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Upgrading microsd card

I want to upgrade the stock 4 GB microsd in my unrooted htc desire to a 16 GB microsd card. My question is can I copy what is on the 4 GB microsd and transfer them to the new 16 GB microsd and just insert it in? would all programs work?
many thanks for your help.

Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.

attu90 said:
Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.
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Cheers for the helpful reply.
Are ebay unbranded 16GB microsd cards reliable? Do they work?

i would stay away.

kmetek said:
i would stay away.
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I agree - I had lots of problems with an unbranded 16GB card. Eventually ebay closed the seller down as there were so many complaints. I did get my money back via paypal. I finally bought a branded 32GB card - costly (EUR100!), but I love having so much space for my music / video.

Is there really a need for anything above class 4?
My HTC Desire came with a sandisc 4GB class 2. I want to get a larger card, but never had any reading issues with the class 2, and music and video played off it with ease.
I've seen the following item here, which is for a class 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-m...r-TS16GUSDHC6/dp/B001PLIG5Y/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Anyone got one of these?

I've just bought the 'ultra' version of Sandisk's 16GB microsd card and I am very impressed with it so far.
Personally, I always feel that it is best to stick with the tried and trusted brands, and sandisk products have always been excellent for me

I just bought a 16GB SanDisk class 2 from amazon and it writes on average at 5MB ish
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I thought the class number i.e. 2 meant the read and write speed 2Mbps. Therefore class 6 would be 6Mbps. If you have a class 2 and get 5Mbps then that is pretty impressive.

The Class of the SD card is simply the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented. So, a completely blank Class 2 card should always be able to write large files out at least 2mb/s, but can easily be faster.
My 16gb Sandisk Class 2 reads at 20mb/s and writes at 7.5mb/s - well above the Class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave

my 32gb is a class 2 and i have zero issues with streaming video or music from the card, i expect when i root that apps will not be an issue either. plenty of read write speed.
the higher classes are for devices that require a higher bitrate for recording such as mini hd recorders and such.

Im running a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 and its like Lightning!

Class 6?

I'm thinking about buying a 16gb microsd class 6 card. Will the 6 really make a difference from a class 4 on the eris though? Once they get that fast can the eris really keep up or will it just be excess speed for nothing? Also, I'm guessing a 32gb c6 is out of the question? As far as brands go, are there any that I have to avoid. I'm looking to buy a cheap one from one of those ebay sellers in china with the free shipping. Is this a bad idea? Will it not work with the eris? Thanks.

A lot of money for not a ton of improvement. If you use apps2sd it'll matter more but not hugely.

I use a class 4 8gb Kingston with no problems at all, didn't see the point in buying an exspensive class 6. That and a2sd works great on a class 4

This is a cheap yet quick class 6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453

as i explain here all of them are same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10853883#post10853883

i9000blackrain said:
as i explain here all of them are same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10853883#post10853883
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i9000blackrain said:
that is like the blue tooth version v2 and v3
only name are different and here class and name are different in real there is no different
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Two worthless posts, dude. You didn't explain, you only gave an opinion, but I'm afraid you're wrong and your uninformative posts didn't warrant reviving two dead threads just to get your post count up.
There are most definitely speed differences between different classes of SD cards.
Next time, think before you post.

I've used 3 cards. The SD card that came with the phone (8GB Class ?), a SanDisk 8GB Class 2 card (from Best Buy for ~$40), and an A-Data 8GB Class 6 card (from Frys for ~$25). The Class 6 card is MUCH quicker in day to day use. Launching most apps (on SD card) is noticeably quicker than the system apps stored on the phone for example. Comparing card to card is night and day as well! The original card was similar in speed to the SanDisk one, but the A-Data card seems about 2-3x faster. Viewing images in the gallery is also much quicker with no lag of loading a picture of relatively high quality.
Summary: There is a noticeable difference! A friend has a Class 4 card and it feels slower but seems to be closer to the Class 6 end than it is to Class 2. That isn't to say it's slow/bad, but it isn't as fast, especially in gallery.
(all on Fresh Installs of CELB Froyo 4.3)

Fact is.... it makes a difference depending on what you do. here are my tests after buying a class 10 16GB from amazon:
KingMax 16GB class 10:
Writing speed: 13.8 MByte/s
Reading speed: 16.6 MByte/s
SanDisk 8GB Class 2:
Writing speed: 6.56 MByte/s
Reading speed: 17.4 MByte/s
I used the following program to test directly from the SD card slot on my laptop, not from the eris:
Program on PC: H2testw.
my camera app takes pictures a tad faster, I assume due to the write speed to the SD card. Other than that I dont use the SD card for much else besides storing and looking photos and playing music. I dont use app2sd.

