Wondering if I should enable this. Have you guys noticed improvements?
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Some people say its a placebo effect, but i personally have noticed improvements. I run it exclusively
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Where I really notice the difference is scrolling, even through the system it just feels "right"
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Is there like a list of apps that dont work with ART?
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Is there like a list of apps that dont work with ART?
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Try searching. Google nexus 5 apps not working art xda
Id say its pretty stable and if in doubt you can always go back
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CRIME INC. said:
Some people say its a placebo effect, but i personally have noticed improvements. I run it exclusively
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For some it looks like as its a placebo affect, but when you launch CPU intensive apps such as Photoshop touch and other cpu intensive apps you start to see the affect.
Had some issues with the Facebook app on ART (seems to be fixed now), but otherwise, it's been flawless. No issues.
However, I will be honest and say that the speed improvements have only been marginal for me.
Thanks guys! Will enable it. Can't wait to root and install PA!
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I can see a difference between ART and dalvik. Apps are snappier and battery life is slightly better. It's very smooth. The only thing on the negative side is some apps will not work (very few) and boot time takes a couple of seconds longer. Other than that, it's great!
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boot time takes a couple of seconds longer. Other than that, it's great!
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Really? I find boot time is quicker. Odd :/
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Really? I find boot time is quicker. Odd :/
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Well I'm including when it optimizes the apps. Without that it definitely boots quicker but when it optimizes apps, it does add a couple of seconds.
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First thing I do after I flash a new ROM is enable ART Pretty much the best thing to happen for performance on Android since Project Butter on Jellybean. It's quite stable, and most of the big apps that used to be buggy with ART have been fixed. After the initial boot after switching to ART (which takes a few minutes, depending on the number of apps you have installed), boot time is quicker, and everything is just buttery smooth. If you thought that the phone couldn't get faster, you're wrong. It does something to the scrolling especially that just makes everything fly.
I've been using it for a few hours. HOLY THIS IS SMOOTH
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I just installed AOSPA 4.0 W/ Franco r25 and art won't stick. Any ideas?
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Am having the same issue but am running stock rooted 4.4.2 with Franco r25. I heard that Xposed interferes with it. So I uninstalled Xposed and performed a factory reset, but I'm having the same problem, Art won't stay on as default and the N5 goes back to Dalvik.
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Am having the same issue but am running stock rooted 4.4.2 with Franco r25. I heard that Xposed interferes with it. So I uninstalled Xposed and performed a factory reset, but I'm having the same problem, Art won't stay on as default and the N5 goes back to Dalvik.
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All I had to do was remove xposedframework and delete gravity box .
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25
Ran Art from day one on a bone stock N5. In comparison to a similar N5 on Dalvik there was a slight difference. Barely noticeable.
Benchmark scores are different in favor of ART.
App sizes are bigger.
Yesterday I rooted, installed Xposed and Gravity. It isn't compatible with ART yet, so I kept Dalvik.
To be honest, you won't see a difference. Split seconds are not noticeable to us. How snappy do you need your phone to be? ART or Dalvik, you will see no lag.
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Ran Art from day one on a bone stock N5. In comparison to a similar N5 on Dalvik there was a slight difference. Barely noticeable.
Benchmark scores are different in favor of ART.
App sizes are bigger.
Yesterday I rooted, installed Xposed and Gravity. It isn't compatible with ART yet, so I kept Dalvik.
To be honest, you won't see a difference. Split seconds are not noticeable to us. How snappy do you need your phone to be? ART or Dalvik, you will see no lag.
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Well every device is different. I compared to a nexus 5 on dalvik and mine was surely faster.
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25
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All I had to do was remove xposedframework and delete gravity box .
Device: Nexus 5 16gb Black
ROM: AOSPA 4.0BETA w/ Franco r25
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I did exactly that, factory reset the phone but ART still isn't sticking it's really annoying.
It takes a long time to "upgrade" after installing nightlies. For me it takes an average of 15 minutes. It has to upgrade 229 apps.
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Hi,
Is there a ROM comparison chart somewhere for Nexus S?
I'm looking forward to a ROM, which is:
based on 2.3.4.
has a notification power widget.
has 3G SIP calling.
