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So I have the US version and I've had it for a while (about a month) and I'm really disappointed with the performance. Scroll lags, the notification shade pulls down smoother on a galaxy player (that has less than 500mb of ram and is single core) and the 3d gaming performance is laggy. Like GTA3 should be able to run on max settings! Just disappointed and expected more.
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OK? Why post this? Why not just get a new phone? Have you tried any other ROMs?
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I played Tactics Ogre on my phone and Dead Trigger with no problems. Plus with most ROMs I don't encounter the same lag you have experience.
Maybe Powersave mode is on...
tylerlawhon said:
OK? Why post this? Why not just get a new phone? Have you tried any other ROMs?
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Sorry, the rest got cut out for some reason. I was asking if anyone else had this problem.
And a new phone is not an option. My family is on forclosure on the house right now so I might just cancel my data plan and use this as like an iPod.
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ericsdeadinside said:
Maybe Powersave mode is on...
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Trust me I checked that.
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Idk man, I've not had much lag at all. I've been rooted since the day I got it of course, so I've been running custom ROMs for a while.
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Try flashing Cyanogen Mod from the original android section. General ui is much snappier and it doesn't have game lag like all the 4.1.2 TW ROMs.
Samsung really dropped the ball with the 4.1.2 updates. A phone this powerful should not lag playing temple run.
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I get some lag while playing ingress and minecraft. Kinda annoying but it's better than my old phone and I hope my next is better than this one.
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Are you running it stock? Phone runs great with custom stock ROMs & Kernals, but everyone has their own opinions. The games i've played ive not have any lag, but i'm running a custom kernal and ROM. That probably has is the difference, but i'm not overclocked.
well there's only two things that are certain in this world.... no tech device is ever perfect and taxes always increase.
If you expect anything different you will always be disappointed.
That being said, I had ANdroid phones since the HTC Eris and they keep improving. S3 is really nice, maybe the best of this generation, but its not perfect.
Lots of people are looking for infinite gaming speed + infinite battery life... well the two don't go together. There are always trade-off. speed vs. power, vs. size, vs. cost.
Oh and by the way, multi-core is mostly a marketing gimmick. The GPU does most of the graphics work and most apps are not multi-threaded, so a fast single core beats a slower multi-core every time. It's cheaper to make a slow multi-core processor than to make a faster single core.
I also noticed lag on the device which i put off was caused by Touch Wiz. I confirmed this when i finally rooted and started trying different ROMs.
The lag is there in all TW ROM's for me; however if you really want to stick with TW, the smoothest running TW ROM I've tried so far is Goodness. That is what i'm currently using. I don't experience lag during gaming or Apps though even with touch wiz... so might be just your phone.
However, if you can do without touchwiz, the AOSP ROMs are like butter and i experience no lag at all. At least the 4.2.2 ROMS. I've tried Liquidsmooth, paranoid android, Pac-man and Chameleon.
Crazy I'm 100 % stock and my phone runs awesome! I don't do much gaming so I can't chime in on that but I don't have lag at all like you describe. Do you have a live wallpaper installed??
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I've tried a lot of the TW based ROM, Synergy, Hyperdrive , others and all the well developed one's run great for me. I don't see any lag. I also tried CM10 and no noticeable difference, I think a lot of the comment are caused by placebo effec, some people just hate OEM stufft. Also people will load up their home screens with 3000 widgets and say wow this phone / rom sucks, LOL m Then they load some new ROM with no widgets yet and go, wow this is really smooth....... until they load 3000 widgets and it sucks again. Hey , there really is a limit to performance on any phone.
Lately I've been switching back and forth from Stock Samsung JB rom to Custom JB roms (4.2.2) and notice a huge difference in gaming performance and general smoothness.
For me, I feel like all recent custom roms that I've tried, whether its CM10.1, or SLIM6 or AOKP, seem to be a bit laggy when running games compared to the stock JB feel of the same games. It seems like the only way I can get reasonable performance is if I disable hardware overlays, but its still not quite as nice and smooth as stock.
