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The GS4 is really the GS3S

Samsung takes a leaf out of Apple's book & recycles the design of its last flagship device.
Admit it's just a GS3 with a few extra bells & whistles, upgrade the innards check, upgrade the camera check & alter the screen a bit. Bang you have yourself a new flagship, market the hell out of it & watch the sales roll in.
At least HTC made a big change between the One & the One X, especially in design and innovated in the camera rather than just banging more megapixels on it.
That said it still looks a very strong device & I might get one.

Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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We haven't even officially seen the device yet...all those images/videos could be fake
Either way still destroys about 99% of the phones on the market...
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Will find out soon.

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Let's go ahead and admit it this is a troll post
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No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996

Super Chimp said:
No it's not its a comment on Samsung doing exactly the same as people have criticised Apple for doing in the past.
Here is an article from earlier in the week commenting on the design.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...s-lazy-it-could-cripple-the-galaxy-s4-1136996
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OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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OK so every single one of there phones has the same design, a locked os, no battery cover, and sue people 24/7 where did you get this information they were doing all of this?
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What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.

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What the heck does if it have a battery cover have to do with anything. This is commenting on Samsung recycling the same design again not on whether it has a battery cover or not. The OS is again irrelevant to the principle of reusing the design as for legal action of course they have carried out legal action as have many manufacturers.
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You would be a perfect iPhone fanboy
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Snapdragon S4 for the US market :\
I'm guessing that means the LTE version and the 3G version is using the Octa core CPU....
Just kills the phone for me right there.

Its funny cause the phone did turn out to be a gs3s
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when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2

haldi15 said:
when apple adds a S after their phones like the iphone 4s it doesnt change anything it only adds a new camera and a new processor
samsung changed everything on the phone believe it or not the s3 was a ugly pos the s4 is a beautiful mini note 2
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Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.

crawlgsx said:
Seriously?
The S4 looks JUST like the S3... which ALSO looks just like a mini Note 2. (I owned both).
I don't think any of them are ugly, but I don't find them sexy either. That is all just personal preference, but to say the S3 is ugly, and the Note 2 and S4 are beautiful is just.. well, silly. Your analysis is ... flawed... to say the least.
The S4 definitely is a bump up from the S3 spec wise, no question, but in the looks department it is mid size between the S3 and Note II, nothing more, nothing less. Only very minor aesthetic change.
See Sig - I have owned most of their recent phones. I'm not speculating, I had the Note, Note II, and S3 as well as others.
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the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2

haldi15 said:
the s3 has a very ugly shape and the gap between the screen and the home button is a big waste of space which ruins the design of it while the s4 is designed a lot like the note 2
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You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.

ErebusRaze said:
You're nit picking. As a whole the S IV looks exactly like the S III and though the internals are slightly buffed, externally (which is what 95% of the public cares about) it's the same. Apple gets away with it because their chassis is admittedly beautiful, but Samsung is sticking to this flimsy, cheap plastic design which is not a head turner. They dropped the ball with this one and I think HTC will gain ground as they introduced a beautiful phone with the HTC One.
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Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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bbrad said:
Your the one nit picking about the plastic
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Constructive rebuttal. The phone is flimsy, and the quality of material used is sub par. If you're used to such things then it's fine. I've had all of the Galaxy S phones and now own the S3. As an owner it's disheartening to own a phone with such lackluster material in comparison to far more premium build phones that are equally as powerful and cost the same amount. Why don't I just switch? I probably won't and I'll wait for the S V as it'll be a worth while jump in speed and efficiency.

I just have to agree, in my own opinion, the S4 didn't make HUGE design changes. On that, I think most agree. I'd still love to have it. Though, Not as much as I would like to have the HTC One.
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I was a little disappointed...but there running out of room to improve on...over all I'm satisfied...if you already have an s3 then there isn't much reason to upgrade to it...but if your just ending your two year then its the perfect phone...
The one looks nice...but its missing the ad card...that is a necessity for me and many others...I could care less about removable battery, I just want my sd slot...I love music too much, streaming lowers the quality and 32gb on board just isn't enough when each song is 10-20mbs...
Anyways...ill admit, I am a Samsung fanboy....I hate HTC - they are a pain to get setup for Roma compared to Samsung devices...unlocking bootloader, s-off...just a pain. I gave HTC a try and I don't think ill ever give them another...
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Plastic IS NOT A SUB-PAR MATERIAL. There are many areas other than cost that Samsung's "plastic" is superior to aluminum in a mobile device application. Hell, car manufacturers figured that out a long time ago.
As long as the screen is more durable than on the S3, I doubt the build is "cheap" except to the uneducated.
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Disappointed in S4

