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HTC Sensation official - HTC London Live Event

Looks like the best choice for those looking to upgrade to native Android on a dual core beast
Think I'll be holding on to my HD2 for an extra month as my upgrade is middle of May but will be released in mid June on official carrier partners so fingers crossed O2.
Read the live blog now: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/live-from-htcs-april-12th-event/
Looks like a great phone to me and my ideal replacement.

Not impressed
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.

I think the Pyramid (I'm not keen on the new sensation name) is gonna be my next phone, though my upgrade isn't till next year so maybe something shinier will be around by then.
I have to admit the spec on the Galaxy S2 is impressive but i'm not feeling the looks. It honestly looks like a poorly executed iPhone4

Moandal said:
I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. The Galaxy S 2 either matches or beats this phone in almost every respect. It's shorter, thinner and a lot lighter. It has 33% more RAM, and 16 times the onboard storage. The front camera has more than double the pixel count, and it has NFC support. While the HTC has a slightly higher screen resolution, it has a smaller screen area than the S2 because it has a higher aspect ratio (i.e. it's narrower).
It seems HTC can't even play catch-up very well now.
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The samsung might be good on paper but living with them is a different story,ive had an i8910.looked great on paper at the time,great looking phone but build quility,a major let down,had 3 in total and gave up and got a htc hero at the time,htcs go on for years,much better built

I'm also not keen on the current Galaxy S's screen as comes across with a blue tint, the AMOLED screen doesn't seem to do white well at all. I'm guessing it'll be similar on the S2. Yeah it's smaller, lighter and thinner but I'm not keen on plastic phones tend to break easier, my HD2 has been dropped numerous times and survived with little evidence. I'm liking the Sensation alot regardless of paper comparisons.

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I had a samsung galaxy s and sold it with in 48 hours. I've had so many htc phones and really haven't had a complaint yet. plus htc just purchased cwm, so they care about our community here. And that's the most important to me.
On a side note. Tried the atrix and only liked the web top and hdmi out features. Sold it on the same day I got it. Still rocking the hd2.

Had my G1 up until about 3 months ago when i sold it for 150 and bought my brand new hd2. I am currently available for an upgrade on Tmobile. This will be my next new phone. I hope the 1500 ma battery can hang. I'm wondering if maybe the evo ed's 1750 ma battery will fit the sensation. If that is the case this is gonna be a great phone. It will be a great phone even if it doesnt fit. Since this is clearly a flagship phone I'm sure someone will make a case with the extra battery built in. I'm pumped for this phone. Congrats to me!

if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
With that said, though I like what I am seeing, I am going to have to see what goes on with the AT& T merger. I can see them sneaking some language in there about having to roll over to AT&T if I get that particular phone. If T-mo DOES NOT merge this will be my next phone unless HTC or Motorola is coming out with a phone that sports Tegra for graphics/games.
Until then it will be me and my HD2.

The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos

My next phone. Period.
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steve austin said:
if you are claiming to be a high-end phone, and want to be acknowledged as such - and you don't have a freaking flash - you are immediately withdrawn from contention IMO. Therefore the Galaxy is not part of the discussion. I am tired of companies making phones they way they see fit and ignoring the basic needs of the consumers.
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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.

Moandal said:
What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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excuse me, flash for the camera. most of the world, with cell phones, don't live where there is daylight 24/7. utilization of facebook and other social media sites are major factors when considering a phone. to not have a flash, in 2011, is beyond asinine - irrespective of other specs and features.

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What are you talking about? The Galaxy S 2 most certainly has Adobe Flash 10.1.
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He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation

t-mo recently sent me a text about upgrading to the Galaxy. Essentially, giving me an early upgrade option. I hope they do that with this phone (barring any merger shenanigans)

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash. I was going to get this phone, but I decide to get the evo 3d. Sexier looking and has 1gig compared to 768 of sensation
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thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.

steve austin said:
thank you.
On the EVO note. I am really going to compare the EVO 3d and the Sensation. That merger might give me the get out of jail free card I need.
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Exactly what I was thinking, with the whole merger that it's going to be going down in the future.

mattfmartin said:
He's talking about camera flash.
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But it's got that too, so I still don't understand.

