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Iphone 5 is nothing special

So the iphone 5 has nothing special over the S3 apple is going to fall behind. I in a year imagine where android will be and apple will be trying to play catch up.
Galaxy S3 still the king of the Hill!!!
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Agreed. S3 ***** slaps it day and night.
On both cheeks too
From the I-killer

The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.

720p front facing camera sounds sick but I never use video chat so that's useless haha. Aside from that I DO NOT regret buying the s3 at all
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I'm feeling pretty underwhelmed by the announcement...

sebastianraven said:
The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
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Agreed. I had the 4s before my rezound and damn that thing felt solid
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It'll be interesting to see how long it takes for Apple's app base to migrate to the larger screen. Having some of your apps letterboxed is going to take away from the cohesive Apple experience that is so often touted.

i was going to start a thread about the iPhone, the title was going to be "Thank you Apple for making me love my SIII more and more"...
seriously Apple, where's the innovation you talk about.
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hopesrequiem said:
720p front facing camera sounds sick but I never use video chat so that's useless haha. Aside from that I DO NOT regret buying the s3 at all
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I believe many devices have HD front camera

I also wasn't too impressed by the keynote speech. I also thought the 720p front facing camera was pretty sick, although it's something I rarely use anyway.
I was amused when they were touting their maps application, as if Google maps on android wasn't doing navigation and points of interests for years now.
I just can not imagine going back to a tiny 4 inch screen now. Basically had that on my original Dinc forever.

They're still playing catchup with our phones, but that doesn't matter: they have an exiting install base which will overwhelmingly upgrade in the short term and think the iPhone 5 is the greatest innovation ever, while their closed environment continues to keep them happy and secure year after year (i.e., it's a positive selling point and an implicit means of control).
I don't see many defections from Apple over this announcement, but then again, I don't see any reasons to go over from Android devices unless you were already in the market for an Apple phone.
- ooofest

Once again behind the curve. Epect even more dumbass lawsuits to catch up
From the I-killer

I think their biggest update was IOS 6 which included tons of features (catch up to S3 features) that not too many people would notice and use them anyway. The only obvious is the front face camera and 4G, but may drag down by small screen.

I'm no fanboy obviously but it is a nice phone. The specs are decent but nothing innnovative and the biggest downside to me was no NFC. It is in fact the future especially with VZW and Isis coming together.

kpkimmel said:
I'm no fanboy obviously but it is a nice phone. The specs are decent but nothing innnovative and the biggest downside to me was no NFC. It is in fact the future especially with VZW and Isis coming together.
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They tried to compete with NFC by using pass book where it stored a bunch of virtual credit card and I guess the cashier have to use the scanner to scan the code from the phone. Correct me if I'm wrong.

sebastianraven said:
The iPhone 5 doesn't have the same power that the S3 has, but the only thing I wish is that the build quality on the S3 was on par. I know the plastic keeps the costs down, but there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
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Using glass/metal doesn't mean build quality. The iPhone 4/4S can't even survive a single drop and is fragile, that's low build quality.
Samsung phones may have plastic but are extremely durable and well built.

I've owned 2 iphones. They lost me with the lies, lawsuits, and pretending to have pioneered technology they didn't. Won't go back
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sprintuser1977 said:
I've owned 2 iphones. They lost me with the lies, lawsuits, and pretending to have pioneered technology they didn't. Won't go back
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Oh, but LOOK: they have a Map(s-like) application! It's amazing! (Almost replicates Google Maps and Navigation, but) made by Apple so . . . it's brand new and innovative!
Yeah, sometimes it seems that their marketing is for dittoheads, with the same style of living in a soundproof reality.
- ooofest

i also am not impressed at all.

sebastianraven said:
there is something to be said about having a device that is all glass and aluminum.
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Because aluminum denting and glass shattering are good qualities.

I'm typically a fan of Apple products but man was I let down today
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The GS4 is really the GS3S

Samsung takes a leaf out of Apple's book & recycles the design of its last flagship device.
Admit it's just a GS3 with a few extra bells & whistles, upgrade the innards check, upgrade the camera check & alter the screen a bit. Bang you have yourself a new flagship, market the hell out of it & watch the sales roll in.
At least HTC made a big change between the One & the One X, especially in design and innovated in the camera rather than just banging more megapixels on it.
That said it still looks a very strong device & I might get one.

Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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We haven't even officially seen the device yet...all those images/videos could be fake
Either way still destroys about 99% of the phones on the market...
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Will find out soon.

bbrad said:
Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996

Super Chimp said:
No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996
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OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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bbrad said:
OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.