I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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LoL
you're obviously very young and don't know (yet) how the (human) world works...
it's all about gaining money, power, prestige, ...
Core Facts vs S3
1. It's thinner, smaller and thus lighter.
2. Yet it has a bigger/better screen, is much stronger and way faster.
3. It has a bigger/better battery, camera,...
1 => speaks for itself
2 => Full HD Super AMOLED (new diamiond Matrix), Polycarbonate and Gorilla glass 3, Qualcomm 600/Exynos 5 Octa, LPDDR3 RAM,...)
3 => speaks for itself
Don't be fooled by what you hear and see on the internet. Listen inside yourself and get enlightened :laugh:
Do you really believe you need this or any other device? LoL, enjoy life mate
-Sam-
Edit: yes, it's a S3+

Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?

matt.wolfley said:
Consider that Samsung along with every other company that becomes successful in market share and sales will one day slow up on progression. Computers in general have done that and it's the "touch screen" age that has brought an innovation to laptops and desktops. That being said, dual core to quad core is a big move, 8MP to 13MP also very big. HD Screen with 441 PPI?? Not your run of the mill screen. Saying that changes were expected and now that we know is blah is kinda ignorant honestly. There are a LOT of people like myself who want a quad core samsung phone without the size and weight of the Galaxy Note 2. Despite the small margin of size difference, it's enough for those that want true one handed operation. The reasons could go on and on, but I laugh at people saying "Really? This is it? Not very innovative...In a way, a very very small way, it makes me feel sorry for Apple all these years for the exact same reasons. I'll never budge on them sticking to the same OS for 4 years being stupid, but the other things that "aren't innovative enough to appreciate" makes me wonder honestly what people really expect out of phones? Make Smoothies for you? Cook for you? Do your laundry for you? Silly really, but what are we really saying here?
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Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?

I don't know why so many people are dissatisfied. I thinks it's a nice phone. Why is everyone complaining about Samsung not changing the design very much? There is nothing wrong with it. If it isn't broke then don't fix it. Samsung found a solid phone design and rolled with it. I'm just glad they didn't remove the sd card slot, added some nice features (even if some call them gimmicky). I probably won't buy it though, since my upgrade isn't for a year. I'll be interested to see what the gs5 is like next year.

Disappointed as well I wanted at least a new look.. And I heard the SGS3 is getting most of the new features of the 4 through updates anyways.
So just a little bummed about this phone

As someone that's planning on upgrading a gs2 (wife) and move away from windows phone (me) I found the style of the gs4 to be something that both my wife and I like. Some of the features built into the phone, while seemingly gimmicky such as the health/exercise tracking, appeal to me.
So compared to the last couple of phones my family has used, it will be a huge improvement. The last android phone I used was an og droid.

People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness

MohJee said:
Maybe the problem isn't with the phone itself but with your unrealistic expectations. Setting aside the new software features, s4 has better camera, better design with less bezel (though it looks very similar), bigger battery, screen resolution, screen size, processor, and newer android version than its 1year old predecessor. That's an improvement in every department basically. Don't know what you were expecting really?
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I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.

I say let the free market speak what it thinks of the new S4.
See my post on this pricing thread to see what Ebay prices are, already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39194227&postcount=6
Summary, all for GT-I9500, 16 or 64 GB, which is rumored selling in China already: Buy it now from US, $844 w/ free shipping. From UK another vendor at $752.
First lot of 2 GT-I9500 for US $1375, 2nd lot of 2 for $1225. Biy 20 and the 64 GB is $500 each.
I was expecting first units being sold closer to $1k. Between these prices, and the disappointment some posters have expressed, I think the GS4 may have under-whelmed. It may be getting looked at as an incremental GS3 update, especially since many software features will appear on the GS3.
I think the GS4 seems fine so far, but I'd really like to know the audio chip, and the prospects for FM radio on all variants (see sig).
But the free market probably knows more than I, or most of us do, LOL. Will be interesting to see how it plays out; (grabs popcorn...)

boe said:
I want ONE upgrade in the S4 vs. the S3 above all others in the S4 - a radio with reception that works well on Verizon's network. The S3 sucks as a phone but is a wonderful PDA otherwise. It's an insult to phones to call it a smartphone since the phone blows big moose. At least Apple eventually admitted there was a problem with reception on the iphone. I realize the reception issue may be local to Verizon as the Sasmung Galaxy Nexus also sucked on Verizon's network even though the HTC DNA and RAZR work great.
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As long as Samsung continues to use the same radio set up that it has used on the charge, the nexus, and the S3, reception is going to continue to be weak on Verizon's network.

