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[Q] Launcher lag

Does anybody else have the problem, that if they use an app, and then press the home button, the launcher shows up, but with no icons, no widgets, and it takes about a 5-10 seconds before everything appears, and it takes another 5seconds and then the apps in the menu appear. I mainly notice it after using memory heavy apps like chrome,or flipboard, but it sometimes happens randomly. I don't have many widgets, it's a stock 4.04 rooted, mostly I have only 3-4 services running. Any advice?

It's because you used memory intensive app that will take up all the available ram and cause the launcher to redraw(restart). There's no fix for it since Nexus S only has 512MB of Ram. Or you can flash bigmem kernel which adds more usable ram.
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ljordan2 said:
It's because you used memory intensive app that will take up all the available ram and cause the launcher to redraw(restart). There's no fix for it since Nexus S only has 512MB of Ram. Or you can flash bigmem kernel which adds more usable ram.
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thx,yes that's what I was thinking. I only wondered, because I saw no one complaining about it, and I think it's very annoying!

Install apex launcher, it gives you the option to force the launcher to stay in the memory.

Beware though, you may get some bad performance if you do this...forcing apps in memory is never a good idea.

Install an alternative launcher, apex and nova launcher are the best.
If it lags apex launcher, burning the phone :good:

simsor said:
Beware though, you may get some bad performance if you do this...forcing apps in memory is never a good idea.
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No problems here with keeping Apex in memory. No redraws and no lag. ICS can handle these things well.
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The gaming performance is sacrificed with keeping it in memory. It wont make much of a difference with other normal usage of the phone.

Thx for your answers. I think I'll might try another launcher then.

[Q] Asphalt 8 lags?

Anyone tried asphalt 8 yet?
Mine lags even on lowest setting in the display option.
I've seen a video on youtube about a guy running it smoothly.
I've tried ARHD and Hyperdrive ROM, both lags.
Would it be better on CM or AOKP roms?

I have stock android on my note 10.1, and there is no lag at all. It runs smoothly.
Maybe you have lots of things running causing slowdown... try and clear ram before u start the game maybe.
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smrsxn said:
I have stock android on my note 10.1, and there is no lag at all. It runs smoothly.
Maybe you have lots of things running causing slowdown... try and clear ram before u start the game maybe.
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I do have a stock rom, but its custom rom.
I dont have anything else installed, and I disabled unused services.
lags occurs from time to time though its not consistent

Franco vs stock. Anybody compare?

Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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air2k57 said:
Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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It may get hotter, but battery life is worlds apart. Search better battery stats in xda and let it monitor your system. Franco's kernel has way less wakelocks I find.

air2k57 said:
Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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heat isnt an issue, unless you are normally reaching the safety shut off temp of 100C at a regular basis. now, i highly doubt that you are getting anywhere close.

air2k57 said:
Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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Thank you for the info guys. Do you run the official Franco build? Or the linaro one? I tried both, linaro seems to sound better as far as it being more optimized, but day to day, didn't notice much difference.
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air2k57 said:
Thank you for the info guys. Do you run the official Franco build? Or the linaro one? I tried both, linaro seems to sound better as far as it being more optimized, but day to day, didn't notice much difference.
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linaro is just a buzzword, nothing else. in reality theres no difference. googles toolchain(gcc) might even be slightly better/more optimized.

air2k57 said:
Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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Franco kernel is at least as good as stock kernel for idle battery drain. Much better with SOT in darker environments due to brightness changes.
Your heat issue is due to FK allowing the cores to reach 70c before throttling. You can change this value with the FKU app. Free version does not currently support Hammerhead, But the paid version does, and it's worth a few dollars.

Sorry if it is a noob question lol, but what is sot?
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air2k57 said:
Sorry if it is a noob question lol, but what is sot?
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Hi,
Screen On Time...

I have 0 problems with franco's kernel.

Delete.

[ART] How stable is it? Should I enable it?

Wondering if I should enable this. Have you guys noticed improvements?
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Some people say its a placebo effect, but i personally have noticed improvements. I run it exclusively
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Where I really notice the difference is scrolling, even through the system it just feels "right"
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Is there like a list of apps that dont work with ART?

