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Upgrading microsd card

I want to upgrade the stock 4 GB microsd in my unrooted htc desire to a 16 GB microsd card. My question is can I copy what is on the 4 GB microsd and transfer them to the new 16 GB microsd and just insert it in? would all programs work?
many thanks for your help.

Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.

attu90 said:
Yet, the apps are on the phones memory and the info is on the SD card so you can just copy across.
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Cheers for the helpful reply.
Are ebay unbranded 16GB microsd cards reliable? Do they work?

i would stay away.

kmetek said:
i would stay away.
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I agree - I had lots of problems with an unbranded 16GB card. Eventually ebay closed the seller down as there were so many complaints. I did get my money back via paypal. I finally bought a branded 32GB card - costly (EUR100!), but I love having so much space for my music / video.

Is there really a need for anything above class 4?
My HTC Desire came with a sandisc 4GB class 2. I want to get a larger card, but never had any reading issues with the class 2, and music and video played off it with ease.
I've seen the following item here, which is for a class 6.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transcend-m...r-TS16GUSDHC6/dp/B001PLIG5Y/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t
Anyone got one of these?

I've just bought the 'ultra' version of Sandisk's 16GB microsd card and I am very impressed with it so far.
Personally, I always feel that it is best to stick with the tried and trusted brands, and sandisk products have always been excellent for me

I just bought a 16GB SanDisk class 2 from amazon and it writes on average at 5MB ish
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I thought the class number i.e. 2 meant the read and write speed 2Mbps. Therefore class 6 would be 6Mbps. If you have a class 2 and get 5Mbps then that is pretty impressive.

The Class of the SD card is simply the *minimum* sustained write speed on a card which is completely unfragmented. So, a completely blank Class 2 card should always be able to write large files out at least 2mb/s, but can easily be faster.
My 16gb Sandisk Class 2 reads at 20mb/s and writes at 7.5mb/s - well above the Class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave

my 32gb is a class 2 and i have zero issues with streaming video or music from the card, i expect when i root that apps will not be an issue either. plenty of read write speed.
the higher classes are for devices that require a higher bitrate for recording such as mini hd recorders and such.

Im running a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 and its like Lightning!

Micro SDHC Compatibility

Hi,
This may be a silly question for some but i've searched around and i still cannot find a definitive answer anywhere with regards to micro sdhc cards being used in the samsung galaxy s. If i was to purchase a micro sdhc card am i going to need some form of adapter? I only ask because most places i shop around only sell micro sdhc cards.
It was my understanding that the galaxy s only had a micro sd slot which is what is currently confusing me.
Thanks.

it supports up to 32 GB of microSD
anything larger than 4 GB = SDHC support

Galaxy S supports Micro SDHC.
(Allgamer basically said that, just in a slightly roundabout manner).

I'd like to know (please), whether the device can perform all functionality such as record hd and playback 720p movies over dlna from a class 2 card? I want to order a sandisk 16gb card, but would save the pennies on a class 4, if a class 2 performs well.

you could still get a class 6 16GB cheaper than getting a Class 2 16GB Sandisk, if you buy from other brands like Transcend (excellent), Adata, OCZ, Kingston, etc....

If it helps, I'm using an old class 6 Transcend 8GB. Bought for a micro DVcam (hence the need for class 6) last year and think it was around £10 then - possibly cheaper now?

You can get a 8 GB SDHC from DealExtreme.com for < $20 any day of the week.

Lexar Secure Digital 16GB class 10, 133X
How about this one?
Lexar Secure Digital 16GB class 10, 133X
Tip: SDHC
Size (MB): 16384
Rate (MB/s): 20MB/s
Class 10
Is Lexar a good name for memories?

I am currently using 4 GB Micro SDHC card with SGS.It is my old phones (HTC HD Mini) Micro SDHC card and it is working great.

I just bought this Wintec 16GB class 10 from Newegg.com... now whether it's an actual class 10 that's to be determined cause it's in the mail. But for $30 you at least get 16GB.

anyone try a-data 32gb class 10?
I'm curious if anyone try a-data 32gb class 10?
half the price of other 32gb cards.
the reason I ask is many folks report issues with hd cams.
Neil

neil85ae86 said:
I'm curious if anyone try a-data 32gb class 10?
half the price of other 32gb cards.
the reason I ask is many folks report issues with hd cams.
Neil
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you sure that is a class 10 micro SD 32GB? (i think it's a normal size SD)
if so, i'm soooooooo buying one
please post link, i want to buy

Talking about the classes.. ya think the GalaxyS can really max out the speed? I doubt so..