The S4 is a huge upgrade from the S3; on the inside. But for me I don't care one bit that the phone looks the same because I've used cases on all my phone since the Droid OG days. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was the last phone I went caseless and it really started to look bad after white glove use. After that every phone I bought got a medium to heavy duty case.
I actually would have been upset at Samsung if they used a metal design and in the process deleted the removable battery. You can't make everyone happy unless you release 2 models at the same time.

crashck said:
I read through many of these threads and I was shocked to discover that most people are impressed with this new iteration of the galaxy line. Im not a hater of Samsung I love my s3 but this seems to be a minor upgrade. The new features like pictures with sound and the eye tracking seem gimmicky. Yes Ik there are more upgrades than the gimmicks but most were very expected things like the larger screen, battery, and upgraded camera. I feel this would serve better as a s3+ or something of that nature. Am I in the minority thinking this way?
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People were saying the exact same thing when the S3 came out. "It's ugly", "it's iterative", "it's gimmicky". But it got rave reviews. Why? Because it was the best smartphone you could buy at the time, and the S4 will fill the same role this time around. If you look at the comments (and even articles) on the S4 on tech sites, you'll see people foaming at the mouth, seemingly furious that Samsung dared release this product. It doesn't help that random internet users and articles alike are spreading misinformation (about the size of the device, about the processors used in both the international and U.S. versions, about how Samsung apparently forced the S3 on everyone through marketing, etc.).
Here's my take on the S4 and why I think it is the best phone available and will sell even more than the S3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39186031&postcount=13

I really don't know what people are expecting from the S4... If Samsung came up with a different design but lower specs, people would say it's not worth it to upgrade because the hardware is not good enough. And now they will not upgrade because of the shape. I personally see fitting a 5" screen on the device size is revolutionary already.
Moreover, what you get with Samsung, you don't get with HTC and Sony. These motion features, gestures, built-in apps, dual camera, and using the phone with gloves are what make the S4 the S4.
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.

SamerBerjawi said:
The HTC One is too thick (and probably heavy) for a smartphone, while the screen of the Xperia Z is not the best on market. Personally, I think the S4, especially the Exynos 5 version can never be made by a different comany.
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+ the S4 has both removable battery and micro sd-card slot...
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I'm hugely disappointing in it, especially in the cheap look and no doubt cheap feel it will have. Where as you look at the HTC One Sony XZ and no doubt any forth coming Motorola phones to see the massive improvement in build quality and considerably better premium feel to it.
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.

DramatikBeats said:
People are *itching left and right about the hardware being nothing and software being crap. So what exactly did you expect the phone to come with?
Octo core CPU and people moan, Snapdragon S600 CPU and people moan. Camera gets bumped up by 5mp to 13mp and people moan. Ships with the latest OS (4.2.2) and people moan. 2gb of ram and people moan. Diamond matrix (better than pentile matrix) and people moan. Larger screen and people moan. Higher resolution and people moan. Smaller body with better internals and people moan. Still has removable battery and people moan. Still has micro sd card slot and people moan. Updated "gimmick" features and people moan. Users have the choice of not using said "gimmick" features......and of course these people are still moaning. Foolishness
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sgs4 will ship with 4.2.1 and a month later samsung will put out an update to 4.2.2
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/08/galaxy-s-iv-to-have-floating-touch-and-green-pholed-material-amoled-display/
http://thequantummechanics.wordpress.com/tag/samsung-galaxy-s4/