Is this type of thing purely KERNAL controlled? Or is it just the fact that its 4.2.2 and not really optimized for the skyrocket yet? I mean the Android UI feels smoother on custom roms, but in games it does not... I can't wrap my head around that...
Its bugging me because I feel like all these lightweight custom roms should blow away the stock rom in almost all aspects... but if performance can't be better, its a deal breaker for me as daily driver.
I'm sure all the devs are doing their best to work on performance issues and I do appreciate all the hard work going into all the custom roms by the devs, as without them, we'd have nothing to cure our flashing itch of course... :laugh:
Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this, but does anyone have any proven methods of boosting performance of games?
No lag here on cm10.1 gta3, block story, zenonia, majesty, sims 3, game of life, n64, psx, GBA.
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No lag here on cm10.1 gta3, block story, zenonia, majesty, sims 3, game of life, n64, psx, GBA.
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Hey sorry for the late response.
Hmm, that's interesting. Are you on 10.1 stable or nighties? Hardware overlays disabled?
10.1 stable hw overlays enabled
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10.1 stable hw overlays enabled
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Oh ok, well are you running any other mods/scripts/tools that would speed up performance? I tried stable as well but it still stuttered for me "out of the box".
ALSO, I can't even get the free game "Subway Surfers" to load off the Play Store at all... does it work for you? It used to work fine for me, but now I'm just getting a black screen on game load (soft keys are lit and system is not frozen), it never starts. I've always done a full wipe, even tried wiping internal SD, and it still won't run. If I go back to stock JB rom, it works perfectly fine everytime....
Maybe the game developer locked it down to only stock kernals with a recent update?!?... is that even possible?
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Oh ok, well are you running any other mods/scripts/tools that would speed up performance? I tried stable as well but it still stuttered for me "out of the box".
ALSO, I can't even get the free game "Subway Surfers" to load off the Play Store at all... does it work for you? If I go back to stock JB rom, it works perfectly fine everytime....
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Start stock if you want play those silly games.
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Oh ok, well are you running any other mods/scripts/tools that would speed up performance? I tried stable as well but it still stuttered for me "out of the box".
ALSO, I can't even get the free game "Subway Surfers" to load off the Play Store at all... does it work for you? It used to work fine for me, but now I'm just getting a black screen on game load (soft keys are lit and system is not frozen), it never starts. I've always done a full wipe, even tried wiping internal SD, and it still won't run. If I go back to stock JB rom, it works perfectly fine everytime....
Maybe the game developer locked it down to only stock kernals with a recent update?!?... is that even possible?
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No scripts or performance mods stock cm kernel no voltage mods nothing.
I'm not installing subway surfers sorry bit I don't do games like that.
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mtdew said:
No scripts or performance mods stock cm kernel no voltage mods nothing.
I'm not installing subway surfers sorry bit I don't do games like that.
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No worries man but thanks for the replys. I went back to a 4.1.2 Rom and everything is fast and smooth again.
I ask this because my xoom is gathering dust in my cupboard and I have no use for it now that I have an HTC One, I am used the the responsiveness and 'fastness' of the phone and that was one of the reasons I stopped using the xoom; the lag
Every rom I used be it EOS or CM10.1 always lagged even when the xoom was overclocked.
If I can find a nice smooth rom I might start using the xoom again :victory: :victory:
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Interested too. Eos 4 was slow.
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I'm willing to downgrade to whatever version of android necessary to regain speed and reliability. What would that be?
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I find CM 10.1 to be very stable and smooth for me. Very rarely do I have slowdowns. I also OC'ed the CPU. Try loading Elemental's kernel if you load CM 10.1. It did not work well for me, but those that it does work for say it makes the ROM much better.
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From my experience the smoothest is CM10 (Cyanogenmod 4.1.2) : the smoothest and the faster I tried.