Sandisk 32GB SD card is a class10? What is the max read/write transfer rate can anyone can confirm? Please

MasK said:
Talking about the classes.. ya think the GalaxyS can really max out the speed? I doubt so..
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Class 6 write is quite easily archiveable, but i do doubt about Class 10

chattymango said:
Sandisk 32GB SD card is a class10? What is the max read/write transfer rate can anyone can confirm? Please
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not that i know of, so far all the confirmed legit SanDisk 32Gb has been Class 2
some places advertise they have Class 4 SanDisk 32Gb microSD but.... the picture and the price listed are those of a Class 2
some people have confirmed the Class 2 SanDisk 32Gb microSD can write 4Mb/s but that was on a new empty disk test
i would like to see some test done on 60% full 32Gb Class 2 SanDisk microSD to see if it can sustain a Class 4 write after half full, being a Class 2

check this review link http://www.testfreaks.com/blog/review/review-of-kingston-class-4-32gb-microsdhc-card/
should buy Kingston or Sandisk 32GB MicroSD for my Samsung GT-i9000 Galaxy S
or any other brand?

AllGamer said:
Class 6 write is quite easily archiveable, but i do doubt about Class 10
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How ?? A 720p video at maximum quality usually takes around 1.5 ~ 1.8MBps, so a Class 2 (2MBps guaranteed write speed) in theory should be quite sufficient, at least with my Class 2 cards I haven’t had any trouble recording 720p video.The Sandisk 16GB Class 2 I have can be written to at a minimum constant speed of 8MBps (has around 4Gigs of Data on it already). And the Nokia branded (not sure about the actual brand) 8GB Class 2 which I got with my previous Nokia phone can be written to at 4MBps + (has 7Gigs of Data already). So IMO as long as you go with a name brand you should be able to get more than 2MBps writing speed which should be enough for 720p video.
You might get better speeds when transferring large files to your phone, but how often do you do that ?? And if you do that over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth like I mostly do, it won't matter at all. Spending on anything above class 6 (e.g Class 10) IMO is a total waste of money. I use a class 6 on my DSLR to record 1080p video, haven't had any issues with it so far. So I hardly think Galaxy S can exhaust a Class 6 card, or even a branded Class 2.

video is a secondary use
i use it mainly for applications and data transfer (portable hard drive), the faster the better, the less noticeable lag, and speeds up Titanium Backup quite considerably

AllGamer said:
not that i know of, so far all the confirmed legit SanDisk 32Gb has been Class 2
some places advertise they have Class 4 SanDisk 32Gb microSD but.... the picture and the price listed are those of a Class 2
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The recent batch of SanDisk microSDHC cards (seen here in Brussels in Media Markt and Fnac) has Class 2 marking changed to Class 4 (8, 16 and 32GB). They have exactly the same packaging down to part numbers. That's mine for example: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e62/ping_ling/android/microsdhc.jpg
And here's something on it http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile...ught-new-card-is-this-fake/td-p/189102/page/2

Is a microsd class 2 enough for recording hd videos and running apps?

Im planning on buying a 16 gb microsd card but all i can find is cards class 2 is that enough for recording 720p and loading applications installed to the SD card ? keep in mind that i also plan un buying a optimus 2x which has 1080p recording
Which brand do you like better? sandisk? kigston? trascend?
I read that sandisk class 4 cards are REALLY good but they dont show up in their website or amazon :/ , it seems they only sell class 2 cards, and kingston offers cards class 10 and 4 , class 10 seems a little excessive

Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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yeah minimum a class 4
class 2 is just a pain, it will make you want to throw the phone away, and explode it into a million tiny bits
class 6 is the normal speed for a fluid experience

Im using a Sandisk 32GB class 2 card, it writes at 5~7Mb/s depending if its a large file or several smaller ones and read as higher than 15Mb/s

iammodo said:
Class 4 but really class 6 is what u need class 2 will die
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class 2 will die? u mean its on its way out?
Ive been reading good comments about the sandisk cards, but they only sell class 2 cards :/ , what brands are u guys using?

If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
Hope this helps.

lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.

kms108 said:
If you are getting a 16gb card, or less sandisk, kingston or toshiba, class 2 or class 4 offers similar read/write speed, although the toshiba and kingston is a little faster, the sandisk is much stable.
Read is about 11-14mb
write is about 8mb
I had a toshiba 16gb class 2 in my i9000, it plays 720p videos without any problems, now i am using a lexar 32gb class 10, results aren't any different.
Hope this helps.
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so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?

soulzero said:
lexar 32gb class 10? jezus christ you must have payen an arm and a leg for that ****.
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Approximate usd 85.