kopkiwi said:
I have the S3, love it, but the one downside is just how rubbish it feels in the hand. I don't want a light phone, I want a decently heavy phone that feels like the $1k I drop to buy it. The features they've included only further bloat the already gimmicky software.
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100% subjective. I don't want a thicker, heavier device that I will feel in my pocket and will hit the ground harder when I drop it—and get even bulkier and heavier with a case. Thinner and lighter has been the trend for a while and people seem to like it. I also don't see how you can see all of Samsung's features as bloat and gimmicks when not only does Sense weigh down the interface more than TouchWiz, but you can't even turn off some of the added 'features' like you can with TouchWiz. Everyone I know with an S3 or Note 2 enjoys leaving on and using features like Smart Stay, Smart Rotation, Direct Call, One-Handed Operation Mode, Multi-Window, Swipe to Capture, etc. even if they don't use the more gimmicky stuff like the panning gestures. And while some of the S apps aren't as useful as others (S Voice and Samsung's hubs are probably the worst offenders), they're no worse than HTC's 'bloat' apps and hubs.

The reactions to the S4 are uncannily like the reactions to the S3 and the Note 2 last year. Then also the initial reaction was disappointment which vanished after the devices were actually released.
The idea that the S4 is like the S3 S is pretty ridiculous IMO. Here is a list of hardware improvements over the S3:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
Which phone out there has improved more than this in a year? And the software improvements are decent too. As usual with Samsung it's hit and miss, but you only need a couple of hits for it to be worthwhile. I think the camera software in particular is impressive.

The Galaxy SIV Misconceptions Thread

1) The Samsing Galaxy SIV is all plastic - Wrong! It's Corning Gorilla Glass 3 on the front which is 3 times more resistant than the GG2, plus poly-carbonate plastic (like the Lumia 920) on the side and removable back. In all likeliness it'll take various hits better than slim brushed metal or regular glass with older screen protective technology
2) The Samsung Galaxy SIV design is the same - Wrong! The subtle differences are noticeable in hand according to those touching. It's thinner, lighter, slightly less rounded and at 79%, it's the most screen-dominant of any phone on the market
3) Same old AMOLED - Wrong! While screen tech is not labeled as new (not sure if it's the PHOLED variant), but it has a new hexagonal sub-pixel arrangement, more brightness according to testers and less blueish tinting
4) No real innovations, just overblown S3 functions - Think again. Floating Touch with AirView functionality, input through gloves, new gesture controls and eye-tracking features, barometer, thermometer, health equipment compatibility, IR sensor and remote control, much larger camera sensor and lens with new function, big jump in HW performance and battery, SW designed for fresher OS, more NFC functions (VISA payment), wireless charging
5) Octa-core is a marketing gimmick - read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
6) 13MP is a marketing gimmick, it doesn't have more details - You sure? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39204732&postcount=22
7) Bigger screen, more uncomfortable use - Wrong! The Galasy SIV is actually smaller than it's predecessor and it's smaller and lighter overall than the HTC One, Droid DNA, XPeria Z and Oppo Find 5 wile featuring the largest battery at 2600mAh
Any more misconception to get rid of?

The body of the S4 is all plastic. There is no brushed metal its plastic made to look like metal.

Octa core is a marketing gimmick, I know what you mean but it would confuse a normal Joe.
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ste1164 said:
The body of the S4 is all plastic. There is no brushed metal its plastic made to look like metal.
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The front is covered in glass, some reports claim the side is metal. It that's proven wrong I'll edit the post.
http://samsunggalaxy-s4.info/is-this-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-yes-or-no_626.html
In any case, we see in the list technical specifications of this unit many rumors again confirmed: a Exynos 5410 processor (aka Exynos 5 Octa), a PowerVR graphics processor, the 13 megapixel camera, and a full HD 1080p display. It also seems to be a metal edge is present on the body – in line with earlier rumors so.
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BoneXDA said:
The front is covered in glass, some reports claim the side is metal. It that's proven wrong I'll edit the post.
http://samsunggalaxy-s4.info/is-this-the-samsung-galaxy-s4-yes-or-no_626.html
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Yes I'm aware the screen is glass. But the sides have said to be plastic by android sites

You made a great point there bro

Sides plastic on all review sites and according to people who have been at the event.. but looks more shiny and better than the s3
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Okay, I 'corrected' it.