lesismore1 said:
I've used 3 cards. The SD card that came with the phone (8GB Class ?), a SanDisk 8GB Class 2 card (from Best Buy for ~$40), and an A-Data 8GB Class 6 card (from Frys for ~$25). The Class 6 card is MUCH quicker in day to day use. Launching most apps (on SD card) is noticeably quicker than the system apps stored on the phone for example. Comparing card to card is night and day as well! The original card was similar in speed to the SanDisk one, but the A-Data card seems about 2-3x faster. Viewing images in the gallery is also much quicker with no lag of loading a picture of relatively high quality.
Summary: There is a noticeable difference! A friend has a Class 4 card and it feels slower but seems to be closer to the Class 6 end than it is to Class 2. That isn't to say it's slow/bad, but it isn't as fast, especially in gallery.
(all on Fresh Installs of CELB Froyo 4.3)
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wow this made me go ahead and wanting to buy the A-Data 8GB Class 6 SDcard
so you say ~$25? I just saw on newegg they were selling for $12.99 w/ free shipping
A-DATA Turbo 8GB Secure Digital High-Capacity (SDHC) Flash Card Model TurboSD SDHC 8G
would that be the correct model you have?

I got it at Fry's a couple of months ago so it may have dropped a bit.
And yes, it is.

Is a microsd class 2 enough for recording hd videos and running apps?

Im planning on buying a 16 gb microsd card but all i can find is cards class 2 is that enough for recording 720p and loading applications installed to the SD card ? keep in mind that i also plan un buying a optimus 2x which has 1080p recording
Which brand do you like better? sandisk? kigston? trascend?
I read that sandisk class 4 cards are REALLY good but they dont show up in their website or amazon :/ , it seems they only sell class 2 cards, and kingston offers cards class 10 and 4 , class 10 seems a little excessive

Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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yeah minimum a class 4
class 2 is just a pain, it will make you want to throw the phone away, and explode it into a million tiny bits
class 6 is the normal speed for a fluid experience

Im using a Sandisk 32GB class 2 card, it writes at 5~7Mb/s depending if its a large file or several smaller ones and read as higher than 15Mb/s

iammodo said:
Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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class 2 will die? u mean its on its way out?
Ive been reading good comments about the sandisk cards, but they only sell class 2 cards :/ , what brands are u guys using?

If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
Hope this helps.

lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.

kms108 said:
If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
Hope this helps.
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so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?

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lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.
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Approximate usd 85.

The class designation of SD Cards ONLY represents the sustained WRITE speed to the card in MB/s. So, class 2 means it can be written to at 2MB/s, while class 10 means it can be written to at 10MB/s.
The designation has no reference whatsoever to the read speed of the card. So, basically every response stating otherwise in this thread is wrong. You should be able to get suitable sustained read speeds out of any class 2 or higher SD Card for the purposes you will be using it for. It will just take you longer to transfer the data to it in the first place. As for video recording from your phone, class should should be plenty as I'm pretty sure 720P comes in under 2MB/s.

Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.

Chad_Petree said:
so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?
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The speed of the card used in the phone does not make much of a difference, its onlt when you transfer data to and from Pc, but its always best to get the fastest available, if the budget is the main problem, consider getting a kingston or toshiba, but make sure you get one that is made in japan, as the taiwan version is a litttle slower, japan version are becoming harder to get now, since the japan factor has transferred their production to the taiwan site.
The classes stated on each card is only the minimum it will reach.
Class 2 at least 2 mb read/write
class 4 at least 4 mb read/write. etc.
So it can be anything above the actual figures.
For more info on microsd, see my link in the sig, although its a little out dated.

soulzero said:
Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.
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The actual retail price for the lexar 32gb class 10 is 149 usd.

