p!!! Class 6 or 10 are needed on digital cameras or digital video cameras cause they usually don't have such huge internal memory to buffer data while recording...
Basically we are talking DHD as almost a computer in these particularly case

something else to consider is transferring anything to your phone or back again to a pc or mac. A class 2 card will be much slower than a class 6 or even a class 10.

I just thought I would check what Class my N97s Micro SD card was and it is a class 6 8GB, so that should keep me going for a bit.
Its pretty rubbish that when people are pay £500 for a phone, that they ship it with pretty old technology micro SD card.

Class 4 16gb kingston microsdhc are pretty cheap

guys what do you all think about this one
Transcend 16 GB microSDHC Class 6 Flash Memory Card
Look it up in amazon
it looks pretty good

patriotaus said:
Class 4 16gb kingston microsdhc are pretty cheap
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i've placed an order for one of this for £23.00 through amazon. Doube the capacity and in theory speed than the sd cards the came with my DHD

please post what micro sd card you are using and how you are finding it on the DHD, just so we can see which works the best.
the reason i ask is because I am thinking about getting a bigger micro sd, but not sure what to go for!
thanks

I got a Toshiba 16GB Micro SDHC card from these guys for my DHD for £16.99 inc P&P, and it works great : http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/pro...d=106505&PHPSESSID=4foeg41alltvi1s6sifidtoip0
Its rated as a Class 4 card but I have actually obtained steady transfer rates of 6.5 MB/s and even at times up to 10 MB/s with it whilst copying across large files from my PC to the phone via USB.

I really should look a bit closer before posting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829737
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Class 4 stands for transfers not slower than 4mb/s
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32gb MicroSD advice please

I am looking at either a Lexar or Samsung both class 10, both around £37.
any advise as to which one is best based on anyone using.
The other question is do you need to format before use?
At the moment I have a 16gb but it is 98% full. Never chenged a card before was planning to copy the old card into a folder on laptop and then back onto the new card.
Any advise welcome,,,,,,,,

Go with transcend. If they have 32gb class 10.

They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....

kjt57 said:
They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....
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I like transcend more than anything else.

I never had luck with transcend, i have a sandisk 32 gig which works great,
i had a kingston 32 class 10 within a few weeks it just burnt out on me it stop reading and wouldnt want to format or anything

I'm also looking for a 32gb micro sdhc for my HTC Vogue. I currently have a Sandisk 16gb that is nearly full. Earlier today I stumbled onto this thread from here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
I found it quite helpful. I hope you do too.
I was surprised that class 10 cards weren't the best choice for the things I use my Vogue for.
Here is a passage that surprised me...
"Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds.".

I would agree with Random read/write access might be better in Class 4 cards than Class 10...
But arent we forgetting that most of the applications are read more than Written when u open it.. I think a faster read speed with lower write speed would still be better than having lower read/write all together...Not unless you are downloading a torrent in background and running HD game with it... infact in that situation.. both cards will fail badly..

I prefer Sandisk.
A class 4 should generally give proper performance... 10 seems a bit overkill imho.

I've used the 8GB class 4 memory card that came with the Sensation for a while, and after switching to a 32GB class 10 Lexar I must say - it DOES make a difference. It's a totally different experience.

Been using SAMSUNG ESSENTIAL 32GB MicroSD for more than 2 months without issues. It has helped me to parallely download videos from tubemate in high speeds. Good writing and reading speeds. No slowdowns/jatter in 1080P recording which iam always using to cap my child.

Just bought a 32GB Class 10 Samsung card from play.com for £34.99. Working great so far!

I got the 16GB SD card for two reasons
1. The 16GB has a faster write speed.
2. I didn't have $90 to spend on the 32GB.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US?from_mobile=true
Oh also I did not pat $55 for the 16GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005TUQUZA/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?redirect=true
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hilljd00 said:
How fast is it?
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Copied a film over to it via usb last night and was getting 11.6 mb/s. Haven't tested with the card in a reader but would probably be faster even still.
Phil

[Q] Is pulling from micro sd card as fast as internal memory

(1) I'm going to buy a galaxy s4 when it comes out. I know it would probably be cheaper to buy the 16 mg version ,then buy micro sd card.
My question is does the phone work faster from the internal memory or does it pulll info just as fast from a micro sd card?
(2). Would sandisk extreme pro be a good choice ?