I only found 1 problem with this ROM : the default Android webbrowser crashes sometimes.
For now, I don't want any other android release on my Xoom as my priority is smoothness ...
As Kitkat should be even smoother, I hope to see this release on the Xoom, but I don't dream a lot !
Ok, thanks for the help guys. I'll check out CM10
CROMI-X 5.2.4 vs Cyanogen Mod 11 nightlies vs Omni Rom 4.4.2 vs CMB beta vs Paranoid Android 3.6 vs PAC- Man 3.99
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CM10.2 has been the best for me. But I would like something with more customisations. I'm recently trying PA multi window. Seems OK so far but I'm thinking of going back to CM 10.2.
As for the other ROMs: cromi is good at first but since it is based on stock it starts to develop lag issues, CM11 is kinda buggy as of now, Omni is plain and simple so it doesn't have any customizations other that the multiwindow stuff which is kinda buggy as well with some force closes, CMB is a good ROM if you like the "dark side" lol but it has the same issues as CM11, and PAC is a great ROM unfortunately the AOKP side of the ROM is what causes issues so it ends up having force closes.
I assume you are new to this tablet, so I hope this helps.
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CM10.2 has been the best for me. But I would like something with more customisations. I'm recently trying PA multi window. Seems OK so far but I'm thinking of going back to CM 10.2.
As for the other ROMs: cromi is good at first but since it is based on stock it starts to develop lag issues
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Will lagfix and cleanmaster from the Play store help with the lag?
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Will lagfix and cleanmaster from the Play store help with the lag?
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I don't suggest using any task managers. First of all, task managers kill processes (apps), they do not close the application correctly. This can cause further system issues. I've had experience with them with my previous devices. Yes, they improve performance, but after several uses (weeks/months) the system might have force closes and/or boot loops. Hope this helps
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I don't suggest using any task managers. First of all, task managers kill processes (apps), they do not close the application correctly. This can cause further system issues.
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Does the Android low memory killer do anything special before killing processes?
If you mean the background process limiter in developer options then that's OK.
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If you mean the background process limiter in developer options then that's OK.
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I was talking specifically about Android's low memory killer (in the kernel), because I don't see it doing anything else than killing processes without notification, just as the task managers you are warning about.
clean master is not a task manager, it does the same thing as android's running tab in settings. Just in a more user friendly interface, and with one click.
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I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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No such problems here.
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I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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Do you have any app that can change Rom/kernel settings Like faux clock, Rom toolbox, trickster mod.. etc?
The workaround for your memory issue is lowering the values on OOM settings. Any of those apps can edit those values.
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I got my n5 a month and a half ago, and have noticed that it almost always has to reload the launcher, and when I play any high memory games (asphalt, gangstar ect.) My music app is killed. I'm surprise by this as my nexus 4 never had these issues. I also only have 400-500mg avalible ram sometimes less, and on my nexus 4, I usually had 1-1.2gb
I'm curious as to what the best solutions for this are? I have used a few kernels (elementalX, faux, Franco) and all have had problems keeping apps in memory.
Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked before.
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its sounds like its something on your end that might be eating your ram. btw, have you checked how much ram you have left at any point? if so, whats the number? are you using any flashable mods? do you have lots of activity enabled? this might be the first time ive read of a nexus 5 with ram issues! or maybe its not? in the phones main settings, developer options, do you have it selected to kill apps after a few are opened?
Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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Why don't you stick with the stock kernel?
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IRX120 said:
Just as an FYI, I reflashed the stock ROM, then flashed elementalX Kernel again and my ram use seems better, I just still have the issue when playing gangstar 4 or asphalt 8 where if I close the app (go to home screen) and go back into the app it has to reload.
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I wouldn't really worry about RAM, post 4.4 Ram really ins't a problem. It is most likely a placebo if you see a degradation in performance .If you are really worried about RAM check your RAM usage in apps and maybe post some screen shots if anything is out of the normal.