Guys its polycarbonate(which is used for bullet proof glass and to make lenses for glasses) NOT the s3 plastic
Forget whatever site says.... in the live unveiling the presenter/evaluator said it was polycarbonate

Ba7rani123 said:
Guys its polycarbonate(which is used for bullet proof glass and to make lenses for glasses) NOT the s3 plastic
Forget whatever site says.... in the live unveiling the presenter/evaluator said it was polycarbonate
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We know.. even s3 is polycarbonate mate... and after watching some s4 vids, you can reallly see the shiny metal like plastic from the side.. it really looks different and looks like metal.. thats one thing I hated in the s3... the side bezel looked crap and easily got scratchesm. Glad samsung didnt protrude it and they made it look better
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Heres a TIP for OP , 1st whenever you POST something and you claim you're right you need to post the LINK with SOLID proof which you DON"T HAVE anywhere seen on your thread.
Here's for you nice INFO about materials and samsung decision about s4 , you should STICK this on 1st page just so you don't give false informations.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/15/samsung-dumped-better-galaxy-s-4-prototypes-for-cheaper-version/
The insiders of SamMobile directly started mailing to us after the announcement of Samsung. They are unhappy because Samsung created that much prototypes so they got confused. First of all he wants to say sorry for the misinformation but this is not everything! Our insider reported Samsung chose for the cheapest Galaxy S 4 prototype.
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Samsung dropped the version of plastic with the corners of metal / aluminium and PHOLED display with RGB structure!
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There was also a full metal version but this version couldn’t make trough the first round. Which directly hints to that Samsung completly ISN’T ready to build full metal devices. Which is sad for a lot of people. According to our insider the Galaxy S 4 is easy to build like the way Samsung chose to do so. The premium feeling is totally gone because of the missing metal / aluminium materials.
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And for your information the screen quality is STILL the same as it was on S3 which is poor PENTILE. Which is even worse then Note 2 screen who has less pixels but still uses newer TECH with RGB.
The reason for that is because it's CHEAPER to use PENTILE and FASTER to reproduce.

^^^
Get all this crap out of this thread we can read what is given in the link.
Shan89 said:
Heres a TIP for OP , 1st whenever you POST something and you claim you're right you need to post the LINK with SOLID proof which you DON"T HAVE anywhere seen on your thread.
Here's for you nice INFO about materials and samsung decision about s4 , you should STICK this on 1st page just so you don't give false informations.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/15/samsung-dumped-better-galaxy-s-4-prototypes-for-cheaper-version/
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I don't know how much I can trust that.
A review showed that sub pixel layout is hexagonal , so can't trust that.
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i9100g user said:
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Get all this crap out of this thread we can read what is given in the link.
I don't know how much I can trust that.
A review showed that sub pixel layout is hexagonal , so can't trust that.
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Well i guess we'll find out about pixels but as far as build quality goes you don't need site to tell you it's plastic, your eyes will do that for you , that is if you trust your eyes more then rumors :good:

Shan89 said:
Well i guess we'll find out about pixels but as far as build quality goes you don't need site to tell you it's plastic, your eyes will do that for you , that is if you trust your eyes more then rumors :good:
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Plastic or polycarbonate whatever.
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Shan89 said:
Well i guess we'll find out about pixels but as far as build quality goes you don't need site to tell you it's plastic, your eyes will do that for you , that is if you trust your eyes more then rumors :good:
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Troll much..? your one x is plastic.. it uses the same polycarbonate.. was it why htc failed miserably last year??
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Shan89 said:
Well i guess we'll find out about pixels but as far as build quality goes you don't need site to tell you it's plastic, your eyes will do that for you , that is if you trust your eyes more then rumors :good:
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Does it really matter whether its "better shock absorbing" plastic or heavier metal? "Feel?" People will keep the device less than 2 years and move on. Its not jewelry. Its a communication and computing device. You want to "wear it" and enjoy "form and feel," buy Apple products. You want function stick with a plastic Samsung device

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Troll much..? your one x is plastic.. it uses the same polycarbonate.. was it why htc failed miserably last year??
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Nah , it failed because it doesn't have the money to afford the marketing like samsung does, anyway FYI htc one x , 8x , 8s, dna , j , etc etc to make it shorter , all htc devices from 2012 used the highest poly carbonate material that was avilable. Anyway i'll just leave this thread, looks like i've upseted fanboys , Cheers and good luck with the new SIII s

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Troll much..? your one x is plastic.. it uses the same polycarbonate.. was it why htc failed miserably last year??
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But you know don't feed the troll
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Shan89 said:
Nah , it failed because it doesn't have the money to afford the marketing like samsung does, anyway FYI htc one x , 8x , 8s, dna , j , etc etc to make it shorter , all htc devices from 2012 used the highest poly carbonate material that was avilable. Anyway i'll just leave this thread, looks like i've upseted fanboys , Cheers and good luck with the new SIII s
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The One X failed because it had worse battery, worse camera, worse performance, worse versatility, and a worse interface compared to the S3. The HTC One & S4 are much closer than the One X and S3 ever were. Remains to be seen how the S4 does against the HTC One, because we at least know for sure the latter wins in low-light performance and looks.