Super Chimp said:
What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.
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You would be a perfect iPhone fanboy
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Snapdragon S4 for the US market :\
I'm guessing that means the LTE version and the 3G version is using the Octa core CPU....
Just kills the phone for me right there.

Its funny cause the phone did turn out to be a gs3s
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when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2

haldi15 said:
when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2
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Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.

crawlgsx said:
Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.
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the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2

haldi15 said:
the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2
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You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.

ErebusRaze said:
You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.
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Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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bbrad said:
Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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Constructive rebuttal. The phone is flimsy, and the quality of material used is sub par. If you're used to such things then it's fine. I've had all of the Galaxy S phones and now own the S3. As an owner it's disheartening to own a phone with such lackluster material in comparison to far more premium build phones that are equally as powerful and cost the same amount. Why don't I just switch? I probably won't and I'll wait for the S V as it'll be a worth while jump in speed and efficiency.

I just have to agree, in my own opinion, the S4 didn't make HUGE design changes. On that, I think most agree. I'd still love to have it. Though, Not as much as I would like to have the HTC One.
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Apple is gonna sue
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I was a little disappointed...but there running out of room to improve on...over all I'm satisfied...if you already have an s3 then there isn't much reason to upgrade to it...but if your just ending your two year then its the perfect phone...
The one looks nice...but its missing the ad card...that is a necessity for me and many others...I could care less about removable battery, I just want my sd slot...I love music too much, streaming lowers the quality and 32gb on board just isn't enough when each song is 10-20mbs...
Anyways...ill admit, I am a Samsung fanboy....I hate HTC - they are a pain to get setup for Roma compared to Samsung devices...unlocking bootloader, s-off...just a pain. I gave HTC a try and I don't think ill ever give them another...
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Plastic IS NOT A SUB-PAR MATERIAL. There are many areas other than cost that Samsung's "plastic" is superior to aluminum in a mobile device application. Hell, car manufacturers figured that out a long time ago.
As long as the screen is more durable than on the S3, I doubt the build is "cheap" except to the uneducated.
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[Discussion] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?

Is it just me, or is the Galaxy S IV the phone that everyone was expecting right before the Galaxy S III was announced one year ago?
When I saw the specs and first photos of the S IV my first thought was "Wow!! It's the phone I wished for one year ago but Samsung gave me the damn S III."
Don't get me wrong, the SIII was good, not better than the One X if you take raw speed out of the equation, but a great device overall, a best seller and the phone everyone is trying to sell now to either get a Note 2, an Iphone 5, a S IV or the HTC One. But if the SIII was the S4 (again not speaking about raw speed or the octa core cpu) most of them wouldn't bother.
It's like Samsung IS trying to screw us out of our money just as they did with the SIII, they said a Pentile Matrix is more resilient to time but they went with RGB on the Note 2. They knew everyone was gonna buy it so they said "****'em, they'll eat it up anyway". Very Apple-like technique if you don't mind me saying so.
Oh, and I'm really not trolling or trying to be trolled at, I honestly want to know what people and not fanboys have to say and think about it, and when I say fanboys I mean all of them, no matter if it's Samsung, HTC, Apple (I don't think there's any other kind of brand-fanboy in the mobile world out there)

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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple

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n1ggyn1ce said:
well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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tru dat
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No. I am liking what I see. I already enjoy my GS3. And I am almost certainly going to enjoy the Galaxy S4.
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The camera, screen, battery tech and big.LITTLE CPU weren't possible back then, at least not enough to meet demand or at any reasonable cost to consumers. Android 4.2.2 also wasn't released yet. I'm not really sure what you mean, since the S3 was already better than the One X in many ways. The only thing I could see the S3 launching with were the different design and the floating touch tech, but at least the remaining apps and software features will come to the S3 as well.

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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Arsaw said:
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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this is not what I asked, I said that it's the device everyone thought that was coming last year, and I did specify that I am NOT talking about the CPU or raw power of the device, I was talking about features and innovation, and even the actuall ppi of the screen since the matrix is pentile on the s3 and with 65% of really visible pixels the display no matter how good is still not the flagship display you'd expect.

howtomen said:
Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.