DarkStone1337 said:
The sensation will be my next phone for sure.
The biggest point for me is the qHD screen! I prefer the resolution over the SGS II as well as the body quality.
Doesn't hurt that there's dual mics for stereo recording of videos
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I know that you said you probably wouldn't have time to cook anything again but I always held hope that you would return with another completely innovative idea. Sad to know that you won't even be in this section anymore. Maybe that means I'll have to by a Pyramid and keep hoping over there .

any ideas if telstra or any other att 3g compatible carrier will be getting this? if so it will be my next phone.

Sensation will be this years phone, and i ll buy it.
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Disappointed in S4

I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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crashck said:
I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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LoL
you're obviously very young and don't know (yet) how the (human) world works...
it's all about gaining money, power, prestige, ...
Core Facts vs S3
1. It's thinner, smaller and thus lighter.
2. Yet it has a bigger/better screen, is much stronger and way faster.
3. It has a bigger/better battery, camera,...
1 => speaks for itself
2 => Full HD Super AMOLED (new diamiond Matrix), Polycarbonate and Gorilla glass 3, Qualcomm 600/Exynos 5 Octa, LPDDR3 RAM,...)
3 => speaks for itself
Don't be fooled by what you hear and see on the internet. Listen inside yourself and get enlightened :laugh:
Do you really believe you need this or any other device? LoL, enjoy life mate
-Sam-
Edit: yes, it's a S3+

Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?

matt.wolfley said:
Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
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Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?

I don't know why so many people are dissatisfied. I thinks it's a nice phone. Why is everyone complaining about Samsung not changing the design very much? There is nothing wrong with it. If it isn't broke then don't fix it. Samsung found a solid phone design and rolled with it. I'm just glad they didn't remove the sd card slot, added some nice features (even if some call them gimmicky). I probably won't buy it though, since my upgrade isn't for a year. I'll be interested to see what the gs5 is like next year.

Disappointed as well I wanted at least a new look.. And I heard the SGS3 is getting most of the new features of the 4 through updates anyways.
So just a little bummed about this phone

As someone that's planning on upgrading a gs2 (wife) and move away from windows phone (me) I found the style of the gs4 to be something that both my wife and I like. Some of the features built into the phone, while seemingly gimmicky such as the health/exercise tracking, appeal to me.
So compared to the last couple of phones my family has used, it will be a huge improvement. The last android phone I used was an og droid.

People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness

MohJee said:
Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
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I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.

I say let the free market speak what it thinks of the new S4.
See my post on this pricing thread to see what Ebay prices are, already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39194227&postcount=6
Summary, all for GT-I9500, 16 or 64 GB, which is rumored selling in China already: Buy it now from US, $844 w/ free shipping. From UK another vendor at $752.
First lot of 2 GT-I9500 for US $1375, 2nd lot of 2 for $1225. Biy 20 and the 64 GB is $500 each.
I was expecting first units being sold closer to $1k. Between these prices, and the disappointment some posters have expressed, I think the GS4 may have under-whelmed. It may be getting looked at as an incremental GS3 update, especially since many software features will appear on the GS3.
I think the GS4 seems fine so far, but I'd really like to know the audio chip, and the prospects for FM radio on all variants (see sig).
But the free market probably knows more than I, or most of us do, LOL. Will be interesting to see how it plays out; (grabs popcorn...)

boe said:
I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
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As long as Samsung continues to use the same radio set up that it has used on the charge, the nexus, and the S3, reception is going to continue to be weak on Verizon's network.