(sort of) stable.
fast.
Some nice to have features:
Lock-screen tweaks.
Battery percentage hack.
Permission management.
Any ideas?
CM7 nightly seemed to be a good choice, but it freezes time to time.
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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Graham19 said:
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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does the same for me
Graham19 said:
I am using infin1ty. Solid as a rock and fast too.
I think it fulfils your wish list.
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Thanks for the tips! I've just flashed the latest infin1ty.
There are some nice touch, like working Video Chat and a nice Battery icon, but two things bug me:
Skype crashes
Seems laggy to me a little, even laggier when CM7 nightly.
I'll keep trying it and we'll see...
Balázs
I've been running Infin1ty for a few days, upgraded to the new version this morning and really no lag on my end. Hated the battery icon so built a new one in UOT Kitchen and now it's looking good.
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[*]Skype crashes
[*]Seems laggy to me a little, even laggier when CM7 nightly.
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no idea about skype.
i played arround a bit with the cpu settings (No-frills CPU control) and voltage settings (proton) and i got a really smooth fast and stable rom. so just give it a try
I prefer CM7 never had any freezing issues.
I use with ogdobber 2.3.4 kernel
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The current CM kang coupled with morfics UV kernel is running so incredibly fast!
Not to mention I haven't experienced ANY stability issue as of yet!
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Just give them all a test ride and see which one you like best. I'm on superasop ATM and so far it's been the snappiest rom I've tried. Still not perfect though.
It has everything in your list though.
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Use benchmark in the android market.
Just to give this a bump as I'm looking for the same thing as OP but would like to know more about what everyone thinks. I m on cm7.0.3 atm and its really frustrating how it restarts out of the blue or gets into a bootloop. with the features listed by the OP, which rom is the most stable?
Good idea...
SuperAosp has been really, really good to me. I did an original wipe and reinstall a month ago, and it is has been really good and snappy ever since, even through non-wipe upgrades to ROM.
Heeter
I'm using ZuluZulu rom, fast and stable. Tried lot of cm based roms but this one is almost no random reboot like cm.
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NSCollab or ZuluGen are the best!
Heeter said:
SuperAosp has been really, really good to me. I did an original wipe and reinstall a month ago, and it is has been really good and snappy ever since, even through non-wipe upgrades to ROM.
Heeter
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I've just flashed SuperAosp. First impressions:
Really nice icons and theme.
Nice animations!
Video chat is nice, but it works only one way. I can see both myself and the called party on the phone, but the called party cannot see me on Gmail. Might not be related to the ROM, though.
ROM Manager is crashing. I can live without that app, though.
Very laggy. I expect the operating system to react immediately, but sometimes it lags for 1 sec or more when the system is busy. This is most probably due to I/O scheduling issues.
I'll probably give other ROMs a try as well.
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I'm using ZuluZulu rom, fast and stable. Tried lot of cm based roms but this one is almost no random reboot like cm.
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I've tested ZuluZulu: I flashed it, factory reset, set my accounts up, started to restore the Apps with Titanium Backup, and all of a sudden, it rebooted.
My first impression was that it is a pretty responsive ROM, but somehow this reboot did not make me happy.
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I'm looking forward to a ROM, which is:
based on 2.3.4.
has a notification power widget.
has 3G SIP calling.
(sort of) stable.
fast.
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Uhm, how about stock...?
Wow, Bud,
1 sec of lag?
1 reboot?
Maybe you should just stick to stock.
Heeter
dlux.hu said:
I've tested ZuluZulu: I flashed it, factory reset, set my accounts up, started to restore the Apps with Titanium Backup, and all of a sudden, it rebooted.
My first impression was that it is a pretty responsive ROM, but somehow this reboot did not make me happy.
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Well even a stock rom gets a random reboot, just give it time. As long as a rom doesn't random hung or reboot in a call that's a keeper for me. Anyway you have your own idea on what you want in a rom. Hope you find one.
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Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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It may get hotter, but battery life is worlds apart. Search better battery stats in xda and let it monitor your system. Franco's kernel has way less wakelocks I find.