I was expecting both posts to merge
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The pentile phobia is ridiculous at 440ppi. The human eye can't see it. Are you walking around with your microscope?
I also cringe when I read misleading post like "the S4 is like the S3". This comes from HTC CEO who said after the S4 launch "It's more of the same". This was clearly said in an intent to discredit Samsung and was said early after HTC declare war on Samsung.
The fact that Samsung has slowly but steadily climbed the top rung and has developed a strong fan following is not lost out on other phone makers. Almost every other phone maker is now looking at Samsung as a threat and their actions are spurred by Samsung releases
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SOURCE->http://www.indiatimes.com/technology/enterprise/phone-makers-declare-war-against-samsung-66939.html
It's too bad that people react like this. There is place for all kinds of phones(even iphone, my 80 years old mom needs a non-customizable phone).
You can try to degrade it as much as youwant. The FACTS remains that the S4 is differrent in every single aspect thus making it a new generation.
HTC fans should be happy that the S4 is not what the S3 should have been. Can you imagine much far behind the competition would be?
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
Well the imaginary phone that u sre talking about is certainly not the s3 but the original note. Because next year when note 2 came nobody felt the need of changing their note and we got all the functionality of a note 2.
S4 really has a tough competition. So going leaps away is what tuey needed to do. They didnt put their octa out yet. They will tweak it to outrun the google X phone. Then maybe release it with KLP. so one flagship will compete twice like HOX.
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crossmission said:
oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.
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Hahahaha. I love this reply. SO true! :angel:

Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.

Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No.
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Strategist said:
Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.
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All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+

Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.

Kremata said:
All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+
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You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.

sohebq said:
Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.
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I often said that I was a fan of the Power/capability of the phone but not necessarily Samsung. In fact the first thing I was doing when having a new phone was to remove all Samsung apps. But now I think Samsung features have grown to a point where it's nearly futuristic. I mean, I started a thread where I ask people "What specs or features the SGS4 Should've had? " and nobody can come up with features as awesome as what the S4 already have.
I think those features will be the decision makers for Mr. and Mrs. everybody. Yes the HTC One looks a bit more premium with it's alumium chassis but if I show the two phones and show how I can just tell my phone "Play music" or I can put the phone on the table and take a picture of myself just by saying "Shoot"(no need to use the front camera anymore), it creates a big wow factor. The best HTC One could come up with is Blinkfeed(which is Flipboard-like).
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Andrewtst said:
You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.
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So by your logic they could've keep the same cpu/gpu/screen/ram etc.. but change the design, then the phone would've been a big update?
Wow ok, nice talking with you.

So what do you guys think about this?

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.

barondebxl said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.
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I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:

shox22 said:
I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:
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Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )

i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen

I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.

yeah, "worried" is definitely inaccurate, they are far from worried but let's all keep it real here and not be too one sided. The One has an incredible design and great choice of material ( I won't give it credit for build quality cause they always have QC issues), apparently most people like that. So imagine if Samsung can ( and they certainly can) make the next flagship with a whole new design, choose a strong kind of material, I think it'll be game over for everyone else. We here all like the plastic but many don't, so Samsung will make everyone happy by changing things a little.

Strategist said:
I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.
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I absolutely agree on the replaceable battery and SD card, this is something they cannot get rid of. But they can pull off a different design and keep those two in place without a problem.

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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"Galaxy Mega." Someone listened to the Engadget Mobile podcast.
I have plumped for the HTC One, coming from the Galaxy S2 due to 2 year contracts, and never cared for what others call "premium" builds.
Having owned the HTC One for a few days now I have to say that having a phone made from more "expensive feeling" materials is by no means a bad thing.
It can only be a good thing if Samsung start putting a bit more effort into handset design. We all know that Samsung usually have the better specs. It really can't hurt to back this up with better design.
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barondebxl said:
Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )
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Yes, they should definitely change the design. Last year most people were like: "look at that ugly sgs3"... but after a while, the people get used to it. But thtat doesnt mean samsung designs are nice. They are not in my eyes.
The One X was a really cute smartphone made of polycarbonat. It still feels 10000 times better then the glossy plastic s3 (and probably s4). If they use that kind of plastic, it would be a big step forward in look and feel. But i doubt they will do. It will be for sure more expensiv.

What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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Agreed with the Hyperglaze. My S2's back-plate/battery cover was matte, and it was just fine, looked good too.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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You're absolutely right, and I actually said it a few posts above ^^. HTC has great designs and choice of material is arguably very good ( has its own pros and cons) but I can't give them credit for their build quality cause they always have QC issues.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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100% certified, correct. To quote my own signature, "don't mistake build materials for build quality". From multiple accounts, the HTC One build quality is poor.
I will bet that the Galaxy S4 build quality will exceed the HTC One's build quality. Argue materials all you would like, but it's time for reviewers, forum members, and the general public to learn the English language. Materials, by definition, is not quality.