The class designation of SD Cards ONLY represents the sustained WRITE speed to the card in MB/s. So, class 2 means it can be written to at 2MB/s, while class 10 means it can be written to at 10MB/s.
The designation has no reference whatsoever to the read speed of the card. So, basically every response stating otherwise in this thread is wrong. You should be able to get suitable sustained read speeds out of any class 2 or higher SD Card for the purposes you will be using it for. It will just take you longer to transfer the data to it in the first place. As for video recording from your phone, class should should be plenty as I'm pretty sure 720P comes in under 2MB/s.

Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.

Chad_Petree said:
so basically you're saying i can buy any card i like and itll be fine?
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The speed of the card used in the phone does not make much of a difference, its onlt when you transfer data to and from Pc, but its always best to get the fastest available, if the budget is the main problem, consider getting a kingston or toshiba, but make sure you get one that is made in japan, as the taiwan version is a litttle slower, japan version are becoming harder to get now, since the japan factor has transferred their production to the taiwan site.
The classes stated on each card is only the minimum it will reach.
Class 2 at least 2 mb read/write
class 4 at least 4 mb read/write. etc.
So it can be anything above the actual figures.
For more info on microsd, see my link in the sig, although its a little out dated.

soulzero said:
Wow, yea. Just that i seen some online shops which class 2 32gb cost 100$
But on amazon the lexar class10 32gb is really cheap...
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-MicroSD...610M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296152464&sr=8-1
Anyway, i got a 16gb class2 card (a-data) and i can play 720p and record just fine...
Electroz is right. Its only about transferring and stuff.
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The actual retail price for the lexar 32gb class 10 is 149 usd.

No problems with 32GB Class 2 here, it can record and decode 720p just fine, and there is nothing else as intensive as those tasks that you'll be doing with this handset (may not be enough to support 1080p in future handsets, but that remains to be seen).
Don't buy into this rubbish about needing Class 4 or 6 cards, unless you regularly load very large numbers of small files to your card, in which case you may want the higher write speeds.

when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load
repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed

You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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francomur99 said:
You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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for that price I can get 2 class 10 Kingmax 16gb.

francomur99 said:
You can buy a Kingmax 16GB Class 6 at Amazon for £43. I didn't had any problem to find it. Class 6 is much better. See you - Frank
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amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera

AllGamer said:
when you run apps and/or games off the SD (App2SD) the slower the card the more time it takes to have a fluid experience, specially heavy stuff from gamesoft, or simply opening the application manager and waiting for the icons to load repeat the same tasks with a slower card vs a faster card and you'll see the difference
of course you'll not really see much of a difference, unless you card is more than 50% full, and have over 300+ apps installed
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If your getting cards from a non generic name brand, the read speeds should be around 15-25Mb/s , My class 6 card actually had a slower read speed of 15Mb/s compared to my Class2 ( 28Mb/s )
At the end of the day the difference between loading something was barely noticeable even skipping to different portions of a 3.7GB movie, Im guessing the phone it self is the bottleneck and not the card.
1% or 99% full should have ZERO effect on the read/write speed this is not some mechanical drive nor having 1 or all the apps in the market.
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Again the class rating is only a rate on what is the minimum write speed the card can handle, sandisk rates their 32GB at class 2 when it writes at 6-7Mb/s ( making it class 6 ) on the phone and about 10Mb/s using a card reader ( making it class 10 )

AllGamer said:
amazon is always over priced, i rather buy them locally at the computer stores
Adata microSDHC 16GB, class 6 $35
Wintec microSDHC 16GB, Class 10 $36.49
Patriot microSDHC 16GB, class 4 $40
Kingston microSDHC 16GB, class 10 $102
i can also get authentic
Kingston 32GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Card W/ Full Size SDHC Secure Digital Adapter $116.15
so at £43 pounds i easily get 2x Adata 16 GB class 6
which i already have many (each of my 5 phones has one, plus another one on the video camera CountourHD 1080p), and they work really good
LOL i always run out of battery before i run out of space in my video camera
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yeh, buying from a local store is cheaper, from the same price of a kingston 16gb class 10, you can get a 32gb class 4, but the fastest microsd on the market is the kingston 32gb class 10, but stock is very limited due to high prices, and you probable need to place an order and pay in advanced, i'm still searching for one, since the last time i heard about it about 9 months ago.
adata are the cheapest cards now, but the speed are rather slow, compared when they only released the 8gb about a year ago.

What memory card do you recommend me?

I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you

Just for the record, I'm more tempted by a 32 GB...

depends what you are going to be using it for?
music apps photos etc?
i have a 16Gb class 10 Joytech card in mine and it performs very well

Well, regardless of what you're going to use it for, extra free space is always welcome, and who knows, maybe you'll find yourself in need for more space than a 8 gb or 16, so, if the price difference ain't that big, go for 32.