EarlZ said:
Is there like a list of apps that dont work with ART?
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Try searching. Google nexus 5 apps not working art xda

Id say its pretty stable and if in doubt you can always go back
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CRIME INC. said:
Some people say its a placebo effect, but i personally have noticed improvements. I run it exclusively
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For some it looks like as its a placebo affect, but when you launch CPU intensive apps such as Photoshop touch and other cpu intensive apps you start to see the affect.

Had some issues with the Facebook app on ART (seems to be fixed now), but otherwise, it's been flawless. No issues.
However, I will be honest and say that the speed improvements have only been marginal for me.

Thanks guys! Will enable it. Can't wait to root and install PA!
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I can see a difference between ART and dalvik. Apps are snappier and battery life is slightly better. It's very smooth. The only thing on the negative side is some apps will not work (very few) and boot time takes a couple of seconds longer. Other than that, it's great!
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captainwahid said:
boot time takes a couple of seconds longer. Other than that, it's great!
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Really? I find boot time is quicker. Odd :/
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ZacksBuilds said:
Really? I find boot time is quicker. Odd :/
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Well I'm including when it optimizes the apps. Without that it definitely boots quicker but when it optimizes apps, it does add a couple of seconds.
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First thing I do after I flash a new ROM is enable ART Pretty much the best thing to happen for performance on Android since Project Butter on Jellybean. It's quite stable, and most of the big apps that used to be buggy with ART have been fixed. After the initial boot after switching to ART (which takes a few minutes, depending on the number of apps you have installed), boot time is quicker, and everything is just buttery smooth. If you thought that the phone couldn't get faster, you're wrong. It does something to the scrolling especially that just makes everything fly.

I've been using it for a few hours. HOLY THIS IS SMOOTH
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I just installed AOSPA 4.0 W/ Franco r25 and art won't stick. Any ideas?
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Am having the same issue but am running stock rooted 4.4.2 with Franco r25. I heard that Xposed interferes with it. So I uninstalled Xposed and performed a factory reset, but I'm having the same problem, Art won't stay on as default and the N5 goes back to Dalvik.

stoosh666 said:
Am having the same issue but am running stock rooted 4.4.2 with Franco r25. I heard that Xposed interferes with it. So I uninstalled Xposed and performed a factory reset, but I'm having the same problem, Art won't stay on as default and the N5 goes back to Dalvik.
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All I had to do was remove xposedframework and delete gravity box .
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25

Ran Art from day one on a bone stock N5. In comparison to a similar N5 on Dalvik there was a slight difference. Barely noticeable.
Benchmark scores are different in favor of ART.
App sizes are bigger.
Yesterday I rooted, installed Xposed and Gravity. It isn't compatible with ART yet, so I kept Dalvik.
To be honest, you won't see a difference. Split seconds are not noticeable to us. How snappy do you need your phone to be? ART or Dalvik, you will see no lag.
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Neurotica said:
Ran Art from day one on a bone stock N5. In comparison to a similar N5 on Dalvik there was a slight difference. Barely noticeable.
Benchmark scores are different in favor of ART.
App sizes are bigger.
Yesterday I rooted, installed Xposed and Gravity. It isn't compatible with ART yet, so I kept Dalvik.
To be honest, you won't see a difference. Split seconds are not noticeable to us. How snappy do you need your phone to be? ART or Dalvik, you will see no lag.
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Well every device is different. I compared to a nexus 5 on dalvik and mine was surely faster.
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25

ZacksBuilds said:
All I had to do was remove xposedframework and delete gravity box .
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25
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I did exactly that, factory reset the phone but ART still isn't sticking it's really annoying.

It takes a long time to "upgrade" after installing nightlies. For me it takes an average of 15 minutes. It has to upgrade 229 apps.

Fps drop games after few seconds

I have noticed (since today this is happening to my device) when i start up a game, it runs very smooth. But after a while it begins to stutter and it is just not playable anymore.
I play real racing 3, i have seen videos on youtube where they are playing this game on ultra high quality and it runs smooth, but on my nexus 5 it is laggy and not fun to play.
What can cause this problem? This never happened before till today.
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It might just be thermal throttling. Let the phone cool down a bit and try again later.