The S4 is a huge upgrade from the S3; on the inside. But for me I don't care one bit that the phone looks the same because I've used cases on all my phone since the Droid OG days. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last phone I went caseless and it really started to look bad after white glove use. After that every phone I bought got a medium to heavy duty case.
I actually would have been upset at Samsung if they used a metal design and in the process deleted the removable battery. You can't make everyone happy unless you release 2 models at the same time.

crashck said:
I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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People were saying the exact same thing when the S3 came out. "It's ugly", "it's iterative", "it's gimmicky". But it got rave reviews. Why? Because it was the best smartphone you could buy at the time, and the S4 will fill the same role this time around. If you look at the comments (and even articles) on the S4 on tech sites, you'll see people foaming at the mouth, seemingly furious that Samsung dared release this product. It doesn't help that random internet users and articles alike are spreading misinformation (about the size of the device, about the processors used in both the international and U.S. versions, about how Samsung apparently forced the S3 on everyone through marketing, etc.).
Here's my take on the S4 and why I think it is the best phone available and will sell even more than the S3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39186031&postcount=13

I really don't know what people are expecting from the S4... If Samsung came up with a different design but lower specs, people would say it's not worth it to upgrade because the hardware is not good enough. And now they will not upgrade because of the shape. I personally see fitting a 5" screen on the device size is revolutionary already.
Moreover, what you get with Samsung, you don't get with HTC and Sony. These motion features, gestures, built-in apps, dual camera, and using the phone with gloves are what make the S4 the S4.
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.

SamerBerjawi said:
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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+ the S4 has both removable battery and micro sd-card slot...
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I'm hugely disappointing in it, especially in the cheap look and no doubt cheap feel it will have. Where as you look at the HTC One Sony XZ and no doubt any forth coming Motorola phones to see the massive improvement in build quality and considerably better premium feel to it.
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.

DramatikBeats said:
People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
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sgs4 will ship with 4.2.1 and a month later samsung will put out an update to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/08/galaxy-s-iv-to-have-floating-touch-and-green-pholed-material-amoled-display/
http://thequantummechanics.wordpress.com/tag/samsung-galaxy-s4/

kopkiwi said:
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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100% subjective. I don't want a thicker, heavier device that I will feel in my pocket and will hit the ground harder when I drop it—and get even bulkier and heavier with a case. Thinner and lighter has been the trend for a while and people seem to like it. I also don't see how you can see all of Samsung's features as bloat and gimmicks when not only does Sense weigh down the interface more than TouchWiz, but you can't even turn off some of the added 'features' like you can with TouchWiz. Everyone I know with an S3 or Note 2 enjoys leaving on and using features like Smart Stay, Smart Rotation, Direct Call, One-Handed Operation Mode, Multi-Window, Swipe to Capture, etc. even if they don't use the more gimmicky stuff like the panning gestures. And while some of the S apps aren't as useful as others (S Voice and Samsung's hubs are probably the worst offenders), they're no worse than HTC's 'bloat' apps and hubs.

The reactions to the S4 are uncannily like the reactions to the S3 and the Note 2 last year. Then also the initial reaction was disappointment which vanished after the devices were actually released.
The idea that the S4 is like the S3 S is pretty ridiculous IMO. Here is a list of hardware improvements over the S3:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
Which phone out there has improved more than this in a year? And the software improvements are decent too. As usual with Samsung it's hit and miss, but you only need a couple of hits for it to be worthwhile. I think the camera software in particular is impressive.

Will Motorola X on Google I\O hang S4 sales?

Let's make some predictions:
- End April\May is when stores begin to receive first-S4's
- Past 15 days, on 15May is google I\0 where it is expected be presented the Motorola X
In July is expected to begin sells of Motorola X
Assuming that some main specifications expected to be realized on Motorola X:
- Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
- 4000mah Battery
- Display Shapphire Glass 3
- Carbon Materials
My point is, for consumers who are confused whether they should buy the S4\S600 or S4\Exynos, knowing S4's that only be for sale at the same time the expected presentation of Motorola X, culd be in doubt to what extent Motorola X will not give up their tendencies to S4.
Then we still have to rely on consumers who will wait another 1-2 months for the current S4 price calm down a bit.
As I said earlier, Samsung made ​​a serious mistake in launching two S4 variants totally different, and with aggravating circumstance of not be clear whether the question if will have a variant with LTE Exynos or not.
So if the Motorola X is indeed presented at Google I\0 and have specs which are expected might slightly spoil the S4 sales.
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If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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harise100 said:
If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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If it comes with 4000mAh can consider that are equal, will do well for a full day of heavy use ..... Although it is also important to know if future replacement is easy.
SD slot for me is not so important if comes at least with 32GB.
The most important is S800, which is expected spend much less battery.