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Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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heat isnt an issue, unless you are normally reaching the safety shut off temp of 100C at a regular basis. now, i highly doubt that you are getting anywhere close.
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Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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Thank you for the info guys. Do you run the official Franco build? Or the linaro one? I tried both, linaro seems to sound better as far as it being more optimized, but day to day, didn't notice much difference.
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Thank you for the info guys. Do you run the official Franco build? Or the linaro one? I tried both, linaro seems to sound better as far as it being more optimized, but day to day, didn't notice much difference.
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linaro is just a buzzword, nothing else. in reality theres no difference. googles toolchain(gcc) might even be slightly better/more optimized.
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Hey guys, I'm running odexed 4.4.2 ROM and I've been using franco kernel for a bit now, tried all versions from r15 to r23. I've noticed that my phone does get extra toasty when playing games, or doing anything intense, even playing music. Decided to revert to stock, and issue went away. Has anybody compared franco to stock as far as performance goes, and has anyone had same issues with heat?
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Franco kernel is at least as good as stock kernel for idle battery drain. Much better with SOT in darker environments due to brightness changes.
Your heat issue is due to FK allowing the cores to reach 70c before throttling. You can change this value with the FKU app. Free version does not currently support Hammerhead, But the paid version does, and it's worth a few dollars.
Sorry if it is a noob question lol, but what is sot?
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Sorry if it is a noob question lol, but what is sot?
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Hi,
Screen On Time...
I have 0 problems with franco's kernel.
Delete.
Hi, I would like to know from your experience if cm11 is stable enough for everyday use. What is not working? Does it reboot or get locked often? Esp. when compared to cm10.2
thanks!!
It's more stable then stock. It are the apps that rn in the background that can cause issues (greenify it!).
I use it everyday and it works fine. Better then stock. I dont have reboots or any trouble. The battery life its better in cm 10.2
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falle21 said:
I use it everyday and it works fine. Better then stock. I dont have reboots or any trouble. The battery life its better in cm 10.2
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Thanks! Are you comparing with official 10.2 or with unofficial teamapexq builds?
robuser007 said:
It's more stable then stock. It are the apps that rn in the background that can cause issues (greenify it!).
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Oops - newbie talking here. Greenify means...? Thanks!
Guiyoforward said:
Thanks! Are you comparing with official 10.2 or with unofficial teamapexq builds?
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Always talking about the official versions
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Oops - newbie talking here. Greenify means...? Thanks!
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It's an app, use play store, extends privacy and battery use by limiting background services (also look for xposed) => less sudden reboots.
The only issue I have is with "The Simpsons: Tapped Out". It force closes occasionally on the build I'm running from the first part of January.
I used CM11 as a daily for a while until I got my Note 3, it worked quite well. Battery life was mediocre, but other than that, everything seemed to work well. The phone did seem to lock up if I closed it while sending a text too quickly, and had to be restarted. Other than that, it worked well.
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CM 11 too smoother than 10.2.1,battery better... But it is not stable, after Use 2 or
3 days starting become to be laggy and unstable.
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I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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No such problems here.
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I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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Do you have any app that can change Rom/kernel settings Like faux clock, Rom toolbox, trickster mod.. etc?
The workaround for your memory issue is lowering the values on OOM settings. Any of those apps can edit those values.
IRX120 said:
I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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its sounds like its something on your end that might be eating your ram. btw, have you checked how much ram you have left at any point? if so, whats the number? are you using any flashable mods? do you have lots of activity enabled? this might be the first time ive read of a nexus 5 with ram issues! or maybe its not? in the phones main settings, developer options, do you have it selected to kill apps after a few are opened?
Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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Why don't you stick with the stock kernel?
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Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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I wouldn't really worry about RAM, post 4.4 Ram really ins't a problem. It is most likely a placebo if you see a degradation in performance .If you are really worried about RAM check your RAM usage in apps and maybe post some screen shots if anything is out of the normal.
Just like the Title implies. I am trying to get a good idea on what runtime users perfer.
I like ART but its a batter killer and some apps are not compatible. Luckily I am not concerned about incompatible apps because I have not come across one that I use.
I would like to know what you use...
Do you prefer Art or Dalvik and why?