No problems with 32GB Class 2 here, it can record and decode 720p just fine, and there is nothing else as intensive as those tasks that you'll be doing with this handset (may not be enough to support 1080p in future handsets, but that remains to be seen).
Don't buy into this rubbish about needing Class 4 or 6 cards, unless you regularly load very large numbers of small files to your card, in which case you may want the higher write speeds.

when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load
repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed

You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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francomur99 said:
You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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for that price I can get 2 class 10 Kingmax 16gb.

francomur99 said:
You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera

AllGamer said:
when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed
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If your getting cards from a non generic name brand, the read speeds should be around 15-25Mb/s , My class 6 card actually had a slower read speed of 15Mb/s compared to my Class2 ( 28Mb/s )
At the end of the day the difference between loading something was barely noticeable even skipping to different portions of a 3.7GB movie, Im guessing the phone it self is the bottleneck and not the card.
1% or 99% full should have ZERO effect on the read/write speed this is not some mechanical drive nor having 1 or all the apps in the market.
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Again the class rating is only a rate on what is the minimum write speed the card can handle, sandisk rates their 32GB at class 2 when it writes at 6-7Mb/s ( making it class 6 ) on the phone and about 10Mb/s using a card reader ( making it class 10 )

AllGamer said:
amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera
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yeh, buying from a local store is cheaper, from the same price of a kingston 16gb class 10, you can get a 32gb class 4, but the fastest microsd on the market is the kingston 32gb class 10, but stock is very limited due to high prices, and you probable need to place an order and pay in advanced, i'm still searching for one, since the last time i heard about it about 9 months ago.
adata are the cheapest cards now, but the speed are rather slow, compared when they only released the 8gb about a year ago.

32gb MicroSD advice please

I am looking at either a Lexar or Samsung both class 10, both around £37.
any advise as to which one is best based on anyone using.
The other question is do you need to format before use?
At the moment I have a 16gb but it is 98% full. Never chenged a card before was planning to copy the old card into a folder on laptop and then back onto the new card.
Any advise welcome,,,,,,,,

Go with transcend. If they have 32gb class 10.

They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....

kjt57 said:
They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....
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I like transcend more than anything else.

I never had luck with transcend, i have a sandisk 32 gig which works great,
i had a kingston 32 class 10 within a few weeks it just burnt out on me it stop reading and wouldnt want to format or anything

I'm also looking for a 32gb micro sdhc for my HTC Vogue. I currently have a Sandisk 16gb that is nearly full. Earlier today I stumbled onto this thread from here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
I found it quite helpful. I hope you do too.
I was surprised that class 10 cards weren't the best choice for the things I use my Vogue for.
Here is a passage that surprised me...
"Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds.".

I would agree with Random read/write access might be better in Class 4 cards than Class 10...
But arent we forgetting that most of the applications are read more than Written when u open it.. I think a faster read speed with lower write speed would still be better than having lower read/write all together...Not unless you are downloading a torrent in background and running HD game with it... infact in that situation.. both cards will fail badly..

I prefer Sandisk.
A class 4 should generally give proper performance... 10 seems a bit overkill imho.

I've used the 8GB class 4 memory card that came with the Sensation for a while, and after switching to a 32GB class 10 Lexar I must say - it DOES make a difference. It's a totally different experience.

Been using SAMSUNG ESSENTIAL 32GB MicroSD for more than 2 months without issues. It has helped me to parallely download videos from tubemate in high speeds. Good writing and reading speeds. No slowdowns/jatter in 1080P recording which iam always using to cap my child.

Just bought a 32GB Class 10 Samsung card from play.com for £34.99. Working great so far!

I got the 16GB SD card for two reasons
1. The 16GB has a faster write speed.
2. I didn't have $90 to spend on the 32GB.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US?from_mobile=true
Oh also I did not pat $55 for the 16GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005TUQUZA/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?redirect=true
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hilljd00 said:
How fast is it?
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Copied a film over to it via usb last night and was getting 11.6 mb/s. Haven't tested with the card in a reader but would probably be faster even still.
Phil

What's the best type of SD card for Note4?

Hey guys, My wife and I will be getting the Note4, what SD card is recommended? I don't know if we're going with a 64 or a 128 just wondering about quality and SD vs SDXC. thanks..
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My Thoughts
I was contemplating the 128 but i don't think i'll ever use it, and im a music and movie junkie, but i don't keep movies (or tv shows) on my phone after i watched them, so i went with a 64gig sandisk mobile ultra. I also don't believe the phones can take full use of the higher transfer rates of some cards (48mb/s+ cards) so i went with this guy here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JAKH0F4
its Amazon Prime Eligible and comes with the adapter and usb reader.
I'm sure others will post their thoughts as well
Goodluck

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Bingo! This card rocks and priced right!
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These phones won't take advantage of the higher speeds of the Extremes and Pros unless you're removing the card from your phone and plugging it into a USB 3.0 card reader each time. So The 48MB/s Ultras and Evos are good enough.