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If it comes without sd card slot and fixed battery - > NO CONTEST!
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A few months ago I would have said the same then I got my n4 as a spare phone, temporarily my main, and realised that for me it wasn't necessary, that's not to diss your view in anyway just carrying on the conversation.
To the question I hope so, it'll be good for Android and the consumer plus Samsung should pay a price for this release.

Honestly only people who frequent sites and forums like this care about anything you just mentioned. I'd be surprised if 10% of Galaxy S4 buyers even knew whether their phone has a Snapdragon or Exynos processor, and appreciated the difference. The S4 is going to have a monster advertising campaign behind it, and it's going to break sales records, certainly for an Android phone and possibly for smartphones period. If Google wants its X Phone to do well it's going to need a similarly strong marketing effort, and features that can grab the attention of a mainstream consumer (air gestures! eye scrolling!). Simply sticking some upgraded hardware specs in it is not going to do the trick in today's smartphone market.

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The extra battery is necessary because I tend to forget charging my phone. Fortunately there is a full battery in the charger on my desk
I like to have my personal data on a physically separate partition, so I can carelessly do a wipe every now and then.
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It could, but it really depends. Being competitive on the technical front is only the first part. Though there will probably be fairly comparably specced phones out later this year and maybe even as early as summer (maybe).
Marketing the sucker is the second. Samsung has done a good job in making Galaxy the go to name for android phones... even surpassing Droid marketing imo. The amount of Galaxy related ads I see is several times that of what I see from the Nexus line.

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Honestly only people who frequent sites and forums like this care about anything you just mentioned. I'd be surprised if 10% of Galaxy S4 buyers even knew whether their phone has a Snapdragon or Exynos processor, and appreciated the difference. The S4 is going to have a monster advertising campaign behind it, and it's going to break sales records, certainly for an Android phone and possibly for smartphones period. If Google wants its X Phone to do well it's going to need a similarly strong marketing effort, and features that can grab the attention of a mainstream consumer (air gestures! eye scrolling!). Simply sticking some upgraded hardware specs in it is not going to do the trick in today's smartphone market.
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Yes to ordinary consumer will not make any difference, i was referring more to people like us who always want the best.
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The extra battery is necessary because I tend to forget charging my phone. Fortunately there is a full battery in the charger on my desk
I like to have my personal data on a physically separate partition, so I can carelessly do a wipe every now and then.
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Yes, it is precisely the fact that the S4 have removable battery that is on my options.
But we must also agree if Motorola X comes with 4000mAh is a lot of energy, and the fact don't comes with removable battery is no longer so important.
Now if one day we have to change it, if disassembly is like ONE that is really terrible. I would never buy a phone like this, that can't disassemble it to put a new battery. The ONE disappointed me greatly in this respect is all glued....arrhhhhh
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It could, but it really depends. Being competitive on the technical front is only the first part. Though there will probably be fairly comparably specced phones out later this year and maybe even as early as summer (maybe).
Marketing the sucker is the second. Samsung has done a good job in making Galaxy the go to name for android phones... even surpassing Droid marketing imo. The amount of Galaxy related ads I see is several times that of what I see from the Nexus line.
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If S4 had already come with the Exynos with LTE i even not would place this question ...... the problem is that comes two versions and the better one dont have LTE.
So if gona wait, other options like Motorola X will appear soon.

Man even if Google came out with a killer X phone they don't know how to distribute it and market it properly, just look at the N4 ...
On the other hand, since Samsung doesn't give a damn about what Google tells them to do with phones, UI etc, i think Google will probably try to get a killer out at a lower price point.
But they won't be able, nor will they want to, market it as much as samsung will with the S4. I mean samsung got it all right when they launched the S1 when the iphone was crushing competition --> mass mass mass marketing, it just works when the device follows up. two/three years later look where they are...