Chris.praying said:
(1) I'm going to buy a galaxy s4 when it comes out. I know it would probably be cheaper to buy the 16 mg version ,then buy micro sd card.
My question is does the phone work faster from the internal memory or does it pulll info just as fast from a micro sd card?
(2). Would sandisk extreme pro be a good choice ?
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I was told that sandisk doesn't work well with Samsung brand so I suggest you to buy Samsung sd card as well

Like anything, internal memory will always be faster...
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i have been using the SanDisk Ultra 32 GB MicroSDHC Class 10 and it works fine in the sg3
just make sure you get the ultra class 10 as it has faster speeds than the lower class cards
put the things that need to pull up fast on the internal memory like apps and put everything else on the card like music and things you wont notice a difference on

djq said:
i have been using the SanDisk Ultra 32 GB MicroSDHC Class 10 and it works fine in the sg3
just make sure you get the ultra class 10 as it has faster speeds than the lower class cards
put the things that need to pull up fast on the internal memory like apps and put everything else on the card like music and things you wont notice a difference on
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Not always true. I recommend reading benchmark test on the card you want to by and its competitors. I've seen some benchmarks where a Class 6 Sandisk beat out a Kingston Class 10 in the past in "some" writing areas.

I had a nightmare with sandisk in general both in my dslr and GS2. I use Lexar now and never had one issue. Sandisk has great customer service though. Refunded all 3 of my pro cards.
Custom Stock Rom 4.1 Eternity
Brilliantly Stock

If the Galaxy S4 supports the UHS sdcards (45mb or 90mb read/write) then that would be as fast as you need imho.

SlimJ87D said:
Not always true. I recommend reading benchmark test on the card you want to by and its competitors. I've seen some benchmarks where a Class 6 Sandisk beat out a Kingston Class 10 in the past in "some" writing areas.
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This is extremely true! Never trust an SD card by what the claims are on the box. I have purchased many SD cards (all brands) over the last couple of months. 6 class 10 Sandisk all 32GB from different sources (Amazon, Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc...) and none of them benchmarked in at class 10. Most were between class 4 and 8 write speeds with read speeds being a bit better. 2 PNY 32 GB class 10 cards. Both of those tested above class 10 performance but died within 2 weeks. I have not been able to find and Amazon Basics 32 GB Class 10, but the other Amazon cards I have tried have worked well. Samsung cards seem to work well as well, but I have not benchmarked any of them. It really seems to be a crapshoot if you get a good card or not. Each specific device seems to like some brands better than others. Also, there is a huge (and I mean huge) problem with counterfeit cards and misrepresented (changed) class of cards flooding all markets. So good luck and let everyone know if you find a good card.

I also would say, download and do a full write format on the card with sdformatter https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/ prior to use. I have gotten many 4 speed cards to record hd video on my t3i just by using that software, when a regular format won't work.

daleski75 said:
If the Galaxy S4 supports the UHS sdcards (45mb or 90mb read/write) then that would be as fast as you need imho.
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My galaxy s3 supports uhs class 1 64gb sd card. .. sure s4 will support it..
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What's the best type of SD card for Note4?

Hey guys, My wife and I will be getting the Note4, what SD card is recommended? I don't know if we're going with a 64 or a 128 just wondering about quality and SD vs SDXC. thanks..
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My Thoughts
I was contemplating the 128 but i don't think i'll ever use it, and im a music and movie junkie, but i don't keep movies (or tv shows) on my phone after i watched them, so i went with a 64gig sandisk mobile ultra. I also don't believe the phones can take full use of the higher transfer rates of some cards (48mb/s+ cards) so i went with this guy here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JAKH0F4
its Amazon Prime Eligible and comes with the adapter and usb reader.
I'm sure others will post their thoughts as well
Goodluck

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Bingo! This card rocks and priced right!
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These phones won't take advantage of the higher speeds of the Extremes and Pros unless you're removing the card from your phone and plugging it into a USB 3.0 card reader each time. So The 48MB/s Ultras and Evos are good enough.

Kawaisa said:
These phones won't take advantage of the higher speeds of the Extremes and Pros unless you're removing the card from your phone and plugging it into a USB 3.0 card reader each time. So The 48MB/s Ultras and Evos are good enough.
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Samsung 64gb Evo
yeah, like he said, if you are only using the card in your phone, get this guy for less than 40 bucks!