Kawaisa said:
These phones won't take advantage of the higher speeds of the Extremes and Pros unless you're removing the card from your phone and plugging it into a USB 3.0 card reader each time. So The 48MB/s Ultras and Evos are good enough.
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Samsung 64gb Evo
yeah, like he said, if you are only using the card in your phone, get this guy for less than 40 bucks!

Just picked up one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Elect...412429044&sr=1-6&keywords=64+gb+micro+sd+card
Got good reviews and has the bandwidth for 4K. The Note 4 will be my first 4K device so I wanted to make sure I had a good card to go with it. Dont need 128 GB (yet) personally as I stream pandora for my music. I am sure the sandisk cards would have been just fine as well.

I have the 128GB microSD card and it's great! Super fast, and stupid high capacity. But with picture and video file sizes getting bigger and bigger, and phones doing more and more, I believe that the space will come in handy. I've currently got LOTS of HD movies on it in the Note 3... but if I need the space on the Note 4 I can easily delete them.

hi,
I need to ask what you thin about this SD : SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra Micro SD (SDXC) Card - Class 10 UHS-1
I had this about a year and would be good for note 4 and QHD video? or which speed is good for note 4 to be great for video camera?
thanks

tomy159 said:
hi,
I need to ask what you thin about this SD : SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra Micro SD (SDXC) Card - Class 10 UHS-1
I had this about a year and would be good for note 4 and QHD video? or which speed is good for note 4 to be great for video camera?
thanks
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Really makes no difference since the phone does not support the UHS-I speeds. The SanDisk Ultra would be as good as a more expensive ones.

sanddisk and Samsung are both highly rated as very good quality. You can't go wrong with either. I suggest which ever one on sale or cheaper that's the way to go.

great guys thanks, I was scared to buy new one card.

Im getting this..
Samsung Electronics 64GB PRO Micro SDXC with Adapter Upto 90MB/s Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IVPU88U/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_kLSmub1MQDR6P

Grabbed this one for $80 during the sale in the morning.
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Performance-microSDHC-Memory-LSDMI128BBNL633R/dp/B00O1M21H8
Decided to go with it since Lexar (micron/crucial) makes the best chips and the warranty is better than the one provided by Samsung and SanDisk. But most importantly, it's faster than the current SanDisk.

I wish there was an option to up the voltage to the SD card readers in Samsung phones. I get that they lower the power for battery life and heat, buy I also want to get decent transfer speeds with my phone. No real point in getting an SD card above 48MB/s for phone use only as the required voltage for UHS-1 is not available. I do believe that all Snapdragons since the 600 support UHS-1 though. Too bad.

i'm curious about the 128 gb max storage on specification, does that mean phone+ micro sd = 128 max or 128gb micro sd+ phone internal storage?

Colnart said:
i'm curious about the 128 gb max storage on specification, does that mean phone+ micro sd = 128 max or 128gb micro sd+ phone internal storage?
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128gb max is the microsdxc alone (but that's only because there aren't any 256GB microsdxc cards on the market)
it's 128gb + 32gb

Running SanDisk ultra sdxc 128GB in my GN3 and mt Go Pro Hero3 black .
Like computers, our devices tested/rated for what memory is currently available when the device is released.
For example GN3 is rated for 64GB sdxc, but 128GB works fine.
For what was initially stated in the OP.
The variants of "sd" are based on capacity. With few exceptions to some 4gb mSD cards, sdhc is 4gb-32gb , and sdxc is 64+GB for meow. Until something greater than 128GB is released, which may or may not be sdxc or variant of.

Whats the max speed can the note 4 read on sd card? Same as note 3 and other recents samsung phones?

+1^100000000
THIS IS THE BEST CARD OUT PERIOD.
If you want the best, here you go:
Samsung Electronics 64GB PRO Micro SDXC with Adapter Upto 90MB/s Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MG64DA/AM)
For the cost of your kidney you can also opt for: Lexar High-Performance microSDHC 633x 128GB UHS-I Flash Memory Card LSDMI128BBNL633R
(However, I'd wait for Samsung's 128GB PRO ....one things for sure, you can count on it in every way.)
SanDisk is garbage...never again. The integrity of the cards have tanked over the years.
Go Samsung....
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Adapter-MB-MG64DA-AM/dp/B00IVPU88U
Bingo! This card rocks and priced right!
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Lexar is every bit as good as Samsung if not better. they're owned by Micron/Crucial and are known in the photography and computer sphere for making the best chips out there, but I guess their stuff is marketed as more high brow so the average consumer isn't acquainted with the brand. Note that the Lexar cards have lifetime warranties for a reason.