Lot of speculation, nothing final. And wait till we have the final product. X-phone name doesn't mean it's made for X-men!
And google/motorola are yet to prove that they can handle distribution and sales properly. None of their previous products have sold close to what iPhones/Galaxies sell. A good product isn't enough to be a blockbuster hit in present market.
X-phone/Nexus just doesn't have even even the 10% brand recognition of iPhone and Galaxy S. Marketing and promotion is something which only Apple and Samsung is able to do at this moment. Let's wait and see.

harise100 said:
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If the battery is massive I wouldn't mind and it needs at least 32GB and USB OTG and then that is fine
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Most of these specs are fantasies. Sapphire Glass is insanely expensive and there wont be a massive battery either

The truth is Samsung doesn't put us THE S4 on the table. What Sam brought was a S4 Poll and many doubts about LTE Exynos. Some countries have one anothers other, and some both.
These threads were not supposed to exist after S4 public presentation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2210468
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2211855&page=2
As for X users informed as we just have to wait 15 days after we actually can buy one S4 to know what is.
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The leaked /rumored specs are impressive but will it have smart stay, smart scroll, air gesture, ir, etc etc etc? No... Never
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Based on a quick google search the motorla x doesn't seem to be a super phone anymore and that those super hardware specs are being saved for the next nexus...
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bala_gamer said:
The leaked /rumored specs are impressive but will it have smart stay, smart scroll, air gesture, ir, etc etc etc? No... Never
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I hope you are so wrong! :banghead:
I want to have "Multi windows" and a pen for my Nexus 7 or it's successors.
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pack21 said:
My point is, for consumers who are confused whether they should buy the S4\S600 or S4\Exynos, knowing S4's that only be for sale at the same time the expected presentation of Motorola X, culd be in doubt to what extent Motorola X will not give up their tendencies to S4.
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I guess it all comes down to what consumers want. Nexus/AOSP phones have appealed more to enthusiasts than the mainstream consumer (the GN only sold 750K units when sold alongside the SGS2/3) when offered at the same price. So with Samsung going even further over the top with s/w on the SGS4 it'll be interesting to see how they react to a "pure Google" Motorola phone. Google wants consumers to think "pure" is better but based on how well phones with overlays sell in comparison you have to wonder what consumer's think. If Motorola was smart they'd offer Phone X as a dual-boot in to either AOSP or an overlay that's got features like Samsung and LG are both pushing. That would at least hedge their bets. My prediction is if the Phone X is AOSP it's not going to dent the SGS4 because Samsung's trained people that s/w features are important (even if they're not).

AW: Will Motorola X on Google I\O hang S4 sales?
I really like AOSP.
You can have the best Android device. Because the S3 and coming S4 ROMs will never be 100% bug free.
On my Nexus 7 I am not aware of any bug in Android. The ROM developers fixed what google forgot.
The hardware sucks for a phone. :banghead:
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harise100 said:
On my Nexus 7 I am not aware of any bug in Android. The ROM developers fixed what google forgot.
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Nothing is perfect. I will say that nothing is even close to perfect.

It will be business as usual for the average joe as people savage for the S4.
But sales will halt for Enthusiasts like us as we await Google I/O.
There's no doubt KLP will be released.
However, I have a feeling that there will definitely be a new high-end phone here
and Google keeping the Nexus 4 as a low cost alternative.

So what do you guys think about this?