Just picked up one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Elect...412429044&sr=1-6&keywords=64+gb+micro+sd+card
Got good reviews and has the bandwidth for 4K. The Note 4 will be my first 4K device so I wanted to make sure I had a good card to go with it. Dont need 128 GB (yet) personally as I stream pandora for my music. I am sure the sandisk cards would have been just fine as well.

I have the 128GB microSD card and it's great! Super fast, and stupid high capacity. But with picture and video file sizes getting bigger and bigger, and phones doing more and more, I believe that the space will come in handy. I've currently got LOTS of HD movies on it in the Note 3... but if I need the space on the Note 4 I can easily delete them.

hi,
I need to ask what you thin about this SD : SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra Micro SD (SDXC) Card - Class 10 UHS-1
I had this about a year and would be good for note 4 and QHD video? or which speed is good for note 4 to be great for video camera?
thanks

tomy159 said:
hi,
I need to ask what you thin about this SD : SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra Micro SD (SDXC) Card - Class 10 UHS-1
I had this about a year and would be good for note 4 and QHD video? or which speed is good for note 4 to be great for video camera?
thanks
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Really makes no difference since the phone does not support the UHS-I speeds. The SanDisk Ultra would be as good as a more expensive ones.

sanddisk and Samsung are both highly rated as very good quality. You can't go wrong with either. I suggest which ever one on sale or cheaper that's the way to go.

great guys thanks, I was scared to buy new one card.

Im getting this..
Samsung Electronics 64GB PRO Micro SDXC with Adapter Upto 90MB/s Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IVPU88U/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_kLSmub1MQDR6P

Grabbed this one for $80 during the sale in the morning.
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Performance-microSDHC-Memory-LSDMI128BBNL633R/dp/B00O1M21H8
Decided to go with it since Lexar (micron/crucial) makes the best chips and the warranty is better than the one provided by Samsung and SanDisk. But most importantly, it's faster than the current SanDisk.

I wish there was an option to up the voltage to the SD card readers in Samsung phones. I get that they lower the power for battery life and heat, buy I also want to get decent transfer speeds with my phone. No real point in getting an SD card above 48MB/s for phone use only as the required voltage for UHS-1 is not available. I do believe that all Snapdragons since the 600 support UHS-1 though. Too bad.

i'm curious about the 128 gb max storage on specification, does that mean phone+ micro sd = 128 max or 128gb micro sd+ phone internal storage?

Colnart said:
i'm curious about the 128 gb max storage on specification, does that mean phone+ micro sd = 128 max or 128gb micro sd+ phone internal storage?
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128gb max is the microsdxc alone (but that's only because there aren't any 256GB microsdxc cards on the market)
it's 128gb + 32gb

Running SanDisk ultra sdxc 128GB in my GN3 and mt Go Pro Hero3 black .
Like computers, our devices tested/rated for what memory is currently available when the device is released.
For example GN3 is rated for 64GB sdxc, but 128GB works fine.
For what was initially stated in the OP.
The variants of "sd" are based on capacity. With few exceptions to some 4gb mSD cards, sdhc is 4gb-32gb , and sdxc is 64+GB for meow. Until something greater than 128GB is released, which may or may not be sdxc or variant of.

Whats the max speed can the note 4 read on sd card? Same as note 3 and other recents samsung phones?

+1^100000000
THIS IS THE BEST CARD OUT PERIOD.
If you want the best, here you go:
Samsung Electronics 64GB PRO Micro SDXC with Adapter Upto 90MB/s Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM)
For the cost of your kidney you can also opt for: Lexar High-Performance microSDHC 633x 128GB UHS-I Flash Memory Card LSDMI128BBNL633R
(However, I'd wait for Samsung's 128GB PRO ....one things for sure, you can count on it in every way.)
SanDisk is garbage...never again. The integrity of the cards have tanked over the years.
Go Samsung....
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Bingo! This card rocks and priced right!
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Lexar is every bit as good as Samsung if not better. they're owned by Micron/Crucial and are known in the photography and computer sphere for making the best chips out there, but I guess their stuff is marketed as more high brow so the average consumer isn't acquainted with the brand. Note that the Lexar cards have lifetime warranties for a reason.