Thank you for your reply, i will try again tomorrow then. But i hace a feeling thay it will comeback because my nexus gets a little hot while playing heavy games
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I Have tried it now, still having the fps lag.
This never happened before
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It might just be thermal throttling. Let the phone cool down a bit and try again later.
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Wrap it in a shirt, throw it in the freezer. Try to get it to like 20 degrees Celsius (use CPU z app to check temp) then play the game. If it still lags, then you can confirm its not thermal throttling.
glaeb said:
I Have tried it now, still having the fps lag.
This never happened before
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Sorry i am not planning to root my phone, it gets hot when gaming and then the fps drops, am i the only one having this issue? I hope for not
Anyone knows what is going on? This never happened before
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Hi,
You have a quadcore phone running at 2,26 Ghz (ok, not all the time but...), enclosed and without a cooling system, so when you play an heavy game "for a while" expect some heat then thermal throttling... (the CPU freq decreases according to the CPU/battery temp, maybe the GPU freq too but I'm not sure about that) so you can have at a certain point some FPS drops... Nothing more. And in a game it's not only the GPU that plays its role but also the CPU.
If you don't want to root (at least unlocked) there is nothing to do (like decrease the max CPU freq to limit the thermal throttling, undervolt, or tweak the thermal management), maybe trying to play less longer? Have you some "huge" apps running in background? You don't play while charging your phone?

Thank you for your reply! Before all this i could play deadzone 'shadowgun' for like 1hr without any problems.
Now i cant play any high quality games for 5 minutes because after the 5 min it starts running laggy. That is what i found strange
Its very sad because i see videos on youtube where they play on hughest graphics with real racing 3 and other high end games. And mine cant even run smooth for 5 mins.
All other things besides the gaming runs smooth
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glaeb said:
Before all this i could play deadzone 'shadowgun' for like 1hr without any problems.
Now i cant play any high quality games for 5 minutes because after the 5 min it starts running laggy. That is what i found strange
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Hum...What have you done between "before" and "now"?
Maybe a weird question but maybe there is something...
What is your room temperature?
And:
Have you some "huge" apps running in background? You don't play while charging your phone?
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I havent done anything between then and now (maybe installing some apps but thats it) my room temperature is normal. 21C - 18C i live in a cold country haha.
Sorry i forgot that question with apps in the backround.
I never have any apps running in the backround, i always use task manager and i always close the recent apps.
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Maybe some useful info: I have ran a antutu test and my score was 21k.
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Ok...
How did you measure the FPS drop? Does your game have really some lags?
In any case I don't know a single game with a solid and constant FPS..., for me nothing wrong with your phone, try a factory reset to see...
glaeb said:
Maybe some useful info: I have ran a antutu test and my score was 21k.
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Nope, or at least it could confirm thermal throttling that's all, full stock you should score about 28 000-30 000...

Thank you for your reply, realy appreciate it! i will backup my apps and try a factory reset.
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Fac. Reset worked i guess!? Still a little laggy but it is less noticable for sure! I am downlaoding real racing 3 now, hope it will run smooth
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Also you should be mindful of the heat coming from your phone. You say you can play games for hours in the past. I know after 1 level of dead trigger can have my phone @ 105 degrees easy. I can't imagine playing for a hour straight with ultra settings. Heat is the biggest enemy to your CPU and Battery.
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glaeb said:
Fac. Reset worked i guess!?
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I don't know...?
glaeb said:
Still a little laggy but it is less noticable for sure! I am downlaoding real racing 3 now, hope it will run smooth
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What is laggy?
Yep try with your game and see, but keep in mind what has been explained about thermal throttling...

I ment Shadowgun hehe i am going to test real racing 3 if it is done downloading.
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glaeb said:
I ment Shadowgun hehe i am going to test real racing 3 if it is done downloading.
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Ah ok...
Could you post a video when you play your game, if it's possible?
How did you measure the FPS drop?

Sure! If it is still laggy i will post a video here
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0cIaeiEXUg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Game play fps is like this, this one stutters too. I cant see anywhere where to lower the graphics of the game
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