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.

barondebxl said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/13...quality-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-a-new-design/
In all honesty, I think this is why competition is great, because it makes OEM step their game up where they have "weaknesses". It'll be interesting to see how Samsung respond in the future. I like their build quality and design, never bothered me but this could be a good thing.
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I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:

shox22 said:
I hope they stay with plastic. Most Samsung users love it because "its the best material for smartphones"... what should they buy if samsung starts building phones with aluminum or other metals?
Oh, suddenly aluminum would be the best :silly:
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Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )

i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen

I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.

yeah, "worried" is definitely inaccurate, they are far from worried but let's all keep it real here and not be too one sided. The One has an incredible design and great choice of material ( I won't give it credit for build quality cause they always have QC issues), apparently most people like that. So imagine if Samsung can ( and they certainly can) make the next flagship with a whole new design, choose a strong kind of material, I think it'll be game over for everyone else. We here all like the plastic but many don't, so Samsung will make everyone happy by changing things a little.

Strategist said:
I hope Samsung doesn't give up on the replaceable battery and microSD slot. The fact is that most people put their expensive phones inside covers so the original design doesn't matter much. It's the kind of thing reviewers make a lot of noise about but most customers don't really care that much.
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I absolutely agree on the replaceable battery and SD card, this is something they cannot get rid of. But they can pull off a different design and keep those two in place without a problem.

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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"Galaxy Mega." Someone listened to the Engadget Mobile podcast.
I have plumped for the HTC One, coming from the Galaxy S2 due to 2 year contracts, and never cared for what others call "premium" builds.
Having owned the HTC One for a few days now I have to say that having a phone made from more "expensive feeling" materials is by no means a bad thing.
It can only be a good thing if Samsung start putting a bit more effort into handset design. We all know that Samsung usually have the better specs. It really can't hurt to back this up with better design.
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barondebxl said:
Yeah they can stay with plastic no problem, just make it more solid like the lumia or One X and change the design maybe? ( but definitely keep the home button and both capacitive buttons )
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Yes, they should definitely change the design. Last year most people were like: "look at that ugly sgs3"... but after a while, the people get used to it. But thtat doesnt mean samsung designs are nice. They are not in my eyes.
The One X was a really cute smartphone made of polycarbonat. It still feels 10000 times better then the glossy plastic s3 (and probably s4). If they use that kind of plastic, it would be a big step forward in look and feel. But i doubt they will do. It will be for sure more expensiv.

What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....

yahyoh said:
i think this joke made by Sammobile ( specially their insider :laugh::laugh: )
LOOOL Samsung worried
and i don't want aluminum phone , i think Samsung just need to stop using hyper glaze on the back cover
i really like the feel of back cover of my GS2 and Gnex :good:
IMO N3 will look like Galaxy Mega ( bigger GS4) with S-pen + Note features with 6 inch screen
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Agreed with the Hyperglaze. My S2's back-plate/battery cover was matte, and it was just fine, looked good too.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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You're absolutely right, and I actually said it a few posts above ^^. HTC has great designs and choice of material is arguably very good ( has its own pros and cons) but I can't give them credit for their build quality cause they always have QC issues.

Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality? People get the two confused, Samsung have the best build quality these days. People always say HTC One has the best build quality......... like no I've exchanged it 3 times, all have sucked and I decided to get a GS4 instead and luckily the Network allowed me to do so. I just hope my choice pays off....
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100% certified, correct. To quote my own signature, "don't mistake build materials for build quality". From multiple accounts, the HTC One build quality is poor.
I will bet that the Galaxy S4 build quality will exceed the HTC One's build quality. Argue materials all you would like, but it's time for reviewers, forum members, and the general public to learn the English language. Materials, by definition, is not quality.

I dunno, I like the build just fine but maybe they could use matte polycarbonate like Lumia or HOX. I prefer those over the hyperglaze.
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Terrorantula said:
What does design have to do with build quality?
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What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Right on, brother. Sad that all the tech sites are quoting this, though. Tech blogs love to put in zero effort to their sources.
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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cfn87 said:
Where is the "trust, but verify" that the profession should uphold?
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It's been replaced by this.
And for our international members, this.

I perfer lighter case or design no matter plastic or metal.

BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
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This was enough said, for me:
The simple Nature UX interface by Samsung is easy to use and, thanks to the new smart functions, Samsung’s new interface makes the Galaxy S4 even more smarter.
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BarryH_GEG said:
What does SamMobile have to do with fact? The further out something is, the more likely they are to be fishing for click throughs.
Enough said...
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
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One thing is for sure though, Samsung is NOT worried. But they may consider changing their design for next year.