Shan89 said:
Nah , it failed because it doesn't have the money to afford the marketing like samsung does, anyway FYI htc one x , 8x , 8s, dna , j , etc etc to make it shorter , all htc devices from 2012 used the highest poly carbonate material that was avilable. Anyway i'll just leave this thread, looks like i've upseted fanboys , Cheers and good luck with the new SIII s
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Lol..trust me.. u better fly from here.. the htc one is gonna fail too.. and its gonna be obsolete just like nokia .. u would be one of the few users left..
Go moan about samsungs marketting.. samsungs competing against iphones..not against a poorly sold htc.. you guys should first try to overtake sony and huwaei and other chinese companies first..
P.S - I dont hate htcs but I have seen this guys lameness.. and htc has done a considerably good job this time..unlike the htc one ,they were a fail since the sensation line.. and its not because of marketting..because they were poor phones..
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[Discussion] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?

Is it just me, or is the Galaxy S IV the phone that everyone was expecting right before the Galaxy S III was announced one year ago?
When I saw the specs and first photos of the S IV my first thought was "Wow!! It's the phone I wished for one year ago but Samsung gave me the damn S III."
Don't get me wrong, the SIII was good, not better than the One X if you take raw speed out of the equation, but a great device overall, a best seller and the phone everyone is trying to sell now to either get a Note 2, an Iphone 5, a S IV or the HTC One. But if the SIII was the S4 (again not speaking about raw speed or the octa core cpu) most of them wouldn't bother.
It's like Samsung IS trying to screw us out of our money just as they did with the SIII, they said a Pentile Matrix is more resilient to time but they went with RGB on the Note 2. They knew everyone was gonna buy it so they said "****'em, they'll eat it up anyway". Very Apple-like technique if you don't mind me saying so.
Oh, and I'm really not trolling or trying to be trolled at, I honestly want to know what people and not fanboys have to say and think about it, and when I say fanboys I mean all of them, no matter if it's Samsung, HTC, Apple (I don't think there's any other kind of brand-fanboy in the mobile world out there)

75 views and not even one comment???
Is my english that bad that I'm not making sense?
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple

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n1ggyn1ce said:
well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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tru dat
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No. I am liking what I see. I already enjoy my GS3. And I am almost certainly going to enjoy the Galaxy S4.
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The camera, screen, battery tech and big.LITTLE CPU weren't possible back then, at least not enough to meet demand or at any reasonable cost to consumers. Android 4.2.2 also wasn't released yet. I'm not really sure what you mean, since the S3 was already better than the One X in many ways. The only thing I could see the S3 launching with were the different design and the floating touch tech, but at least the remaining apps and software features will come to the S3 as well.

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well technically it is the Samsung S3S except they put a 4 in order not to be sued by Apple
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Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.

Arsaw said:
This is normal. Manufacturers always offer some incremental specs & features. If they offered S4's spec last year, what do you want them to offer this year? 16cores processor, 16mp camera, 3500mAh battery and 500ppi screen? You will still keep asking the same question : why they can't offer this last year?
It happens to all kind of gadgets. You as the consumer should decide to buy or not to buy. Nobody force you to buy if you don't like what they offered.
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this is not what I asked, I said that it's the device everyone thought that was coming last year, and I did specify that I am NOT talking about the CPU or raw power of the device, I was talking about features and innovation, and even the actuall ppi of the screen since the matrix is pentile on the s3 and with 65% of really visible pixels the display no matter how good is still not the flagship display you'd expect.

howtomen said:
Are you high? Everytime i see this i cringe... The 4 to 4s or 3g to 3gs had same screen same design... Exactly the same.... This has nee camera cpu thats a lot better way better screen with new matrix... Improved speaker ui and better design... This isnt as incremental as u think..
The battery is also loads better lol
trolol and awayyy!! Expect typos this is my phone.
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oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.