Everyone is encouraged to join in... Even if from another forum :highfive:
I use ART, though I'm not entirely convinced it does anything. Especially for my piece of **** device
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monkor said:
I use ART, though I'm not entirely convinced it does anything. Especially for my piece of **** device
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What device, the Sensation?
Prolly not. ART is really designed for high end devices. I dont know much about the sensation though...
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What device, the Sensation?
Prolly not. ART is really designed for high end devices. I dont know much about the sensation though...
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768MB of pure RAM and sex appeal! ART is supposed to help memory challenged devices such as mine. My Nexus 4 broke, but I definitely noticed the difference in terms of RAM savings then. On this device, I don't. You like it on the M8?
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Dalvik across all maintained devices..
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Dalvik across all maintained devices..
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Cool!
monkor said:
768MB of pure RAM and sex appeal! ART is supposed to help memory challenged devices such as mine. My Nexus 4 broke, but I definitely noticed the difference in terms of RAM savings then. On this device, I don't. You like it on the M8?
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See, I thought ART was supposed to use more memory
ON the M8, which is already stupid fast... It really brought it up a notch.
The best way to describe it is that apps load almost instantly. Its like the device is clocked to 3GHZ or something... It really is that notable.
Art
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Dalvik. As others have said I've really seen no difference in performance or smoothness I haven't tested long enough to test battery. Maybe furture android versions might have better use for ART they still don't consider it fully functional I thought almost like beta phase maybe.
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Dalvik, for broader compatibility, and to be able to use Xposed Framework. Battery life is so amazing the purported gains of ART don't make it worth the loss of being able to make modifications.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic....
Dalvik. Art breaks too many things, and on the 4 devices I've tried it on the speed benefits are negligible.
Dalvik, one incompatible app is one too many. Stability is always my main priority!
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I prefer ART, but I need xposed so I'm on Dalvik. I personally see better battery on ART.
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Dalvik
I'm using ART, basically because it's newer. Newer must be better!
Right?!
Anyway, I have no idea what the difference is between the two, but I actually thought ART was supposed to *improve* battery life. At least I thought I read that was one of the missions of the project.
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Just to follow up, everything I can find on the net at the moment indicates ART should/does improve battery life. It's less of a strain on the CPU so that would make sense.
Scott you know a hell of a lot more about these devices than I ever will (and probably more than most of these internet sources) so if you say it's the opposite I'd be inclined to believe you.
I just switched to ART... Been about a week and I notice that there is no more lag when opening my keyboard and no lag when swyping... Only app I see crash so far is quadrant but no biggie....
Does ART effect the kernel possibilities? I want to try faux again but don't know if it will cause a reload of everything if it breaks
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I'm not using ART because frankly on this phone it's not necessary. It's just as fast without ART as it is with it, unlike my DNA. and I use Xposed framework modules so it's a no brainer for me
I don't even have the ART option
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I don't even have the ART option
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I use dalvic cause I am too lazy to change over
@fireguy0306 the ART option is under < developer options/Select runtime =]
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Just to follow up, everything I can find on the net at the moment indicates ART should/does improve battery life. It's less of a strain on the CPU so that would make sense.
Scott you know a hell of a lot more about these devices than I ever will (and probably more than most of these internet sources) so if you say it's the opposite I'd be inclined to believe you.
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I'm far from knowing everything. I just read one article and it show battery drain statitistcs of art and dalvik on identical devices set up identically. Art drain was higher.
I dont know this test to be as all conclusive so take it with a grain of salt.
two_cents said:
I just switched to ART... Been about a week and I notice that there is no more lag when opening my keyboard and no lag when swyping... Only app I see crash so far is quadrant but no biggie....
Does ART effect the kernel possibilities? I want to try faux again but don't know if it will cause a reload of everything if it breaks
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Art should not affect kernel. But I aslo see the gians you see. The keyboard is just one. Wake time to home screen is another, launching any app is amazingly faster.
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I use dalvic cause I am too lazy to change over
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A man after my own heart!
The reason I ask is on my next ROM build I want to include items that I know will not be ART compatible. Such as Xposed...
So I wanted to gauge the efficacy of ART vs Dalvik on the M8.