The biggest and fastest you can get . Recently I bought 16GB class 10, because a/ I wanted to see if a faster card would make the shutter in video recording go away and b/ I needed a bigger card (one that would be enough to store a full season of TV shows - roughly 8GB and have space for my photos/music/apps). Because for me faster was more important than bigger I searched for class 10 cards and settled for 16GB (at a bargain price too - 30 EUR). I have to say that I'm very happy with it - it's really class 10, no shutter at all and I have enough space to copy a full season of a TV show to have with me to watch while I have nothing else to do.

whatever size you do get make sure its minimum class 6 or above otherwise as stated the speed (or lack of) may start to annoy you

SanDisk 16GB, best price-performance ratio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fipec said:
I'm from the perspective of purchasing a memory card, 16 or 32 GB
I await your advice to not buy anything.
thank you
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Go for 32 Gigs.
even tho if youre low on money go for it! then you`l never go out of space
and the DHD dont slow down either so its a win win win!

Would recomend you to get atleast a 8gb class 6, you can get them for under 9GBP on amazon. In my opinion those are the bare minimums. You need class 6 to record 720p video without stutter and 8 gb holds decent ammount of music/videos.
It all depends on how much you willing to spend in reality.
Personally i just bought Patriot 16GB class 10.

I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.

maarten00 said:
I don't think anything above class 6 is very useful seeing as the memory card reader on the DHD may not be fast enough to read/write anything faster than that, but I could be wrong. I have a 16GB Class 4 Duracell myself which works at very high speeds, way above the classification. For it's price a very good card, in my opinion. But I'd go for 32GB if I had the money for it.
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The DHD can read/write at speeds way higher than 6MB/s. My class 10 card has transfers of 19/11 MB/s (in the phone, not via a SD adapter) and there are reports of beter (and more expensive) class 10 cards working at even higher speeds.

Transcend 32 gb class 2 ( 4 mbyte/s write, 10 mbyte/s read)
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I have a class 4 and I never noticed any video shutter

Thank you for all your replies.
I have almost 10GB of music and movies to put on.
I bought a SanDisk 16GB class 6.
Thanks

Recommeded Sd Card 16gig
well i use kingston 16gig class 2 and it seem to be fine nat had any problems with it have used other sdcard found kingston and scan disk to be about the best

32gb MicroSD advice please

I am looking at either a Lexar or Samsung both class 10, both around £37.
any advise as to which one is best based on anyone using.
The other question is do you need to format before use?
At the moment I have a 16gb but it is 98% full. Never chenged a card before was planning to copy the old card into a folder on laptop and then back onto the new card.
Any advise welcome,,,,,,,,

Go with transcend. If they have 32gb class 10.

They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....

kjt57 said:
They only do a 16gb class 10. I looked for Transcend first as I prefer this brand.....
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I like transcend more than anything else.

I never had luck with transcend, i have a sandisk 32 gig which works great,
i had a kingston 32 class 10 within a few weeks it just burnt out on me it stop reading and wouldnt want to format or anything

I'm also looking for a 32gb micro sdhc for my HTC Vogue. I currently have a Sandisk 16gb that is nearly full. Earlier today I stumbled onto this thread from here at XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
I found it quite helpful. I hope you do too.
I was surprised that class 10 cards weren't the best choice for the things I use my Vogue for.
Here is a passage that surprised me...
"Class 2 and 4 cards have better random access speed and random read/write than class 6 or 10 cards in general. To get higher sequential write speeds, manufacturers sacrifice the random access speeds.".

I would agree with Random read/write access might be better in Class 4 cards than Class 10...
But arent we forgetting that most of the applications are read more than Written when u open it.. I think a faster read speed with lower write speed would still be better than having lower read/write all together...Not unless you are downloading a torrent in background and running HD game with it... infact in that situation.. both cards will fail badly..

I prefer Sandisk.
A class 4 should generally give proper performance... 10 seems a bit overkill imho.

I've used the 8GB class 4 memory card that came with the Sensation for a while, and after switching to a 32GB class 10 Lexar I must say - it DOES make a difference. It's a totally different experience.

Been using SAMSUNG ESSENTIAL 32GB MicroSD for more than 2 months without issues. It has helped me to parallely download videos from tubemate in high speeds. Good writing and reading speeds. No slowdowns/jatter in 1080P recording which iam always using to cap my child.

Just bought a 32GB Class 10 Samsung card from play.com for £34.99. Working great so far!

I got the 16GB SD card for two reasons
1. The 16GB has a faster write speed.
2. I didn't have $90 to spend on the 32GB.
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MPAGA/US?from_mobile=true
Oh also I did not pat $55 for the 16GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005TUQUZA/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?redirect=true
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hilljd00 said:
How fast is it?
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Copied a film over to it via usb last night and was getting 11.6 mb/s. Haven't tested with the card in a reader but would probably be faster even still.
Phil