I was expecting both posts to merge
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The pentile phobia is ridiculous at 440ppi. The human eye can't see it. Are you walking around with your microscope?
I also cringe when I read misleading post like "the S4 is like the S3". This comes from HTC CEO who said after the S4 launch "It's more of the same". This was clearly said in an intent to discredit Samsung and was said early after HTC declare war on Samsung.
The fact that Samsung has slowly but steadily climbed the top rung and has developed a strong fan following is not lost out on other phone makers. Almost every other phone maker is now looking at Samsung as a threat and their actions are spurred by Samsung releases
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SOURCE->http://www.indiatimes.com/technology/enterprise/phone-makers-declare-war-against-samsung-66939.html
It's too bad that people react like this. There is place for all kinds of phones(even iphone, my 80 years old mom needs a non-customizable phone).
You can try to degrade it as much as youwant. The FACTS remains that the S4 is differrent in every single aspect thus making it a new generation.
HTC fans should be happy that the S4 is not what the S3 should have been. Can you imagine much far behind the competition would be?
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Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
Well the imaginary phone that u sre talking about is certainly not the s3 but the original note. Because next year when note 2 came nobody felt the need of changing their note and we got all the functionality of a note 2.
S4 really has a tough competition. So going leaps away is what tuey needed to do. They didnt put their octa out yet. They will tweak it to outrun the google X phone. Then maybe release it with KLP. so one flagship will compete twice like HOX.
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crossmission said:
oh and I'm not saying that either device is bad or even close, I'm saying that after the i9000 moved to the i9100 it was a huge step forward and a true game-changer, that is not the case so much with the i9100 to i9300 or the i9300 to i9500.
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Hahahaha. I love this reply. SO true! :angel:

Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.

Re: [Q] Is the S4 what the S3 should have been?
No.
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Strategist said:
Considering that the GS4 blows everything else out of the water in terms of hardware, it's highly unrealistic to expect Samsung to have produced it a year back.
Seriously let's stop with all this GS3 S crap which is the product of silly tech journalists who apparently can't see beyond the surface. Undeneath the hood the GS4 is a big upgrade over the GS3 which itself was a pretty big upgrade over the GS2.
I have posted this list of improvements elsehwere but let me post it again:
Octacore processor
Better GPU
1080P screen
2GB RAM
2600 mAh battery
Gorilla Glass 3
13 MP camera
infra red
thermometer sensor
humidity sensor
How is this not an impressive upgrade? And I didn't even mention the 1080 60FPS video capability. And all this in a smaller, lighter device than the GS3.
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All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+

Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.

Kremata said:
All these S4=S3+ claimers always repeat the same thing like a bunch of blind sheeps but never bring any reasoning to their statements.
Here is a logical statement
If S4 = S3+ then HTC One = HTC One X+
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You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.

sohebq said:
Lol, you are trying to bring future in present which is not possible. Samsung has made gradual improvements in both software and hardware department which is quite good. I love the work done by their R&D department. Even with these specs, these are miles ahead of competitors and it seems like there is no end to samsung's innovation.
First they introduced smart stay. It was a kinda gimmeck, but they improved it and brought more changes into it in the next phone. Same goes with the air view. They are improving and improving. If all the features they showcased on GS4 worked well, just imagine the number of enhancement it will bring to note 3 and S5. No competitor is working at this pace, so hats off to Samsung.
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I often said that I was a fan of the Power/capability of the phone but not necessarily Samsung. In fact the first thing I was doing when having a new phone was to remove all Samsung apps. But now I think Samsung features have grown to a point where it's nearly futuristic. I mean, I started a thread where I ask people "What specs or features the SGS4 Should've had? " and nobody can come up with features as awesome as what the S4 already have.
I think those features will be the decision makers for Mr. and Mrs. everybody. Yes the HTC One looks a bit more premium with it's alumium chassis but if I show the two phones and show how I can just tell my phone "Play music" or I can put the phone on the table and take a picture of myself just by saying "Shoot"(no need to use the front camera anymore), it creates a big wow factor. The best HTC One could come up with is Blinkfeed(which is Flipboard-like).
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You statement never been logic.
Which part show HTC one = HTC One X++ (suppose ++ as already got + version at market).
People said S4 = S3+ because the design was too identical to differentiate it.
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So by your logic they could've keep the same cpu/gpu/screen/ram etc.. but change the design, then the phone would've been a big update?
Wow ok, nice talking with you.