Do You Feel Cheated?

Hi All,
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera. Personally i am ok with that trade off as i get water proof features and a much better build quality. The pixel density is much more as well.
Rumoured Specs of Active from GSMARENA:
The specs are expected to be the same and the live pictures below confirm it - the device is running on a quad-core 1.9GHz processor with Adreno 320 GPU, which most definitely means a Snapdragon 600 chipset. The screen supposedly has the same size and resolution as the original Galaxy S4 - a 5.0-inch 1080p unit, though it's unclear if it's a Super AMOLED one or not. Strangely enough, the reported pixel density of the phone is 480ppi, so the display might actually be smaller.
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I personally think this is actually the real Flagship from Samsung for this year and not S4, what are your thoughts, do you think you have been cheated by Samsung is you are an S4 owner, or you think it is a part of the market strategy and a must for samsung to consolidate it's numero uno position.

Its 480 dpi not ppi.
So its exactly same actually.

I feel cheated would have preferred a waterproof one as it's always rainy in the UK
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Why should it be DPI? DPI is no measurement for displays ...
Antutu is just showing false information.
Ontopic: Why would anyone feel cheated? It's the exact same phone, plus better durability and minus the 13 MP camera.
And even if it was better, do you sleep worse at night, when there is some faster phone out there? :laugh:

No nothing like that, i still remember people going all out on HTC when HTC one x+ was release saying that how they lost out on a flagship device, when they expected the flagship device the same way for one year. In this case S4 probably would maintain being a flagship for less then 3 months, so a lot of people might feel sad.
For me personally i think it is the right step, maybe this is what they wanted to launch as S4 all along, but probably were not able to complete the tests on time to release it in April.

amankapoor4 said:
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera.
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What makes it a "much better phone?" It's a "different" phone and I'm willing to bet it'll be more expensive than the SGS4. If it's like other waterproof phones all the ports will have covers on them which is a pain in the ass. So it'll appeal to some people (not everyone wants a red phone) and not to others. But to those that want its features and bought a SGS4 because they didn't know the "Active" was coming I can see them feeling "cheated." I'd also question whether the standard SGS4 accessories will work with the Active which could be a downside for some people.

S4 is the main flagship of Samsung and it will stay that way until S5 comes out.
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1) The screen will not be that bright than normal S4 and probably there will be no air view. Also, dropping will still not be a survival situation for it
2) the battery can't be removed and there is no evidence of sdcard slot yet
3) the top and bottom rubber will scratch and break in time and those 3 buttons are crap, they should use buttons like Back and menu on the original S4
However, that red is nice, but making the original S4 more solid and S4 Active like it's easy with a Spigen Slim Armor. There are ways to make the phone waterproof too.
A great feature is that if you want to make a tea or warm the bath water, you can play a 3D game and then submerge the phone in that water. It will warm the water (S-thermo?)
also, don't forget how many time you guys needed to take the battery out when flashed or just because the phone frozen. I'm curious how you guys will do it now lol
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I don't feel cheated. I probably would have waited and bought the Galaxy S4 Active, except that I was still using an original Droid X. So it really was well past time to upgrade. I guess the fact that it lasted this long without any such protection (or even a case) means I really shouldn't worry so much about dust or moisture.
Hopefully by the time I need my next phone, the "active" version will be waterproof to 5m or more. Now that would be something. I also don't care about dust; but I'd love to see a phone that can withstand sand without a screen protector.

Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Where you guys see S4 Pro? I see everywhere S600 :what:
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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed

amankapoor4 said:
Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed
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Yeah, I'm sick of speculations too. However, most of phones which are water and dust resistant doesn't have bright screen as the S4. You can see the photos, the brightness is minimum I think, but the screen is too reflective because probably is thicker. But of course, let's just wait.

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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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I'll only be mad if it has more storage