I dunno, I like the build just fine but maybe they could use matte polycarbonate like Lumia or HOX. I prefer those over the hyperglaze.
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Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality?
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What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Right on, brother. Sad that all the tech sites are quoting this, though. Tech blogs love to put in zero effort to their sources.
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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It's been replaced by this.
And for our international members, this.

I perfer lighter case or design no matter plastic or metal.

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What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
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This was enough said, for me:
The simple Nature UX interface by Samsung is easy to use and, thanks to the new smart functions, Samsung’s new interface makes the Galaxy S4 even more smarter.
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BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
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One thing is for sure though, Samsung is NOT worried. But they may consider changing their design for next year.

Do You Feel Cheated?

Hi All,
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera. Personally i am ok with that trade off as i get water proof features and a much better build quality. The pixel density is much more as well.
Rumoured Specs of Active from GSMARENA:
The specs are expected to be the same and the live pictures below confirm it - the device is running on a quad-core 1.9GHz processor with Adreno 320 GPU, which most definitely means a Snapdragon 600 chipset. The screen supposedly has the same size and resolution as the original Galaxy S4 - a 5.0-inch 1080p unit, though it's unclear if it's a Super AMOLED one or not. Strangely enough, the reported pixel density of the phone is 480ppi, so the display might actually be smaller.
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I personally think this is actually the real Flagship from Samsung for this year and not S4, what are your thoughts, do you think you have been cheated by Samsung is you are an S4 owner, or you think it is a part of the market strategy and a must for samsung to consolidate it's numero uno position.

Its 480 dpi not ppi.
So its exactly same actually.

I feel cheated would have preferred a waterproof one as it's always rainy in the UK
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Why should it be DPI? DPI is no measurement for displays ...
Antutu is just showing false information.
Ontopic: Why would anyone feel cheated? It's the exact same phone, plus better durability and minus the 13 MP camera.
And even if it was better, do you sleep worse at night, when there is some faster phone out there? :laugh:

No nothing like that, i still remember people going all out on HTC when HTC one x+ was release saying that how they lost out on a flagship device, when they expected the flagship device the same way for one year. In this case S4 probably would maintain being a flagship for less then 3 months, so a lot of people might feel sad.
For me personally i think it is the right step, maybe this is what they wanted to launch as S4 all along, but probably were not able to complete the tests on time to release it in April.

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So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera.
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What makes it a "much better phone?" It's a "different" phone and I'm willing to bet it'll be more expensive than the SGS4. If it's like other waterproof phones all the ports will have covers on them which is a pain in the ass. So it'll appeal to some people (not everyone wants a red phone) and not to others. But to those that want its features and bought a SGS4 because they didn't know the "Active" was coming I can see them feeling "cheated." I'd also question whether the standard SGS4 accessories will work with the Active which could be a downside for some people.

S4 is the main flagship of Samsung and it will stay that way until S5 comes out.
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1) The screen will not be that bright than normal S4 and probably there will be no air view. Also, dropping will still not be a survival situation for it
2) the battery can't be removed and there is no evidence of sdcard slot yet
3) the top and bottom rubber will scratch and break in time and those 3 buttons are crap, they should use buttons like Back and menu on the original S4
However, that red is nice, but making the original S4 more solid and S4 Active like it's easy with a Spigen Slim Armor. There are ways to make the phone waterproof too.
A great feature is that if you want to make a tea or warm the bath water, you can play a 3D game and then submerge the phone in that water. It will warm the water (S-thermo?)
also, don't forget how many time you guys needed to take the battery out when flashed or just because the phone frozen. I'm curious how you guys will do it now lol
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I don't feel cheated. I probably would have waited and bought the Galaxy S4 Active, except that I was still using an original Droid X. So it really was well past time to upgrade. I guess the fact that it lasted this long without any such protection (or even a case) means I really shouldn't worry so much about dust or moisture.
Hopefully by the time I need my next phone, the "active" version will be waterproof to 5m or more. Now that would be something. I also don't care about dust; but I'd love to see a phone that can withstand sand without a screen protector.

Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Where you guys see S4 Pro? I see everywhere S600 :what:
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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed

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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed
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Yeah, I'm sick of speculations too. However, most of phones which are water and dust resistant doesn't have bright screen as the S4. You can see the photos, the brightness is minimum I think, but the screen is too reflective because probably is thicker. But of course, let's just wait.

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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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I'll only be mad if it has more storage