Do You Feel Cheated?

Hi All,
So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera. Personally i am ok with that trade off as i get water proof features and a much better build quality. The pixel density is much more as well.
Rumoured Specs of Active from GSMARENA:
The specs are expected to be the same and the live pictures below confirm it - the device is running on a quad-core 1.9GHz processor with Adreno 320 GPU, which most definitely means a Snapdragon 600 chipset. The screen supposedly has the same size and resolution as the original Galaxy S4 - a 5.0-inch 1080p unit, though it's unclear if it's a Super AMOLED one or not. Strangely enough, the reported pixel density of the phone is 480ppi, so the display might actually be smaller.
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I personally think this is actually the real Flagship from Samsung for this year and not S4, what are your thoughts, do you think you have been cheated by Samsung is you are an S4 owner, or you think it is a part of the market strategy and a must for samsung to consolidate it's numero uno position.

Its 480 dpi not ppi.
So its exactly same actually.

I feel cheated would have preferred a waterproof one as it's always rainy in the UK
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Why should it be DPI? DPI is no measurement for displays ...
Antutu is just showing false information.
Ontopic: Why would anyone feel cheated? It's the exact same phone, plus better durability and minus the 13 MP camera.
And even if it was better, do you sleep worse at night, when there is some faster phone out there? :laugh:

No nothing like that, i still remember people going all out on HTC when HTC one x+ was release saying that how they lost out on a flagship device, when they expected the flagship device the same way for one year. In this case S4 probably would maintain being a flagship for less then 3 months, so a lot of people might feel sad.
For me personally i think it is the right step, maybe this is what they wanted to launch as S4 all along, but probably were not able to complete the tests on time to release it in April.

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So Samsung is on verge of Announcing Galaxy S4 Active, basically a much better phone then S4 except the Camera.
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What makes it a "much better phone?" It's a "different" phone and I'm willing to bet it'll be more expensive than the SGS4. If it's like other waterproof phones all the ports will have covers on them which is a pain in the ass. So it'll appeal to some people (not everyone wants a red phone) and not to others. But to those that want its features and bought a SGS4 because they didn't know the "Active" was coming I can see them feeling "cheated." I'd also question whether the standard SGS4 accessories will work with the Active which could be a downside for some people.

S4 is the main flagship of Samsung and it will stay that way until S5 comes out.
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1) The screen will not be that bright than normal S4 and probably there will be no air view. Also, dropping will still not be a survival situation for it
2) the battery can't be removed and there is no evidence of sdcard slot yet
3) the top and bottom rubber will scratch and break in time and those 3 buttons are crap, they should use buttons like Back and menu on the original S4
However, that red is nice, but making the original S4 more solid and S4 Active like it's easy with a Spigen Slim Armor. There are ways to make the phone waterproof too.
A great feature is that if you want to make a tea or warm the bath water, you can play a 3D game and then submerge the phone in that water. It will warm the water (S-thermo?)
also, don't forget how many time you guys needed to take the battery out when flashed or just because the phone frozen. I'm curious how you guys will do it now lol
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I don't feel cheated. I probably would have waited and bought the Galaxy S4 Active, except that I was still using an original Droid X. So it really was well past time to upgrade. I guess the fact that it lasted this long without any such protection (or even a case) means I really shouldn't worry so much about dust or moisture.
Hopefully by the time I need my next phone, the "active" version will be waterproof to 5m or more. Now that would be something. I also don't care about dust; but I'd love to see a phone that can withstand sand without a screen protector.

Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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Where you guys see S4 Pro? I see everywhere S600 :what:
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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed

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Well i think let's wait for the official confirmation to come, speculating that screen won't be bright is already indications of trying to put down a phone, whose true nature is yet not revealed
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Yeah, I'm sick of speculations too. However, most of phones which are water and dust resistant doesn't have bright screen as the S4. You can see the photos, the brightness is minimum I think, but the screen is too reflective because probably is thicker. But of course, let's just wait.

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x4sper said:
Waterproof trade off for 8megapixel and s4 pro at 1.9ghz ...cheated ? Nah not really
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I'll only be mad if it has more storage